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Topic Started: Jan 5 2009, 03:55 PM (10,998 Views)
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DrewHamilton
Jan 6 2009, 01:58 AM
^ They have several places to go. Daniel is not needed for Lucas and Chloe to have a story. If Christian leaves, Lucas and Chloe's story options are still pretty great. There's Brady. There's Philip. And then there's Sami, if they want to go down that road again. Or, if they want to be completely original, maybe, just maybe, they'll bring in a new woman for Lucas to cheat on Chloe with.
Yeah they do but I doubt they will think that way. Well, maybe they would with Lucas/Sami and Will coming back. They already seemingly ended Chloe/Brady and I just don't see them doing that, despite Days' way of backtracking on things. It would be great to toss Chloe toward Brady because they did rush that to an end. I doubt they will go back to Chloe/Philip as long as Philip is in Stephanie and Melanie's story. They seem committed to that now. I guess they could just bring in someone else. That they would do so good point there.

Your right in that Daniel isn't needed and I don't disagree with what you wrote. It's just a feeling I have she will be gone. I could be wrong. My gut's been wrong before LOL.
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Jan 6 2009, 02:02 AM
Yeah they do but I doubt they will think that way. Well, maybe they would with Lucas/Sami and Will coming back. They already seemingly ended Chloe/Brady and I just don't see them doing that, despite Days' way of backtracking on things. It would be great to toss Chloe toward Brady because they did rush that to an end. I doubt they will go back to Chloe/Philip as long as Philip is in Stephanie and Melanie's story. They seem committed to that now. I guess they could just bring in someone else. That they would do so good point there.
Have you been watching this show for the last year? When has it made something concrete because the show "seemed committed" to a particular story? Chloe is living proof of being bounced around from story to story, and proof that it can happen. I doubt the show's going to let Nadia go after trying so hard to get her back for as long as they did. They're going to keep her on, no matter what they have to do.
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"I know we're supposed to root for Bianca and Reese but I find Zach and Reese more intriguing. "

So do I!!!
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 6 2009, 01:59 AM
Ellie
Jan 6 2009, 01:56 AM
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Jan 6 2009, 01:49 AM
Well, remember they were on GH after Days and MBE was also on ATWT. In other words, considering their years in the business, they took a cut from what they normally would be expected to get based on their years in the business. Again, I don't have figures and I don't think exact numbers were reported but it was out there and mentioned for some time that it happened.
Ok, thanks. So I'd respectfully disagree with your conclusion then - I wouldn't put this type of 'paycut' in the same category as someone staying on the same show but taking a reduction in his/her salary (ie, PR and KA). You were saying that because SN and MBE took this type of cut when they came back, the show will keep them around now, but imo it's two completely different ideas. My guess (to follow the guessing theme in this thread, lol) is that they won't be offered a cut and will be let go.
Oh, you misunderstood. My bad LOL.

I think that cut was considered big at the time but not like the ones PR and KA took now. I think SN and MBE probably dropped down to around AS's level or maybe a little less. Something like that. Now, they will be asked to take a cut like PR and KA if not more.

I think the cut they took in 2006 is why Corday used them more in early 2007 and, if they do stick around and take a similar cut to PR and KA or take an even bigger one, I can see them being used like Bo and Hope are or around that sort of airtime.
LOL - still not sure I understand exactly what you're saying about the past, but I still disagree that they'll be offered a cut now. First of all, they're a couple, so any salary to keep them is double most others, since I don't think the show would ever cut one of them and not the other. Aside from that, where the budget is so tight, the show would really have to have concrete plans to write for them in order to keep them. Based on what Dena's done for them so far, I don't see that happening.
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Jan 6 2009, 01:53 AM
I think Nadia Bjorlin is pretty safe at this point. Aside from Nicole and Sami, she's the other "star" of the show.
There goes my dinner, LoL. :puke:
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DrewHamilton
Jan 6 2009, 02:05 AM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 6 2009, 02:02 AM
Yeah they do but I doubt they will think that way. Well, maybe they would with Lucas/Sami and Will coming back. They already seemingly ended Chloe/Brady and I just don't see them doing that, despite Days' way of backtracking on things. It would be great to toss Chloe toward Brady because they did rush that to an end. I doubt they will go back to Chloe/Philip as long as Philip is in Stephanie and Melanie's story. They seem committed to that now. I guess they could just bring in someone else. That they would do so good point there.
Have you been watching this show for the last year? When has it made something concrete because the show "seemed committed" to a particular story? Chloe is living proof of being bounced around from story to story, and proof that it can happen. I doubt the show's going to let Nadia go after trying so hard to get her back for as long as they did. They're going to keep her on, no matter what they have to do.
Your absolutely right and make a good point over how they so obviously wanted her back.

As I said, it's just a feeling I get. Nothing about Days surprises me so just because it seems they won't get rid of her means nothing with this show LOL.

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Ellie
Jan 6 2009, 02:09 AM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 6 2009, 01:59 AM
Ellie
Jan 6 2009, 01:56 AM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 6 2009, 01:49 AM
Well, remember they were on GH after Days and MBE was also on ATWT. In other words, considering their years in the business, they took a cut from what they normally would be expected to get based on their years in the business. Again, I don't have figures and I don't think exact numbers were reported but it was out there and mentioned for some time that it happened.
Ok, thanks. So I'd respectfully disagree with your conclusion then - I wouldn't put this type of 'paycut' in the same category as someone staying on the same show but taking a reduction in his/her salary (ie, PR and KA). You were saying that because SN and MBE took this type of cut when they came back, the show will keep them around now, but imo it's two completely different ideas. My guess (to follow the guessing theme in this thread, lol) is that they won't be offered a cut and will be let go.
Oh, you misunderstood. My bad LOL.

I think that cut was considered big at the time but not like the ones PR and KA took now. I think SN and MBE probably dropped down to around AS's level or maybe a little less. Something like that. Now, they will be asked to take a cut like PR and KA if not more.

I think the cut they took in 2006 is why Corday used them more in early 2007 and, if they do stick around and take a similar cut to PR and KA or take an even bigger one, I can see them being used like Bo and Hope are or around that sort of airtime.
LOL - still not sure I understand exactly what you're saying about the past, but I still disagree that they'll be offered a cut now. First of all, they're a couple, so any salary to keep them is double most others, since I don't think the show would ever cut one of them and not the other. Aside from that, where the budget is so tight, the show would really have to have concrete plans to write for them in order to keep them. Based on what Dena's done for them so far, I don't see that happening.
The thing that factors into my mindset (and I know some disagree) is that I think Corday will want to have another supercouple still on the show, at least until if and when J&M return. I don't think he thinks highly of them but I do think he feels they have enough fans to keep them around. He may want to keep them because of their connection to the Brady's or to interact with Bo and Hope since getting rid of them limits Bo and Hope drastically unless you just interact them with Abe and Lexie. I've always said I felt for years Corday liked having 3 couples. Now I feel he will settle for 2 under the circumstances. That's just my sense but I know others feel otherwise.

Your right in that they are a couple and he won't get rid of one without the other but I don't think that matters at all in this situation. I think people keep thinking they are going to massively cut cast. I don't see that. I think the biggest and most surprising already hit, unless James and/or Ali go. It's a 40% cut total for the show. Cast is not the only thing getting cut. Corday mentioned crew and production too so they will make cuts to the technical aspects. He also seemed to want to push for pay cuts first. I got the sense he didn't want to axe half the cast. I think he was hoping many would agree to cuts and he already got Ali, Peter, and Kristian unless something else has changed those situations and one or two of them is out. Maybe that could be what is so surprising but it's hard to see that. Honestly, I can see one or two major players going at most now and maybe one or two minor players. That's it. The rest will be cut from production, crew, etc. I think Drake and Dee were the biggies that they wanted to get out of the way.
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Jan 6 2009, 03:13 AM
The thing that factors into my mindset (and I know some disagree) is that I think Corday will want to have another supercouple still on the show, at least until if and when J&M return. I don't think he thinks highly of them but I do think he feels they have enough fans to keep them around. He may want to keep them because of their connection to the Brady's or to interact with Bo and Hope since getting rid of them limits Bo and Hope drastically unless you just interact them with Abe and Lexie. I've always said I felt for years Corday liked having 3 couples. Now I feel he will settle for 2 under the circumstances. That's just my sense but I know others feel otherwise.
LOL I guess I'm one of those people who think otherwise. I think Corday could care less about supercouples at this point. Where the show seems to be concentrating on pairing up every random 20 and 30 year old, I can't see Corday thinking that having an older supercouple is going to help him at all. And to be honest, if he were thinking that, I don't think Steve and Kayla would be first on his list; the show has hardly treated them as a 'supercouple' at all since their return. Much as I'd like to see otherwise on screen, I think the show's supercouple days are over for good.

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Your right in that they are a couple and he won't get rid of one without the other but I don't think that matters at all in this situation. I think people keep thinking they are going to massively cut cast. I don't see that. I think the biggest and most surprising already hit, unless James and/or Ali go. It's a 40% cut total for the show. Cast is not the only thing getting cut. Corday mentioned crew and production too so they will make cuts to the technical aspects. He also seemed to want to push for pay cuts first. I got the sense he didn't want to axe half the cast. I think he was hoping many would agree to cuts and he already got Ali, Peter, and Kristian unless something else has changed those situations and one or two of them is out. Maybe that could be what is so surprising but it's hard to see that. Honestly, I can see one or two major players going at most now and maybe one or two minor players. That's it. The rest will be cut from production, crew, etc. I think Drake and Dee were the biggies that they wanted to get out of the way.
Ok - totally disagree with all of this, lol. I'm guessing the complete opposite. Guess we'll just have to wait and see!
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I am going with James Scott, he probably did pull a JKJ - we have heard nothing on his contract negotiations and he has probably seen the writing on the show. He will probably be cut before his contract is out - and yes, that will be the end of the show.
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King
Jan 5 2009, 08:02 PM
OH, yeah, Abe and Lexie could go.

I don't really care though. LOL. I love Reynolds and Jones and all, but in these times, Abe and Lexie are just too boring to keep on a show where every penny counts. Anna and Tony too.
Dingley would fight for Abe and Lexie because of her drama-packed autism story. No, I'm sure they will never do anything logical that would cause the fans the least amount of angst. :drunk:
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Jan 5 2009, 07:28 PM
Well, it sounds like big news... we'll see.... I know Days held off on their cast cuts because of the D&D firing reax. Don't quote me, but I hear things are brewing....
My guess, SC and NB are gone baby gone. MBE and SN might not be far behind them.
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I'll say this, if JS doesn't renew or is let go, I think it is the final nail in the Days coffin. That would be too much, combined with loosing the two DH's. I don't think the show could survive it. (not to mention NOT getting rid of Higley)
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I love AS. She and JS are the only reason I watch this show anymore. I wish AZ would go! I used to like her character and she is a good actress, but Dena ruined Nicole. :puke: I don't know whose face I'm more tired of seeing, hers or MB's! Really, I could do with anyone leaving except AS and JS, and maybe JKJ (he's hot and that is always a plus!) Lol.
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Oh and I would like to add that if Nicole tries to steal Sami's baby, then it doesn't matter how well she acts it out, the GA is gonna root for Sami, so of course they will still care about her. That is only common sense. Sure some people hate Sami and that is fine, but I think the huge majority already liked her and by the time Nicole gets done, once naughty Sami will look like a saintly heroine!
Ari is a good actress, but Dena is writing her into a hole, IMO. It seems clear to me that Sami and EJ are the root for couple there, being lied to and having their baby stolen, blah, blah, blah. EJ will just have to forgive Sami for not telling him about the baby. I don't know how they are going to "redeem" Nicole's character. Faking a pregnancy and stealing a baby are pretty big time no nos for fans. I stopped feeling sorry for her a long time ago. They might be able to do it though....but they will need a better writer... :eyeroll:
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Jan 6 2009, 02:41 AM
DrewHamilton
Jan 6 2009, 01:53 AM
I think Nadia Bjorlin is pretty safe at this point. Aside from Nicole and Sami, she's the other "star" of the show.
There goes my dinner, LoL. :puke:
Here here! LOL
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Jan 6 2009, 11:58 AM
Oh and I would like to add that if Nicole tries to steal Sami's baby, then it doesn't matter how well she acts it out, the GA is gonna root for Sami, so of course they will still care about her. That is only common sense. Sure some people hate Sami and that is fine, but I think the huge majority already liked her and by the time Nicole gets done, once naughty Sami will look like a saintly heroine!
Ari is a good actress, but Dena is writing her into a hole, IMO. It seems clear to me that Sami and EJ are the root for couple there, being lied to and having their baby stolen, blah, blah, blah. EJ will just have to forgive Sami for not telling him about the baby. I don't know how they are going to "redeem" Nicole's character. Faking a pregnancy and stealing a baby are pretty big time no nos for fans. I stopped feeling sorry for her a long time ago. They might be able to do it though....but they will need a better writer... :eyeroll:
Why do characters need to be redeemed? One of my all time favorite characters on any soap was Iris Carrington who did bad, bad things but I loved her. Soaps need the good and the bad, those we love, those we hate, those we love to hate. Besides after all the things Sami has done, I find it difficult to say that Nicole is worse than she is.
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Thanks for posting Nelson!


I love this and ICAM!
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DAYS OF OUR LIVES — Zucker Punch
Pay attention, hair models: There’s only one reason and one reason only to check out DAYS and that’s Arianne Zucker. As a desperate Nicole sets up a predictable baby switch, Zucker has proven she’s the soap’s best actor (not that this honour is anything to write home about on this show, but nonetheless, it’s worth mentioning). I’d be worried if I was Alison Sweeney (Sami), who is set to begin her maternity leave soon. Will we still care about Sami when she returns to Salem?



Ari has been ROCKING the show and I can't wait for the fireworks when all of the lies (Nicole's and Sami's) are revealed!

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It seems that JS leaving would be the biggest hit the show would take currently. His contract is up in May and he is tied to many on canvas even if he isn't the center of any of those stories. It would definately removed the DiMera presence and those charcters.

Having MBE and SN leave would suck, but then they really haven't been featured and when they have been on canvas their story was less than desirable.

I'm in favor of removing some of the newer characters (read MB) rather than forcing them into every character's life for no good reason. But that's me.
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julieg1977
Jan 6 2009, 11:58 AM
Oh and I would like to add that if Nicole tries to steal Sami's baby, then it doesn't matter how well she acts it out, the GA is gonna root for Sami, so of course they will still care about her. That is only common sense. Sure some people hate Sami and that is fine, but I think the huge majority already liked her and by the time Nicole gets done, once naughty Sami will look like a saintly heroine!
Ari is a good actress, but Dena is writing her into a hole, IMO. It seems clear to me that Sami and EJ are the root for couple there, being lied to and having their baby stolen, blah, blah, blah. EJ will just have to forgive Sami for not telling him about the baby. I don't know how they are going to "redeem" Nicole's character. Faking a pregnancy and stealing a baby are pretty big time no nos for fans. I stopped feeling sorry for her a long time ago. They might be able to do it though....but they will need a better writer... :eyeroll:
Nicole isn't stealing a baby. She's trying to ADOPT.

If anyone is stealing a baby its SAMI who is actively conspiring to keep EJ from ever knowing he has another child.

Its too bad that Alison lacks the acting chops to make her character sympathetic while doing so.
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Jan 6 2009, 10:26 AM
I'll say this, if JS doesn't renew or is let go, I think it is the final nail in the Days coffin. That would be too much, combined with loosing the two DH's. I don't think the show could survive it. (not to mention NOT getting rid of Higley)
No way the show will fire him. I could see him try the same bargain as JKJ did, but his contract is up in May, so there is still enough time. And honestly, I would be really surprised if he left. JKJ is probably the hottest item right now regards the ability to find job elsewhere (primetime or daytime) and even he stayed, so I would not worry about JS much.

As for who may be let go, my tips are:

Shawn Christian - his contract is up in March and his story with Chloe about to end. Plus, he saved almost everyone already and it´s starting to be very predictable

Nadia Bjorlin - Corday loves her, but he loved MM too and Tomlin is the one who makes the decisions now. Her return was a bust, Higley doesn´t like her, Brady and Phillip both moved on and rumours are at fall she already appeared on Tomlin´s first cast cut list. They would have create a completely new direction for her (again) unless Shawn stays or Daniel is recast. Her contract ends in November 2009, but that doesn´t mean much.

Mary Beth Evans/Steve Nichols - they are only needed as the parrents for Stephanie and the story Corday previewed for them in SOD almost sounds like a goodbay. She gets in danger, his love saves her again, and then what? I really don´t see much chance for them to survive unless they agree with really drastic paycuts, much bigger than PR and KA.

Thaoo Penghilis - he is expensive, Emmy nominated actor who is barely used and the show is clearly not interested to write a story for him as the direction is DiMeras vs. Kiriakises with Nicol in the center, not DiMera vs. DiMera

Joseph Mascolo - Higley and/or Whittesel/Tomlin seem to completely overlook the fantasy/comix villain part of Stefano´s character. Dr. Rolf is gone and the laboratory is locked and abandoned. Stefano has the same function for EJ as Victor for Phillip and John Aniston is recurring. I think if Joe doesn´t agree with a massive cuts and probably smaller guarantee too, he will gone.

Renee Jones/James Reynolds - Dena had a big story for them, with Abe resigning and going after DiMeras and corrupted Salem mayor on his own, but either Tomlin or Whittesel clearly wasn´t a fan. The mayor was murdered the same week Whittesel started and Abe became a new Mayor instead of him, but immediatelly ended on backburner. And the autistic stuff is treated like an unwanted child nobody wants. Still, I think they will stay after all and agree with whatever deal Tomlin offers them.

Brian Dattilo - he was my sure bet till the latest SOD nows. It´s clear we will have Nicol/Brady/EJ triangle for a while, atleast till AS comes back from maternity leave. And even after she is back, the triangle will switch to Rafe/Sami/EJ with Nicol having Brady to pick up the pieces after the truth is revealed. And I doubt Chloe/Lucas will continue after her affair with Dan is out. But we know Will is coming back and soon, so they have some plans for Lucas too.

Lauren Koslow - she is another member of every cast cut lists, but always somewhat able to survive. Of course, if the rumours are true and she will end in a story with Stefano and Victor and Joe quits, they might let go her as well.
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