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Topic Started: Jan 5 2009, 03:55 PM (10,997 Views)
Days4Life


^Jane, I like the way you've reasoned things out, and I agree with your conclusions. If those scenarios do indeed play out, I won't be surprised or upset. However, because those options are the sensible ones, it makes me worry TPTB will go and do something crazy, like fire James Scott and Ari Zucker and move Sami into Alice Horton's house.
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jane1978
Jan 6 2009, 12:29 PM
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Jan 6 2009, 10:26 AM
I'll say this, if JS doesn't renew or is let go, I think it is the final nail in the Days coffin. That would be too much, combined with loosing the two DH's. I don't think the show could survive it. (not to mention NOT getting rid of Higley)
No way the show will fire him. I could see him try the same bargain as JKJ did, but his contract is up in May, so there is still enough time. And honestly, I would be really surprised if he left. JKJ is probably the hottest item right now regards the ability to find job elsewhere (primetime or daytime) and even he stayed, so I would not worry about JS much.

As for who may be let go, my tips are:

Shawn Christian - his contract is up in March and his story with Chloe about to end. Plus, he saved almost everyone already and itīs starting to be very predictable

Nadia Bjorlin - Corday loves her, but he loved MM too and Tomlin is the one who makes the decisions now. Her return was a bust, Higley doesnīt like her, Brady and Phillip both moved on and rumours are at fall she already appeared on Tomlinīs first cast cut list. They would have create a completely new direction for her (again) unless Shawn stays or Daniel is recast. Her contract ends in November 2009, but that doesnīt mean much.

Mary Beth Evans/Steve Nichols - they are only needed as the parrents for Stephanie and the story Corday previewed for them in SOD almost sounds like a goodbay. She gets in danger, his love saves her again, and then what? I really donīt see much chance for them to survive unless they agree with really drastic paycuts, much bigger than PR and KA.

Thaoo Penghilis - he is expensive, Emmy nominated actor who is barely used and the show is clearly not interested to write a story for him as the direction is DiMeras vs. Kiriakises with Nicol in the center, not DiMera vs. DiMera

Joseph Mascolo - Higley and/or Whittesel/Tomlin seem to completely overlook the fantasy/comix villain part of Stefanoīs character. Dr. Rolf is gone and the laboratory is locked and abandoned. Stefano has the same function for EJ as Victor for Phillip and John Aniston is recurring. I think if Joe doesnīt agree with a massive cuts and probably smaller guarantee too, he will gone.

Renee Jones/James Reynolds - Dena had a big story for them, with Abe resigning and going after DiMeras and corrupted Salem mayor on his own, but either Tomlin or Whittesel clearly wasnīt a fan. The mayor was murdered the same week Whittesel started and Abe became a new Mayor instead of him, but immediatelly ended on backburner. And the autistic stuff is treated like an unwanted child nobody wants. Still, I think they will stay after all and agree with whatever deal Tomlin offers them.

Brian Dattilo - he was my sure bet till the latest SOD nows. Itīs clear we will have Nicol/Brady/EJ triangle for a while, atleast till AS comes back from maternity leave. And even after she is back, the triangle will switch to Rafe/Sami/EJ with Nicol having Brady to pick up the pieces after the truth is revealed. And I doubt Chloe/Lucas will continue after her affair with Dan is out. But we know Will is coming back and soon, so they have some plans for Lucas too.

Lauren Koslow - she is another member of every cast cut lists, but always somewhat able to survive. Of course, if the rumours are true and she will end in a story with Stefano and Victor and Joe quits, they might let go her as well.
You really reasoned everything out real well.

Just want to add to that I just read in SOW a spoiler for next week that reads "Stefano's proposal is still on the table.'" Now I know Days drops things bit there does seem to be a plan for Kate based on that spoiler about her being caught between the two most powerful men in Salem. Koslow would likely take another pay cut after taking one last year so I doubt she will be gone. I actually think they will keep her around. I think alot will depend on who is willing to take the cuts. If Joe does, we may see a Stefano/Kate story or them stick around and being used. I get the feeling Tomlin would like to keep characters around like that. You need a rich, powerful family like the Dimera's and someone to stir things up like Kate and I think he knows that much from his Sunset, OLTL, and Passions days. Thaoo seemed pretty optimistic about the Dimera's staying on and the way he mentioned everyone having no choice but to take a cut it made it sound like many would be doing so.

I could see them just getting rid of Tony. Not sure about Stefano unless Joe balks at a lower salary. I don't think JS leaving necessarily means the Dimera's are out entirely. They would probably recast EJ. Again, it's a 40% cut as a whole. It's not just a 40% cast cut. Cutting Drake and Dee alone is already a big chunk and cutting down Ali, Peter, and Kristian is probably a big chunk too. Corday said there would be production cuts and crew cuts too. It's not just going to be cast cuts. That is why I think we may see one or two more big cut and maybe one or two minor ones and that will be it as far as cast goes.
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Mason


Oh, lord. The show's doomed with or without the almighty James Scott.
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Mason
Jan 6 2009, 08:10 PM
Oh, lord. The show's doomed with or without the almighty James Scott.
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I could kiss you!

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Jan 6 2009, 12:16 PM
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Jan 6 2009, 11:58 AM
Oh and I would like to add that if Nicole tries to steal Sami's baby, then it doesn't matter how well she acts it out, the GA is gonna root for Sami, so of course they will still care about her. That is only common sense. Sure some people hate Sami and that is fine, but I think the huge majority already liked her and by the time Nicole gets done, once naughty Sami will look like a saintly heroine!
Ari is a good actress, but Dena is writing her into a hole, IMO. It seems clear to me that Sami and EJ are the root for couple there, being lied to and having their baby stolen, blah, blah, blah. EJ will just have to forgive Sami for not telling him about the baby. I don't know how they are going to "redeem" Nicole's character. Faking a pregnancy and stealing a baby are pretty big time no nos for fans. I stopped feeling sorry for her a long time ago. They might be able to do it though....but they will need a better writer... :eyeroll:
Why do characters need to be redeemed? One of my all time favorite characters on any soap was Iris Carrington who did bad, bad things but I loved her. Soaps need the good and the bad, those we love, those we hate, those we love to hate. Besides after all the things Sami has done, I find it difficult to say that Nicole is worse than she is.
I don't think they all need to be redeemed, but Days apparently does since that seems to be their thing lately. They did it with Sami and EJ who I loved just as they were, but apparently they felt redemption was in order. So I figure they will try to do the same with Nicole and I'm just not sure it is going to work.
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Jan 6 2009, 12:20 PM
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Jan 6 2009, 11:58 AM
Oh and I would like to add that if Nicole tries to steal Sami's baby, then it doesn't matter how well she acts it out, the GA is gonna root for Sami, so of course they will still care about her. That is only common sense. Sure some people hate Sami and that is fine, but I think the huge majority already liked her and by the time Nicole gets done, once naughty Sami will look like a saintly heroine!
Ari is a good actress, but Dena is writing her into a hole, IMO. It seems clear to me that Sami and EJ are the root for couple there, being lied to and having their baby stolen, blah, blah, blah. EJ will just have to forgive Sami for not telling him about the baby. I don't know how they are going to "redeem" Nicole's character. Faking a pregnancy and stealing a baby are pretty big time no nos for fans. I stopped feeling sorry for her a long time ago. They might be able to do it though....but they will need a better writer... :eyeroll:
Nicole isn't stealing a baby. She's trying to ADOPT.

If anyone is stealing a baby its SAMI who is actively conspiring to keep EJ from ever knowing he has another child.

Its too bad that Alison lacks the acting chops to make her character sympathetic while doing so.
Uhh...Nelson mentioned a "baby switch" which is what I was referring to. If she switched the babies then she is STEALING.

Listen, I am never gonna feel sorry for her so I don't need to hear any defense of her. I am willing to disagree with people that is fine. I am just stating my opinions.

I think your comment about Ali was just plain rude. I think she is a terrific actress when she has good material. Ari just has the better writing lately but it doesn't mean she is a better actress, IMO. And if being sypathetic is what you are judging acting by, then Ari would suck because I am not sypathetic to Nicole AT ALL! If Ari were locked in a room with one person and given childish playground dialogue no one would want to watch that either. Dena and Co. is the problem here, IMO.
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Jan 6 2009, 12:19 PM
It seems that JS leaving would be the biggest hit the show would take currently. His contract is up in May and he is tied to many on canvas even if he isn't the center of any of those stories. It would definately removed the DiMera presence and those charcters.
No it wouldn't. All the other DiMeras on the show, Stefano, Tony, Lexie don't need EJ to be on. They have all been on the show longer than EJ and have much more history with the show.
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Jan 6 2009, 12:29 PM
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Jan 6 2009, 10:26 AM
I'll say this, if JS doesn't renew or is let go, I think it is the final nail in the Days coffin. That would be too much, combined with loosing the two DH's. I don't think the show could survive it. (not to mention NOT getting rid of Higley)
No way the show will fire him. I could see him try the same bargain as JKJ did, but his contract is up in May, so there is still enough time. And honestly, I would be really surprised if he left. JKJ is probably the hottest item right now regards the ability to find job elsewhere (primetime or daytime) and even he stayed, so I would not worry about JS much.

As for who may be let go, my tips are:

Shawn Christian - his contract is up in March and his story with Chloe about to end. Plus, he saved almost everyone already and itīs starting to be very predictable

Nadia Bjorlin - Corday loves her, but he loved MM too and Tomlin is the one who makes the decisions now. Her return was a bust, Higley doesnīt like her, Brady and Phillip both moved on and rumours are at fall she already appeared on Tomlinīs first cast cut list. They would have create a completely new direction for her (again) unless Shawn stays or Daniel is recast. Her contract ends in November 2009, but that doesnīt mean much.

Mary Beth Evans/Steve Nichols - they are only needed as the parrents for Stephanie and the story Corday previewed for them in SOD almost sounds like a goodbay. She gets in danger, his love saves her again, and then what? I really donīt see much chance for them to survive unless they agree with really drastic paycuts, much bigger than PR and KA.

Thaoo Penghilis - he is expensive, Emmy nominated actor who is barely used and the show is clearly not interested to write a story for him as the direction is DiMeras vs. Kiriakises with Nicol in the center, not DiMera vs. DiMera

Joseph Mascolo - Higley and/or Whittesel/Tomlin seem to completely overlook the fantasy/comix villain part of Stefanoīs character. Dr. Rolf is gone and the laboratory is locked and abandoned. Stefano has the same function for EJ as Victor for Phillip and John Aniston is recurring. I think if Joe doesnīt agree with a massive cuts and probably smaller guarantee too, he will gone.

Renee Jones/James Reynolds - Dena had a big story for them, with Abe resigning and going after DiMeras and corrupted Salem mayor on his own, but either Tomlin or Whittesel clearly wasnīt a fan. The mayor was murdered the same week Whittesel started and Abe became a new Mayor instead of him, but immediatelly ended on backburner. And the autistic stuff is treated like an unwanted child nobody wants. Still, I think they will stay after all and agree with whatever deal Tomlin offers them.

Brian Dattilo - he was my sure bet till the latest SOD nows. Itīs clear we will have Nicol/Brady/EJ triangle for a while, atleast till AS comes back from maternity leave. And even after she is back, the triangle will switch to Rafe/Sami/EJ with Nicol having Brady to pick up the pieces after the truth is revealed. And I doubt Chloe/Lucas will continue after her affair with Dan is out. But we know Will is coming back and soon, so they have some plans for Lucas too.

Lauren Koslow - she is another member of every cast cut lists, but always somewhat able to survive. Of course, if the rumours are true and she will end in a story with Stefano and Victor and Joe quits, they might let go her as well.
ICAM. Good Post.
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julieg1977
Jan 6 2009, 09:04 PM
I think your comment about Ali was just plain rude. I think she is a terrific actress when she has good material.
How is it rude to comment on an actor's talent (or lack thereof)? I could see it if someone made a disparaging remark about Ali's physical appearance, but since when has critiquing an actor's work been off limits?
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Jan 6 2009, 08:54 PM
Mason
Jan 6 2009, 08:10 PM
Oh, lord. The show's doomed with or without the almighty James Scott.
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I could kiss you!


LOL!
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julieg1977
Jan 6 2009, 09:04 PM
I think your comment about Ali was just plain rude.
Julieg1977, welcome to the DR board. We allow actor bashing here, as is detailed in our rules. Thanks!
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julieg1977
Jan 6 2009, 09:04 PM
ilovemydays
Jan 6 2009, 12:20 PM
julieg1977
Jan 6 2009, 11:58 AM
Oh and I would like to add that if Nicole tries to steal Sami's baby, then it doesn't matter how well she acts it out, the GA is gonna root for Sami, so of course they will still care about her. That is only common sense. Sure some people hate Sami and that is fine, but I think the huge majority already liked her and by the time Nicole gets done, once naughty Sami will look like a saintly heroine!
Ari is a good actress, but Dena is writing her into a hole, IMO. It seems clear to me that Sami and EJ are the root for couple there, being lied to and having their baby stolen, blah, blah, blah. EJ will just have to forgive Sami for not telling him about the baby. I don't know how they are going to "redeem" Nicole's character. Faking a pregnancy and stealing a baby are pretty big time no nos for fans. I stopped feeling sorry for her a long time ago. They might be able to do it though....but they will need a better writer... :eyeroll:
Nicole isn't stealing a baby. She's trying to ADOPT.

If anyone is stealing a baby its SAMI who is actively conspiring to keep EJ from ever knowing he has another child.

Its too bad that Alison lacks the acting chops to make her character sympathetic while doing so.
Uhh...Nelson mentioned a "baby switch" which is what I was referring to. If she switched the babies then she is STEALING.

Listen, I am never gonna feel sorry for her so I don't need to hear any defense of her. I am willing to disagree with people that is fine. I am just stating my opinions.

I think your comment about Ali was just plain rude. I think she is a terrific actress when she has good material. Ari just has the better writing lately but it doesn't mean she is a better actress, IMO. And if being sypathetic is what you are judging acting by, then Ari would suck because I am not sypathetic to Nicole AT ALL! If Ari were locked in a room with one person and given childish playground dialogue no one would want to watch that either. Dena and Co. is the problem here, IMO.


I'll take the high road and refrain from saying more than this, I wouldn't say I was rude. I would say I was being HONEST. Furthermore I never suggested that you had to do anything or feel anything for anyone and I maintain that switching her dead baby for an adopted living child is not stealing even if it is gruesome.

Seriously, who has GOOD material on DAYS? Ari? Nicole is wandering around wearing a rubber baby bumper spending her days trying to avoid letting the truth out while looking for a baby to replace the one she lost. Ari gives impression that she has superior material because she has been able to transcend the limitations of the writing.

IMO Alison has been given ample opportunity to step up her game. Heck they constructed a set, hired cast,created an entire storyline and have timed the reveal around her real life pregnancy but she still seems unable or unwilling to show depth and range in her character. What a WASTE.
Edited by ilovemydays, Jan 6 2009, 09:39 PM.
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^ preach it, girl! Excellent point!


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Ok here is my guess ...

The big surprise is .... MBE will be the one let go but Stephan is safe. And an even bigger surprise would be if Peter and MBE are out ..... but Stephan and Kristen are Safe!

Additional changes ...

Darin - out
Rachel - out
Shawn C - out
Nadia - out
Either Bryan D or Galen G - out

Going to reoccuring ...

Thaao
Peggy
Suzanne
Josh
James R - maybe
Renee - maybe




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Well Days is always good for a conversation starter...that's for sure.
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Jan 6 2009, 08:55 PM
So I figure they will try to do the same with Nicole and I'm just not sure it is going to work.
If they can redeem EJ for all the crap he has done for the woman he loved, then Nicole can be redeemed too. Very easily in EJ's eyes.

The funny thing about Nicole and EJ is all Nicole has to do is ask EJ, "have you ever been so in love with someone that you would do anything to keep them? Tell them any lie? Be so desperate for their love that nothing would stop you from being with them?"
"Have you ever been so desperate to hold on to someone?"
EJ really can't argue with that.

Technically, Sami could use the same arguement, except in her case, she isn't doing it to keep EJ...she is doing it to keep him away from their baby. That's going to be a toughy.

I really can't wait to see what happens with all of them!!!
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Jan 7 2009, 12:00 AM
Well Days is always good for a conversation starter...that's for sure.
Sure is LOL.

You know what? I never thought of that but it would fit. Either getting rid of half of Bope or half of Payla. Maybe the purpose behind Bo's visions is to build up to one or two exiting. Hmm...that would fit the description of this being a surprise and dramatic.

I think Bope are safe though but since Kayla is supposed to be in danger, maybe she or SN is out and the other is staying. I love them but I would prefer they keep SN. I think they can do more with him and he's an amazing actor. MBE is too but Days needs all the great male actors it can have. They could squeeze alot of drama out of getting rid of one of them. Then again, SN seemed awfully pissed at the fan event in November so maybe he balked and he's a goner and MBE is staying once again without him.

God, just announce this shit already, Days. I really wish we could get hints or get all this out. It's madness.
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I'd feel so bad for S&K fans if, after all this time, Steve or Kayla were to be killed off, after only two years of being back together. What a shitty thing to do.
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Jan 7 2009, 12:05 AM
Scott
Jan 7 2009, 12:00 AM
Well Days is always good for a conversation starter...that's for sure.
Sure is LOL.

You know what? I never thought of that but it would fit. Either getting rid of half of Bope or half of Payla. Maybe the purpose behind Bo's visions is to build up to one or two exiting. Hmm...that would fit the description of this being a surprise and dramatic.

I think Bope are safe though but since Kayla is supposed to be in danger, maybe she or SN is out and the other is staying. I love them but I would prefer they keep SN. I think they can do more with him and he's an amazing actor. MBE is too but Days needs all the great male actors it can have. They could squeeze alot of drama out of getting rid of one of them. Then again, SN seemed awfully pissed at the fan event in November so maybe he balked and he's a goner and MBE is staying once again without him.

God, just announce this shit already, Days. I really wish we could get hints or get all this out. It's madness.
I think splitting up S&K would be a big surprise and if they split up BOPE too that would really be even a bigger surprise ... this could open up a s/l for Steve and Hope to come together! Now that would be a shocker - but just the kind of shocker that could get people to tune in.... many may be mad but at least half of each supercouple is still on ... I think it would be BOLD - but I would tune in to watch a Steve and Hope romance. It would get the BUZZ for sure! Mag covers - the blogs would be on fire ..... it would be the twist that no one saw coming.
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Jan 7 2009, 12:15 AM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 12:05 AM
Scott
Jan 7 2009, 12:00 AM
Well Days is always good for a conversation starter...that's for sure.
Sure is LOL.

You know what? I never thought of that but it would fit. Either getting rid of half of Bope or half of Payla. Maybe the purpose behind Bo's visions is to build up to one or two exiting. Hmm...that would fit the description of this being a surprise and dramatic.

I think Bope are safe though but since Kayla is supposed to be in danger, maybe she or SN is out and the other is staying. I love them but I would prefer they keep SN. I think they can do more with him and he's an amazing actor. MBE is too but Days needs all the great male actors it can have. They could squeeze alot of drama out of getting rid of one of them. Then again, SN seemed awfully pissed at the fan event in November so maybe he balked and he's a goner and MBE is staying once again without him.

God, just announce this shit already, Days. I really wish we could get hints or get all this out. It's madness.
I think splitting up S&K would be a big surprise and if they split up BOPE too that would really be even a bigger surprise ... this could open up a s/l for Steve and Hope to come together! Now that would be a shocker - but just the kind of shocker that could get people to tune in.... many may be mad but at least half of each supercouple is still on ... I think it would be BOLD - but I would tune in to watch a Steve and Hope romance. It would get the BUZZ for sure! Mag covers - the blogs would be on fire ..... it would be the twist that no one saw coming.
Well, I wrote a story in a blog about them coming together and it tied into their past. SN and KA have great chemistry but I think it's bad timing. I think they would have to wait a bit before jumping into that. I don't think Bope are being split but Steve and Kayla, who Corday did throw under the bus in spring 2007 in SOD, are fair game. He already has reason to believe they have no impact on ratings and many more recent fans did have difficulty warming up to them. I can see it happening. SN did seem rather upset and MBE was her normal cheerful self. Maybe during negotiations SN blew up and quit and MBE is staying on so Stephanie has one parent. I can see this being one of the few things Days could do right now that would be surprising and dramatic. We already know Steve and Kayla will be a part of Bope's story and Kayla's life is in danger. The setup is there.
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