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DAYS:Spoilers for wk of June 15th; *UPDATED 6/13*
Topic Started: Jun 3 2009, 02:58 PM (12,763 Views)
lysie
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I totally expected it a baby to die. I just expected it to be Sydney and there to be a fight for Grace.
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lysie
Jun 5 2009, 12:45 PM
I totally expected it a baby to die. I just expected it to be Sydney and there to be a fight for Grace.
I actually wonder if, a few months back, the show tried to trick us into thinking that Sydney would die...in Feburary, she had those medical problems which sparked speculation about her dying...but she ended up fine and then everything went along as normal.
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Jun 5 2009, 12:49 PM
lysie
Jun 5 2009, 12:45 PM
I totally expected it a baby to die. I just expected it to be Sydney and there to be a fight for Grace.
I actually wonder if, a few months back, the show tried to trick us into thinking that Sydney would die...in Feburary, she had those medical problems which sparked speculation about her dying...but she ended up fine and then everything went along as normal.
That's a good point, especially since Sydney like Grace did not get the best care. I mean, Sami didn't get much medical care and that clinic was not the best so I do think the show may have been teasing it being Sydney that would have problems.

As I said, this whole story has been carefully planned. I mean, Grace has been having fevers since around the time of Nicole's wedding and they really built up all the other angles too. Sami and Rafe bonding with Grace, Mia's attachment to Grace, Will not loving her at first but growing to love her, etc. The show clearly was always going to go with this but I would not be surprised if they knowingly teased the audience a bit right off the bat.
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my spec now is that sami will find out that rafe is the one who gave stefano all his info on grace, the convent, etc. as rafe figured that stefano would work with nicole to keep ej from trying to get close with sami.
If the writers actually went to the trouble of giving an explanation for Stefano's knowledge of things, which they haven't so far and I'm not certain they ever will, I don't think it will have been Rafe that gave him the info that allowed Stefano to know.

More likely IMO is Stefano found something from some of his henchmen discovered from spying on/overhearing Nicole (I always thought Nicole was way too indiscreet about all of her schemes in front of those guys) or Dr. Baker told him or he somehow got a hold of Dr. Baker's letter to that other doctor or even some note was left by Tony.

I have heard the theory put forth that it would turn out that Rafe was some sort of DiMera double agent but I have no hope whatsoever that the character will actually be written that complex or interesting. I also think if he was smart/devious enough to hope that Nicole and Stefano would keep EJ turned away from Sami as he was THAT into Sami we would have seen him propose to Sami rather than just focus entirely on getting custody of Grace. I do think there could be some shady/weirdness in his background that could come out, I just don't think it's DiMera ties.
ITA Rafe wouldn't have pentrated the Dimansion as a cable guy if he was working for Stephano and remember how angry Steph and EJ were when they found out? And EJ brings it up every time he sees Rafe - more like archenemies with the Grace thing now...

Stephano had Nicole followed the day she got the news from Chloe that Sami was pregnant and at the convent....I think that may be when Stephano found out. And the request to have her followed was to one of his henchmen and there was a conversation about where she went and Stephano suggested the convent for Sydney's christening which rattled Nicole a little I think. I believe he's known for a while and definitely knew what Nicole was plotting before the marriage to EJ and Grace and Sydney were born...
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Manda1
Jun 5 2009, 01:24 PM
IMissAremid
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my spec now is that sami will find out that rafe is the one who gave stefano all his info on grace, the convent, etc. as rafe figured that stefano would work with nicole to keep ej from trying to get close with sami.
If the writers actually went to the trouble of giving an explanation for Stefano's knowledge of things, which they haven't so far and I'm not certain they ever will, I don't think it will have been Rafe that gave him the info that allowed Stefano to know.

More likely IMO is Stefano found something from some of his henchmen discovered from spying on/overhearing Nicole (I always thought Nicole was way too indiscreet about all of her schemes in front of those guys) or Dr. Baker told him or he somehow got a hold of Dr. Baker's letter to that other doctor or even some note was left by Tony.

I have heard the theory put forth that it would turn out that Rafe was some sort of DiMera double agent but I have no hope whatsoever that the character will actually be written that complex or interesting. I also think if he was smart/devious enough to hope that Nicole and Stefano would keep EJ turned away from Sami as he was THAT into Sami we would have seen him propose to Sami rather than just focus entirely on getting custody of Grace. I do think there could be some shady/weirdness in his background that could come out, I just don't think it's DiMera ties.
ITA Rafe wouldn't have pentrated the Dimansion as a cable guy if he was working for Stephano and remember how angry Steph and EJ were when they found out? And EJ brings it up every time he sees Rafe - more like archenemies with the Grace thing now...

Stephano had Nicole followed the day she got the news from Chloe that Sami was pregnant and at the convent....I think that may be when Stephano found out. And the request to have her followed was to one of his henchmen and there was a conversation about where she went and Stephano suggested the convent for Sydney's christening which rattled Nicole a little I think. I believe he's known for a while and definitely knew what Nicole was plotting before the marriage to EJ and Grace and Sydney were born...
I do agree that Stefano has known for a little while - but I'm not so sure it was actually before the wedding. I just can't see him standing quietly by and watching EJ marry her knowing full well there was no prenuptial agreement. And particularly given how angry Stefano was with her right before hand because of her statement regarding Tony's death. I have to think if he had known her secrets then he would have used it against her to either force her to say Philip intentionally murdered Tony or at the very least to stop the wedding or force a pre-nup.

My money is on Dr. Baker being his informant...but he didn't get the goods until right after the wedding. :shrug:
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I think Steffy could make it so that EJ ON PAPER doesn't have any money...or very little? I think from the days ahead talk with Nicole, he knew A LONG TIME AGO. I think about the time when Sami and Mia gave birth. Didnt he say that he was rooting for her at a point?
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Jun 5 2009, 02:57 PM
Didnt he say that he was rooting for her at a point?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did. That to me was an implication he had known for a while. I don't know if the writers didn't spell it out because they didn't want to bother with trying to create a plausible chronology or if there's some reveal-related reason they don't want to say when Stefano figured it out. But, I don't think it's been super recently that he put two and two together. I think he offered her a drink at one point when she was pretending to be pregnant, so he may have had suspicions that far back. When he was poking at her about having the christening at the convent, I wondered why he didn't tell EJ whatever his suspicions were--I don't think he's ever done that. Someone can correct me if that's wrong.
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Let me see. Steffy offered her that drink at the same time that they brought in the specialist to see if there was anything wrong with the baby or her. It was also the day that Rafe broke into the D-Mansion. I think that's early December?

I dont think they want us to know exactly when, because maybe the actions already presented on screen wouldnt make sense with when is knew.

Or Maybe Steffy will reveal everything, (i.e. the timeline, when he knew,) when he tells EJ.

I dont think that Steffy has ever brought up anything other then the "covent of the Holy Cross" and he also said that Nicole was a born schemer and didnt trust her. But he's been dropping hints like that for a while.

I can't wait for Steffy to "spin" the truth about everything. I like him back to his arrogant self- scheming ways. Poor Nicole, she's in for it. There's going to be a breaking point for her. All the guilt of not telling Mia, EJ and now Steffy breathing down her neck. YIKES!
Liz
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Liz<3Days
Jun 5 2009, 02:57 PM
I think Steffy could make it so that EJ ON PAPER doesn't have any money...or very little? I think from the days ahead talk with Nicole, he knew A LONG TIME AGO. I think about the time when Sami and Mia gave birth. Didnt he say that he was rooting for her at a point?
Liz
Ahhh...you're right. I had forgotten about that.

Good point that I suppose Stefano could arrange it to appear that EJ has very little of his own money. No doubt at the very least he could protect the majority of the DiMera assets. Perhaps all that is at stake are EJ's earnings from the law firm. Assuming he does still work for Mickey. :rolleyes:

Or it could also play out that when the :shithitfan: Stefano will be aligned with Nicole at that point (assuming EJ will be furious with the both of them) and won't care if Nicole takes threatens to take EJ for every dime he has, in an attempt to prevent EJ from filing for divorce.
Edited by SocRMum1, Jun 5 2009, 03:42 PM.
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^ Yep....could happen that way.

Also, Steffy says that it would be hard for EJ to win custody because of what Nicole did. (I personally would see it as joint custody since Sami also kept secrets from him...but...whatever?) I think he'll keep quiet as long as he has to.

Nicole also knows a lot of D-secrets, so she has a couple of outs. Not many, but there's the fact that she knows about the kidnapping. And she could always turn against the DiMeras...I recall a rumor about Hope helping her out? (I wouldnt want this option.)

I think I like the option that I have read in rumors? spoilers?...Steffy tells EJ that he has his daughter. EJ uses the info to punish Sami and tries to get full custody of Johnny. He doesnt tell her about Sydney. Nicole is being punished by Steffy because he going to tighten the screws everytime they talk...DAYS LOVES repetitive conversations. Then we have Nicole secretly helping Sami out with Johnny. (Some of this is pure speculation.)

I'm glad this is still going to be the major SL for summer...god...I know I only can take the teens in short scenes (HINT DAYS!!!)
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Jun 3 2009, 03:28 PM
What is Arianna doing at the Kiriakis mansion?

Why would Brady be laying into Nicole? He doesn't know about the baby switch does he?

Why would Bo be laying into Rafe? You know I guess it doesn't really matter because I'm sure I'll enjoy it regardless.
i think arianna might be there looking for brady. i heard a rumor that they may be a couple sometime but idk if thats true or when it would happen. and brady would be there cause he gets un-disowned? if thats a word.

who knows who else knows about the babyswitch. stefano knows and has known practically the whole time

bo may be laying into rafe the same way that arianna is. she is concerned for her brother and bo is probably concerned for sami, she is his neice. but maybe it has something to do with him being a construction worker, or something about his past and doesnt want him near sami and her kids?
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I think that maybe Bo is upset with Rafe about trying to adopt Grace b/c/ he is undercover with either the Salem PD or the Feds. Remember, Bo didn't want to hire Rafe on the Salem PD-- but maybe that was just a cover so they could actually hire him to spy on the Dimeras.
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CDN TV Guide spoilers

Monday
Rafe tells Arianna surprising news; Will reacts to the twist of events; Victor tells Philip that the DiMeras are ready to end the feud.

Tuesday
The Kiriakis and DiMera families call a truce; Stephanie has a startling vision; Max offers Melanie a chance to move to London.

Wednesday
Kate plots revenge against Daniel and Chloe; Chloe makes a confession to Father Matt; Stephanie finds out Philip is hiding from her.

Thursday
Will turns his back on a friend; Kinsey tells Mia of an old friend from Salem West; Maggie introduces Melanie to her grandson.

Friday
EJ serves Sami with papers; Bo gives Rafe an earful; Mia returns to work.
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Jun 5 2009, 12:49 PM
lysie
Jun 5 2009, 12:45 PM
I totally expected it a baby to die. I just expected it to be Sydney and there to be a fight for Grace.
I actually wonder if, a few months back, the show tried to trick us into thinking that Sydney would die...in Feburary, she had those medical problems which sparked speculation about her dying...but she ended up fine and then everything went along as normal.
Yep..exactly.When they did that with Sydney,,I knew the other would be the one to die,and when Grace started getting fevers,,I knew the jig was up..guess I have watched wayyy too long...
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Jun 6 2009, 02:51 PM
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Jun 5 2009, 12:49 PM
lysie
Jun 5 2009, 12:45 PM
I totally expected it a baby to die. I just expected it to be Sydney and there to be a fight for Grace.
I actually wonder if, a few months back, the show tried to trick us into thinking that Sydney would die...in Feburary, she had those medical problems which sparked speculation about her dying...but she ended up fine and then everything went along as normal.
Yep..exactly.When they did that with Sydney,,I knew the other would be the one to die,and when Grace started getting fevers,,I knew the jig was up..guess I have watched wayyy too long...
Oh, I guess I should have clarified. From the beginning, I expected a baby to die, and I figured it would be Sami's biological baby. Then there would be a custody battle for Mia's. Once Grace started having fevers, it was kind of obvious that she was the one who would die. Of course, there were some people who up until a month ago were still swearing up and down that there was no way Days was going to kill either baby, lol.
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Jun 5 2009, 02:57 PM
I think Steffy could make it so that EJ ON PAPER doesn't have any money...or very little? I think from the days ahead talk with Nicole, he knew A LONG TIME AGO. I think about the time when Sami and Mia gave birth. Didnt he say that he was rooting for her at a point?
Liz
he said "there was a time" he was rooting for her. He didn't tell her when it was. He did say he'd known for months but that is typical Stefano...he may have or he may of just found out but he wouldn't tell Nicole that. He'd want her to be worried and as you said, coming up with a date would make the writers actually have to work so that it all made sense. :laugh:

And I agree that he could fix things so that EJ's money was protected in the event of a divorce, but in addition, he could just as easily fix Sydney's custody IMO This is a guy after all able to fix the outcome of murder trials and get out of his own kidnapping and murder charges etc, so the idea that Stefano is worried Sami will automatically win sole custody of Sydney is ridiculous to me.
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Bacterial meningitis is not preceded by a series of low grade fevers, so congrats to the crackerjack research team at Dool. Nothing, but nothing will ever top the stupidity of Kate getting a bone marrow transplant for lung cancer (wtf?) from a eradiated cancer survivor. These writers are the worst hacks. Just google something if you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Even a first grader knows this. As to Zacks death, I found it painful and hard to watch, but very well acted. In order to make up for Hope losing Zack, she got Ciara to soothe the viewers, but as we all remember Zack seemed an integral part of Bo and Hope's life in those days, and Ciara is really just a prop if you ask me, to reinforce the fact that the marriage survived the horrible tragedy of Chelsea running over Zack and killing him accidentally. Anyway, I for one take no pleasure in any of this children/custody/who's the daddy crap, and wish everybody would just use birth control because there is not a character on the show that should be allowed to reproduce. Whatever happened to Stephano's obsession that E.J. and Sammi marry and reproduce at all costs? He just dropped it like a hot potato, like so many other things that are forgotten on a whim. Like the investigation into who hired the hit man to kill Sammi. Why no follow up on Stephano's involvement. At least Bo and Roman used to bemoan their lack of evidence when it came to nailing Stephano. Now they don't even recognize a crime when they see one. We know you have the guy who shot the mayor, but who hired him? A question not worthy of exploration it seems.
p.s. I liked it better when Stephanie was in the morgue drawer. that whole s/l was so bad it was cringeworthy and funny at the same time. Philip leaping out of the adjoining "suite", to do battle was something I will never forget. It's almost as if he had two legs!
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My bad, I just took my own advice and googled bacterial meningitis in infants. While, there would not be the long history of low grade fevers, she would be fussy, uncomfortable, etc. which was where they were going with Sammi always aying she thought she was teething. In fact, infants don't often get the fever until it is too late. Which is what they are going for. Sick bastards.
Anyway, my apologies on being a snoot.
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Jun 3 2009, 11:07 PM
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Jun 3 2009, 11:02 PM
If Days is going off the air, why are they hiring new people and firing old favorites????
Who says they are going off the air? The show is in much better shape now then it was a year ago, most notably in the financial area of things. That is why they got rid of vets. They cost too much and you can only cut salaries so much. It's much more cost effective to get rid of some of them entirely and hire cheaper actors to come on. In many cases, the salary of one vet is worth like 3 newcomers. Not to mention, bringing on new characters is easier on the writers. Some of the vets were in the same stories over and over and that was not all on the writing team. That is all some of the fanbases wanted. The show no longer feels held back now.

So many keep assuming 2010 is the end, just like so many thought 2009 would be the end. If the show could survive the last few contract negotiations, it can survive the next. Let's remember there is a one year option for the show that NBC can pick up to that is built into the contract. Given the current state of things and how popular Days is a brand, it's in fine shape to remain on past 2010 IMO.
Excuse me, I thought te show was going off the air. I had seen it written many times on some of the boards so I assumed it was. I have watched from day one and I love the show. It is the only soap opera daytime that I watch. So naturally Iwas upset when all the boards kept on writing it was going off. Then Marlena and JOhn got fired, Kayla and Patch left, etc., so I was surprised with the new actors. Of course I know one vet is worth 3-4 newcomers in salary, I am not stupid, but just thought it was unnecessary.

I rarely post to the boards, most of the time when I do someone finds fault with what I am trying to say! So,I do know what assume is: ass-u-me.
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my spec now is that sami will find out that rafe is the one who gave stefano all his info on grace, the convent, etc. as rafe figured that stefano would work with nicole to keep ej from trying to get close with sami.
If the writers actually went to the trouble of giving an explanation for Stefano's knowledge of things, which they haven't so far and I'm not certain they ever will, I don't think it will have been Rafe that gave him the info that allowed Stefano to know.

More likely IMO is Stefano found something from some of his henchmen discovered from spying on/overhearing Nicole (I always thought Nicole was way too indiscreet about all of her schemes in front of those guys) or Dr. Baker told him or he somehow got a hold of Dr. Baker's letter to that other doctor or even some note was left by Tony.

I have heard the theory put forth that it would turn out that Rafe was some sort of DiMera double agent but I have no hope whatsoever that the character will actually be written that complex or interesting. I also think if he was smart/devious enough to hope that Nicole and Stefano would keep EJ turned away from Sami as he was THAT into Sami we would have seen him propose to Sami rather than just focus entirely on getting custody of Grace. I do think there could be some shady/weirdness in his background that could come out, I just don't think it's DiMera ties.
Wouldn't it be funny if RAfe was really a DiMera?
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