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American Idol Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 6 2009, 04:55 PM (65,107 Views)
aimees76
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King
Feb 18 2009, 05:57 PM
I liked Ann Marie, but the judges didn't...shock.

I find it odd they are talking about "who you are as an artist." Considering 24 people will go back to their normal lives and never be an artist......right now, I think they should just prove they can conquer the nerves and sing well.


When it gets down to the final 12, they can distinguish themselves as artists.
I liked Ann Marie, too. She was pretty much the only girl who I thought did a really good job. Of course, I missed the beginning, so I didn't see a few performances. So far I really like Anoop, Danny, and Michael. I missed Ricky (?) Braddy, so I don't know about him ....



I also thought the "who you are as an artist" was weird for this early.
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Feb 18 2009, 06:06 PM
I missed Ricky (?) Braddy, so I don't know about him ....
Here's a video of his performance last night. I thought he was awesome! He sounded a little nervous and shaky in certain parts, but I love the tone and strength of his vocals.

http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j141/mjsbigblog/Semis-wk1/?action=view&current=ricky_w1.flv
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I think the best girl of the night was Tatianna. Best guy was Gokey.

Sarver was probably my fav after that. Or Anoop!
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Feb 18 2009, 06:20 PM
I think the best girl of the night was Tatianna. Best guy was Gokey.

Sarver was probably my fav after that. Or Anoop!
The guys are definitely ruling this season, IMO. They would've been even better if the judges hadn't cut Jamar Rogers in Hollywood -- my jaw dropped when I heard he wasn't going through.

They have some really good guys performing again next week, as well. The girls just BLOW though!
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Yeah, if the first 12 are any representation of the next 24...I could totally see that.
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Feb 18 2009, 06:14 PM
aimees76
Feb 18 2009, 06:06 PM
I missed Ricky (?) Braddy, so I don't know about him ....
Here's a video of his performance last night. I thought he was awesome! He sounded a little nervous and shaky in certain parts, but I love the tone and strength of his vocals.

http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j141/mjsbigblog/Semis-wk1/?action=view&current=ricky_w1.flv
Oh yeah, he is really good. Thanks for posting that!


I kinda don't understand why they have to keep it even, I mean, if there are more really good guys than girls ( or vice versa) they should just have the best people on instead of sending some away because they have to keep it even. :shrug:
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OMG, pass the crackers for this giant cheeseball! LoL

I hate when they do these group performances. Everyone always ends up looking and sounding so uncomfortable.
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I love the group performances!

AI isn't on until 9:00 here (basketball is on).
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Damn! Alexis has soul
Edited by Rick, Feb 18 2009, 08:31 PM.
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So glad Michael made it. He is so friggin hot! Kinda looks like Brody from OLTL
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I will give my weekly rundown later but just wanted to say I'm pleased with the results. Micheal played it safe last night IMO but he deserved to get through. Alexis is great IMO. I didn't get the Kelly comparison either but whatever. She was still good and deserved that spot.

We all know David is going through so I am shocked they left him for the end. Micheal/Anoop should've been last for suspense. I think they will bring Ricky and Anoop back as wild cards and perhaps Tatiana too if they feel so inclined.
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I hate Alexis Grace. She's phony. She throws a pink streak into hair and thinks she's edgy. LoL, and she's not even a good singer, IMO. Then there's Michael Sarver, who's just a big dork. Oh well. Somebody's gotta take 12th Place -- might as well be him, LoL. I can't believe he made it over Anoop Desai and Ricky Braddy! Both of those guys are infinitely better.

This sucks because there's no way both Anoop and Ricky will be chosen for Wild Card. Either way, someone extremely talented will be shown the door way too soon.

Danny Gokey will be the only salvation of the night.
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Danny Gokey made it through.

Big shock. Not. LoL. He could've showed a little humility though. That little "woo!" pissed me off. You're supposed to hug first and cheer for yourself after. He was kind of douche-y.

More dead wife pimping from some dude in the audience. I'm starting to find it tacky at this point.
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See, I don't see what is so phony about her. The judges told her to change her look and she probably would have fallen out of favor with them if she didn't. I don't think she's changed who she is at all. She's still the same singer and the same person, talking about her daughter and missing her.

I like having people like her and Micheal in there. They have children and I feel I can relate to them because they are normal people with normal problems. They want a better life but don't shove how bad things are in your face. They are just normal people with families and it's so nice to have people like them because I think they have major rooting value. Their likability, I think, is what helped both of them get through in addition to Alexis being great last night and Micheal being ok enough. Micheal is just so damn polite and so nice that it's hard not to like them. I think it helps me invest in the show a bit more people who are like the average person living on your block in there. I know that sounds corny but the last few years I've found it hard to relate to anyone but these are two I feel I can.

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I see your point, Phoenix. But this isn't "American Gentleman." It's a singing competition, LoL. Michael Sarver doesn't have even half the vocal talent or star quality that Anoop Desai and Ricky Braddy do, IMO.

As for Alexis, I just don't like her. I can't put my finger on it, but something about her really rubs me the wrong way, LoL. Also, I recently read a story about Danny Gokey that kind of soured me on him as well. Apparently he JUST set up some sort of charity fund to honor his wife, but all the funds will be filtered through his church which apparently has a history of some pretty cult-ish behavior and mishandling of charity funds. That's why the dead wife pimping is starting to annoy me. It feels very calculated and exploitative at this point.
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LOL I am just watching the results on FF because I hate these result shows. I stopped to watch the clip of David Cook and Carrie Underwood singing at the American Idol exhibit. Then Ryan goes let's bring up the next two contestants down. All of a sudden two people walk on stage and I see the guy and for a second I think "Who is this guy? I don't remember him." LOL that it was Michael Johns and Carly Smithson.

Not surprised at the results at all. Think Anoop and Ricky will be back for the wild card show. Have to agree with Kenny about Danny's response...I didn't care for it. He has to know at least a little bit with the hype surrounding him and had to feel a bit comfortable that he was getting through.
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Feb 18 2009, 09:13 PM
Also, I recently read a story about Danny Gokey that kind of soured me on him as well. Apparently he JUST set up some sort of charity fund to honor his wife, but all the funds will be filtered through his church which apparently has a history of some pretty cult-ish behavior and mishandling of charity funds. That's why the dead wife pimping is starting to annoy me. It feels very calculated and exploitative at this point.
Again Kenny I have to agree with you. Something just tells me by the end of the season he is going to be annoying. There is just something too "Archuletta" about him that is just going to get to a point that is going to bother a lot of people.
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I just thought it was rude the way he didn't even bother trying to console Tatiana before letting out a big "wooo!" and cheering for himself. Very douchebaggy.
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Feb 18 2009, 09:13 PM
I see your point, Phoenix. But this isn't "American Gentleman." It's a singing competition, LoL. Michael Sarver doesn't have even half the vocal talent or star quality that Anoop Desai and Ricky Braddy do, IMO.

As for Alexis, I just don't like her. I can't put my finger on it, but something about her really rubs me the wrong way, LoL. Also, I recently read a story about Danny Gokey that kind of soured me on him as well. Apparently he JUST set up some sort of charity fund to honor his wife, but all the funds will be filtered through his church which apparently has a history of some pretty cult-ish behavior and mishandling of charity funds. That's why the dead wife pimping is starting to annoy me. It feels very calculated and exploitative at this point.
Oh, I see what your saying too, except I don't see that with Anoop at all. Ricky needs to make some adjustments and then maybe I can see it but Anoop just seems way too generic for me. There is just nothing special about him. Maybe he will prove me wrong but I don't see him going far at all unless he taps into some of the Slumdog popularity or something.

I know Micheal is a long shot but I like his voice and I don't think we've seen enough of him and his voice to know if he can win or not. I think that is the case with alot of these contestants. Just look at Jordin Sparks. There weren't many people that gave her a chance until the top 12. It's hard to tell right now with some of these contestants but I think, so far, the top 12 has been selected right. Hopefully, they will bring Anoop and Ricky back as wild cards. I can see that happening as the judges seem to like them.

I also have to agree about Danny too. As you said, some of the things coming out are disturbing and his reaction tonight was horribly disrespectful. I will save the rest of my rant for my long ass post LOL.
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Ok...here is my weekly "let's annoy everyone with the length of this post" rundown LOL.

Overall, the performance show sucked. Just a few things to get out of the way before getting to the performances"

-Someone needs to tell Ryan to remember he is on live TV. Dumbass. When the tape for Brent Keith got all screwed up, he just kept talking and ignored the producers. Stupid. I guess we know now how much they cared enough about contestants like Brent and Stevie LOL.

-The 4 judges worked ok last night except Paula needs to spend last time dancing and more time thinking about what she is going to say because she takes up way too much time. You can tell she is thinking as she talks. I thought she said she took notes during the performances? I remember her saying that when people got on her case about acting drunk during the show. If she does, could've fooled me. Randy, Kara,. and Simon made some good points and there she is with comments veering all over the place. That and she tends to repeat the same stuff Randy and Kara says, only in a less clear manner. I thought the other 3 did well though.

-I see they went back to the families being in the contestant waiting area. They seem to be going back to the early seasons alot for ideas. I like it. Some contestants take things awful hard so it will help with their parents there. Plus, it allows for some tension. We didn't get it last night (although Ryan tried with some parents) but I hope some of the parents take aim at Simon or the judges. That makes it interesting. My only issue is time constraints. I already feel they aren't balancing filler and singing well and with the 4 judges, families being there, and all the filler...I just wonder how much performance we will get. That is a concern of mine.

-I like this format because it's quick and easy. The boy/girl thing was alright but it made for some boring ass weeks. Yes, last night was bad but that was one night and it made for a results show with less filler. Plus, it puts more emphasis on being good and not going out there with a lackluster effort because you feel you will be ok. On the other hand, some may choose to play it safe out of fear of taking a risk so it's sort of a double-edged sword but I do like this because it "trims the fat" so to speak quickly. That and it seems to me the show is trying to make sure the right people go through and that we steer clear of the "Sanjayas" of the world going far. That is why I have a feeling the top 12 surprise will be them actually eliminating someone. That way if someone who doesn't belong gets through, they can cut them.

Now, on to the contestants:

Jackie: She must have raided Olivia Newton John's closet for that look. Awful. I did like her saying she borrowed it from Randy LOL. She is a true entertainer and I appreciate her stage presence, except the dancing was awful. However, it says alot that I talk about everything but her singing, which sucked. I've found her annoying since the beginning so I'm glad she left.

Ricky: So this is the guy Paula has been talking about all over the place. I see he was another victim of Idol's editing team. It's a shame because the guy has a good voice but he didn't have a shot in hell. No screentime and being second? Ouch. You can tell Idol doesn't want him around and I guess I can see why. Simon made a good point. The guy's about as boring as dishwater. He seems nice but there is no spark. He has a good voice but on stage he just seems so dull and I feel nothing from him. With that said, I hope he does get the wild card so he can have a shot at making some adjustments and earning a spot. He deserves that, especially with how the show has treated him. I liked his family's 'Braddy Bunch" shirt too. They seem to have a website as well. Nice marketing. Too bad the show didn't promote him enough.

Alexis: I've already said my piece about her. I thought she was good last night. Not great but she definitely showed me she had soul and her vocals were solid enough. I actually thought she did better on the results show. I like her and I've said why. She looked uncomfortable in that dress last night though. She looked much more comfortable today in the hat and cute outfit. I didn't get the Kelly Clarkson comparison at all. All that said to me is Simon likes her, which means he sees something in her. That usually means she will go far, if not win the whole thing. The guy knows his shit.

Brent: What an egotistical jerk. First, the song choice sucked and he sounded like like he was talking loudly then singing. Second, the way he acted like he already had a place in country music was ridiculous. That was an insult to the country music industry and it's fans. He acted like they would just take anyone. Idiot. Seriously, I felt bad at the start because of the tape issues but his talking back to Simon was the kiss of death for him. That and I hate when people make a comment everytime the judges do. It's so stupid. Let them talk and then say your piece. Too bad Anoop didn't go before Brent because he did it right. The way he talked to Simon and the judges was respectful. Brent came off like a jerk and he acted like he was already guaranteed a record deal.

Seriously, what was with that last night? So many people acted like they were just auditioning for record companies and not performing to win a spot in the top 12. It annoyed me. I mean, I know the odds are stacked against you with only 3 moving on but Christ you could try to get a spot. Morons. Your not an artist until you have a record deal. As someone else said, go out and sing and perform well. Leave the other shit for top 12. Please and thank you.

Stevie: Oy. Awful. First mistake was picking a Taylor Swift song because her songs require no range at all and are so flat. I understand wanting to go younger but she went in the complete wrong direction. I do blame the judges and I am glad her and her parents mentioned it. I wish the judges would quit contradicting themselves. They want the contestants to show who they are as people and artists yet they complain whey they sound old or look a certain way or whatever. Then, when the person changes, 9 times out of 10 they hate it and say the person lost something. Well, DUH!! YOU JUST TOLD THEM TO CHANGE WHO THEY ARE!!! Morons. That is why I hate what they did to Alexis because she's not being allowed to be herself. She is letting the judges and show mold her and I wish that wouldn't happen but she has no choice. Anyway, back to Stevie. She was bad. The chorus didn't sound horrible but it was still bad.

Anoop: I'm not seeing what some are. He's ok and he does have a good voice but there is nothing special there. He's just a generic pop singer for me right now. I also hate seeing so many people pick songs with heavy background singer involvement. He wasn't the only one who didn't but still. It's hard because, as Randy said, you have to find a comfort zone and the timing has to be there. Plus, at this early stage, I want to hear the contestant, not background singers. I wish they would steer clear from that until the top 12 because at least then we have a feel for the contestant . That and the sound system sucks in the early rounds so heavy use of background vocals tends to bring the performance down as a whole anyway. I think he will get a wild card spot and I hope he proves me wrong. We'll see.

Casey: Oy. She is a gorgeous girl but she picked the wrong song. Plus, her mouth and facial expressions annoyed me during the song, along with her dancing. I just love how contestants always say they chose a song because it makes them "feel good" or "has a message" (Archie loved that line) or "it makes everyone feel good." At this point, just pick a song you can sing and perform well. I also love how she admitted it was all wrong afterwards. It's like, why couldn't you see that before you sang the song? Simon made a good point. She should've never been allowed to sing that. Sometimes I wonder if the vocal coaches advise the contestant not to sing the song and then they go and do it anyway. It doesn't make sense otherwise. I was happy Simon was nice to her and just tried to help her see the positive because she looked upset and she knew it didn't work. Same goes for Stevie. I'm glad he didn't go too harsh on them. It's a shame because she seemed like a nice girl.

Micheal: I've already explained why I like him. I can see why the judges do too. He's just a genuine nice guy people can relate to. A true blue collar family guy. I think the judges were right though. He didn't necessarily make the wrong song choice but it was too safe IMO. As Kara said, it's a proven crowd pleaser song but I wish he did a more soulful song with a country/rock type spin. Now that he has a chance, I hope to see him do that and to take more risks.

Anne Marie: I think she sang well but it was nothing special and, as Kara and Randy said, you have to kill that song if you want to sing it. Again, the judges contradicted themselves. They tell the contestants not to do songs from certain artists because the expectations are too high yet here they aren't against it and Danny took on Mariah Carey. They are all over the map with their comments, I, personally, don't think anything song is off limits. If you choose to sing it the way the artist did, you better nail it and add your own spin somewhere. If you choose to do it your own way, then I think that is great and you just need to do it well. I like Anne Marie but she just didn't stand out. She could sing though. Notice how the judges made her change her look too. Remember her audition? They made her go home and glam up to make it through and there wasn't much difference. She was beautiful no matter what. I hate that. I wish they would just let them have their own image. I did have to laugh at her when she sat down next to Ryan and said she sat on the "hard part" of the couch. Ryan's reaction was funny and he no longer wanted to talk to her and just read her number LOL.

Stephen: Let me start by saying that he shouldn't be there in the first place. I would not have given him a chance after he walked off the stage. He should've did what Brooke did and tried again. Having said that, he was ok. He didn't sound bad but definitely not a good song choice and the arrangement sucked. I agree with Paula that he should've tried singing the David Cook song that he tried to do in Hollywood again. That may have worked. I did hate Paula saying no one can do that song but Micheal. As I said, nothing is off limits. Stephen seemed nice though but he was a long shot anyway.

Tatiana: Wow..who was this girl? She was so subdued it was creepy. LMAO to Kayla reaction when she told her that she could fit into any genre of music. I was also LMAO when Simon called her a drama queen and she went on her little lecture about how she was marketing herself and how the way she was in Hollywood was not her. Excuse me? I'm confused as to who this girl is. Does she have split personalities or something? The whole marketing thing reminds me of Taylor Hicks. He did the same thing. Girl is smart though. She has people's attention and I almost want them to bring her back as a wild card because she makes things really interesting. I just don't want someone worthy to lose a slot. I was also confused by her saying the two guys with her raised her? WTF? Those guys were young. This girl is a case though. The stuff on her myspace and her complete 180 yesterday...wow. You never know where she will go next and she can sing. She wasn't that bad. She actually had good stage presence and good vocal control. I remember she sang ok in Hollywood for her solo too.

Danny: Well he certainly pulled a David Cook. Taking a Mariah Carey song and making it his own. He did great but I have to agree with Simon. It wasn't special and the end was the best part. Plus, I love how they don't get on him for tackling Mariah without going to the big glory notes. I'm already starting to dislike him though. It's starting to be like David Archuleta for me. I liked Archie in Hollywood and as soon as we hit this round, he fell out of favor with me. The only difference is Danny's background is far more tragic and he's clearly not as humble and shy. The pimpage is already on overdrive. He got the last slot and we have to be bombarded with images of his wife in every intro on him. It's sad but come on. Stop exploiting it. See, this is why I don't want to know too much about the contestants. Let's get to know them through their music and save the rest until top 12 at least. He is getting awful arrogant too IMO. You can tell he knows he's good and that he has at least a top 5 slot in the bag. That is far different then Archie.

Kenny is right. Tonight he was annoying. Did anyone catch how annoyed he was at Ryan before the commercial? The look on his face was pretty telling. He got a bit testy with Ryan after the commercial too, saying he just wanted to find out. Then the way he ignored Tatiana at first. I get she wasn't liked but come on. Have a heart. Between all that, the over the top pimping of him, the exploiting of his wife's death, his arrogance, and the stuff we are finding out about him, I'm down on him. I was just glad Simon didn't get on the bandwagon. Are we on track for another season like last where Danny is Archie and gets favored the whole way and someone else steps up to take the crown? We'll see.

The results show sucked though. I can't believe they sang "I'm Yours" for a group number, It was awful. Only Tatiana's dramatic poses during it could save it.

Nice to see Carly and Micheal again. I didn't even recognize them and that was cute having them sit with the contestants. I like them singing "The Letter" but couldn't they have sung something else? I wanted something new. They sang that on the finale last year. They both looked good and I can't wait for Micheal's album. Hopefully, Carly has one too. They both should've went farther last year.

I'm going to Orlando this May so I can't wait to try that Idol Experience thing for myself LOL. I wish we had seen the full Carrie Underwood/David Cook suet. That looked amazing!! Looked like alot of Idols, past and present were there, and having all 7 winners there had to be nice to see.

I thought Alexis and Micheal sang better tonight then last night but Danny sucked. Wow LOL. I also like how the people going through got to sing. It took them 8 years but they finally got it right LOL. Until top 12, the people going home should not sing IMO.

I was shocked that they left Danny for last because there was no suspense. Micheal/Anoop was the close vote. They should've did that last. They thought people would buy into the idea of Tatiana getting in over Danny since she is so talked about. They took the suspense right out of the last half hour by leaving Danny for last.

I did like this though. It went by fast and there was less filler. Plus, I like that they kept going back to the judges for feedback on each contestant. I was shocked they actually acknowledged who should go home. I thought Kara might as she speaks her mind, usually just in more respectful manner then Simon. I knew Simon would. I was shocked when Paula admitted one of the contestants (I can't recall which one) should go home. I'm glad. I liked the way they did it tonight, even if some of the music made it sound like a game show LOL right now to Ryan acting like a game show host.

I think the right three got through and my hope is Ricky and Anoop get another shot to show us what they have. I kind of hope Tatiana gets a shot too only because she brings drama LOL. She is the Cloris Leachman of Idol in a way, only she has a voice so you can somehow justify keeping her. I was actually expecting a much more dramatic reaction from her when she got eliminated. Oh well. We'll see what happens but I'm liking the new format so far. It must be great to be in the first group. The three that got through don't have to sing for like 3 weeks LOL.
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