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Some tidbits from Thaao Penghlis' online chat; March 7th, 2009
Topic Started: Mar 10 2009, 12:58 PM (2,990 Views)
Shylock


They could have done so much more with Anna/Tony than they wound up doing. And they could have gotten Eugene and Calliope to come back for a wedding too. That would have been a blast from the past.
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Mar 10 2009, 01:46 PM
Its more than obvious that this is all Tomlin's doing, especially based on Corday's reactions...I can't believe he just put his head down, though. As much as anyone could feel bad for him, that truthfully is a little rude.

And its no surprise Hogan liked Tony and Anna, and Thaao(and maybe LeAnn) probably did plant the seeds, as he said. Only thing is, Hogan didn't seem interested in writing for them after Tony was rescued from that island.

I feel bad for Thaao and LeAnn, and Tony and Anna. Its like the characters are cursed...Anna's never really been written for over the course of these past two years since she returned, and Tony always is made into a crazy villian(and later turns out to be Andre), or just purely isn't written for.
Isn't Corday Tomlin's boss or is Tomlin just Corday's latest shield that is used to protect Ken from actually having to be a man and set up and take the heat for something.
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Mar 10 2009, 03:09 PM
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Mar 10 2009, 03:07 PM
And another thing on how Tony's going to be exiting, especially now that he's not getting a funeral:

I feel like that, even though I get Tomlin/Whitesell/Higley want to be doing something exciting by having this whodunnit, they should have just had Tony and Anna leave town if they want to close the chapter of Tony DiMera, and Anna DiMera, forever. I mean Tony has died...what, a million times now? I just think it would have been better and more final for Tony and Anna to have their happily ever after.
I agree with you. Especially since this murder mystery is based on lame motivations that, unless your psychotic, you would never kill someone over. Plus, Tony's death has NO long lasting ramifications. It's useless.
No long lasting ramificition?! The murder starts the whole Kiriakis/DiMera war and rises it into a completely different lever. So far it was just business, now it gets personal. From the few leaked spoilers there are some huge ramication ahead for almost anyone involved and we know just the snippets so far.

This is a great chance to give Stefano/EJ some strong motivation to be really bad again and it actually makes sense, not like the vendetta stupidline or Andre/Tony´s attempt to destroy all true loves in Salem as revenge for who knows what.
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Corday sucks, Tomlin sucks, Higley sucks. That's all I have to say.
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I'm sad for Kayla/Steve/Tony leaving but not Anna/John/Marlena

Sorry cmon Anna cant act and so as John & Marlena they overact
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GET EM STEPH!!

jane1978
Mar 10 2009, 03:32 PM
Amello
Mar 10 2009, 03:09 PM
daysfan
Mar 10 2009, 03:07 PM
And another thing on how Tony's going to be exiting, especially now that he's not getting a funeral:

I feel like that, even though I get Tomlin/Whitesell/Higley want to be doing something exciting by having this whodunnit, they should have just had Tony and Anna leave town if they want to close the chapter of Tony DiMera, and Anna DiMera, forever. I mean Tony has died...what, a million times now? I just think it would have been better and more final for Tony and Anna to have their happily ever after.
I agree with you. Especially since this murder mystery is based on lame motivations that, unless your psychotic, you would never kill someone over. Plus, Tony's death has NO long lasting ramifications. It's useless.
No long lasting ramificition?! The murder starts the whole Kiriakis/DiMera war and rises it into a completely different lever. So far it was just business, now it gets personal. From the few leaked spoilers there are some huge ramication ahead for almost anyone involved and we know just the snippets so far.

This is a great chance to give Stefano/EJ some strong motivation to be really bad again and it actually makes sense, not like the vendetta stupidline or Andre/Tony´s attempt to destroy all true loves in Salem as revenge for who knows what.
I agree.

Unlike the other exits, this one seems planned and is furthering two big stories. They could've easily let Thaoo go months ago yet they kept him and we did start to get hints of what was to come in December and January when he began to get involved in Dimera affairs and started getting suspicious of Nicole. It also doesn't really seem to be a whodunit based on what we know. It seems like Philip and Tony fight and there is an accident and Philip gets blamed, which ups the Kiriakis/Dimera feud to a new level. That is what we know based on spoilers. Doesn't sound like a whole lot of mystery. I'm also not too upset about Tony not getting a funeral. I mean, it sucks that they will just kill him and that's it but it's not like he's a Bo or John or something. He's important but it's not really needed. I kind of see Tony as someone who would not want a big funeral type deal anyway.

I agree with Drew in that this is all Tomlin. You can tell Corday didn't want to do this but circumstances forced his hand. Obviously, it has hurt some relationships. I would've liked the massive changes to be more gradual but that couldn't happen and I blame Corday for that. The show needed to start weeding itself off the vets years ago instead of repeating the same stories with the supercouples over and over. If they had done that, things would be easier but too late for that. They did what they had to do and I think that is why Tomlin was brought on. He's a strong leader that will make the tough decisions. He did that in the early 90's at Days too only as a writer. He reminds me of Langan in that he can influence Corday and has managed to get Corday to give him control. Corday is clearly not involved in anything right now and that has not happened since Langan/JER's reign in the 90's. The show needs that and it needed an overhaul. I don't think Corday ever would've went this far if not for Tomlin and I do think the actors who have been released understand that, which is why you see Thaoo directing alot of jabs at Tomlin. It's clear who pushed for all this. I feel had for Corday because the reaction Thaoo described says it all. He hates that he had to do this and is probably ashamed.

While I do think Hogan liked Tony and Anna, I still think it was all Thaoo's idea and his mention of the "seeds being planted" suggests that to me. Hogan did nothing with LeAnn and Thaoo either. Once Andre died, Tony was barely on and we heard Tony and Anna left town. Once the strike began, they were brought back and went to work at ad agencies so Higley and the strike letters did make an attempt. They even tossed Kate in there with them but there was just so much upheaval in 2008 and Ed obviously wanted to use them too but once Tomlin came in, that was it. I think Tomlin is the one that put the kibosh on using them, not Higley.

I'm also a bit concerned about Thaoo being on some sort of secret ballot. JS said himself he did not submit so that took him out of the mix. JR had no business being on the ballot, at least not in lead, but neither did Thaoo. Yes, he had some work back in August that was great but that's it. I would hope PR gets a nod over him because Peter had far more material and I don't like the idea of this "secret ballot." I don't get that. Did he do that with help from some people at the show or did he do it behind everyone's backs? If he did, that just made him lose points with me. I know the show treated him like shit but this affects other cast members and I don't like things like that.

I'm glad Thaoo addressed alot of this and glad Leann was involved. It was an interesting read. I will miss them but I feel like they have already been gone for awhile.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, Mar 10 2009, 04:24 PM.
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KathyRon


I guess the thing that I find truly disappointing with this show is that it has become a show basically involving six characters and only those characters! :scared: Days use to have storylines that were umbrella storylines that intertwined with everyone! The first serial killer storyline. The Prism storyline. Aremid! I use to tivo or tape these shows everyday! Now, I basically read the days in advance previews to see if I'm going to see certain characters! With Steve & Kayla, John & Marlena , Tony & Stephano and Nick & Chelsea gone or on their way out, Bo & Hope sightings are the only time this show warrents my machines. Unfortunately, lately this show has been so cruel as to only give these two up to about 3-5 minutes of airtime on the ENTIRE show! :frustration: RIDICULOUS! However, like I said JMO! :shrug:
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Mar 10 2009, 02:06 PM
I guess if you call firing almost EVERYONE over 40 good for the show.....then you should be VERY happy! :redface: Days use to be about love, romance, angst and passion! Now you just have soft porn sex between hair model actors/actresses in elevators and on tables. Days use to be about building character's background and history. Now we have Melanie! :puke: Maybe those people who didn't watch Days in the late 70s, 80s and 90s should check out some of those tapes to see what GREAT WRITING REALLY did look like! :hail: I started watching in the 1995 and it was my appreciation of Days past, that makes me so sad to see what happening on Days today! :embarrassed: JMO :soapbox:
The girl who plays melanie wouldn't have ever gotten a soap job back in their heyday
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Mar 10 2009, 12:58 PM
Leann: "Those were the days when they knew how to write."
Ditto, Leann.
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IA with whoever said Tony should not have returned. But, since they went that route, I think the departure by death is...lame. It never frickin' sticks on this show, especially with this character. What the hell kind of weak-ass "dramatic" impact is that? Ooh- he's gone...again...if it's even him...

Again, though, since they went that route I think they should have tied Tony's death to John's paralysis & the feud between the Dimera brothers. EJ has been the one behind it all- plotting to bring in the random psychotic doctor, then taking out Tony, and now with whatever Stefano's health thing is. Gives EJ something to do, gives him an excuse for not noticing Nicole's fake pregnancy, incorporates the departures into an overarching storyline, makes Sami's Dimera fear more reasonable- I don't see a downside. Since this is a Dimera, once we learn what EJ has done, once they reveal it on screen they can brain-chip/evil twin it so the character is salvageable. Though at that point they'll have moved on to Sami/Rafe and Nicole/Brady so he won't be necessary.

At the very least they should have a funeral. A funeral is an Event. It's a great excuse to get characters together (better than everyone showing up at some random convent, imho), and it's perfect for a Reveal or a confrontation (since it's a stressful event). If Tony or "Tony" has to die, they might as well get as much mileage as they can from it.

Also- what's with the "hair model" thing? Hair models have to have a certain amount of skill (motor control to show off the hair properly, neck strength to hold up the head). And decent hair, one would think. Bad soap actors often have neither. Especially on Days where the stylists are very clearly pissed off about something.
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px780
Mar 10 2009, 07:51 PM
Also- what's with the "hair model" thing? Hair models have to have a certain amount of skill (motor control to show off the hair properly, neck strength to hold up the head). And decent hair, one would think. Bad soap actors often have neither. Especially on Days where the stylists are very clearly pissed off about something.
LMAO!
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Mar 10 2009, 04:21 PM
I'm also a bit concerned about Thaoo being on some sort of secret ballot. JS said himself he did not submit so that took him out of the mix. JR had no business being on the ballot, at least not in lead, but neither did Thaoo. Yes, he had some work back in August that was great but that's it. I would hope PR gets a nod over him because Peter had far more material and I don't like the idea of this "secret ballot." I don't get that. Did he do that with help from some people at the show or did he do it behind everyone's backs? If he did, that just made him lose points with me. I know the show treated him like shit but this affects other cast members and I don't like things like that.
I read that differently. To me, it sounds like the studio was pushing Reckell and Reynolds, but he was able to get a nod because the voting was by secret ballot.
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GET EM STEPH!!

granolagirl
Mar 11 2009, 12:25 AM
PhoenixRising05
Mar 10 2009, 04:21 PM
I'm also a bit concerned about Thaoo being on some sort of secret ballot. JS said himself he did not submit so that took him out of the mix. JR had no business being on the ballot, at least not in lead, but neither did Thaoo. Yes, he had some work back in August that was great but that's it. I would hope PR gets a nod over him because Peter had far more material and I don't like the idea of this "secret ballot." I don't get that. Did he do that with help from some people at the show or did he do it behind everyone's backs? If he did, that just made him lose points with me. I know the show treated him like shit but this affects other cast members and I don't like things like that.
I read that differently. To me, it sounds like the studio was pushing Reckell and Reynolds, but he was able to get a nod because the voting was by secret ballot.
We didn't read it differently. I said the same thing as you and I don't like it. Reynolds had no business being up either but neither did Thaoo, at least not in lead. Not this year. There isn't a justification for it like last year. I mean, it happens with alot of people on other shows but fair is fair and I will be upset if he gets in over Peter Reckell because Peter was a lead and I don't like Thaoo doing this in secret like this. It's almost like doing it to prove a point. It comes off cocky to me and I've never heard of someone doing what Thaoo did.
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None of it sounds underhanded, IMO. The actors put themselves forward for the category they think is appropriate, and then the decision is left up to a secret vote. Some campaigning and politicking is probably expected.

I can't be outraged about Thaao in particular, because I'd be disappointed to see anyone from Days nominated. Except maybe Arianne Zuker. Or maybe JKJ if he submitted some of the film noir. But overall, it was not a good year.
Edited by granolagirl, Mar 11 2009, 01:04 AM.
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Ellie


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Mar 11 2009, 12:51 AM
None of it sounds underhanded, IMO. The actors put themselves forward for the category they think is appropriate, and then the decision up to a secret vote.
Right. "Secret ballot" only refers to the fact that no one knows who voted for whom. I think Thaao was just trying to differentiate between whether the show or the actor himself submitted the name to be included in the voting.

This does a pretty good job explaining some of the process:

http://www.soapcentral.com/soapcentral/news/2009/0302-emmy_prenoms.php
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Thaao couldn't have gotten on the pre-nom ballot if others hadn't voted for him. I'm not saying he should be in lead (or on the ballot at all, since he pretty much did nothing last year), but it's unfair to put it all on him.
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GET EM STEPH!!

I think it's fair. He didn't have the material. JS, who was lead, pulled his name out because he felt his material was not worthy. Deidre Hall used to do the same.

I know about the process. The way it came off it seemed malicious to me.
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Well then, I guess it was malicious of everyone who voted for him too...
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I don't think that. I'm just saying Thaoo should've done the classy thing and, at the very least, submitted supporting. I mean, I don't blame anyone for voting for him once he submitted because he did have more award-worthy material then Jim Reynolds. At that point, it's more about the work then who it is. For me, if you factor in everything Thaoo has said, this all comes off as him trying to prove a point about himself. I know he was treated horribly but I see this as his way of taking a jab at the show by trying to get nomination. I just don't like it and he could've still gotten the message across by going supporting. This, to me, on his end, seemed a bit malicious.
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- Thaao said he told Ken Corday that he thought it was "hostile" that Tony had been killed so many times and that Anna was not there to support Tony. Thaao said Corday "just put his head down and didn't look at me".


Wow, Corday is a pussy and a piece of shit, I hate him. How can he do this to an actor that has always come back everytime Corday had gone down on his knees and begged him? I would think that they were friends, and maybe they still are, but Thaao is more forgiving than me...if someone fired me so many times for so-called "creative decisions", I would never talk to them again, EVER, and I would tell them to go to hell the next time they'd ask me to come back and save their sinking ship of a show!

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- Leann spoke about her favorite scene (of the current run, presumably): "when I came back last year and was wearing a green face mask." She was also asked about her first onscreen kiss: "It was about 25 years ago. I think it was when I drugged Thaao and married him and woke up with a smile on his face. Those were the days when they knew how to write."


You tell em Leann!

I'm glad Hogan recognized their existence, but he threw them under the bus sorta too...Anna's "one night stand" with Roman :puke: , finding the REAL Tony and not writing for them as a couple, what a total waste of both of their talents.

IF Thaao does ever come back, I hope Leann comes back too, so they could FINALLY get that front-burner SL that they deserved for the past two years.
Edited by Hoochie21, Apr 4 2009, 09:36 PM.
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