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American Idol Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 6 2009, 04:55 PM (65,020 Views)
KMan101
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The DialIdol predictor guy on the forums has Kris barely in the last slot as the East Coast voting ends.

I'm really hoping the West Coast pushes Danny to the bottom again.

Sigh.

I really want Kris to stay but I'm pretty much on-board for an Allison/Adam finale. It's either/or with Danny and Kris. Just a matter of this week or next for them.
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Kenny
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Remember, text votes aren't counted in those predictions. I think Kris Allen gets lots of text votes -- especially with young female viewers. They think he's a sex symbol, LoL. Gokey on the other hand... well, I can't see text votes helping him much.
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I don't remember Taylor being overly praised though. Randy and Paula did praise him alot but Simon was bashing him all the time. He never really liked him. Daughtry was the chosen one that year and I could never figure out who else was. Katherine got bashed left and right and Elliot never seemed to win their support completely.

I do think they may toss Alison down with Danny and make you think it's her. If they know Danny is gone, they will do that because they will want to get Alison some more votes because I can't see them wanting Kris in the finale.

I've never seen Simon this bad. Never. As I've said, last year he would say who he felt had the best chance but he never was so adamant as he's been this year. He never participated in the pimping last year, at least not to the extent of the others. It's bothersome because usually I agree with him. Alot of his comments regarding Kris and Alison have made no sense. It reeks of agenda pushing . I know last week he did what he did to help their votes and it worked but, at times this year, he's been awful to them. That is why I was so happy when Kara said what she said about Alison's personality because Simon has not shutup all year about that. I think Simon liked Alison getting feisty with him too. I just can't understand why this show has not seen how good Alison is. She is just as commercial as Adam and is a fantastic vocalist.

I also agree that the duet had finale written all over it. It played like the traditional duet that the final two do on the night the winner is crowned. Loved it. My hope is that the duet erased any doubt at who should go to the finale. You can tell Adam and Alison are close too. I almost get the feeling those two are the only two who truly get along right now of those who are left. Just the way they interacted seemed to indicated that, although Alison and Danny seemed to get along last week when we saw the food fight and all last week.

Danny and Kris looked strange. You could almost feel the tension. Kris looked pissed too. You can tell Danny was upstaging him so it had to be about that.
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MichaelGL
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A couple of things...

You know Randy, Paula, Simon and whatsherface, Adam is not Jesus. I think tonight was his worst performance ever. The screeching, makes my ears bleed. Surprisingly I find myself agreeing with Simon half the time, but the guy was way off tonight. I think Allison and Kris were actually the two best. Adam was the same old tired screeching mess he's always been, and Danny omg...wtf was that? I hated how it seemed as if Danny was trying to out sing Kris by yelling.

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Kenny
May 5 2009, 10:16 PM
Remember, text votes aren't counted in those predictions. I think Kris Allen gets lots of text votes -- especially with young female viewers. They think he's a sex symbol, LoL. Gokey on the other hand... well, I can't see text votes helping him much.
GREAT point.

In fact, I think Alison is helped by text votes too. How many times this season has Dialidol had both Kris and Alison in the bottom or gone only to have them not even in the bottom 3 or safe? That has to mean something.

I will keep checking on that system in the link I posted. As I've said, the west coast has favored Kris alot more then Danny this year so I hope that holds.

Keep an eye out tomorrow for anything on the radio or TV pertaining to Idol. I know they said very little last week but there was whispering that there would be a shock last week and we sort of got one with Adam in the bottom 2. If Idol starts hyping up a big shocker, I think we will know that Danny may likely be gone.
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Yeah, I was so annoyed by Danny in his duet with Kris. That alone was just pathetic on his part. Adam and Allison sang really well together and I loved it.

I'm glad you see my point, Tim, about Simon. He's been really adamant this season and I just don't get it.

I exaggerated a bit with Taylor Hicks, but I remember almost always groaning because I never remember him ever getting all that majorly bashed. But, man, who can really remember? LoL! Daughtry was of COURSE the chosen one, but man, LoL, he went home fourth. Hell, who's to say Adam couldn't?
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May 5 2009, 10:17 PM
Danny and Kris looked strange. You could almost feel the tension. Kris looked pissed too. You can tell Danny was upstaging him so it had to be about that.
Danny seems like one of those guys who would look at a bride in her wedding dress and tell her she looks fat as a joke. Then he'd laugh it off and say, "Aw, I'm only kidding! Tee-hee!"

He probably got up on stage and thought it would be a fun little game to drown Kris out, with every intention of nudging him backstage and saying, "Heh... what'd you think about that? Huh? HUH? I totally threw you off!" He probably thought Kris would find it funny. I hope Kris told him to fuck off the moment they got off the stage, LoL.

I think he's very childlike and immature and probably sometimes doesn't even realize that he's coming across as a major douche. He seems to wear rose-colored glasses and can't see how the jaded American public probably perceives him as a complete ass. The same way he didn't realize he was coming across as total creeper when he had his hands all over underage Allison's boobs during that cake fight. Eww.
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Adam dodged his bullet. The guy is a lock for the finale now.

I just looked at another site with a great track record this season. They have been 90% correct the past 3 years and has been only wrong once this year.

http://www.votenumber1.com/voteamericanidol.html

They have Danny going by a wide margin.
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Kenny
May 5 2009, 10:28 PM
PhoenixRising05
May 5 2009, 10:17 PM
Danny and Kris looked strange. You could almost feel the tension. Kris looked pissed too. You can tell Danny was upstaging him so it had to be about that.
Danny seems like one of those guys who would look at a bride in her wedding dress and tell her she looks fat as a joke. Then he'd laugh it off and say, "Aw, I'm only kidding! Tee-hee!"

He probably got up on stage and thought it would be a fun little game to drown Kris out, with every intention of nudging him backstage and saying, "Heh... what'd you think about that? Huh? HUH?" He probably thought Kris would find it funny. I hope Kris told him to fuck off the moment they got off the stage, LoL.

I think he's very childlike and immature and probably sometimes doesn't even realize that he's coming across as a major douche. He seems to wear rose-colored glasses and can't see how the jaded American public probably perceives him as a complete ass. The same way he didn't realize he was coming across as total creeper when he had his hands all over underage Allison's boobs during that cake fight. Eww.
I can buy that, although my feeling is that all the praise and attention got to his head and it doesn't help that he keeps getting more even when he does not deserve it. Either that or I just misread who he was because early on he seemed so genuine and likable. Actually, it was after his friend got cut that he started to lose what I liked about him.

I can only imagine what happened with Kris and Danny afterwards. Maybe that is why Kris sucked on his solo. He wasted all his energy fighting with Danny because of what happened with the duet LOL. Danny and Kris were two that I thought would be close because of their similar lifestyles and beliefs but tonight you could tell things got dicey, if they weren't already.
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I just re-watched the Danny/Kris duet and I noticed that Danny sang the wrong lyrics.

The ending line should've been "I'm so far from my home" and Danny sang "I don't have very long." Keep in mind, he sang this line incorrectly while drowning out Kris and treating him like nothing more than a backup singer to his song. That extremely loud vocal run he did at the end was ridiculous for a duet. Danny just took it over completely. Honestly, I think he forgot that Kris was even on stage with him.

You know what it reminded me of? It reminded me of that skit on SNL several years ago where they mocked Celine Dion for drowning out everyone she sings with. "I am dee greatest singer in dee whirl!" That was Danny Gokey tonight, all the way.
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Kenny
May 5 2009, 10:49 PM
I just re-watched the Danny/Kris duet and I noticed that Danny sang the wrong lyrics.

The ending line should've been "I'm so far from my home" and Danny sang "I don't have very long." Keep in mind, he sang this line incorrectly while drowning out Kris and treating him like nothing more than a backup singer to his song. That extremely loud vocal run he did at the end was ridiculous for a duet. Danny just took it over completely. Honestly, I think he forgot that Kris was even on stage with him.

You know what it reminded me of? It reminded me of that skit on SNL several years ago where they mocked Celine Dion for drowning out everyone she sings with. "I am dee greatest singer in dee whirl!" That was Danny Gokey tonight, all the way.
LOL!

I can see that!

I didn't notice him singing the wrong lyrics, even after watching it back. Wow...I still remember Archie doing that last year too although he was nowhere near the smugness of Danny.

I'm looking around at so many boards, sites, etc and so many want Danny out yet this guy continues to make it through. What the hell? I hope it all catches up with him tomorrow. Kris was awful tonight but it would serve Danny right for trying to turn a duet into a one sided competition.
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Kenny
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Next week is Top 3, right?

That means they'll be doing their hometown visits this weekend.

Damn. This is coming to an end rather quickly.
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Is Adam Lambert gay or is it just an act?
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PhoenixRising05
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I know, Kenny.

It always seems to go by fast once you hit top 12 because things get really interesting.

It's sad but it also means summer and warmer weather, which I love LOL.

I'm guessing the reason why we have Paula singing tomorrow on top of Daughtry and No Doubt is because there will be very little time next week. They already announced several weeks ago that Jordin Sparks would be performing next week and the hometown visits will take time. Plus, they usually have each one of the top 3 perform on the results show too so there won't be much time for much filler next week and there would be no time for Paula so they decided to fit her in tomorrow.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, May 5 2009, 11:15 PM.
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MTSRocks
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Thank God it's nearing the end. I'm tired of hearing Idol blazing from the upstairs television set!
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May 5 2009, 10:54 PM
I didn't notice him singing the wrong lyrics, even after watching it back. Wow...I still remember Archie doing that last year too although he was nowhere near the smugness of Danny.
Yeah, he definitely sang the wrong lyrics. It wouldn't have been so noticeable if he hadn't already hijacked the song to drown Kris out. Some may argue that Danny simply "outsang" Kris, but I don't see it that way at all. Kris could've shouted right back and turned the entire thing into a giant upstaging shout-fest, but he didn't. I mean, the duet actually sounded decent in the beginning when they were working together vocally, but the moment Danny took the song and ran with it, everything went to hell.

I wish I could slap him. I feel like he doesn't take the competition seriously. I think he sees it as a chance to have fun, goof around and live in a mansion with cameras. Nothing more.
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^Absolutely.

When they sang together, it worked. The rest was a mess and I love how Simon says Danny was better. That isn't hard when he completely tries to dominate the song LOL. In doing that, he was screaming so it just makes Simon look worse. He already looked foolish because he was joking around while trying to give commentary on that duet to begin with.

I just want to point out I thought Slash was not a bad mentor and I like how we have gone back to going right down the row with the judge's commentary the past few weeks. It should always be that way to avoid confusion and it tends to move faster like that. Randy, Kara, Paula, and Simon...that is the order and they need to stick with it. I also like that the judge's/Ryan banter and the screwing around between Paula and Simon has been kept to a minimum. It's helped the pacing and focus of the show alot.
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May 5 2009, 11:13 PM
Is Adam Lambert gay or is it just an act?
http://www.votefortheworst.com/20090301/adam_lambert_likes_take_pictures_himself_making_out_some_dude
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Kenny
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Oh, I just read on TMZ that the stage manager fell because she was walking down the giant staircase and it retracted too soon. Apparently the exploding globe was a separate incident altogether, LoL. Sounds like the rehearsal was a complete mess.

The stage manager is said to have a pretty big gash on her leg.
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^Wow...I knew that giant staircase was a bad idea. I'm shocked Ryan hasn't fallen yet. I think they were inspired by the giant staircase at the Nokia Theater last year in the finale. Frankly, I'm shocked no one fell on that.

It does sound like a mess. I wonder if there was one major thing that happened that caused both the staircase incident and the globe exploding. I would think there would have to be. It's too random, otherwise.

On another note, I just wanted to say that Kara looked amazing tonight. She totally had a rock thing going on with her look.
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