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American Idol Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 6 2009, 04:55 PM (65,032 Views)
Angie79
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I didn't think anyone was terrible. Adam was my favorite and probably Alison after that. I still like Kris, but he has been boring me for the last few weeks. I don't know why.

Jamie Foxx was actually decent as a mentor. I was suprised!
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Apr 28 2009, 08:50 PM
PhoenixRising05
Apr 28 2009, 08:22 PM
However, it's a singing competition and I'm not convinced yet that this season will go down, for me anyway, as one of the best IMO like seasons 2, 4, 6, 7 do but we'll see.
Yeah I agree with you on that. There is something missing this season. I think there are some good singers but there still isn't that one that I am dying to see what they do after Idol. I might listen to an album from Kris, Matt and even Adam out of curiousity, but don't know if I would buy them.
I never buy albums anymore, LoL! I just download, but I'd probably listen to Kris. It would depend what style Adam went with. I'd consider Allison but I don't know what type of music I can see her releasing.

Take for example, Melinda Doolittle. I loved her in her season, and she just released an album, but man, I'm not rushing out to buy it and haven't even bothered to download a song, LoL!
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Kenny
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Oh, and one more comment about Adam. Why does he get the pimp spot AGAIN? The producers aren't even trying to hide the pimping anymore, LoL. I don't think he's ever performed in the first half of any show this season.

This show pisses me off.
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Apr 28 2009, 09:07 PM
God, I can't get over how cheesy and awful Adam was tonight. The cheesy white suit, the makeup caked on his puffy cheeks, the way he sashayed down the stairs and held that glory note for about 15 seconds too long... just wow. It was SO cheesy and indulgent and full of painful wailing. Just awful. If anyone gave a performance like that in one of the earlier seasons, Simon would've slammed it and classified it as "indulgent nonsense."
Thank you Kenny for this post. I was trying to think how to explain Adam's performance and your comments are spot on.
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I just watched Adam's performance again and not only did I not like it...I HATED it. I have to agree that it was too over the top and way too indulgent. The first time around I was so caught up in how dramatic it was that I didn't really analyze it all that well but he hasn't been this bad in weeks. Still, at least it was not forgettable so Matt was easily the worst LOL. I think what Kenny said was right on. He probably should not have taken Jaime's advice but I'm glad Jaime tried with him. I think Matt was screwed regardless though.

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Wow. I liked Adam. I liked the theatrics (reminded me a lot of some of the performances I've seen on the Grammys and in concert videos). Of course, whether I'd actually listen to him on a regular basis would depend entirely on the remixes. lol Throw some Chris Cox or Freemasons mixing behind him (or, perhaps, some Jody den Broeder) and we'll see how much I like him.
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PhoenixRising05
Apr 28 2009, 09:23 PM
I just watched Adam's performance again and not only did I not like it...I HATED it. I have to agree that it was too over the top and way too indulgent. The first time around I was so caught up in how dramatic it was that I didn't really analyze it all that well but he hasn't been this bad in weeks. Still, at least it was not forgettable so Matt was easily the worst LOL. I think what Kenny said was right on. He probably should not have taken Jaime's advice but I'm glad Jaime tried with him. I think Matt was screwed regardless though.

ITA - Adam has got to tone it down we all know he can pull out the theatrics and perhaps he has too because his voice is not that marketable. But this is a singing competition and based on that fact alone - Allison and Danny should be in the top two .... Allison and Danny have the best vocals by far. Kris is possibly the most marketable. Matt I think could be good he just hasn't really brought it. Adam needs to do what Adam does best Musical Theatre.
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Angie79
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I do think that Adam can be over to top at times, but I don't think any of the rest even come close to him in vocals or range.
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Kenny
Apr 28 2009, 09:07 PM
God, I can't get over how cheesy and awful Adam was tonight. The cheesy white suit, the makeup caked on his puffy cheeks, the way he sashayed down the stairs and held that glory note for about 15 seconds too long... just wow. It was SO cheesy and indulgent and full of painful wailing. Just awful. If anyone gave a performance like that in one of the earlier seasons, Simon would've slammed it and classified it as "indulgent nonsense."
Well, to be fair, he did slam Adam a few times earlier this season for that. Adam has seen more criticism then Danny. The closest we got to Danny being bashed harshly was last week and that was rather tame.

As for the pimp slot, it's not worse this year then it has been since season 6. The past 3 seasons have been blatantly obvious in who they want to pimp as opposed to before when it wasn't so obvious and they actually tried to hide it. Having said that, they really have balanced out who gets the pimp slot this year. Your right that Danny and Adam have been kept away from the early part of the show for the most part but they also have not seen the pimp slot much so I will give the show that much. Everyone has gotten a crack at it. They even gave it to Anoop last week and in the past two seasons that would never happen. You would see the same people fluctuate out of that slot but they've had someone different every week and i believe Adam is the first to get the slot for the second time, which is common with only 5 people left. It seems it's worse to go between Danny, Adam, and Kris then it is to be on early in the show, at least this year.

I don't think anyone but Adam is a lock for the finals. KMan pointed out the ITunes numbers. I've seen some people post Youtube hits too. Various polls have different results as well. Anything can happen, especially at this point in the season. We've seen it happen with Daughtry, Melinda, etc. I still think Danny is going to go this week or next. I really do. I hope it's next week, providing Alison survives so she can at least have a shot at the finals. We'll see but nothing is locked up yet IMO with the exception of Adam.

By the way. I am dreading seeing Taylor Hicks tomorrow. I understand it's appropriate given the theme this week but they must really be desperate. I never thought they would invite him back for anything but maybe the finale to perform in a medley or something. They seem to always want to forget he existed LOL.
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Based on the vocals alone .... bottom three should be Matt, Adam and Kris! I think Adam had the worst vocals tonight.
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Angie79
Apr 28 2009, 09:56 PM
I do think that Adam can be over to top at times, but I don't think any of the rest even come close to him in vocals or range.
I have to agree.

I don't necessarily blame him for everything tonight because I think the show overdid it to on the lighting and the outfit. He looked cool but everything put together as a whole was just too much and I don't think I ended up liking the song for him either but I'm not sure.

He was due for an off week. For me, he's been great since the Johnny Cash song debacle. I agree with KMan that he deserves to be in the top 4 and to have a spot in the final. He's relevant, commercial as hell, and he's done more then enough to get there. I think Matt has to go and, hopefully, with the rock theme next week, everyone brings their A game and then we see where they all stand. I don't think the rock theme plays well for Danny at all but we'll see. Danny, Alison, Matt, and Kris do deserve to be the top 4 on talent alone so it would be fitting. I'm trying to be fair and am trying to put aside my differences for Danny going into next week. Maybe that will turn the odds in our favor to get him out LOL. I mean, the guy is talented and I'm trying to just focus on what he does but he's playing it far too safe and, as Kenny said, his lower register is awful. His upper register saves him when he gets to the chorus and high notes. When he has a song heavy on the chorus and high notes like he did this week, he comes off better then he is and that is why Simon and co could not see how safe he really was with his performance, unlike last week where Simon called him on being too safe because the song was not a very big song with alot of big notes so it was noticeable.
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Not that it has been 100% accurate this season, here are the current Dial Idol numbers.

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Kenny
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Apr 28 2009, 10:36 PM
Not that it has been 100% accurate this season, here are the current Dial Idol numbers.

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I'm not paying much attention to DI anymore. Their system has been screwy for several weeks now. Even so, it's a crime for Kris to be that low...
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MichaelGL
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Next week, Adam's going to have fireworks in his performance.
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I think with there only being 5 left now, the likelihood of it being right is much higher then it's been. Plus, the DialIdol numbers seem to fall in line with several polls across the net. I think it was expected for Matt to be gone regardless of what he did.

Assuming it is Matt, next week will be interesting as hell because it's likely they will each sing twice and I can see both Kris and Danny having major trouble with rock music. They are at risk to be very forgettable.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, Apr 28 2009, 10:42 PM.
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MichaelGL
Apr 28 2009, 10:40 PM
Next week, Adam's going to have fireworks in his performance.
That would not surprise me :laugh: .

I kind of want to see that now LOL.
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victoriaf


What was up with Adam tonight? I think his over confidence has lead him to the extreme extreme. His appeal has now become lost on me. That whole lighting effect gets old if you do it too much. If this was survivor I would have voted Adam off the Island tonight for his over indulgent performance. He has become the Willy Wonka of AI Creepy! I half expect him to come out shirtless and in skin tight pants in his next performance strutting around like Steven Tyler. I know he is the annointed winner - but what is his appeal? Fans have really bought into the hype on this guy! Kris in my opinion has so much more talent and is way more marketable. But because he doesn't strut his stuff like the chosen one he gets lost in the shuffle. IMO the top three should be Kris, Allison and Danny. Danny for some reason is not well liked by so many but he has killer vocals. The best in the competition. Allison is like a young Kelly Clarkson. Kris is a similar to Chris Daughtry. But the title will go to Adam because he is the Performer - Adam does not have best vocals. Sure he can hit those high notes but his screechy voice is hrd to listen to.
Edited by victoriaf, Apr 28 2009, 10:56 PM.
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Apr 28 2009, 10:42 PM
Assuming it is Matt, next week will be interesting as hell because it's likely they will each sing twice and I can see both Kris and Danny having major trouble with rock music. They are at risk to be very forgettable.
They use the theme's pretty loosely. This was one of the first weeks where everyone pretty much stayed within the theme and didn't make it in their own style. I think Kris could deal with the theme much more than Danny will be able to. I could see him picking songs and tone it down just a bit while still being rock. I see Danny having the most trouble with the rock theme next week.
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Kenny
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Apr 28 2009, 10:49 PM
That whole lighting effect gets old if you do it too much.
That annoys me too. Does he always have to look like a demonic angel falling down from heaven? LoL
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Kenny
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Matt is still in last place on Dial Idol. He's definitely going home.

Simon was stupid for comparison his voice to Nat King Cole's tonight. They sound nothing alike and that was Matt's worst performance of the season. What an insult to Nat, LoL.
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