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DAYS:Spoilers for wk of June 22nd; *UPDATED 6/20**
Topic Started: Jun 9 2009, 10:06 PM (17,277 Views)
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Daniel *is* kind of a man whore... he does get around. He came into town a year ago, hooked up with Kate, then hooked up with Chelsea, who he totally would have banged if she didn't find out about him already getting it on with Grandma, then WENT BACK with Kate, and then started the whole thing with Chloe, who was already taken by HIS ex's son. Sounds pretty man-whorish to me... Just sayin'... I mean, if he'd been on the show for like, five years, it wouldn't even be so bad. Even three years... but one....

I don't think EJ is a man-whore at all. A prick, maybe... obsessive, okay. But I still love him =)


Kind of? as in half a manwhore? LOL
Okay, but he still only "got around" 2 times. I agree that the Grandaughter/grandma stuff tainted his character a little, but that's not the worst thing that a male character on a soap has ever done.

Sorry, I love EJ too, but I still think he can be categorized as a manwhore. For god sakes! He impregnated 2 woman at the same time.
Edited by lily20, Jun 15 2009, 02:31 AM.
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ginababe
Jun 15 2009, 01:35 AM
oh and phillip, he has slept w/ belle, chloe, stefanie, morgan.. anyone else? Like mother like sons.
I agree with you. Philip and Lucas are sluts like Kate!, LOL
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Jun 15 2009, 02:35 AM
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Jun 15 2009, 01:35 AM
oh and phillip, he has slept w/ belle, chloe, stefanie, morgan.. anyone else? Like mother like sons.
I agree with you. Philip and Lucas are sluts like Kate!, LOL
Forgot to add, Philip also slept with melanie.
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lily20
Jun 15 2009, 02:39 AM
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Jun 15 2009, 02:35 AM
ginababe
Jun 15 2009, 01:35 AM
oh and phillip, he has slept w/ belle, chloe, stefanie, morgan.. anyone else? Like mother like sons.
I agree with you. Philip and Lucas are sluts like Kate!, LOL
Forgot to add, Philip also slept with melanie.
Wait what? I think I totally missed that episode...
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littlemony
Jun 15 2009, 02:49 AM
lily20
Jun 15 2009, 02:39 AM
lily20
Jun 15 2009, 02:35 AM
ginababe
Jun 15 2009, 01:35 AM
oh and phillip, he has slept w/ belle, chloe, stefanie, morgan.. anyone else? Like mother like sons.
I agree with you. Philip and Lucas are sluts like Kate!, LOL
Forgot to add, Philip also slept with melanie.
Wait what? I think I totally missed that episode...
I looked it up on youtube and turns out I was wrong. He didn't go all the way with Melanie, sorry! my bad.
He went to her hotel room and she tried to seduce him. I must've fallen asleep when that happened.

I don't recall him doing the nasty with Morgan though.......
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Jun 15 2009, 01:33 AM
Well, I guess it is sort of easy to be considered a "man whore" considering the ratio of women to men.. EJ has only slept w/ Sami, Nicole and Kate. Daniel has only slept w/ Chloe and Kate, he never slept w/ Chelsea. Lucas has slept w/ Sami, Carrie, Chloe, a few stragglers whom i can not remember their names, if anyone is the man whore, it's Lucas, he certainly takes the cake in terms of numbers of women he has taken to bed.
Um. . but somehow you have conviently forgotten that LUCAS has a 16 year history on this show!!! So yeah, we do know more about the women he's slept with. . .EJ has only been on for three years, and Daniel just over a year. If you take it on an ANNUAL basis, Daniel gets around more.
Yeah, if you're gonna do comparisons of who's slept around. . you probably need to even the playing field a little. Didn't EJ say last year that he had "lots of lovers" before he met Sami? When he was talking about his life in Europe.
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Jun 15 2009, 03:32 AM
ginababe
Jun 15 2009, 01:33 AM
Well, I guess it is sort of easy to be considered a "man whore" considering the ratio of women to men.. EJ has only slept w/ Sami, Nicole and Kate. Daniel has only slept w/ Chloe and Kate, he never slept w/ Chelsea. Lucas has slept w/ Sami, Carrie, Chloe, a few stragglers whom i can not remember their names, if anyone is the man whore, it's Lucas, he certainly takes the cake in terms of numbers of women he has taken to bed.
Um. . but somehow you have conviently forgotten that LUCAS has a 16 year history on this show!!! So yeah, we do know more about the women he's slept with. . .EJ has only been on for three years, and Daniel just over a year. If you take it on an ANNUAL basis, Daniel gets around more.
Yeah, if you're gonna do comparisons of who's slept around. . you probably need to even the playing field a little. Didn't EJ say last year that he had "lots of lovers" before he met Sami? When he was talking about his life in Europe.
I am commenting on what I have seen ONSCREEN.. so whatever happened off screen, I cannot account for.
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Exactly. . you have 16 years of seeing what Lucas has been doing ONSCREEN. You are basing your assessment on only 3 years of EJ and 1 year of Daniel. There's no comparison --- but I'm not gonna argue logic or facts or any sort of neutral comparisons. :blink: If we are only basing what is seen only ONSCREEN as an arguement, then Sami never "loved" EJ since we never saw her say it or indicate it. And EJ must've been a virgin when he came to Salem, since there were only three women he has bedded since he got there???
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Philip never slept with Morgan. And for a guy who's spent most of his SORASed life in Salem and about whose history we know a lot, I'd hardly call him a manwhore. He's slept with Belle, Chloe and Stephanie that we know of, and he was married to Belle previously and is engaged to Stephanie. Not exactly a playboy, though that's actually how I'd prefer him.

Is there a link to BD saying he'd like a gay storyline? Where did this come from?
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Jun 10 2009, 09:54 PM
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Jun 10 2009, 03:29 PM
I think those who are wondering if Rafe will hook up with Nicole are just fans of Sami with another male trying to get her away from Rafe...But I keep saying that Rafe has no money and luxorius lifestyle...Philip has and Brady has - those are the only two men really in the running for Nicole's 'affections' if things don't work out with EJ. IMO
You can think whatever you want, but just because someone comments on a couple of opposite-sex characters sharing a lot of scenes together and wondering if the writers have something more in store doesn't mean there is some other agenda at work. It just means we're commenting on the show. As much as I can't stand Nicole right now I still don't think I'd want to punish her with a relationship with boring ass Rafe.

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I am a Safe fan because I am a Sami fan. Never heard of Galen before the rumour started that he was seen on the Days lot. Sami needs the love of a good man and some tough yet tender treatment. To date Rafe has been giving that to her, she is dysfunctional and is used to being abused and hurt hence her going to EJ to get verbally beat up. I think this should been seen as Sami behaving like a drug addict [we know the drug is bad] needing a fix - and of course EJ didn't dissapoint.


So are you claiming that people who are fans of other pairings for Sami are not Sami fans? :eyeroll:

Sami needs a lot of things, but before this whole thing with Grace unfolded what she needed was definitely not something Rafe was able to give her. What she needed was a big dose of reality and swift kick in the head so she could understand what she was doing keeping EJ's kid a secret from him and letting another man adopt her was not only wrong, but inevitably going to fail. She needed a truthteller like Will was to her, but after that talk with him when Will finally seemed to knock some sense into her instead of backing up that positive advice Rafe encouraged and enabled her delusion that they could play house with another man's child in a bizarre and frankly weird manner where this boyfriend of about a week Salem time was ready to make a lifelong commitment to Sami's daughter yet totally unwilling to make a commitment to her and totally unwilling to accept the commonsense objections and concerns about the adoption of people like Will, Caroline, Roman, Arianna, etc...

I am glad that not only is EJ reading her the riot act for what she's done, but also Will is not going to put up with what Sami has needlessly put him through in denying him the knowledge that he had (has) another biological sister out there and lying to another man about another one of her pregnancy's after doing the same thing with Will has caused his life so much chaos over the years. It was straight up cruel what Sami did manipulating Will into feeling guilty for even questioning her when he started prodding her if there was more than met the eye to Grace's adoption.

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I disliked Ejami up until today because of the rape - now after today's and what will be tomorrows scenes I just think they are way too and dysfunctional and need to be keep apart in any romantic way. yuck. When he serves the papers on her at the furneral I would like to say it is putting another nail in the ejami coffin but I think the coffin is going down into the ground this week. This is just my opionion but I think that James and Ali may secretly hate the ejami story and both want to move away from it. I'm sure James must be annoyed because he can never move on from being a 'rapist' if he is in a relationship with his 'victim' [and I can't believe James likes that] At least with Nicole he's just a villian. And despite the re-write Ali knows the orginal script and scenes were written as rape, she probably thinks no stinking way would she be in a permanent relationship with a perpretrator. [there have been enough articles were she talks about the 'most difficult and devisive' storyline in all her years on the show. She has two young tots and probably doesn't want to deal with all that drama and negative energy from disgruntled fans that comes her way from her character setting up home with her sex offender. So I expect these scenes are going to be really brutal and cruel with a view to [James and Ali] killing ejami - this is just my opinion of course I have no insider info. Ali blogged yesterday and again talks about how she has so much fun working with Galen. And I have to be pleased for her that she is having fun at work. I think that is so important.


I can't speak with any more insight than you of the personal feelings of the actors involved in this storyline (so *I* won't even try to speculate) but as for both of the actors secretly wanting to "kill" EJami... if James was so intent to see EJami killed I kind of doubt he would have participated in a chat with EJami fans last week.

And if Ali blogs about how much fun she has working with Galen (who I understand is her friend outside of work) that's great. I don't know why anyone would assume from that though that automatically means she has a horrible time working with James (or Bryan for that matter). Ali is and always has been a champion of the show and talks it up no matter what.
I agree with some of your post. I hope they don't punish Nicole by putting her with Rafe - she should stay with her husband EJ. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am not suggesting for a minute that fans of Sami and another paring are not Sami fans. I am simply responding to the fact that I am a sami fan to counteract the assumption that most Safe fans are Rafe fans primarily as was aluded to by an earlier post.

I am glad that Sami has Rafe in her corner however it has always been Sami's secret to tell about Grace and she would have told EJ at his wedding had not the news about the hit on Philip stopped her in her tracks. Even when Rafe was leaving he said it wasn't because of her deciding to tell EJ or not.etc. Rafe has consistently said he doesn't want her to change and to date we have not seen him try to get her to change. He always says 'He just wants her to think' before acting.

Even when they got back to the townhouse he supported her decision to tell EJ there were no accusations or hints or comments from him that she did the wrong thing - just support - which is what the poor grieving mother needs right now.

I don't actually think Rafe adopting Grace made sense either, and I don't agree it was the right thing as we know that EJ would not have been a dead beat dad to Grace had he known. The idea and actions are totally out of order i.e illegal birth docs etc! I can only see it as an obvious plot point to raise the stakes between Sami, Rafe and EJ as the spoilers about EJ making a deadly threat against Rafe would seem over the top otherwise.

I did not say that I thought Ali and James disliked working together - I think the rapist label must be annoying to him [which is why they tried to 'resolve' it as 'not being quite like that' last year] - I'm sure that James and maybe even Ali 'enjoyed' the meaty story and script IN 2006!!!!!! :lol: But I have read comments from James that he doesn't want to be that evil, and the fact that the rapist label has stuck on to his character for so long....is 2009 almost 3-years later....Ali's comments on twitter, and her pictures on facebook demonstrate that she loves James. Bryan, Galen and Eric as she often makes cute comments about each of them.

As for James chatting to EJami fans why wouldn't he the pairing is EJ - ami his character is in there. I'm sure he'd do Ejole too if asked nicely by Ari :lol: Don't you remember the fabulous Ejole article in the Valentine edition of SOD? James made some very flattering comments about Ari. The man is obviously a sweetie pie.

Anyways Sami Loves Rafe so much! And he loves her too. And the great thing is we don't actually have to argue about that as we've heard them both say it in today's US show! In contrast to that EJ has said to Sami. Nicole and I think he'll tell Stephano too that he hates Sami and is ashamed of ever loving her, he hopes she suffers for the rest of her life etc. And we know from the promo that she isn't going to know what hit her on Weds! So on with the show! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Thanks Angie
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ginababe
Jun 15 2009, 04:18 AM
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Jun 15 2009, 03:42 AM
Exactly. . you have 16 years of seeing what Lucas has been doing ONSCREEN. You are basing your assessment on only 3 years of EJ and 1 year of Daniel. There's no comparison --- but I'm not gonna argue logic or facts or any sort of neutral comparisons. :blink: If we are only basing what is seen only ONSCREEN as an arguement, then Sami never "loved" EJ since we never saw her say it or indicate it. And EJ must've been a virgin when he came to Salem, since there were only three women he has bedded since he got there???
OMG! Calm down please. Frankly, it's not even about Lucas, I was just using him as an example, WOW! Step back and take a breather before you have an aneurysm.
Hmmm. . .Everything I'm saying is logical, rational and calm. No anyeurisms here! Defensive much? I find it funny when people freak out when faced with LOGIC and REASON. They go on the attack.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

Manda1
Jun 15 2009, 09:11 AM


Anyways Sami Loves Rafe so much! And he loves her too. And the great thing is we don't actually have to argue about that as we've heard them both say it in today's US show! In contrast to that EJ has said to Sami. Nicole and I think he'll tell Stephano too that he hates Sami and is ashamed of ever loving her, he hopes she suffers for the rest of her life etc. And we know from the promo that she isn't going to know what hit her on Weds! So on with the show! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
You know, that's the thing about the great, soapy, angsty love stories that hook the audience just about every time. EJ and Sami are grieving, they are hurting and they are both lashing out. They are passionate characters - as evidenced by the sparks flying in their scenes last week. Whether they are fighting or making love - they are passionate when it comes to one another.

Many of the most united couples in soaps have gone through periods where the declared their hatred for one another. Look at Bope - they had a similar sad and frustating storyline after Zach's death. Anger, guilt, betrayal and interlopers nearly tore them apart for good. The operative word being 'nearly'.

The fact that EJ is now saying he hates Sami, regrets loving her, etc. is simply this phase of the story. It's a very fine line between love and hate - and given the nasty, painful revelation he's just received I completely understand that he's feeling hateful. But I have no doubt it won't last. Regardless of everything that's ever happened between them, EJ has never been able to control the love he has for Sami. He had no intention of falling in love with her to start with - it just happened. And there have been many times that it would have been far easier for him to just cut her out of his heart - but he hasn't. Even now, he's admitting to Nicole that he still loved Sami when he married her. His current anger and hatred will subside because ultimately, deep down inside Sami is the true love of his life.
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I love the way you think, Soccer Mom.
For me personally, I don't really want to see a baby's funeral, or a mother served with custody papers at said funeral. So, I think I'll take a couple of days off.

on another note~ I don't want to hear the show cry poverty as an excuse for firing people. Unless all these new additions are working for minimum wage, they are full of shit. ^o)
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I'm sure I've missed some, but here's a list of who's done whom, as best as I can remember. :-)

Alice Horton
1. Tom Horton

Maggie Horton
1. Mickey Horton
2. Neil Curtis

Caroline Brady
1. Shawn Brady
2. Victor Kiriakis

Stephanie Johnson
1. Max Brady
2. Philip Kiriakis

Chelsea Brady
1. Max Brady
2. Nick Fallon

Abe Carver
1. Faye Walker
2. Lexie Carver

Brady Black
1. Chloe Lane
2. Nicole Walker

Lexie Carver
1. Abe Carver
2. Brandon Walker
3. Tek Kramer

Max Brady
1. Chelsea Brady
2. Stephanie Johnson
3. Numerous others, we're told

Mickey Horton
1. Linda Phillips
2. Laura Spencer
3. Maggie Simmons
4. Bonnie Lockhart

Hope Brady
1. Bo Brady
2. John Black (when brainwashed)
3. Stefano DiMera (when brainwashed)
4. Patrick Lockhart

Philip Kiriakis
1. Chloe Lane
2. Belle Black
3. Stephanie Johnson
4. Others, we're told

E.J. DiMera
1. Kate Roberts
2. Sami Brady
3. Nicole Walker
4. Others, we're told

Chloe Horton
1. Philip Kiriakis
2. Brady Black
3. Lucas Horton
4. Daniel Jonas

Roman Brady
1. Anna Brady
2. Marlena Evans
3. Billie Reed
4. Kate Roberts
5. Nicole Walker (maybe; remember her exit scene?)

Sami Brady
1. Austin Reed
2. Lucas Horton
3. Franco Kelly
4. Brandon Walker
5. E.J. DiMera
6. Rafe Hernandez

Kate Roberts
1. Curtis Brown/Reed
2. Bill Horton
3. Victor Kiriakis
4. Mr. Moroni (?) in Italy
5. E.J. DiMera
6. Daniel Jonas
7. Numerous others, we're told

Lucas Horton
1. Cherish
2. Sami Brady
3. Nicole Walker
4. Sophie, the Asian girl
5. The young nurse
6. Carrie Reed
7. Chloe Black
8. Numerous others, we're told

Bo Brady
1. Older woman (we were told a few years ago)
2. Megan Hathaway
3. Britta Englund
4. Hope Welch
5. Emmy Borden
6. Carly Manning
7. Billie Reed
8. Princess Gina

Stefano DiMera
1. Daphne DiMera
2. Lee Dumonde
3. Megan's Mother
4. May Chin
5. Ellen Hawk
6. Celeste Perrault
7. Princess Gina
8. Susan Banks
9. Vivian Alamain

. . . and the biggest slut of all . . .

Victor Kiriakis
1. Caroline Brady
2. Loretta Toscano
3. Kimberly Brady
4. Anjelica Deveraux
5. Yvette Dupres
6. Kristina Andropoulos
7. Serena Colville
8. Kate Roberts
9. Vivian Alamain
10. Nicole Walker












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Dr. Chip
Jun 15 2009, 01:58 PM
Max Brady
1. Chelsea Brady
Seeing it like that . . . just so, so wrong.

Great post, Dr. Chip! Victor really needs to stop calling other people sluts, doesn't he?
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Manda - EJ could beat the shit out of Sami, torture her, waterboard her, steal her kids, speak of his intense hatred of her, etc. etc...and for some, it will always mean he is her true love. Just gotta accept it. ;)
However, the second Lucas calls Sami "a lying, cheating whore", it was the final nail in the Lumi coffin...even if he was speaking the truth. LOL!
Welcome to fanbases!
**and by the by, I am not opposed to fanbases. I think they provide much entertainment now that I understand how they work.

And awesome post, Dr.Chip! I always knew that Vic was the man! Dr. Dan has some catching up to do to reign as town slut!
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

Kate Roberts
1. Curtis Brown/Reed
2. Bill Horton
3. Victor Kiriakis
4. Mr. Moroni (?) in Italy
5. E.J. DiMera
6. Daniel Jonas
7. Numerous others, we're told

You forgot John Black, Nicholas Alamain, that Vitali dude, Stefano Dimera, Roman Brady and Andre DiMera (at least I think that's what Kate did in the back of that limo where she had to roll down the window and fix her skirt after getting out).

I think Kate's title as biggest slut in Salem is safe!

This game is fun though...

Marlena
1. John Black
2. Roman Brady
3. Alex North
4. Don Craig
5. The Devil

John Black
1. Marlena Evans
2. Kate Roberts
3. Hope Brady
4. Gina von Amburg
5. Isabella Black
6. Kristen DiMera
7. Susan Banks

Did he ever sleep with Diana, Rebecca or Yvette DuPres?
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Actually, did Victor and Vivian ever actually do anything? Did it ever go that far? I'm not certain.

However, at least three of Victor's bed partners were married "ladies" -- Caroline, Loretta, and Anjelica.
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Jun 15 2009, 12:20 PM
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Jun 15 2009, 09:11 AM


Anyways Sami Loves Rafe so much! And he loves her too. And the great thing is we don't actually have to argue about that as we've heard them both say it in today's US show! In contrast to that EJ has said to Sami. Nicole and I think he'll tell Stephano too that he hates Sami and is ashamed of ever loving her, he hopes she suffers for the rest of her life etc. And we know from the promo that she isn't going to know what hit her on Weds! So on with the show! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
You know, that's the thing about the great, soapy, angsty love stories that hook the audience just about every time. EJ and Sami are grieving, they are hurting and they are both lashing out. They are passionate characters - as evidenced by the sparks flying in their scenes last week. Whether they are fighting or making love - they are passionate when it comes to one another.

Many of the most united couples in soaps have gone through periods where the declared their hatred for one another. Look at Bope - they had a similar sad and frustating storyline after Zach's death. Anger, guilt, betrayal and interlopers nearly tore them apart for good. The operative word being 'nearly'.

The fact that EJ is now saying he hates Sami, regrets loving her, etc. is simply this phase of the story. It's a very fine line between love and hate - and given the nasty, painful revelation he's just received I completely understand that he's feeling hateful. But I have no doubt it won't last. Regardless of everything that's ever happened between them, EJ has never been able to control the love he has for Sami. He had no intention of falling in love with her to start with - it just happened. And there have been many times that it would have been far easier for him to just cut her out of his heart - but he hasn't. Even now, he's admitting to Nicole that he still loved Sami when he married her. His current anger and hatred will subside because ultimately, deep down inside Sami is the true love of his life.
It's not impossible that EJ may come around one day and say that Sami is the love of his life but Sami loves Rafe and is totally into him. The hospital scenes demonstrated how Sami was different with EJ all the touching was EJ stroking Sami's shoulder etc. She did not reach out to EJ at all. As soon as Rafe came she was in his arms, holding his hand continuously and naturally. That is Sami in love.

EJ is coming after her with a vengance and the spoilers say she'll give as good as she gets. If Rafe's character became all abusive and said terrible things to her like EJ has done I wouldn't root for them either. Bo and Hope love each other they have said it a million times and show it in a million ways. I have not heard or seen that from Ejami. So I don't think of them as similar at all.

Sami is so kind and generous with her affections with Rafe. I didn't see her like that with EJ even when they were married, she only showed any kind of 'interest' in him when Nicole came on the scene, and then it wasn't very lasting which is why EJ moved on with Nicole.
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