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Topic Started: Jan 5 2009, 03:55 PM (10,994 Views)
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Okay now, if they fire Arianne Zuker....I don't know! That would just baffle me, maybe even more than it did that they fired Deidre Hall. I mean, Higley obviously has a hard on for Nicole....she has gotten loads of story ever since she returned. Tomlin/Whitesell seem to like her too, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if it was them who gave her this big story she has! And I imagine with everyone else loving her Corday likes her, too.

And if she leaves, with how much Arianne/Nicole is leading the show right now, WHO is going to lead the show? Especially if by some chance JS is gone? I mean, the only leading lady we'd have is Sami, who's probably going to be in that safehouse until Ali returns from maternity leave.
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I can't believe after Deidre Hall has just been fired from DAYS that people are still saying that certain stars will never be fired. Freaking Deidre Hall was fired! She has been DAYS for the last 30+ years. Anyone and everyone can be fired.
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^Your right, Drew, but I think with Ari it's more a case of her being the A star right now and she is seemingly well-liked. It doesn't seem to make sense to axe someone who is basically the show's star right now.
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NavJLee8785
Jan 7 2009, 09:45 AM
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Jan 7 2009, 01:40 AM
OneBadKitty
Jan 7 2009, 01:12 AM
Well hold on a tic. Some of the Days actors do go through their managers or publicists and not the show - Jim Reynolds is one of them.

But then again, why would Days tell Navvy no to an interview with Ari and then turn around and tell him to contact her manager? Why not just say Ari goes through her manager for publicity?

Yikes.
Could her personal life somehow play here? Sorry if that is a stupid question but there are rumors of her having marital trouble.

NaVell, did they turn around and direct you to her manager immediately after saying no or did they say no in one call or email and suggest contacting her manager in another? I think that may make a difference because it's strange if they say no and then immediately suggest talking to her agent. That makes it sound like something is up unless the show just got confused on how she should or preferred to be reached.
This was IMMEDIATELY after DAYS said no. It was in the same e-mail.
Ah, ok.

I do like the reasoning the publicist being incompetent LOL. That makes sense, especially with it being Days LOL.
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 02:44 PM
^Your right, Drew, but I think with Ari it's more a case of her being the A star right now and she is seemingly well-liked. It doesn't seem to make sense to axe someone who is basically the show's star right now.
Look around. It's happened before. Brandon Beemer and Martha Madison were part of an A storyline along with Jay Kenneth Johnson and Nadia Bjorlin. They were canned. Joseph Mascolo was fired when they were just beginning John's storyline last year, and he was in that storyline waist deep.

I'm sorry, but Zucker is noy safe. No one is.
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DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 02:50 PM
Look around. It's happened before. Brandon Beemer and Martha Madison were part of an A storyline along with Jay Kenneth Johnson and Nadia Bjorlin. They were canned.
Phoenix is going to say that Martha and Brandon's firings were the result of a regime change, and since there's no regime change right now, Ari is safe. I betcha $0.20! ;)
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DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 02:50 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 02:44 PM
^Your right, Drew, but I think with Ari it's more a case of her being the A star right now and she is seemingly well-liked. It doesn't seem to make sense to axe someone who is basically the show's star right now.
Look around. It's happened before. Brandon Beemer and Martha Madison were part of an A storyline along with Jay Kenneth Johnson and Nadia Bjorlin. They were canned. Joseph Mascolo was fired when they were just beginning John's storyline last year, and he was in that storyline waist deep.

I'm sorry, but Zucker is noy safe. No one is.
Dang it you're right - anybody can go at anytime - there is no rhyme or reason!
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Kenny
Jan 7 2009, 02:55 PM
Phoenix is going to say that Martha and Brandon's firings were the result of a regime change, and since there's no regime change right now, Ari is safe. I betcha $0.20! ;)
:lol:
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DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 02:50 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 02:44 PM
^Your right, Drew, but I think with Ari it's more a case of her being the A star right now and she is seemingly well-liked. It doesn't seem to make sense to axe someone who is basically the show's star right now.
Look around. It's happened before. Brandon Beemer and Martha Madison were part of an A storyline along with Jay Kenneth Johnson and Nadia Bjorlin. They were canned. Joseph Mascolo was fired when they were just beginning John's storyline last year, and he was in that storyline waist deep.

I'm sorry, but Zucker is noy safe. No one is.
Good points, Drew.

I guess the difference, and this is just for me, is that she seemed like by Higley, Corday. and Tomlin. Plus, most fans seem to like her. The numbers have gone up in the past few months she's been featured in the A story. She also doesn't cost as much.

With Joe, it was said at the time that they were resting him during the strike and, ultimately, they just didn't want to bring him back for whatever reason. I think Stefano was just left in limbo because of all the writing upheaval. Belle and Shawn was different. I still believe Corday felt Shelle was being threatened by the growing popularity of Phelle and that he had designs on bringing back Cook and Storms somehow or maybe just Cook. That exit makes no sense otherwise and it came right at the peak of the quad. I know you and I disagreed on this but I still feel as though this was the case.

It's not like with Ari IMO where there seems like there is no dissension at all behind the scenes. It seems everyone is in agreement as far as her being on the frontburner. That is why it would make no sense to me just like them firing James Scott would make no sense. Sure, they could quit on their own but I can see Days firing them or wanting to get rid of them when they are very much the centerpiece of the show. I don't see Corday wanting to interfere as to who ends up together, at least not right now. I just see no logical reason they would axe Ari or James unless one or both balked at a pay cut. It doesn't make sense, otherwise.

But your right in that no one should really be considered safe. Some may seem safe more then others but that doesn't mean they aren't fair game. I'm just saying it's hard for me to see the show axing James or Ari and I don't expect Ali, Peter, or Kristian to go when they just took pay cuts. They would've just released them before that.

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Kenny
Jan 7 2009, 02:55 PM
DrewHamilton
Jan 7 2009, 02:50 PM
Look around. It's happened before. Brandon Beemer and Martha Madison were part of an A storyline along with Jay Kenneth Johnson and Nadia Bjorlin. They were canned.
Phoenix is going to say that Martha and Brandon's firings were the result of a regime change, and since there's no regime change right now, Ari is safe. I betcha $0.20! ;)


Am I that predictable? :laugh:

Nope. That was all Corday. I know some will disagree but it was obvious, at least to me.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, Jan 7 2009, 03:03 PM.
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:01 PM
Belle and Shawn was different.
Is that close enough? Do I get my twenty cents? LoL
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:01 PM
I don't expect Ali, Peter, or Kristian to go when they just took pay cuts. They would've just released them before that.

That's operating on the assumption that Corday's mind works on the level of common sense - which we all know it doesn't. I don't believe that anyone, including Peter, Kristian, and Ali, are safe.
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Mason
Jan 7 2009, 03:03 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:01 PM
I don't expect Ali, Peter, or Kristian to go when they just took pay cuts. They would've just released them before that.

That's operating on the assumption that Corday's mind works on the level of common sense - which we all know it doesn't. I don't believe that anyone, including Peter, Kristian, and Ali, are safe.
I agree.

This is the same man who fires people, re-hires them two weeks later, then fires them again two weeks into their new contract... then re-hires them again. There's no rhyme or reason to his business decisions.
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Kenny
Jan 7 2009, 03:03 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:01 PM
Belle and Shawn was different.
Is that close enough? Do I get my twenty cents? LoL
Eh....sure LOL.

What the hell...I can afford that.

Actually, you may get someone better then that soon enough. I may be posting something this weekend that may shock the hell out of you and others. I still have to think more before I do it though.
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Mason
Jan 7 2009, 03:03 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:01 PM
I don't expect Ali, Peter, or Kristian to go when they just took pay cuts. They would've just released them before that.

That's operating on the assumption that Corday's mind works on the level of common sense - which we all know it doesn't. I don't believe that anyone, including Peter, Kristian, and Ali, are safe.
Oh, no argument here.

Again, not saying anyone is really safe. I just think some are more then others based on circumstances. With Corday involved though, you just never know. Who knows what goes through that guys mind nor do I want to know, really.
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:06 PM
I may be posting something this weekend that may shock the hell out of you and others. I still have to think more before I do it though.
What?

Well that's mysterious and exciting.

Are you really Ken Corday? Dena Higley?

Do you secretly hate the show and you've just been faking your love of it this entire time? I MUST KNOW!
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:01 PM
I guess the difference, and this is just for me, is that she seemed like by Higley, Corday. and Tomlin. Plus, most fans seem to like her. The numbers have gone up in the past few months she's been featured in the A story. She also doesn't cost as much.

With Joe, it was said at the time that they were resting him during the strike and, ultimately, they just didn't want to bring him back for whatever reason. I think Stefano was just left in limbo because of all the writing upheaval. Belle and Shawn was different. I still believe Corday felt Shelle was being threatened by the growing popularity of Phelle and that he had designs on bringing back Cook and Storms somehow or maybe just Cook. That exit makes no sense otherwise and it came right at the peak of the quad. I know you and I disagreed on this but I still feel as though this was the case.

It's not like with Ari IMO where there seems like there is no dissension at all behind the scenes. It seems everyone is in agreement as far as her being on the frontburner. That is why it would make no sense to me just like them firing James Scott would make no sense. Sure, they could quit on their own but I can see Days firing them or wanting to get rid of them when they are very much the centerpiece of the show. I don't see Corday wanting to interfere as to who ends up together, at least not right now. I just see no logical reason they would axe Ari or James unless one or both balked at a pay cut. It doesn't make sense, otherwise.

But your right in that no one should really be considered safe. Some may seem safe more then others but that doesn't mean they aren't fair game. I'm just saying it's hard for me to see the show axing James or Ari and I don't expect Ali, Peter, or Kristian to go when they just took pay cuts. They would've just released them before that.
And Belle and Shawn weren't liked? Corday freaking loved them. And don't tell me you know Higley didn't like them because she had no problem writing for them the first time around. So I don't buy that just because "so and so" likes a person, that means they won't be leaving the show.

And I laugh at the fact that people are still believing that DAYS had this plan to bring back Storms and Cook? Where the hell did this come from? Are you honestly telling me that the TPTB thoguht Kirsten Storms was going to leave GH for DAYS? Please! That's stupid.

Shawn and Belle were written out because of budget issues. I'm sure Corday wanting them to have a happy ending went along with it, and was the reason both were written out together, but it was budget issues. That's the only excuse I'm accepting. If it weren't, there was no reason to write them out. Corday wants them to be happy, then just tell Higley to write them as a couple. Simple solution.

James Scott and Arianne Zucker can be replaced. I'm sorry, but they can. I know they both have their fanbases, but DAYS survived without them for years, and they can survive without them now. DEIDRE FUCKING HALL WAS FIRED!!!!!!!! That, alone, should be enough to convince anyone that no one on this show is safe.

And until I get a quote from Higley, Corday or Tomlin saying that they "LOVE ARIANNE ZUCKER AND WOULD NEVER FIRE HER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES," almost close to what Corday said about Deidre Hall years ago, then I'm not buying that she's safe because TPTB likes her. That's bullshit.

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Kenny
Jan 7 2009, 03:03 PM
Is that close enough? Do I get my twenty cents? LoL
*throws Kenny two dimes*
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I've heard that theory more than once, but I still have no idea why, if Corday adored Shelle so much, he would fire the actors simply because Jay and Martha were attracting some fans. It seems both pointless and cruel to me to take people's jobs away from them for that reason. I don't even like Shawn or Belle, but if Corday loved Shelle so much why didn't he just keep them on the job and instruct the writers there would be no Phelle? I seriously doubt Phelle would have gotten so popular that Phelle fans would have stormed the studio en masse and demanded their couple or else. I mean, we all have couples we would prefer, probably, but when we don't get them we either campaign or don't, but they do what they want to anyway.
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PhoenixRising05
Jan 7 2009, 03:06 PM
Actually, you may get someone better then that soon enough. I may be posting something this weekend that may shock the hell out of you and others. I still have to think more before I do it though.
What does that even mean?
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