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American Idol Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 6 2009, 04:55 PM (65,029 Views)
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cubsgirl
Apr 29 2009, 08:55 PM
Oh well. I was hoping for a bit of a Daughtry moment just for the shock value. But Matt was probably the weakest of the five last night. LOL at Simon shrugging off the shot about not being on his game. We all know what Simon was up to last night.
I know! He's not going to admit it but I think many could see it. It was funny to when Ryan asked all the judges for advice and Simon said that no one will want to listen to him now LOL. That was the first time he wasn't an arrogant ass!

Matt was the right person to go but one thing this does do is practically ensure that Adam is safe right into the top 3. His fanbase will go nuts next week. I'm glad Alison got through because next week is her week, Same with Adam. I want to see what he can do next week too. Hopefully, they both get through and Danny gets cut. There has to be a shock elimination coming. We've only had Alexis and that isn't much of a shock. Tonight nearly was one. If Alison can do well and maybe even get the pimp slot, then Danny could go. Him or Kris can go because we know Adam's fans will be out in full force. I can't wait for next week! Song choice and performance order will be key!

Matt did very well and he is talented. His goodbye performance was pretty good. He seems like an emotional guy and I liked him going out among the fans to perform. Ryan was right in that Matt really had a dramatic ride and he did have 9 lives. He could've gone a bit further had he made better choices and been more consistent. It was his time though and the judge's words to him were great. He can be successful and I think he may be if he gets with the right people. He is very commercial in his style.

With all the time the show had left, I thought for sure we would get a shock because that is usually the case when they have lots of time left and with the save gone, there is no other reason to leave that much time. I'm glad they had time because it gave Matt a proper sendoff and gave the judge's time to give him some nice words of advice. I hope they continue to do that the rest of the season, especially since we are nearly at the end now and we have the best left so we are at the most dramatic and emotional part of the season. Hell, they should do what they did every week. The eliminated contestant should not be rushed out the door. I was glad they left enough time and they really did a good job with time management tonight. With the results, all the filler, and 3 performances...the fact that they had all that time left at the end is amazing for this show. Hopefully, this means the time issues are behind us because they have been much better with time the past two weeks (of course, less contestants helps). This goes back to last night but I was also happy that they went right down the row with the judge's comments. It should always go in order with Randy, Kara, Paula, and then Simon commenting.

They really stressed the fact that everyone left is talented and that the competition is wide open. I wonder if they finally realized the pimping was out of control and that people were seeing through their agenda. Maybe that Simon interview pushed it all over the edge and now the show has decided to be fair and unbiased and just let the people decide who wins and who goes. I won't hold my breath but it's a thought. More likely, they know what people are saying and now they are trying to do a better job of hiding their agenda by claiming the competition is open and all that shit. We'll see.

Can't wait for next week!
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Apr 29 2009, 09:03 PM
America got it right - last night Adam and Matt were the weakest.
You know...your right.

I don't like Danny but Adam went a bit too far last night so American really did get it right this week. I would've only switched Danny for Kris in the bottom 3 but, other then that, they made the right decisions.

Alison and Adam sure proved that it doesn't make a difference where you are one week because you can fall pretty easily. Adam was at least in the top 3 last week and was bottom two this week. Alison was bottom two last week and top two this week. Anything can happen, for sure.
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Apr 29 2009, 09:15 PM
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Apr 29 2009, 09:03 PM
America got it right - last night Adam and Matt were the weakest.
You know...your right.

I don't like Danny but Adam went a bit too far last night so American really did get it right this week. I would've only switched Danny for Kris in the bottom 3 but, other then that, they made the right decisions.

Alison and Adam sure proved that it doesn't make a difference where you are one week because you can fall pretty easily. Adam was at least in the top 3 last week and was bottom two this week. Alison was bottom two last week and top two this week. Anything can happen, for sure.
Kris is my favorite and I have to admit that they got the bottom three right this week ... but hey Kris voters may be more aggressive next week and keep him safe. Next week is Rock week and I suspect of the four left Kris will be the weakest in rock week so he'll need the votes.
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I'm re-watching it and the look on Danny's face when Ryan says his group is not the bottom 3 and then Adam over to the bottom 3 where he belongs is HILARIOUS!! I think Danny needed to check his pants LOL. Granted, Alison and everyone else was surprised but Danny's reaction was priceless.

Kara's was funny too. Everyone ragged on her about her saying her mouth drops open alot for Adam LOL. Talk about a sexual innuendo :laugh: . Good thing Paula didn't say it given her history with the show.

I remember in Simon's interview this week that he mentioned how they have not had time to show much of the contestants living together in the mansion over the course of the season like they had planned. They finally had time tonight and showed the food fight so I guess we will be getting more of that now like we should've been getting all along. That is good because it's funny and interesting. I like seeing them all interacting like that.

I also realized that all of the judge's wild cards are finally gone now with Matt eliminated. He should be proud that he lasted that long. Same goes for Anoop. Both were wild cards picks so good for them on lasting that long. It's actually remarkable how long Kris has lasted and how popular he has become considering he had no hype or airtime prior to the performance shows and he still doesn't get much pimping.

I also think the impact of the pimp slot means nothing. Lil was in the bottom two a few weeks ago when she went last. Anoop went last a week ago and got eliminated. Adam went last last night and was in the bottom two. It's becoming the new "danger" slot it seems. That used to be the slots earlier in the show but I guess as the season goes on it really starts to not matter as much. I think it probably matters more who you perform between, for example if Kris performs between Danny and Adam. He could end up being forgotten or looking worse then he is, especially if he isn't very good or if the other two are great, so that may be what matters more, especially now with so few people left.
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coffeelover
Apr 29 2009, 09:38 PM
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Apr 29 2009, 09:15 PM
coffeelover
Apr 29 2009, 09:03 PM
America got it right - last night Adam and Matt were the weakest.
You know...your right.

I don't like Danny but Adam went a bit too far last night so American really did get it right this week. I would've only switched Danny for Kris in the bottom 3 but, other then that, they made the right decisions.

Alison and Adam sure proved that it doesn't make a difference where you are one week because you can fall pretty easily. Adam was at least in the top 3 last week and was bottom two this week. Alison was bottom two last week and top two this week. Anything can happen, for sure.
Kris is my favorite and I have to admit that they got the bottom three right this week ... but hey Kris voters may be more aggressive next week and keep him safe. Next week is Rock week and I suspect of the four left Kris will be the weakest in rock week so he'll need the votes.
Fair point. That is why I think Alison will be the x-factor next week. If she performs well, Danny could really be on the hot seat. Adam and Kris' fans will cause a surge. Sure, Kris may still end up in the bottom 3 since we only have 4 left but I can see him getting some help because of being in the bottom 3 this week.

I really think it all depends on how things go with Alison. Adam will be safe for sure coming off this week and Alison could very well determine Danny's fate. I'm also wondering if Alison's surge in voting this week had less to do with her performance and her new look and more to do with Lil and her being the only girl left. Lil was trying to get her fanbase to vote for her. Alison is the only girl left and that sometimes is enough to get by on and, with her performing well, we could see her end up like Katherine McPhee and going right into the finale now. She's actually following the same pattern as Katherine and it will really be ironic if her and Danny are bottom 2 next week with Danny going because it would be exactly like Katherine being down there and Daughtry going home. This season is very similar to season 5 in that it seems rather close with the competition only this season has a much more talented top 4 and season 3 was really a 3-way competition. Also, Alison's been in and out of the bottom 3 just like Katherine. She just has a better voice and has gotten more positive critiques from the judges then Katherine, who was rather misunderstood anyway that season. The similarities are strange as hell LOL.
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Please excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor...

ADAM LAMBERT WAS IN THE BOTTOM 2?!

I just about swallowed my tongue when they said he was in the Bottom 3, but then when they sent Kris back and revealed that Adam was in the Bottom 2, I was just in disbelief. I'm still not sure if I believe it. Are we 100% certain that he actually got the second lowest number of votes, or did the producers just put him in the Bottom 2 for shock value? Either way, I was stunned. Don't get me wrong, I thought he deserved it. But after all these weeks of the judges licking Adam's ass and the public acting all goo-goo ga-ga over his theatric queeny ass, I just never expected him to get the second lowest number of votes. I was happy as a pig in shit!

Anyway, I sat here praying that his ass would get the boot. My fingers were crossed and I was hopeful. Then they sent Matt packing and I wanted to vomit. What kind of tease was that?! The one time there's actually a chance of Adam being shown the door and Matt gets the boot instead? Pssh! Now his fans are going to vote twice as much and he's going to end up winning it all. That's probably what the producers were hoping for. Ick.

Another shock was Allison not being in the bottom. She was in the Top 2 right alongside Danny. I wasn't expecting that at all.

Did y'all notice that when Matt was eliminated, he didn't seem emotional whatsoever? I think he knew it was coming and prepared himself weeks ago, because his face was unreadable and void of all emotion tonight.

Next week, Allison or Kris go bye-bye. Sadly. Probably Kris... damn it.
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I hope Danny goes next week. He was a lot better this week than he's been the rest of the season, but Adam is 100 x more talented imho. I am shocked that Adam was in the Bottom 3. I think a lot of his fans thought he was safe and didn't vote him this week.
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Oh, and Jamie Foxx sucked. Taylor Hicks was.... well, Taylor Hicks. Natalie Cole was lovely.
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Kenny
Apr 29 2009, 09:53 PM
Please excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor...

ADAM LAMBERT WAS IN THE BOTTOM 2?!

I just about swallowed my tongue when they said he was in the Bottom 3, but then when they sent Kris back and revealed that Adam was in the Bottom 2, I was just in disbelief. I'm still not sure if I believe it. Are we 100% certain that he actually got the second lowest number of votes, or did the producers just put him in the Bottom 2 for shock value? Either way, I was stunned. Don't get me wrong, I thought he deserved it. But after all this week of the judges licking Adam's ass and the public acting all goo-goo ga-ga over his theatric queeny ass, I just never expected him to get the second lowest number of votes. I was happy as a pig in shit!

Anyway, I sat here praying that his ass would get the boot. My fingers were crossed and I was hopeful. Then they sent Matt packing and I wanted to vomit. What kind of tease was that?! The one time there's actually a chance of Adam being shown the door and Matt gets the boot instead? Pssh! Now his fans are going to vote twice as much and he's going to end up winning it all. That's probably what the producers were hoping for. Ick.

Another shock was Allison not being in the bottom. She was in the Top 2 right alongside Danny. I wasn't expecting that at all.

Did y'all notice that when Matt was eliminated, he didn't seem emotional whatsoever? I think he knew it was coming and prepared himself weeks ago, because his face was unreadable and void of all emotion tonight.

Next week, Allison or Kris go bye-bye. Sadly. Probably Kris... damn it.
I was waiting for your reaction LOL.

They said Adam was in the bottom two so he really was the second-lowest.

I was not expecting top 2 for Alison either but it just goes to show you that anything can happen.

Matt was pretty emotional at the end but he had to know he was going. I can say this now that I know the result but it was cruel making him sit there for so long with Adam because he had to figure he was done considering Adam's success. Therefore, Matt had about 15-20 minutes to prepare himself. Hell, I'm sure coming into this week, he figured this could be it and he's had enough changes. The fact that he wasn't great last night probably sealed the deal in his mind and he knew it would take a major upset for Adam to go home rather then him.

I'm sure the producers and show are happy though. That is why I said while I would like to believe all their BS about the competition being open meant that they would stop with the pimping and bias, I doubted it because now they pretty much secured Adam's spot now and the show won't get too much in the way of bashing from as many people regarding the final two already being decided and such since Adam almost went home and the judges went on and on all night about how anyone could pull it off and win. The show kept Adam and made themselves look good so they are probably happy as hell LOL.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, Apr 29 2009, 10:08 PM.
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I was suprised that Adam was in the bottom group too! I wonder if he really was though? You never know with this show. I didn't think Kris would be in the bottom either. I figured they would do a bottom two and it would be Matt and Allison. I was also suprised that Adam actually picked a side when Ryan asked him what group he thought he was with.
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Apr 29 2009, 10:08 PM
I was suprised that Adam was in the bottom group too! I wonder if he really was though? You never know with this show. I didn't think Kris would be in the bottom either. I figured they would do a bottom two and it would be Matt and Allison. I was also suprised that Adam actually picked a side when Ryan asked him what group he thought he was with.
Ryan said that Adam really was in the bottom two. That was why everyone was shocked. He also said that Kris was in the bottom 3 so we know all the placements. We just don't know if Alison or Danny was #1 or #2.

Adam really should've just stood in the middle. I'm stunned he chose a side. I know he tried to be respectful about it but still. Just do what others have done. He came off kind of cocky too for the first time. The way he said "Based on last night.." and then walked over to Alison and Danny basically implied that there was no way he felt he could be in the bottom 3. He knows Danny is a frontrunner so him choosing that side all but said he felt he could not possibly be in the bottom group.

As I said, I'm sure Kris has an ego too and would've done the same but I just hate that Adam did it when others have never done it.
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I know that Ryan said he was in the bottom 2. What I mean is the producers can do what they want and put someone in the bottom group even if they really aren't just to shake things up.
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With next week being rock week, I bet Adam will get the pimp spot again. For the 15th time this season. Yuck.
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Apr 29 2009, 10:19 PM
I know that Ryan said he was in the bottom 2. What I mean is the producers can do what they want and put someone in the bottom group even if they really aren't just to shake things up.
I know but they all seemed so shocked. I mean, when Kris was sent back, Randy was in disbelief. He just kept saying "wow." I think if it were something like that, you would've seen Adam sent back because they would've gotten the same impact if he was merely in the bottom 3 without putting him in the bottom two.

One other thing I noticed is the smirk on Simon's face when Kris got sent to safety. He really showed what he was up to last night with his comments tonight and that smirk. Part of me wonders if he wants either Kris or Alison in the finale with Adam rather then Danny with Adam. That way they can still get the one they want in the finale but also claim that it was an open competition since someone who wasn't pimped as much and who wasn't a major frontrunner all year got in there.
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Apr 29 2009, 10:35 PM
With next week being rock week, I bet Adam will get the pimp spot again. For the 15th time this season. Yuck.
Doubt it.

They would never be that obvious. No one has ever gotten it back to back weeks and, honestly, he's only gotten it twice. Everyone has had it once and Adam was the first to do it twice and it does have to come back around eventually if your there long enough. The only thing they've done with Adam is he's never performed first or second.

Besides, the pimp slot clearly is not having the effect it used to have. It put Lil and Adam in the bottom two. It got Anoop eliminated. I think it has more to do with who you perform in between and how good they are and how good you are as well. Those factors mean more, at leas they do this season and they definitely mean more now.

I wonder what they will do with Danny since he is a fave of theirs and clearly will be at a disadvantage. Kris and Danny are the ones who could struggle next week so it will be interesting to see what happens with them.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, Apr 29 2009, 10:42 PM.
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I am curious to see how Kris does with rock music. I wonder if they are only doing one sing each again since they are having a mentor?
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OMG I could not believe tonight's show!

Adam in the bottom 2 is shocking, and they kind of humiliated him to boot...making him think he was safe and insinuating he should pick the safe group. Kinda tacky!
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I was flabbergasted that Adam was shown as in the bottom 2. Actually, I think this was done deliberately to give support to Matt, but remember that it was this time in eliminations that there is usually the shock like Chris Daughtry was eliminated most likely due to folks believing that he was safe.

Frankly I was sick to my stomach when Kris was told he was safe. Ugh. I was so hoping he was the one to go this week. He is not any where near the other three in voice, imho.

Allison may do well with Rock and be safe again. I hope so. She should be in the top three.
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Apr 29 2009, 08:44 PM
I laughed when he acted like he was so happy to be back at Idol. He couldn't distance himself any further after he won. He clearly thought he was too good for it. I guess your record label dropping you and your album bombing humbles you. I wonder how his second album is doing. Must be doing better since he is touring and all. I guess maybe Broadway helped promote him well.
Yes, Tim, I am still a proud member of The Soul Patrol and I have to chime in. :laugh:

Arista and Taylor parted ways because Arista wanted complete artistic control over his new album. They wanted him to record a Pop album and he refused so they dropped him. As for him trying to distance himself from Idol, I think that's the other way around. Taylor received the least promotion from any Idol winner. Hell, the show didn't even introduce him in Season 5 when he dueted with Toni Braxton and every other performer was introduced. I think the difference in Taylor and other winners is that Taylor was already a blues/soul musician and the show couldn't mold him into what they wanted him to be.

He's only sold 20,000 copies of the new album but since it's on his own label he's made just as much money as if he'd sold 300,000 copies on a major label.

I bought his new CD the day it came out and it's awesome! Take a listen :)

"Seven Mile Breakdown"


"Nineteen"


"Woman's Gota Have It" f/ Elliot Yamin


"Maybe You Should"




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Apr 30 2009, 01:27 AM
OMG I could not believe tonight's show!

Adam in the bottom 2 is shocking, and they kind of humiliated him to boot...making him think he was safe and insinuating he should pick the safe group. Kinda tacky!
Yeah it was and they did make him look bad for sure. The fact that he even made a choice, though, was the worst. He should've just did what others have done in past seasons and choose neither side.

As for how many songs next week, I bet they will sing two. 4 songs will not fill an hour, even if they stretch out judge's comments and interview everyone.

Edited by PhoenixRising05, Apr 30 2009, 02:21 AM.
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