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NELSON RATINGS — Every show, every week!; TVGC
Topic Started: Jan 5 2009, 03:55 PM (10,988 Views)
hoochielicious
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NavJLee8785
Jan 10 2009, 11:14 AM
hoochielicious...I was able to get him through his agent
Thanks for answering. :wave:
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brimike


Ellie
Jan 8 2009, 07:54 PM
brimike
Jan 8 2009, 07:16 PM
The thing about Ali is that when she was hired, she was AMAZING for her age. I dare anybody to find somebody else her age who made such an impact from Day One on the audience from the last ten years on any show. They're few and far between.

But (in my humble opinion), she basically just hit a wall somewhere around Year Five or Six, and just stopped growing as an actress. It's like she's been running in place, or for that matter, at a standstill, for the last decade.
Brimike, I tend to agree with most of your posts, but I really don't agree with this at all. I've personally felt that Ali was miscast as Sami from the beginning. When I think of some pivotal Sami scenes in '93 and '94, Ali's acting really falls flat. When Sami saw J&M in the conference room, Ali just stared at them, blinked, and looked like she didn't want to ruin her lip gloss. When Sami confronted Marlena and told Marlena that she'd seen what went on in the conference room, she just raised her voice and yelled her lines the entire time, and she didn't shed one tear. When Sami had to tell Abe that Alan raped her, there was not much emotion on her part either.

I don't remember her making the 'impact' you're saying she made, but I do think the character of Sami made an impact, given that she was such a villain even as a teen. I think it was a bold writing decision to have Sami be the one to catch J&M, and imo that was the cause of any buzz early on.

I think that Ali is adequate as "scheming Sami", and she carried that one note through the Sami-Lucas-Austin-Carrie 'quadrangle' . But aside from that, I've never felt she was even a passable actress in any area.
LOL! It was bound to happen, sooner or later, Ellie. :-)

I guess I do see your point, and you are right about her discovery of J/M in the boardroom. I guess most fifteen-year olds who show up on a soap are usually so monotone and so bland... they have zero personality. So compared with those, I remember Ali really making a splash when she first arrived. Although I did think of her as a poor man's Eve Donovan, I quickly fell in love with her those first couple of years. And I was pretty impressed with her, probably until Will's birth? Then it all started to go downhill.
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Jan 10 2009, 02:46 AM

During Aris first time on the show Nicole did alot of bad things, but I didn't see much bashing, just some that didn't like what Nicole did. You know when I started to see Ari-bashing? The minute she was paried with James Scott.


Tell it like it is, Sindacco. I love when you do that! :applause:

Great point of view, TheVirgin! That is an excellent way to sum up what alot of people have been saying.

And Nelson, I agree with cj. It would be awesome for you to get an interview with AS and give her some good questions...that have NOTHING to do with BL. She does have another job that she hardly speaks about, only as an afterthought.

Although if she reads any of your stuff since last summer, I am sure she will politely decline! LOL!
Edited by Alligato, Jan 10 2009, 11:54 AM.
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I'm not sure if Joe Penny wanted the short stint, or if he was hired for a short stint. I guess I just didn't realize HOW short the stint would be. I expected a couple of months, not a matter of days. I'm a HUGE Joe Penny fan, so you can understand why I was disappointed.

Joe Penny made a huge impact for me on the show, and I thought it was terrible that Days did not notice the potential. Of course I am biased, but I was just awed at his performance. I thought for sure, Days would pick him up. Tamara Braun was awesome as well. I like Mafia stories.

I guess I just thought that soaps are in trouble in general, and picking up somebody like Joe Penny was huge, and I was very surprised it was so short. IMO, soaps need real help. Getting seasoned actors to come on a soap opera and STAY there is very difficult.

Again, I realize I am biased, and I was not a Days viewer, so I know others may have had different opinions on his character and how he fit in on the soap opera. Many of you have years on this soap. I understand that. I am a CBS girl, and have watched those soaps for years as well. I was very excited to jump to another soap, because CBS has become aweful and redundant. I was really looking forward to a "change" of venue. It didn't last long.

Being truthful, I never went back to Days, because I wasn't as intrigued with the other characters to keep me watching. The story line with the Martinos came to an abrubt end. I am a fan of Diedra Hall, but we all know how that turned out.

I'm sad to say, my soap years are fastly coming to an end. All the vets I adore are being let go. I don't understand it. All I understand, is that soaps don't seem to care about oldies like myself, and what keeps ME interested in the drama. I don't know, I am finding soaps are just writing themselves in full circles, going nowhere.

I thank those who still enjoy my posts when I do post ( thank you cjknick for your very kind words) , but as you can see, its kind of difficult when I don't watch. LOL I do remember my time watching though, and I did form a few small opinions as a new viewer. But everything I seemed to like, or would have liked to see, came to a fast halt.

Edited by The Virgin, Jan 11 2009, 09:26 AM.
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I hope Nadia Bjorlin has been let go. I really can't stand Chloe anymore.
And i agree with those saying AS can't act. I've never seen real tears come out from her eyes. All she does is breathe and moan REALLY loud. I don't think that's good acting.
I'm shocked that people actually expected her to be nominated for an emmy.
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brimike
Jan 10 2009, 11:22 AM
And I was pretty impressed with her, probably until Will's birth? Then it all started to go downhill.
Hi, I understand what you're saying, and though I disagree, I 100% agree that Will's birth was a low point. I remember baby Will was sick after he was born, and the way Ali played the scenes, it reminded me of someone talking about a sick baby they'd heard about on the news, not their own child. I know it's not an easy acting assignment for anyone, but imo Ali didn't rise to the challenge at all.
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Ali is a good actress when the writing plays to her strengths. She has solid comedic timing, plays off adversaries well and delivers bitchy lines very effectively. However, she's too weak an emoter to pull off a lead heroine role. Funnily enough, I thought her best acting was during the mute storyline in '03. It forced her to inject subtlety into Sami's expressions rather than rely on the usual huffing and puffing characteristc of her dramatic scenes.
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Jan 11 2009, 06:46 PM
Funnily enough, I thought her best acting was during the mute storyline in '03. It forced her to inject subtlety into Sami's expressions rather than rely on the usual huffing and puffing characteristc of her dramatic scenes.
LoL! I never even thought of it that way, but that's a good point!

I still don't think anything she's done, before or after, has topped her work during the Vegas non-wedding in 2002. That's the one time I feel when she really did deserve an Emmy nomination.
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Ellie


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Jan 11 2009, 07:45 PM
I still don't think anything she's done, before or after, has topped her work during the Vegas non-wedding in 2002. That's the one time I feel when she really did deserve an Emmy nomination.
Oh no, I hope you're joking. Getting down on her knees and screaming AUSTINNNNNNNNN five or six times should disqualify her from anything else in that storyline, lol. (Seriously - which scenes are you thinking of in that story?? I can't come up with anything.)
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Ellie
Jan 11 2009, 07:53 PM
Mason
Jan 11 2009, 07:45 PM
I still don't think anything she's done, before or after, has topped her work during the Vegas non-wedding in 2002. That's the one time I feel when she really did deserve an Emmy nomination.
Oh no, I hope you're joking. Getting down on her knees and screaming AUSTINNNNNNNNN five or six times should disqualify her from anything else in that storyline, lol. (Seriously - which scenes are you thinking of in that story?? I can't come up with anything.)
LoL, I'm not! Her performance was so raw, I loved it!
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Jan 11 2009, 07:57 PM
Ellie
Jan 11 2009, 07:53 PM
Mason
Jan 11 2009, 07:45 PM
I still don't think anything she's done, before or after, has topped her work during the Vegas non-wedding in 2002. That's the one time I feel when she really did deserve an Emmy nomination.
Oh no, I hope you're joking. Getting down on her knees and screaming AUSTINNNNNNNNN five or six times should disqualify her from anything else in that storyline, lol. (Seriously - which scenes are you thinking of in that story?? I can't come up with anything.)
LoL, I'm not! Her performance was so raw, I loved it!
Haha ok. Where you see 'raw', I see something else. Guess we have different taste in Ali Sweeney performances, lol.
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Sindacco
Jan 9 2009, 03:42 PM
cjknick
Jan 8 2009, 07:29 PM
I really think that sometimes it takes the right acting partner to help you step it up ... I think for both Ali and now Ari - James Scott has been like their muse - they both stepped up their game.
Really? Cause I think she has gotten worse each year this decade (of course she has always been bad but it never gets better over the years).

LOL!
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It's sad that death has been made SUCH a JOKE on Days, because they could have faked Sami's death and sent the character off screen while Ali was pregnant. They could have also taken a hint from AMC and put Sami in a coma and given the viewers a few months a well deserved break........

I used to really like Sami and Ali, but now I'm sick of Sami the character and Ali's half assed acting that just seems to get worse.....

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Jan 11 2009, 10:03 PM
It's sad that death has been made SUCH a JOKE on Days, because they could have faked Sami's death and sent the character off screen while Ali was pregnant. They could have also taken a hint from AMC and put Sami in a coma and given a well deserved break for a few months........

I used to really like Sami and Ali, but now I'm sick of Sami the character and Ali's half assed acting that just seems to get worse.....

Yes, nothing more needs to be said. Except for the fact that EVERYTHING on Days is horrible joke.
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Mason
Jan 11 2009, 07:57 PM
LoL, I'm not! Her performance was so raw, I loved it!
I have to agree with Mason re: her work during the Vegas storyline.

Not so much the "AUSTINNNNNN" hysterics, but the way she delivered the dialogue in the scenes where she was describing "why I am the way I am," I thought she was fantastic. JMO.
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Jan 12 2009, 01:40 AM
Mason
Jan 11 2009, 07:57 PM
LoL, I'm not! Her performance was so raw, I loved it!
I have to agree with Mason re: her work during the Vegas storyline.

Not so much the "AUSTINNNNNN" hysterics, but the way she delivered the dialogue in the scenes where she was describing "why I am the way I am," I thought she was fantastic. JMO.
I have to agree too.

That was the best work of her career. Every once in awhile everything seems to align for an actor or actress and they give a special performance that ends up being their definitive moment. That was her's for me. Not only for Ali but for Sami. We actually got a recap of what brought Sami to that point and the harsh reality of what she really, truly was came to be on display. It was a wonderful moment for the character and actress. The material played to Ali's strength and her acting worked for the scene.

The only other time I felt Ali was even close to a performance like that was during the execution story. In those episodes leading up to and during the actual execution, I felt she raised her game and it's one of the only times I felt a connection with her on emotional material. I think the great performances of those around her motivated her enough and while her performance wasn't HUGE, it was still good enough to be one of her shining moments IMO.

The thing about Ali is she is good when the material suits her. That makes her average at best. The great actors are ones who can make anything work and can even rise above bad writing. Ali does not and that has particularly shown in recent years.
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I don't think Sweeney has any comic timing whatsoever; I never laugh at her on purpose. She tends to deliver her lines in a confused manner when she's supposed to be being funny, and she comes off to me as somewhat juvenile. Her loud laugh whenever Lucas says something that's supposed to be funny annoys me too. I also think she's not good as a romantic leading lady. She doesn't convey sexiness or longing or heat very well at all.

All those things being said, she does have her strengths. She engendered enormous amounts of sympathy for many viewers (me included) for many years, even when she was doing things that were horrible. Somehow, she was able to convey someone who just wanted to be loved but who didn't have the first clue how to go about it, and who couldn't understand why what she was doing didn't work. A friend of mine remarked to me shortly after EJ came on to the scene that she only liked Sami as a loser in love, and having had the opportunity to see her at the center of a (very annoying) triangle, I see what she meant. Sami to me doesn't work as anyone's first choice. I thought there was so much potential there originally with EJami, but for reasons there's no need to rehash, that got ruined for me. Now I wish they'd either write her off (permanently or temporarily) or pair her with someone utterly new or even better, let her be single for a good long while. Have a job, raise her kids, be like Roman--no love interest in sight.
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Jan 12 2009, 11:20 AM
I don't think Sweeney has any comic timing whatsoever; I never laugh at her on purpose. She tends to deliver her lines in a confused manner when she's supposed to be being funny, and she comes off to me as somewhat juvenile. Her loud laugh whenever Lucas says something that's supposed to be funny annoys me too.
Point taken but I don't hold Sheffer's contrived attempts to turn Lumi into a comic duo against her. She's had some very funny spontaneous moments over the years (scenes with Jack in '02, putting salt in Lucas's french toast in '04, various cat fights with Kate/Nicole/Carrie etc.)
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So I just read through this entire thread thinking that when I got toward the end I would find out what the big news is .. *sigh* oh well.

So my take on the whole Ari/Ali acting debate ... I am a fan of both. I love AS, and I am a big ole LUMI fan ... but Ari acts circles around Ali. When Ali first came on the show, I was in high school and taking drama classes, and I used to say that she must be related to someone at NBC because even I could act better than she could *blushes* I used to HATE her because I thought she must have gotten that job under false pretenses. But as time went by, she grew on me. I really began to like her when Lucas and Sami began to show that under all the hate for each other, they really had feelings for each other. I fell for LUMI, so I started to become a Sami fan. I still think that Ali is a decent actress, compared to how she was in the beginning, but I think she has definitely been slipping since she started doing TBL also. I disagree with whoever said that Ali is best in scenes with JS. I think Ali is really good in scenes with the DHs, with AZ, and with BD. I also really enjoyed her with MM, and thought they did not get enough scenes together. I do think that AS and JS had some spark in the first few months together on screen, but I think it faded away long ago.

Ari, on the other hand, wow. I mean, I HATED Nicole in the beginning (her first run). Absolutely COULD NOT STAND HER. I thought she was an ok actress, but the character was so blah. I was just starting to like her in the last few months before she left, when she was living with Austin and Sami in Sami's apartment. I loved the sparring between Sami and Nicole. Then she left, and I was a little dissappointed, but no big deal. Then, when EJ was revealed as a Dimera and actually a bad guy, I thought to myself, they should bring Nicole back! They would be perfect together! Now maybe, I'll admit, that might have had a little to do with my Lumi fandom, but mostly it was a genuine expectation that they would be a great couple. Lo and behold, DAYS actually made a great decision, and brought Ari back, and paired Nicole with EJ!! YAY! And they completely exceeded my expectations, chemistry-wise, and acting-wise, but not so much storyline-wise (but thats not AZ or JS fault, obviously). Now Ari has blown my mind with her improvements in her acting! I have a little experience with acting - not a lot - but enough to especially appreciate when I see commitment to one's craft, and real growth. That is what I see with Ari - and not with Ali - plus Nicole just steals the show! Her performances have real range, there is over-the-top and there is subtle, there is snark, humor, passion, desperation, anger, fear, I mean .. my gosh, the girl can do it all!
Ali - well, I agree with Ponz - I think she is good at the schemer, bitchy, snarky stuff, and I think she is decent with the comedy, especially when she is in scenes with BD. Do I think that she could play Nicole over the last several months at the level that Ari has? Hell no.
Still an Ali fan, though :)


.... and still hoping to hear the news soon .. oh, and it BETTER NOT be that Ari was let go! Or BD. Ugh, I hate what this show puts me through! :p
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For me, the best work Ali has done was on the valentines episode in 2007, when Lucas proposed to Sami.
Very beliveable acting. I mean, just look....

http://chit-chat-haven.com/days2007/feb07/02.14.2007/days02.14.2007.00006.jpg
http://chit-chat-haven.com/days2007/feb07/02.14.2007/days02.14.2007.00007.jpg


Sorry.. i just couldn't help myself.
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