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American Idol Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 6 2009, 04:55 PM (64,992 Views)
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PhoenixRising05
May 13 2009, 09:33 PM
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May 13 2009, 09:28 PM
Next week will be interesting. I know some might be thinking that Adam has this in the bag. Every year for the World Series or Superbowl it isn't always the best team all season that wins but the one that is hitting their peak at the right moment. Kris could be peaking at the right moment and could pull a surprise upset. And maybe I am being bias, but I know there are others getting bored with Adam. While his performances are entertaining and get your attention, they are starting to get repetitive.

I won't be horribly upset of Adam wins next week (like I would have been if Archuleta won last year), but I would love to see Kris win for a couple of reasons. 1) It would show that we are all not fooled by all the pimping and actually have our own opinions 3) Can't help but root for the dark horse 3) Seeing the judges faces would be priceless
I agree completely. Good post.

I also agree with you, daysfan. This was one of the best results nights outside of the finale ever. Talk about edge of your seat. I can only imagine what next week will be like. Like last year, I will be here Tuesday to post and all but I will be on vacation starting next Wednesday so I won't be here but I will be watching elsewhere on pins and needles LOL. I will just have to post my thoughts when I get back but I can't wait. Tonight saved the season for me.
Well dangit Tim.......am I gonna be stuck here all by my lonesome with Kenny, cubs, Angie, then maybe some others then(not that thats a BAD thing)???? :P :P :P
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LMAO Kenny! I totally agree. I love Sucks.

Katy Perry is horrible live. Wow. I like her songs, mostly, but damn, she's terrible live and she looked COKED OUT.

Jordin looked great. She was working it big time.
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daysfan
May 13 2009, 10:02 PM
PhoenixRising05
May 13 2009, 09:33 PM
cubsgirl
May 13 2009, 09:28 PM
Next week will be interesting. I know some might be thinking that Adam has this in the bag. Every year for the World Series or Superbowl it isn't always the best team all season that wins but the one that is hitting their peak at the right moment. Kris could be peaking at the right moment and could pull a surprise upset. And maybe I am being bias, but I know there are others getting bored with Adam. While his performances are entertaining and get your attention, they are starting to get repetitive.

I won't be horribly upset of Adam wins next week (like I would have been if Archuleta won last year), but I would love to see Kris win for a couple of reasons. 1) It would show that we are all not fooled by all the pimping and actually have our own opinions 3) Can't help but root for the dark horse 3) Seeing the judges faces would be priceless
I agree completely. Good post.

I also agree with you, daysfan. This was one of the best results nights outside of the finale ever. Talk about edge of your seat. I can only imagine what next week will be like. Like last year, I will be here Tuesday to post and all but I will be on vacation starting next Wednesday so I won't be here but I will be watching elsewhere on pins and needles LOL. I will just have to post my thoughts when I get back but I can't wait. Tonight saved the season for me.
Well dangit Tim.......am I gonna be stuck here all by my lonesome with Kenny, cubs, Angie, then maybe some others then(not that thats a BAD thing)???? :P :P :P
I'll be here Tuesday night for the performance show so I will post that night. Probably not live but I will post afterward since I have so much to do that night LOL. I'm leaving Wednesday morning but no worries. I will be sure to make a long post detailing my thoughts on who won and all when I return :laugh: .

Oh, and Katy Perry did suck LOL. I like the song but wow... :laugh: .

I just noticed that Kara and Randy gave each other a high five right before the Danny goodbye montage. I still think they both were ok with Kris and even liked him being in. Afterall, they did have him for the judge's pick. Paula and Simon were the ones so open about a Danny/Adam finale and acted like it was all but certain and they were the two that looked the most shocked and like they just ate crow LOL.
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Kenny
May 13 2009, 10:01 PM
PhoenixRising05
May 13 2009, 09:58 PM
Never been to Survivor Sucks...
They're the most cruel, hateful, distasteful board on the internet and I absolutely adore it! LoL.
Good to know. That doesn't sound like my kind of scene LOL.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, May 13 2009, 10:12 PM.
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Hell, even Ausiello from EW on Twitter is saying Idol voters get it right. Man! Danny has a LOT more haters than I thought, LoL! Where the hell were they last week? I would of adored an Allison/Kris/Adam finale. Although it was much more satisfying seeing Danny go right now.
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And is it me, but NONE of this seasons eliminated contestants looked even remotely happy to be there, LoL! At least Alexis and to some extent Megan were clapping. Anoop looked just downright pissed.
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May 13 2009, 10:16 PM
Hell, even Ausiello from EW on Twitter is saying Idol voters get it right. Man! Danny has a LOT more haters than I thought, LoL! Where the hell were they last week? I would of adored an Allison/Kris/Adam finale. Although it was much more satisfying seeing Danny go right now.
I think the haters showed up but Alison's fans didn't. Her fans were always so up and down. I think they got the sense she was safe after her duet with Adam and after Danny and Kris both struggled. Her fans only seemed to respond when they knew she was in trouble and that is what really did her in. It was a bit more satisfying seeing Danny get so close and cut but I did miss Alison and wonder what would've happened if she were there. She probably would've went home because her fanbase is so up and down. he's right though. The voters got it right. For all the complaining I've done about the way the public votes at times, most of the time you end up with at least one person in the final that should be there. Considering the 3 choices we had tonight, this week the voters got it completely right.

Another thing...DialIdol seems to have regained it's mojo. It had Alison going last week and Danny this week. I know they didn't really make a prediction but the placement was right on. It never seems to get any wrong at this time of year, with the exception of Melinda two years ago. It always seems to predict the winner, probably because it's only two people left to vote for LOL so we should know who the winner is in advance next week.

I just read that most of the Danny fans on the official American Idol forums on their web site are saying they will vote for Kris so there you go. I'm thinking this will be a tight race next week.

However, I also read that American Idol has had people working for weeks on Adam's marketing for when he wins Idol so they are awful sure of themselves. Then again, most of them seemed sure about Danny making it too LOL.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, May 13 2009, 10:27 PM.
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May 13 2009, 10:19 PM
And is it me, but NONE of this seasons eliminated contestants looked even remotely happy to be there, LoL! At least Alexis and to some extent Megan were clapping. Anoop looked just downright pissed.
I noticed that too. Matt looked a bit upset when Danny got cut but they seemed to like each other anyway. Alexis was the only one who seemed ok being there but I guess she wasn't around long enough to hate anyone or to say she was sick of the place so that may be LOL. Alexis was clapping for everyone and I did see Alison doing the same but that is no surprise as she was the only one who seemed to get along with everyone. Megan probably hated being back after the way she left and all the heat she took for it.

I'm guessing they all were there because they have to start getting ready for next week and have to rehearse. I don't remember ever seeing the other Idols in the audience on top 3 results night but they are always there when the top two perform and obviously on the finale.
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I was beyond happy that Danny was eliminated!!! I really wanna see Kris win the whole thing. I think Adam is sooooooo overrated. He has a great voice and all, but he definitely tries to project too much sometimes and it comes off slightly "shrieky".
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According to People.com, Adan and Kris did a coin toss immediately after the broadcast to determine the order of performances in next week's finale. Kris won the coin toss -- he'll be singing second. Adam will be singing first.

Finally, no more pimp spot for Adam! He's already gotten it five times this season. I think that's more than anyone else in the history of the show.
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Kenny
May 13 2009, 10:53 PM
According to People.com, Adan and Kris did a coin toss immediately after the broadcast to determine the order of performances in next week's finale. Kris won the coin toss -- he'll be singing second.

Finally he gets the pimp spot!
I was looking everywhere for this because I know they do it right after the show and usually it leaks out to someone.

Wow...so the one week you would expect Adam to be last he isn't. That breaks his string of 3 straight weeks, if you count the duet with Alison. Kris finally gets the pimp spot for the first time since, I believe, the top 8 week. Good for him. It really doesn't matter what spot you go in since David Cook and Ruben Studdard both won going first and we've all seen that going last doesn't necessarily help this year but most winners of the show did perform last and I think it will help Kris because at least he doesn't have to worry about Adam overshadowing him, especially on the last performance, so I think this is another point in his favor.

I hope they show the coin toss next week at some point. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. I like to see it. I still remember the year with Carrie and Bo when Seacrest dropped the damn coin down a vent LOL. Hysterical!
Edited by PhoenixRising05, May 13 2009, 10:59 PM.
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I'm beyond happy with the outcome tonight. Now, I agree, Danny beats them both with his singing, but he really did himself in by his appearance. He needed to hire me as his manager. He'd look great cleaned up and spiffed a little without losing his homey look. Too bad.

To me, Adam is a sure fire winner but with 88 million votes for tonight and only 1 million between the top two, whew. That's just too close for comfort and if Danny's fans do vote for Kris (and I suspect they definitely will) Kris may win no matter how well or awful he does next week. Boohoo, I love Adam most as a performer.

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May 13 2009, 11:12 PM
I'm beyond happy with the outcome tonight. Now, I agree, Danny beats them both with his singing, but he really did himself in by his appearance. He needed to hire me as his manager. He'd look great cleaned up and spiffed a little without losing his homey look. Too bad.

To me, Adam is a sure fire winner but with 88 million votes for tonight and only 1 million between the top two, whew. That's just too close for comfort and if Danny's fans do vote for Kris (and I suspect they definitely will) Kris may win no matter how well or awful he does next week. Boohoo, I love Adam most as a performer.

Danny's appearance was far from being the reason people disliked him LOL. It was the attitude and the way he came off more then anything. The pimping and his bad performances also didn't help, especially the way he performed last week.

Anyway, your right. That margin is already tight and Kris will already close the gap by alot if most of Danny's fans shift to him.

One other point...are we even sure that Kris was second and not #1? He could've been considering his text support. Adam had been in the bottom 3 before so he could've dropped off again in voting. Who knows.

It bugged me that Ryan said Danny was never in the bottom 3. That should come with a disclaimer attached that says "Danny has never been in the bottom 3...THAT YOU ALL KNOW OF." Last week, they didn't reveal the bottom 2 or 3 and they presented everyone in random order. That is the same shit they pulled with Archuleta in the top 4 week as well just so they could say he had never been in the bottom 3. I still think he was and I figure Danny was too coming off how he performed last week so Ryan saying that crap annoyed me just as much as it did last year with Archuleta.
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If Kris does win like you all are suggesting(and while I do still wonder WHO Danny's fans would turn to), I would be okay with that, but it would be stunning. Ever since I started watching again, I thought Adam really had it locked up....Danny, Kris, Alison....NO ONE had a chance of beating him.

But then, things changed a bit with Alison's elimination and the Danny craziness, I feel. So now, there is a possibility that Kris could win.....I'm not sure what I think, I still believe Adam has a very good chance though....wow, this shall be intense!

But, regardless, something else I wonder for afterwards is who will be more successful: Kris or Adam...everyone, even people who were only in the Top 12, have at least had a moderate or more than moderate career after Idol(Jennifer Hudson and Daughtry come to mind), but its always interesting to see if the runner up actually exceeds the winner in popularity later on, or who can actually MAKE a career after Idol.
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This Danny fan is turning to Adam!
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May 13 2009, 11:56 PM
If Kris does win like you all are suggesting(and while I do still wonder WHO Danny's fans would turn to), I would be okay with that, but it would be stunning. Ever since I started watching again, I thought Adam really had it locked up....Danny, Kris, Alison....NO ONE had a chance of beating him.

But then, things changed a bit with Alison's elimination and the Danny craziness, I feel. So now, there is a possibility that Kris could win.....I'm not sure what I think, I still believe Adam has a very good chance though....wow, this shall be intense!

But, regardless, something else I wonder for afterwards is who will be more successful: Kris or Adam...everyone, even people who were only in the Top 12, have at least had a moderate or more than moderate career after Idol(Jennifer Hudson and Daughtry come to mind), but its always interesting to see if the runner up actually exceeds the winner in popularity later on, or who can actually MAKE a career after Idol.
As I've been saying, Adam will likely have the most successful career early on but if he doesn't find a way to top himself and keep his music new and fresh and relevant...then he will fall off right after the first album and tour because the appeal and "newness' will have worn off.

Kris has a chance at moderate success early on but he will have staying power because of his style and originality so you could say he won't run the risk of fading out like Adam may if he doesn't do things right. It all depends really on if they get the right promotion and get the right people working with them. They both will need to be allowed some input and if they are allowed to play to their strengths and what works, they both should be fine, at least initially. If what I read is correct, Idol seems to already be planning for Adam to win by setting up how they will market him but I think we've learned (and I hope they did too after tonight) that you can't make assumptions so they should really wait until after next week to make sure Adam actually wins first LOL.
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May 14 2009, 12:07 AM
This Danny fan is turning to Adam!
Wow....I'm shocked. :OhMy:

I expected you to go for Kris after you praised him and Danny's duet last week. I you went for anyone once Danny left, I expected it to be Kris.
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No, Adam is clearly more deserving than Kris. Kris has done the same performance every week.
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^Well, I don't agree with that. I can see how one would say he is boring but Kris has done far from the same thing every week. He's taken all kinds of songs and made them his own. What he did to "Heartless" last night is a good example. He completely changed that song, just like he did with "Ain't No Sunshine" earlier this season and many other songs. Plus, sometimes he uses the guitar and sometimes the piano and sometimes neither. He's always doing something different.

I think both are deserving because both have shown originality and talent. They have have musical identities and stick to them. That is why this is the perfect finale in a way. They were looking for artists and they got them, no matter who wins. It's funny because when Jaime Fox was on two weeks ago he really praised Kris and said he wanted to do an album with him. Adam has gotten all sorts of praise from celebrities and all sorts of musicians too but Gokey never got that so it seems you really are down to the two best, potential winners.
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May 14 2009, 12:30 AM
No, Adam is clearly more deserving than Kris. Kris has done the same performance every week.
I don't think he has. He's switched stuff up. He's used the piano, he's used the guitar and he's sang without any instrument in his hands at all. He's played with the melodies. He's done fast songs, he's done borderline rap songs, he's done slow songs, love songs. He might not have the strongest voice, but power vocals don't always equal a great artist. Singing loud doesn't always equal singing good. Just look at Jason Mraz. Not the strongest voice, but he's an artist. He's quirky. Same goes for John Mayer.

What has Glambert done, aside from shriek and shriek and shriek some more? If anyone this season has relied on the same trick over and over, it's him. He's not eclectic at all. He's a one trick pony with one style and one style only. Mind you, it's a theatrical glam rock style that will never get radio play, LoL.
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