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SOD: Corday interview about Deidre and Drake; Jan. 27th issue; Article Summary
Topic Started: Jan 14 2009, 12:02 PM (7,444 Views)
Kyrai


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Jan 22 2009, 12:35 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 22 2009, 03:17 AM

One thing though...when was Dee fired from the show? She left of her own accord in 1987 didn't she?

I think Deidre and TPTB couldn't reach agreement on how she would split her time between DAYS and her primetime show. She wasn't "fired" but her departure wasn't entirely voluntary, either.
Thanks Ponz.

I always assumed she wanted to leave, but now that I think about it, I remember them really working her time on the show to accomodate her primetime show. She was in a coma, she was thought dead, etc. I remember it being frustrating when they were apart so much, and being very upset when we didn't get a reunion before she died in the plane crash. I guess that was because the time negotiations fell through. I always thought it was her choice, so sad as I was, I wished her well.
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GET EM STEPH!!

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Jan 22 2009, 12:35 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 22 2009, 03:17 AM

One thing though...when was Dee fired from the show? She left of her own accord in 1987 didn't she?

I think Deidre and TPTB couldn't reach agreement on how she would split her time between DAYS and her primetime show. She wasn't "fired" but her departure wasn't entirely voluntary, either.
Really? Wow...never knew that.

From what I remember, it came off as her wanting to leave. Like Kyrai, I remember how they tried to accommodate her with her other show and I suppose I could see how it would get difficult after awhile, especially back then.

I agree with Jane on the difference between SN and MBE and Drake and Dee. SN and MBE left and it was all over the net that they took a cut when they came back. They came back around the time Days' renewal was reported in 2006 and Hogan was hired so all parties involved knew they had to come back with a reduced salary. They had been gone a long time anyway so they already would've been further down on the totem pole at Days compared to Drake and Dee.
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Jan 22 2009, 03:17 AM
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Jan 22 2009, 03:05 AM
Phoenix, I was reply to this comment by pink:

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I think it's funny that Deidre always thought that she would have a place at Days and has always acted like she was superior to all of the other actors on the show.


And again I ask, where is there a quote that backs this up? What you mentioned isn't at all what this poster is claiming. DH saying that she would be at Days as long as they would have her is not the same as what that poster was implying... which is arrogance and superiority. More like the opposite of that. Considering she has been fired from Days in the past, I can't imagine she felt immune from being fired.
You know what? Forget it. I thought you were just talking about the comment made about "her always having a place at Days." I completely missed the superiority part so no wonder we are on different wavelengths. I just looked at you asking for quotes in that post. My bad.

One thing though...when was Dee fired from the show? She left of her own accord in 1987 didn't she?
No, she was fired. She was doing Our House and DAYS at the same time and they decided they couldn't keep her on the soap.
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Jan 22 2009, 03:33 AM
My question is, why were they fired instead of Steve and Mary Beth? What recently storyline has Patch and Kayla had? At least Jarlena were the frontburner story.
Good question! I'm sure D&D would have taken pay cuts if asked.
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Does anyone know just how much Drake and Deidre were making? What were their salaries?
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Jan 22 2009, 02:02 PM
Does anyone know just how much Drake and Deidre were making? What were their salaries?
$1.3 million per episode.

LoL, I don't know. I would guess somewhere in the ballpark of $12,000 per episode.
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Jan 22 2009, 02:06 PM
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Jan 22 2009, 02:02 PM
Does anyone know just how much Drake and Deidre were making? What were their salaries?
$1.3 million per episode.

LoL, I don't know. I would guess somewhere in the ballpark of $12,000 per episode.
I would guess much more. It was publicized Missy made around 600 000 $ per year in 1995 before she left the show. So Dee and Drake for sure made more than milion.
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GET EM STEPH!!

SN and MBE definitely were the most expendable but they were not the most expensive and I do think there were other factors too. I think they just had no clue what they were doing with them. The story had started, stopped, and changed so much in 2008 that it watered down so much potential. That has been the case with Days for over a decade now. Too much upheaval and change. One of the things that made things click in the 80's and 90's was solid leadership and consistency in vision. Sure, there would be some clashing but issues like that were never made apparent onscreen. Now it's so blatant it's appalling. This goes for many other soaps too.

It's no coincidence that OLTL and Y&R are the best right now and that is simply because they have strong leadership and maintain a consistent vision. There doesn't seem to be much interference right now. I'm convinced both the anniversary and Frons fucked with so much of Ron's writing in the summer and early Fall but it seems his vision is getting onscreen now. You can always tell when a writer is getting their vision across. I remember that happened with JER too. You could always sense his presence in stories and many times during his second Days run, I didn't feel that. It didn't feel like him at times. There will always be interference and clashing but the idea is to not let it affect what ends up onscreen. The idea is to compromise and maintain the vision at hand or end the regime and assemble a team that can maintain one vision.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, Jan 22 2009, 02:33 PM.
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Jan 22 2009, 12:45 PM
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Jan 22 2009, 12:13 PM
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Jan 22 2009, 03:33 AM
My question is, why were they fired instead of Steve and Mary Beth? What recently storyline has Patch and Kayla had? At least Jarlena were the frontburner story.
That´s incomparable.

Drake was one the show for 22 years and he was a lead during Reilly´s first time when I´m sure his and Dee´s pay really skyrocketed. And Dee came back in 1991 with a very exclusive contract to begin with, her and Wayne Northtrop´s return was Corday´s first ever attempt to bust ratings by bringing back someone popular from past and he fulfilled every wish they´d had including the exclusive position in the credits.

MBE and SN returned after 15 or so years absence when the show already had much smaller budget. And both were already past their prime and hoping to be asked so I think they happily accepted any offer they´ve got.

MBE and SN aren't past prime...MBE had been on ATWT right before this finally lined up this time and SN had been on GH for a bit as well as doing other things behind the camera and other ventures of his own. I seriously doubt they were begging for the offer. I think Corday thought he could gain a HUGE following back for his show and raise ratings but between HW issues and such.....he never got them re-introduced properly to the viewers who missed their first run. There had been several times that Corday and crew had asked the 2 of them about coming back in that 15 year absence and several times they had everything in place to only have Corday pull back out of the deal.

I do agree though about the contract $$$ and such both Drake and Dee had been there as a constant for along time and could negotiate better deals with more $$ and the like which would inflate their salaries higher than the rest and would be the big reason for the budget heave -ho first.

All of this goes back to Corday's lousy business skills as an owner and NOTHING more.

ITA!
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On the SN & MBE versus the DHs, I think you have to also lump in PR & KA into the 'budget' equation behind this asinine decision. All speculation and my opinion of course but of the three vet couples, the largest fan bases go to B&H and J&M - mostly due to their longevity with the show. Yes Steve and Kayla had a huge fan base back in the day, but the botched up return didn't draw back in everyone.

Of who has the highest salaries, likely by far it is the DHs. And of age, of both actors as a couple, again it'd go to the DHs (I think Drake is younger than SN but I mean as a couple). So in terms of which vet couple do you eliminate? It would seem, the oldest and most expensive. Then, they can force P&K to take a pay cut and keep a large fan base with actors that are young enough to carry on for a few more years yet.

(keep in mind I don't think age should even enter this equation - but you often hear it as an issue about why we don't get more love scenes between the older couples. I myself prefer it to the so called 'love' I see among the 'younger' set they like to show!)

I can see the rationale and how it works on paper enough for them to make the decision. I don't like it. I don't agree with it and I really hate how they went about it.
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Jan 22 2009, 05:49 PM
On the SN & MBE versus the DHs, I think you have to also lump in PR & KA into the 'budget' equation behind this asinine decision. All speculation and my opinion of course but of the three vet couples, the largest fan bases go to B&H and J&M - mostly due to their longevity with the show. Yes Steve and Kayla had a huge fan base back in the day, but the botched up return didn't draw back in everyone.

Of who has the highest salaries, likely by far it is the DHs. And of age, of both actors as a couple, again it'd go to the DHs (I think Drake is younger than SN but I mean as a couple). So in terms of which vet couple do you eliminate? It would seem, the oldest and most expensive. Then, they can force P&K to take a pay cut and keep a large fan base with actors that are young enough to carry on for a few more years yet.

(keep in mind I don't think age should even enter this equation - but you often hear it as an issue about why we don't get more love scenes between the older couples. I myself prefer it to the so called 'love' I see among the 'younger' set they like to show!)

I can see the rationale and how it works on paper enough for them to make the decision. I don't like it. I don't agree with it and I really hate how they went about it.
Seems to me they should not have gotten rid of D&D because they were the oldest and most expensive. You should keep them because of their popularity. Considering the show is limping toward cancellation they should have banked on keeping the stuff that works, ask the DH's to take pay cuts, and get rid of the characters that are not popular.
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I'm not happy that Drake and Deidre were released, but if they were making 1.3 million per episode, that would be a huge drain on a financially troubled show. Is that figure correct or did I read it wrong? Maybe I did. And is that each of them, or just Deidre? Or a combined total?

Stephen and Mary Beth are not as highly paid as that...They couldn't be, and considering how long they were gone, S/K do have a good size fanbase. I mean, it's actually pretty remarkable when you consider that the characters were gone for 16 years.
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All I can say about K.C. is that he is a object that is taking up space in this world,he can have all the Young Viewers and have Young People on,with pointless storys and soft porn nuDays.
Deidre & Drake better not come back to Days or nuDays,because they deserve better and so do their Fans!
If K.C. thinks that J&M fans will stick around,to see if they come back,he's got another thing comming,ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!
It is almost 1/23/09 @ 2pm and then Sooooooooo Long Days!!!
Edited by SomeSoupRocks, Jan 23 2009, 12:08 AM.
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Jan 23 2009, 12:06 AM
All I can say about K.C. is that he is a object that is taking up space in this world,he can have all the Young Viewers and have Young People on,with pointless storys and soft porn nuDays.
Deidre & Drake better not come back to Days or nuDays,because they deserve better and so do their Fans!
If K.C. thinks that J&M fans will stick around,to see if they come back,he's got another thing comming,ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!
It is almost 1/23/09 @ 2pm and then Sooooooooo Long Days!!!
there will be a collective number of days fans tuning out at 2pm tomorrow and not looking back. i am one of them. it's been a great ride, but after this fiasco and a years of empty promises and no payoffs (especially this year and we had some great opportunities all year but they failed), i am retiring from the show as well. :wave:
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I would rather see Stephen and Mary Beth any day over Deidre. They can actually act.
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Jan 22 2009, 11:38 PM
I'm not happy that Drake and Deidre were released, but if they were making 1.3 million per episode, that would be a huge drain on a financially troubled show. Is that figure correct or did I read it wrong? Maybe I did. And is that each of them, or just Deidre? Or a combined total?

Stephen and Mary Beth are not as highly paid as that...They couldn't be, and considering how long they were gone, S/K do have a good size fanbase. I mean, it's actually pretty remarkable when you consider that the characters were gone for 16 years.
1.3 a year, not per episode.
Susan Lucci reportedly makes around this same figure if not a little more. This would match most vets of their stature like Susan Lucci, Eric Braeden, Erika Slezak, Melody Thomas Scott, etc.

Newbies make around $250,000 per year. Mary Beth and Stephen are likely in the middle somewhere at around $500K or $600K. The comparisons of MB and SN salaries to the DH's are not fair as one who is at a job longterm receives increases in salary annually based upon their experience and stature at that show, while people who take breaks in acting gigs are not really steadily moving up in the salary ranks.

This would be similar to a teacher who takes ten years off to raise her family and then returns to teaching. Her colleagues that have continued to work that ten years may be making $55K while the returning teacher will get $40K because they have not taught in 10 years. That really is how salaries in most professions work, whether in entertainment or other fields.
Edited by e83talus, Jan 23 2009, 09:27 AM.
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Drake's Back!!

After 2:00 today, so long Days! You will no longer be a part of my daily routine!
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Jan 23 2009, 09:26 AM
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Jan 22 2009, 11:38 PM
I'm not happy that Drake and Deidre were released, but if they were making 1.3 million per episode, that would be a huge drain on a financially troubled show. Is that figure correct or did I read it wrong? Maybe I did. And is that each of them, or just Deidre? Or a combined total?

Stephen and Mary Beth are not as highly paid as that...They couldn't be, and considering how long they were gone, S/K do have a good size fanbase. I mean, it's actually pretty remarkable when you consider that the characters were gone for 16 years.


e83talus
 

1.3 a year, not per episode.
Susan Lucci reportedly makes around this same figure if not a little more. This would match most vets of their stature like Susan Lucci, Eric Braeden, Erika Slezak, Melody Thomas Scott, etc.

Newbies make around $250,000 per year. Mary Beth and Stephen are likely in the middle somewhere at around $500K or $600K. The comparisons of MB and SN salaries to the DH's are not fair as one who is at a job longterm receives increases in salary annually based upon their experience and stature at that show, while people who take breaks in acting gigs are not really steadily moving up in the salary ranks.



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Thanks! I thought it was exhorbitant and if they made that much, I could definitely see why TPTB would think they had to cut them loose right now, with things as they are financially.

1.3 million is still a lot of money, though.

I'm not saying that Drake and Deidre haven't put in their time on Days because I know they have...and it's not even about whether they deserve that salary or not (though we could engage in a spirited debate over the salary of an entertainer v. doctors, policemen, firemen, or even good teachers). Drake and Deidre should be paid the going rate of a 20+/30+ year soap vet/headliner. But the show can't afford that salary...None of the shows can at this point.

Thing is, Drake and Deidre weren't even given the OPTION of taking a pay cut. TPTB should have made them an offer. If Drake and Deidre had opted not to take it, okay. That would have been their choice and whatever choice they'd made would have been supported by their fans.

But for them not to be given a choice was wrong.



Edited by Kriss4, Jan 23 2009, 08:59 PM.
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