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American Idol Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 6 2009, 04:55 PM (64,989 Views)
PhoenixRising05
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Kenny
May 14 2009, 02:21 AM
PhoenixRising05
May 14 2009, 02:17 AM
Katherine was so weird. She always went theatrical with her performances and always went for some over the top, glory note thing and it made her come off awful because she would ruin songs doing that. She would take so many unnecessary risks with the melody. I liked her in season 5 because she had the talent when she just focused on the singing and not trying to give us some splashy performance. She didn't understand that sometimes less is more.
Wow. Pretty much everything you said about Katharine McPhee can also be said about Adam Lambert, LoL.

"Adam was so weird. He always went theatrical with his performances and always went for some over the top, glory note thing and it made him come off awful because he would ruin songs doing that. He didn't understand that sometimes less is more."
Not really, at least not IMO.

And I knew you would say that too. It works for Adam because his voice works with it. The theatrical style of his performances suit his voice. That is who he is. Katherine may have a theater background but she is a pop singer and her being over the top on every performance strays from who she is. Paula made a great point that season when Katherine sang "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" and her one and only big moment on Idol. She just sang the song and let her voice soar. She was being herself and who she should be. That is what Adam does every week. Anything else wouldn't be Adam. Just like anything else wouldn't be Kris or Alison or whomever.
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May 14 2009, 02:27 AM
So apparently people heard Danny Gokey call Adam Lambert a faggot tonight when he was eliminated. It's 3 seconds into this video. I can hear something that sounds similar, but I doubt he actually said it.

It does sound like it could be him saying that but I doubt it too, especially since Adam is smiling.

I don't think he would say something like that with his mic on either.

On another note, I just read that Danny Gokey lost in his own home state of Wisconsin in the voting. After all those people who came out for the homecoming, I'm stunned LOL. It also seems Adam lost his home state of California too but that doesn't surprise me considering Kris always seems to do well on the west coast. Still, that sucks when you lose your home state in any sort of election or voting LOL.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, May 14 2009, 02:37 AM.
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Rick
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Too lazy to read through 20 pages to see if this was already posted LOL



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Sy, one of the AI backup singers, twittered this little interesting tidbit last night:

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In short, the backstory to what Simon said to Kara. I was told that all the
judges were given the opp to work w/ each kid…

…they were told the time slot for each kid’s rhrsl. They could come &
advise the contestant on how 2 get the most of their song.

But on rhrsl day, only one judge actually showed up and did that… guess
which one.”


Yep, only Simon actually showed up. Paula was drunk, so she has an excuse. And Randy's opinion means nothing. But Kara not showing up shows how irrelevant she actually is.

Edited by Rick, May 14 2009, 03:02 AM.
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So I couldn't wait to come home from work and watch Idol, so I found out who was eliminated.

Yay for Kris, boo for Adam staying.

And someone said that we, who asked for pissed judges, got what we wanted. Actually, no! I was the true golden child out to see them REALLY pissed! :D I want it all! Like Kenny said, I want the producers and the judges to be totally pissed upon by the fans! :D And sure, I love Kris, so I want him to win as well... :D

Can't wait to see their reactions to Danny's elimination though..

And I don't think Kris will get as many Danny voters as you think, guys. I've been around some boards and Danny fans are PISSED that Kris made it and Danny didn't.
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I'm beyond ecstatic that Kris made it to the final 2...While Danny might have a better voice than Kris, i feel that Kris is much more talented than Danny..And has the potential to be more of a breakout artist..I'm crossing my fingers that Kris wins..

And i'm sorry King, Kris is anything but boring...Watch his performance of Ain't No Sunshine...The guy is incredible and sexy as hell..
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I agree with Kev... :D
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Boy I decided to go to bed last night and missed all the talk. LOL

Glad Kris won the coin toss. Although I kept thinking that I kept thinking that they could manipulate the coin toss. I think it is going to be a tough to come after Adam because like him or hate him his performances are always so big that they are hard to forget. But in the end Kris will get the final say with his performances so that is good. What I do hope is when they come to the song where you can either sing a new song or something you have already done, Kris does something different. But if he does a repeat, sing Renegade on his own. Sing it without having to outsing the other guy in the duet.

Like Kenny I am tired of the judges basically telling me what I should like. They do it every season, but this has been the worse ever. I think with Cook last year it didn't bother me one because I liked him. But also there were weeks where they said he wasn't that good. Simon didn't even really like him until after "Hello" and still he gave David negative feedback. I still can't believe they all though Adam's performance of "Black or White" was that great.

After this show I still don't know how marketable Adam is. He still comes off as 80's big hair band to me. Kris seems more current. I don't know if either is really for that younger market people always want for their purchasing power of disposible income. And I don't think either one of them will be huge like Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry. But I do think both are going to find more success beyond Idol.

Adam just earn his ticket to Broadway and I see him having a TON of success there. Kris I could see eventually even moving behind the scenes with music. I would be curious how he is at writing music because he seems to do well with arranging it. He could end up being like a Richard Marx. Richard Marx had huge success in the 80's and since has been behind the scenes mostly writing and working on songs for others.

What we have are two very different artists with different styles. I hate that Simon is basically writing off the finale. I don't think Adam is. It does make it hard to see that Adam appears to be sincere with all the pimping behind him. I do know it isn't all under his control. I think Tuesday is going to be an interesting night and I am really looking forward to it. Some might see it a failure if Kris wins, but I think it will be too early to say. It will be a failure in terms of all the pimping and the Chosen Ones didn't win. But I don't think it could ever be a level of failure that Season 5 ended up with. Kris winning is one of those stories they make movies about.

Hope we get some leaks to what they guys will be singing on Tuesday.
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I fully expect it to be like this:

Adam sings..

Judges (getting out of their chairs, all excited and thrilled): Amazing. You are a God! We love you! America loves you! You are the American Idol! Nobody can top that..

Kris sings...

Judges (sitting, talking with sympathy like he is on his deathbed): You should be proud to be here. You needed to take more risks like Adam. For me for you, I wouldn't have picked that song... But really, you should be proud to have make it this far...

Edited by Manny, May 14 2009, 06:51 AM.
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Just have to throw my two cents in.....


SO happy that Kris made it to the final 2! Adam will win, but thank God Gokey is gone and Kris is #2!
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My thoughts regarding last night:

1- I am ecstatic that Kris is on the Top 2! I think he may actually give Adam a run for his money.
2- I loved watching Kara's jaw literally drop as she saw Danny being eliminated! Or was it after they called out Kris' name as being in the Top 2? Can't remember but it doesn't matter. Take that and stuff it in your oversized trap, BITCH!
3- Jordin is gorgeous!
4- Katy Perry is another bitch for wearing her little "Adam Lambert" cape. I have nothing against the guy (except for his shrieking) but fair is fair. I won't get into how horrible her performance was.
5- Paula crying for Danny was just plain nauseating.


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The finale should have had Allison in it, but Kris/adam is the next best thing
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Wait, Katy Perry wore an Adam shirt? BITCH! Hate her now...
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Manny
May 14 2009, 12:15 PM
Wait, Katy Perry wore an Adam shirt? BITCH! Hate her now...
I read somewhere that Adam knows Katy Perry.
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I just watched an FFed version of results. Well, I want it now more than ever! This shocked of Danny's elimination on judges faces just wasn't enough. I want more. I want Adam gone and Kris to win. Damn, I will try to vote on Tuesday night!
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The best part about the whole thing is Kris earned his spot in the final two. His fans and his talent got him there. Kris was the underdog and made it, props to him.

And the second best thing is, the judges didn't get what they've wanted. No Danny/Adam final two, it is a major F.U. I think Kris can win next week. There is a lot of anger this season because of what the judges did with Danny/Adam and I know as an Allison fan I was not happy two weeks ago.

If Kris does win Idol, I would suggest everyone prepares for mass chaos. I've purchased plenty of canned food and water. It will probably be one of the ugliest fan reactions to the finale we've ever seen. Maybe worse than Clay/Ruben.

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Aww, how sweet is this?

Did you notice Kris had his thumbnail repainted? Can you guess who painted it? That's right! Adam Lambert! Kris performed during Rock week with a painted thumbnail, and his homecoming footage captured the chipped polish. Tuesday night, however, Kris performed one of the best performances of the night with a freshly painted thumbnail.

According to Megan Malone, Adam painted Kris's thumbnail after the homecoming visits and removed the polish from one of his own nails, stating "If you can carry around a piece of me, man; I can do the same for you." Malone said, "The Allens believe Kris wears the black fingernail polish in support of Adam because he wanted Adam in the finale. Also, Kris wanted to dispel any rumors claiming the two weren’t great friends." Kris and Adam were roommates in the Idol Mansion throughout their stay.
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^^I remember seeing Kris's nail in some of the homecoming footage as I was watching it last night and was wondering. But I also saw that it didn't seem like the rumors were true and these two guys actually got along pretty well. There was just something in the way the two of them interacted last night.
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Awww that's sweet --- I really hope there is no feud. I like them both.
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How nice! I noticed the polish in some of the homecoming videos too.
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May 14 2009, 03:01 AM
Too lazy to read through 20 pages to see if this was already posted LOL



votefortheworst.com

Sy, one of the AI backup singers, twittered this little interesting tidbit last night:

Quote:
 
In short, the backstory to what Simon said to Kara. I was told that all the
judges were given the opp to work w/ each kid…

…they were told the time slot for each kid’s rhrsl. They could come &
advise the contestant on how 2 get the most of their song.

But on rhrsl day, only one judge actually showed up and did that… guess
which one.”


Yep, only Simon actually showed up. Paula was drunk, so she has an excuse. And Randy's opinion means nothing. But Kara not showing up shows how irrelevant she actually is.

Kara and Randy were awfully shocked when Simon made the point that they coudl've helped Kris. True, they could've been faking their shock to cover up the fact that they didn't do it (perhaps to hurt Kris) but I doubt it. Randy would not be left in the dark on something like that and they wouldn't make the sabotage quite so obvious. They both looked genuinely surprised that they could help.

There is more to it then that. Either that or they were not clear on what they could do. Either way, I don't think they knew for sure they could do that and, knowing Simon, he would not take the time to point that out either.
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