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NELSON RATINGS — Every show, every week!; TVGC
Topic Started: Jan 5 2009, 03:55 PM (10,993 Views)
Kenny
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DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 03:09 PM
Kenny
Jan 7 2009, 03:03 PM
Is that close enough? Do I get my twenty cents? LoL
*throws Kenny two dimes*
Thanks!

Five more cents and I can buy some Top Ramen.
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DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 03:08 PM
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Jan 7 2009, 03:01 PM
I guess the difference, and this is just for me, is that she seemed like by Higley, Corday. and Tomlin. Plus, most fans seem to like her. The numbers have gone up in the past few months she's been featured in the A story. She also doesn't cost as much.

With Joe, it was said at the time that they were resting him during the strike and, ultimately, they just didn't want to bring him back for whatever reason. I think Stefano was just left in limbo because of all the writing upheaval. Belle and Shawn was different. I still believe Corday felt Shelle was being threatened by the growing popularity of Phelle and that he had designs on bringing back Cook and Storms somehow or maybe just Cook. That exit makes no sense otherwise and it came right at the peak of the quad. I know you and I disagreed on this but I still feel as though this was the case.

It's not like with Ari IMO where there seems like there is no dissension at all behind the scenes. It seems everyone is in agreement as far as her being on the frontburner. That is why it would make no sense to me just like them firing James Scott would make no sense. Sure, they could quit on their own but I can see Days firing them or wanting to get rid of them when they are very much the centerpiece of the show. I don't see Corday wanting to interfere as to who ends up together, at least not right now. I just see no logical reason they would axe Ari or James unless one or both balked at a pay cut. It doesn't make sense, otherwise.

But your right in that no one should really be considered safe. Some may seem safe more then others but that doesn't mean they aren't fair game. I'm just saying it's hard for me to see the show axing James or Ari and I don't expect Ali, Peter, or Kristian to go when they just took pay cuts. They would've just released them before that.
And Belle and Shawn weren't liked? Corday freaking loved them. And don't tell me you know Higley didn't like them because she had no problem writing for them the first time around. So I don't buy that just because "so and so" likes a person, that means they won't be leaving the show.

And I laugh at the fact that people are still believing that DAYS had this plan to bring back Storms and Cook? Where the hell did this come from? Are you honestly telling me that the TPTB thoguht Kirsten Storms was going to leave GH for DAYS? Please! That's stupid.

Shawn and Belle were written out because of budget issues. I'm sure Corday wanting them to have a happy ending went along with it, and was the reason both were written out together, but it was budget issues. That's the only excuse I'm accepting. If it weren't, there was no reason to write them out. Corday wants them to be happy, then just tell Higley to write them as a couple. Simple solution.

James Scott and Arianne Zucker can be replaced. I'm sorry, but they can. I know they both have their fanbases, but DAYS survived without them for years, and they can survive without them now. DEIDRE FUCKING HALL WAS FIRED!!!!!!!! That, alone, should be enough to convince anyone that no one on this show is safe.

And until I get a quote from Higley, Corday or Tomlin saying that they "LOVE ARIANNE ZUCKER AND WOULD NEVER FIRE HER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES," almost close to what Corday said about Deidre Hall years ago, then I'm not buying that she's safe because TPTB likes her. That's bullshit.

Drew, I'm, not really disagreeing with you. I'm already know we disagree about Shelle and I will just leave it at that. I'm just pointing out how I saw it. I know nothing more then anyone else and I'm not the only one who posted reasoning like this. Many of us felt Corday was going to go after Cook and maybe even Storms. There has also been rumors that the show didn't like the chemistry between Martha and Brandon. No one really knows. I know OBK mentioned something about this too. I've heard rumors all over the place about it but I doubt it was budget cuts. How much could they really cost? Corday wouldn't cut from the next generation for budget reasons. That is hard for me to buy. Besides, it was reported by SON and pretty much everyone that it was a creative decision, not a budget one.

And your right in that Scott and Zucker can be replaced. All I was saying was that they are on the frontburner right now and this story is the show's major focal point. I think even a recast of EJ and/or Nicole would hurt the show big time based on that reasoning. This show has been through enough turmoil and the show's A story taking a hit would not be good. That is all I was saying, especially with the show supposedly going with the future and building around people like Ari and James. That's all.

Sorry if I upset you LOL.
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Paxton
Jan 7 2009, 03:10 PM
I've heard that theory more than once, but I still have no idea why, if Corday adored Shelle so much, he would fire the actors simply because Jay and Martha were attracting some fans. It seems both pointless and cruel to me to take people's jobs away from them for that reason. I don't even like Shawn or Belle, but if Corday loved Shelle so much why didn't he just keep them on the job and instruct the writers there would be no Phelle? I seriously doubt Phelle would have gotten so popular that Phelle fans would have stormed the studio en masse and demanded their couple or else. I mean, we all have couples we would prefer, probably, but when we don't get them we either campaign or don't, but they do what they want to anyway.
That's a stupid theory, that I don't believe at all. You have two actors (Madison and Johnson) with great chemistry and a growing fanbase. Lets fire half of that couple (Madison), piss off, not only her new fanabse, but also her old fanbase (Shawn and Belle). That's real bright. Corday's an idiot, yes, but he's also a businessman and knows a popular duo when he sees one.

The only real and logical reason that makes the most sense to me is that Brandon Beemer and Martha Madison did not get along well on the set. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. One of them or both of them, for that matter, was difficult to work with and so they were both canned. Brandon Beemer found work, yet, Madison can't seem to get anything and she was the "more talented" one. Me thinks that there are rumors circulating the daytime world and sources at DAYS threw some of those whispers about what may have happend on set with Madison to the other shows and they're staying clear of Ms. Madison.

And another thing that just came to me. A 13 week cycle is usally about every three months. Martha Madison came onto the show in August 2004, which means her contract cycle probably began in July 2004. That means she's up for contract negotiations in July, correct? Okay. So lets say that her contract was up in July 2007. Madison demanded a pay raise and Corday obliged because she was part of a popular couple. She was given the pay raise. Then, in the new year and in January, one of Madison's 13 week cycle is now complete and she was given the boot. And since Cordays his this reasoning, for whatever reason, that certain characters can't exist without their romantic partner, he canned Beemer as well.

Now that's logical.
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Kenny
Jan 7 2009, 03:08 PM
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Jan 7 2009, 03:06 PM
I may be posting something this weekend that may shock the hell out of you and others. I still have to think more before I do it though.
What?

Well that's mysterious and exciting.

Are you really Ken Corday? Dena Higley?

Do you secretly hate the show and you've just been faking your love of it this entire time? I MUST KNOW!
I'm not anybody but who I say I am LOL.

Do people really think I'm Corday or Higley? Wow...LOL. If I was, I would be living in a better house and not in Central New York LOL.

It's nothing too earth shattering and I only brought it up because you kind of brought me to do so. It's just something I think will shock people who I've debated with. I've been thinking about it for awhile and said I would do this when I felt the time was right for me and the time may soon be right.
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I used to buy that Madison and Beemer were fired because Corday didn't like the growing support for Phelle, but considering how popular Shimi was when they were first paired and the fact that Corday fired no one then, that theory no longer washes with me.
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DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 03:16 PM
Paxton
Jan 7 2009, 03:10 PM
I've heard that theory more than once, but I still have no idea why, if Corday adored Shelle so much, he would fire the actors simply because Jay and Martha were attracting some fans. It seems both pointless and cruel to me to take people's jobs away from them for that reason. I don't even like Shawn or Belle, but if Corday loved Shelle so much why didn't he just keep them on the job and instruct the writers there would be no Phelle? I seriously doubt Phelle would have gotten so popular that Phelle fans would have stormed the studio en masse and demanded their couple or else. I mean, we all have couples we would prefer, probably, but when we don't get them we either campaign or don't, but they do what they want to anyway.
That's a stupid theory, that I don't believe at all. You have two actors (Madison and Johnson) with great chemistry and a growing fanbase. Lets fire half of that couple (Madison), piss off, not only her new fanabse, but also her old fanbase (Shawn and Belle). That's real bright. Corday's an idiot, yes, but he's also a businessman and knows a popular duo when he sees one.

The only real and logical reason that makes the most sense to me is that Brandon Beemer and Martha Madison did not get along well on the set. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. One of them or both of them, for that matter, was difficult to work with and so they were both canned. Brandon Beemer found work, yet, Madison can't seem to get anything and she was the "more talented" one. Me thinks that there are rumors circulating the daytime world and sources at DAYS threw some of those whispers about what may have happend on set with Madison to the other shows and they're staying clear of Ms. Madison.
And that is another thing that has made the rounds around the net. There were also rumors of Martha being awfully rude to Alexis Thorpe too.

It's definitely puzzling but the one thing I feel sure it wasn't was budgetary reasoning. I could see them using that as an excuse but I doubt that was the case.
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:18 PM
It's nothing too earth shattering and I only brought it up because you kind of brought me to do so. It's just something I think will shock people who I've debated with. I've been thinking about it for awhile and said I would do this when I felt the time was right for me and the time may soon be right.
:eyeroll:

Are you serious? Didn't we just have a discussion about this not long ago, and you had people going off on you because you mentioned info that you had, but wouldn't tell? Why even mention it then?
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Mason
Jan 7 2009, 03:18 PM
I used to buy that Madison and Beemer were fired because Corday didn't like the growing support for Phelle, but considering how popular Shimi was when they were first paired and the fact that Corday fired no one then, that theory no longer washes with me.
Why would he have to?

JER destroyed Shimi on his own when he had Mimi keep the secret. Corday probably knew that was coming.

Not to mention last year there was even growing support of Shawn/Chloe. That as much as Phelle but many were starting to like them.

Corday is really that much of a moron. I mean, this is the same guy who sacrifices story potential all the time. His pushing Martha and Brandon out for reasons some of us are mentioning is not exactly uncharacteristic of him.
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Jan 7 2009, 03:23 PM
Mason
Jan 7 2009, 03:18 PM
I used to buy that Madison and Beemer were fired because Corday didn't like the growing support for Phelle, but considering how popular Shimi was when they were first paired and the fact that Corday fired no one then, that theory no longer washes with me.
Why would he have to?
Simple: the budget was a lot better back then.
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DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 03:22 PM
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Jan 7 2009, 03:18 PM
It's nothing too earth shattering and I only brought it up because you kind of brought me to do so. It's just something I think will shock people who I've debated with. I've been thinking about it for awhile and said I would do this when I felt the time was right for me and the time may soon be right.
:eyeroll:

Are you serious? Didn't we just have a discussion about this not long ago, and you had people going off on you because you mentioned info that you had, but wouldn't tell? Why even mention it then?
It's not inside info, Drew. Nothing like that at all. It's about Days and based on what we are seeing.

It's actually something that is supposed to be a little fun too.

Damnit, Kenny. Why the hell did you have to go and get me into trouble? :laugh:
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Mason
Jan 7 2009, 03:24 PM
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Jan 7 2009, 03:23 PM
Mason
Jan 7 2009, 03:18 PM
I used to buy that Madison and Beemer were fired because Corday didn't like the growing support for Phelle, but considering how popular Shimi was when they were first paired and the fact that Corday fired no one then, that theory no longer washes with me.
Why would he have to?
Simple: the budget was a lot better back then.
Good point. That was before the 2006 cuts.

I still think he knew Shimi had no chance. They were awfully rushed and it was clear it was merely just a way of keeping Shelle apart in addition to Philip.
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^ Just say it then?
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DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 03:25 PM
^ Just say it then?
I'm not ready LOL.

Are you that anxious? :laugh:
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:24 PM
Damnit, Kenny. Why the hell did you have to go and get me into trouble? :laugh:
LoL, I'm still trying to figure out how it's my fault that you feel the need to come out with this earth-shattering revelation!
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^ Well, um yeah, because you're making it out to be something.
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Kenny
Jan 7 2009, 03:27 PM
LoL, I'm still trying to figure out how it's my fault that you feel the need to come out with this earth-shattering revelation!
And if he's not going to, or doesn't feel the time is right, he shouldn't have said anything until the time was right.
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Tim, you have my antennae on overload.

And hello! I truly believe Corday axed Madison and Beemer because he wanted Kirsten Storms and Jason Cook back. At the time, KS was in new negotiations with GH and ultimately decided to stay. Cook, from what I've heard, wouldn't go back to Days if his life had depended on it.
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In the words of the infamous Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?" :smooch: :wub2:
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Jan 7 2009, 03:33 PM
Cook, from what I've heard, wouldn't go back to Days if his life had depended on it.
Which proves that God does exist.
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Jan 7 2009, 03:34 PM
In the words of the infamous Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?" :smooch: :wub2:
NO! *throws Molotov Cocktail through the Brady Pub Window*
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