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American Idol Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 6 2009, 04:55 PM (65,096 Views)
Kenny
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PhoenixRising05
Mar 4 2009, 09:30 PM
They need some controversy and I think they may actually put Tatiana through if she is halfway decent tomorrow.
Personally, I think they've already made their choices. Tomorrow's performances will just be for show, LoL.
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KMan101
Mar 4 2009, 09:33 PM
Tatiana brings something to the show but her spot so should have gone to Felicia. Kendall or Kristen should probably be in over Jasmine but overall, I really like the Wild Cards the judges picked.

I bet we get Anoop, Megan and Ricky.
I agree. I actually felt Kendall and Kristen were inter-changeable only Kristen seemed to have more potential and a more layered voice. I just don't get the Jasmine selection at all. To me, that was there way of throwing a clunker into a competitive field.

I also agree with Kenny in that they probably know who they will pick but I think they are open to changing their mind. They did say today they changed their mind in regards to Jesse so who knows.

I'm thinking it will be Von, Ricky or Matt (depends who performs better), and Megan. I don't see Anoop getting through anymore like I thought he would a few weeks ago.
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PhoenixRising05
Mar 4 2009, 09:42 PM
I don't see Anoop getting through anymore like I thought he would a few weeks ago.
I think he will. He's got the whole "Anoop Dawg" thing going for him, and the judges already said that he was their easiest pick of the whole bunch.
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^True, I forgot that,

I just think with only three slots he will get left out. I don't know. They were right about one thing. They have alot of talent this year because it was tough having to see some of these people cut in the past few weeks, even going back to Hollywood. I don't remember there ever being so many difficult cuts like this and I don't think it has anything to do with the wild card and the new format. I mean, even if they went with the format from the last few years, they probably would've left out even more talent. Could you imagine only taking 6 guys into the top 12? That would be tough.
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Yeah, I forgot about Von. I could see him as well.
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Kenny
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LoL, I'd bet big money that tomorrow's group -- the rejects -- will put on a better show than any group from the last three weeks. Then perhaps the voters will see what morons they were for putting people like Alexis Grace and Michael Sarver through rather than the people who can actually sing.
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Kenny
Mar 4 2009, 10:11 PM
LoL, I'd bet big money that tomorrow's group -- the rejects -- will put on a better show than any group from the last three weeks. Then perhaps the voters will see what morons they were for putting people like Alexis Grace and Michael Sarver through rather than the people who can actually sing.
So, people are morons for liking them and thinking they can sing :laugh: . Just kidding.

They're just not your cup of tea and that is fine but they do have talent. I think they do and I know many others do too. I will agree Micheal is not great but he has a nice voice and ever year there is always someone like him who has a ok voice who gets in on likability.

I do agree the wild card round may end up being the best round, although this week was pretty solid.
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What does everyone think of this process of picking the top 12? Would you rather go back the way they had been doing it for a few years before this season?
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Rhiannon
Mar 4 2009, 10:32 PM
What does everyone think of this process of picking the top 12? Would you rather go back the way they had been doing it for a few years before this season?
Good question.

I'm beginning to wonder if they should just let the judges pick who goes through until we get to top 12 and then let the people vote. With the exception of Jasmine, the judges made better decisions tonight then the fans overall IMO.

I'm just looking at the top 12 so far and I only see 3 who can potentially win it while I see another 4 more sitting in the wild card round tomorrow. It just makes me wonder that should they choose to continue this format, if it's better to let the judges pick and then hand it over to the people once we have the top 12.

I don't think they should ever go back to 6 boys and 6 girls because if you get a year with alot of great guys or girls then it's just too limiting. Just look at this year. There would be no chance in hell for many of these guys in a year where the guys seem to be more talented.

One thing I'm also wondering...does anyone think the big top 12 twist is that they may bring someone who gets cut tomorrow night back? I know that sounds like too much with the wild card round (seriously, how many chances should one person get?) but I keep thinking that the judges may not be entirely happy with everyone who has gotten through and may feel some are left off that should be there. I don't know. That thought occurred to me tonight when the judges were talking about the wild card picks. It just seemed like alot of people they liked have not made it through so the may seek to rectify that.

I also found it funny how everyone looked pissed when Tatiana got called LOL. Kristen just pushed her out of the room and told her to go and I just loved Simon's mocking her LOL. Simon's facial expressions to Nathaniel earlier in the results show were pretty amusing too.
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Rhiannon
Mar 4 2009, 10:32 PM
What does everyone think of this process of picking the top 12? Would you rather go back the way they had been doing it for a few years before this season?
I personally would rather see them go to the top 12 guys and 12 girls for three weeks. Each week only two going. I think if we had that format I think some of these wild cards would have made it through compared to people like Michael and even Scott or Adam when they are going head to head. Some of the final 12 made it there because they were in a weaker group. They could have easily brought this group to 24 because I do think some of them were chosen as a way to hold spaces so the ones they really wanted could get through.

But in all honesty, I really wish the viewers only got to put it to the final two each week and then the judges made the final decision even with a possible sing-off. Things like Vote For The Worse and people voting because they feel bad for the person or other things prevents better talent from getting through. I still look back to season 5 with the final two being Chris Daughtry and Katherine McPhee. Based on that week Katherine should have been the one to go, but didn't (although in the long run probably the best thing thing for Chris that he didn't win). Also with last season I think people like Carly and Michael would have stayed longer. I still keep hoping this could be the big twist we hear about.
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^I think your right, cubsgirl.

I do think they could've easily let it go to 24 and went with the top 12 guys and top 12 girls. I just don't want the top 12 to be 6 guys and 6 girls. I don't want them to limit themselves to just 6 of one gender because you are bound to leave someone out in years where there are many good guys or many good girls.

I don't know. Maybe having 6 of each gender kind of weeds out some lesser talent. I like this format. I think the major issue is there is alot of talent this year.

I do hope your right too about the judges sending someone home out of the bottom 2. As i said before, I would've been ok with the judges making the decision right up to the top 12. They seem to be making better overall decisions.

By the way, Paula must have heard people bitching because she sounded intelligent this week. Her comments were shorter and more to the point. She wasn't wasting time and struggling with what to say. She sounded like she put thought into her comments. She made sense and didn't rip comments off the other judges and just put her spin on it. She actually remembered alot of the performances from Hollywood and used it in her commentary. Kara does that too but Randy and Simon sure don't. They tend to forget what you've done until around top 12 so I was impressed. I liked Paula this week but ended up finding myself not liking Kara for the first time. I like her. She adds credibility but if I had to hear her say "I don't know who you are" one more time...I mean, really? Why does that matter? I agree with Simon. Who cares what they are like shopping? She puts way too much emphasis in little things at times IMO and not enough on the voice. She was all over the place this week and wasting time so it's like her and Paula switched places for a week LOL.

A part of me is concerned that it seems like the judges are more into personality then talent. They seem more obsessed with image too. They keep going on and on about accents and clothes and I keep wondering what happened to talking about music? There is too much focus on everything but singing this year IMO and it's bugging me. I know Simon complained about the personalities being boring last year but I could care less. I've said this before but I have no desire to know much about these people until top 12. Give us some basic background and let's learn the rest through their music. Any other details you can throw at us in the top 12. There is just way too much focus on who these people are when they should be letting the music speak for them. Then again, if they keep picking the wrong songs...

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^^Agree with you Phoenix. Seems this year is all about image and not as much about singing. I think last year was the best talent they have had because there was a lot of diversity. There was a little something for everyone and variety. This year is about image, if someone is commercial or their sob story.
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Mar 4 2009, 11:57 PM
^^Agree with you Phoenix. Seems this year is all about image and not as much about singing. I think last year was the best talent they have had because there was a lot of diversity. There was a little something for everyone and variety. This year is about image, if someone is commercial or their sob story.
Yep. That's driving me crazy.

Danny Gokey has the dead wife story. Lil Rounds house was blown away by a tornado. Scott McIntyre is blind. Not surprisingly, those three are the ones that the show has been pimping more than anyone else, along with Adam Lambert.
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Other than Jasmine I think they made good choices on the Wild Card picks. I don't consider her one of the best of the girls they had to chose from.

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I am so happy Anoop And Tatianna are Wild Card Picks!!!

I hope they make it through.

We have five white guys who all sing the same kind of stuff in the top 12 already.

Von and the two other guys...ugh, Enough! LOL.
Edited by King, Mar 5 2009, 02:33 AM.
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So I figure the Judges already have their picks on who from the Wild Card is going through. My predictions:

Tatiana-The girl can sing and the drama will pull in ratings because we will get "Paula" moments out of her.
Megan-They just LOVED her...I don't see it, but they did.
Anoop-I think he is the one that if we viewers had the chance to vote probably would vote. Although I think that spot could just as easily be filled by Ricky or Matt. But from what I have seen online, Anoop has a bit more of a buzz and the judges might pick the one that the viewers really wanted.

Anyone else with predictions.
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Even though they're not performing 'til tonight my three to go forward are:

1- Anoop
2- Megan
3- Matt
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I want Anoop, Megan and either Ricky or Jesse. But I think Titiana or Von well be one of the other picks.
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1. Jasmine - They like her, she was good in Hollywood I hear, and they can't have only one black performer in the top 12. I am sorry, but that is NOT kosher!

2. Tattianna - she's the drama. And she's not too bad for a singer.

3. Megan - they loved her.

I know it's weird to see three girls as the wildcards, but only 3 girls are in the final 9........
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I really hope they don't pick all girls. The guys are so much better this season.
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