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| DAYS:Spoilers for wk of June 22nd; *UPDATED 6/20** | |
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| lily20 | Jun 15 2009, 02:30 AM Post #121 |
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Kind of? as in half a manwhore? LOL Okay, but he still only "got around" 2 times. I agree that the Grandaughter/grandma stuff tainted his character a little, but that's not the worst thing that a male character on a soap has ever done. Sorry, I love EJ too, but I still think he can be categorized as a manwhore. For god sakes! He impregnated 2 woman at the same time. Edited by lily20, Jun 15 2009, 02:31 AM.
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| lily20 | Jun 15 2009, 02:35 AM Post #122 |
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I agree with you. Philip and Lucas are sluts like Kate!, LOL |
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| lily20 | Jun 15 2009, 02:39 AM Post #123 |
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Forgot to add, Philip also slept with melanie. |
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| littlemony | Jun 15 2009, 02:49 AM Post #124 |
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Queen of the Underground
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Wait what? I think I totally missed that episode... |
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| lily20 | Jun 15 2009, 03:00 AM Post #125 |
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I looked it up on youtube and turns out I was wrong. He didn't go all the way with Melanie, sorry! my bad. He went to her hotel room and she tried to seduce him. I must've fallen asleep when that happened. I don't recall him doing the nasty with Morgan though....... |
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| SaveDaysNow | Jun 15 2009, 03:32 AM Post #126 |
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Um. . but somehow you have conviently forgotten that LUCAS has a 16 year history on this show!!! So yeah, we do know more about the women he's slept with. . .EJ has only been on for three years, and Daniel just over a year. If you take it on an ANNUAL basis, Daniel gets around more. Yeah, if you're gonna do comparisons of who's slept around. . you probably need to even the playing field a little. Didn't EJ say last year that he had "lots of lovers" before he met Sami? When he was talking about his life in Europe. |
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| ginababe | Jun 15 2009, 03:36 AM Post #127 |
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I am commenting on what I have seen ONSCREEN.. so whatever happened off screen, I cannot account for. |
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| SaveDaysNow | Jun 15 2009, 03:42 AM Post #128 |
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Exactly. . you have 16 years of seeing what Lucas has been doing ONSCREEN. You are basing your assessment on only 3 years of EJ and 1 year of Daniel. There's no comparison --- but I'm not gonna argue logic or facts or any sort of neutral comparisons. :blink: If we are only basing what is seen only ONSCREEN as an arguement, then Sami never "loved" EJ since we never saw her say it or indicate it. And EJ must've been a virgin when he came to Salem, since there were only three women he has bedded since he got there???
Edited by SaveDaysNow, Jun 15 2009, 03:46 AM.
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| Paxton | Jun 15 2009, 07:51 AM Post #129 |
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Philip never slept with Morgan. And for a guy who's spent most of his SORASed life in Salem and about whose history we know a lot, I'd hardly call him a manwhore. He's slept with Belle, Chloe and Stephanie that we know of, and he was married to Belle previously and is engaged to Stephanie. Not exactly a playboy, though that's actually how I'd prefer him. Is there a link to BD saying he'd like a gay storyline? Where did this come from? |
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| Manda1 | Jun 15 2009, 09:11 AM Post #130 |
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I agree with some of your post. I hope they don't punish Nicole by putting her with Rafe - she should stay with her husband EJ. :lol: :lol: :lol: I am not suggesting for a minute that fans of Sami and another paring are not Sami fans. I am simply responding to the fact that I am a sami fan to counteract the assumption that most Safe fans are Rafe fans primarily as was aluded to by an earlier post. I am glad that Sami has Rafe in her corner however it has always been Sami's secret to tell about Grace and she would have told EJ at his wedding had not the news about the hit on Philip stopped her in her tracks. Even when Rafe was leaving he said it wasn't because of her deciding to tell EJ or not.etc. Rafe has consistently said he doesn't want her to change and to date we have not seen him try to get her to change. He always says 'He just wants her to think' before acting. Even when they got back to the townhouse he supported her decision to tell EJ there were no accusations or hints or comments from him that she did the wrong thing - just support - which is what the poor grieving mother needs right now. I don't actually think Rafe adopting Grace made sense either, and I don't agree it was the right thing as we know that EJ would not have been a dead beat dad to Grace had he known. The idea and actions are totally out of order i.e illegal birth docs etc! I can only see it as an obvious plot point to raise the stakes between Sami, Rafe and EJ as the spoilers about EJ making a deadly threat against Rafe would seem over the top otherwise. I did not say that I thought Ali and James disliked working together - I think the rapist label must be annoying to him [which is why they tried to 'resolve' it as 'not being quite like that' last year] - I'm sure that James and maybe even Ali 'enjoyed' the meaty story and script IN 2006!!!!!! :lol: But I have read comments from James that he doesn't want to be that evil, and the fact that the rapist label has stuck on to his character for so long....is 2009 almost 3-years later....Ali's comments on twitter, and her pictures on facebook demonstrate that she loves James. Bryan, Galen and Eric as she often makes cute comments about each of them. As for James chatting to EJami fans why wouldn't he the pairing is EJ - ami his character is in there. I'm sure he'd do Ejole too if asked nicely by Ari :lol: Don't you remember the fabulous Ejole article in the Valentine edition of SOD? James made some very flattering comments about Ari. The man is obviously a sweetie pie. Anyways Sami Loves Rafe so much! And he loves her too. And the great thing is we don't actually have to argue about that as we've heard them both say it in today's US show! In contrast to that EJ has said to Sami. Nicole and I think he'll tell Stephano too that he hates Sami and is ashamed of ever loving her, he hopes she suffers for the rest of her life etc. And we know from the promo that she isn't going to know what hit her on Weds! So on with the show! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: |
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| Dorothy595 | Jun 15 2009, 10:37 AM Post #131 |
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Thanks Angie |
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| SaveDaysNow | Jun 15 2009, 12:01 PM Post #132 |
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Hmmm. . .Everything I'm saying is logical, rational and calm. No anyeurisms here! Defensive much? I find it funny when people freak out when faced with LOGIC and REASON. They go on the attack. Edited by SaveDaysNow, Jun 15 2009, 12:05 PM.
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| SocRMum1 | Jun 15 2009, 12:20 PM Post #133 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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You know, that's the thing about the great, soapy, angsty love stories that hook the audience just about every time. EJ and Sami are grieving, they are hurting and they are both lashing out. They are passionate characters - as evidenced by the sparks flying in their scenes last week. Whether they are fighting or making love - they are passionate when it comes to one another. Many of the most united couples in soaps have gone through periods where the declared their hatred for one another. Look at Bope - they had a similar sad and frustating storyline after Zach's death. Anger, guilt, betrayal and interlopers nearly tore them apart for good. The operative word being 'nearly'. The fact that EJ is now saying he hates Sami, regrets loving her, etc. is simply this phase of the story. It's a very fine line between love and hate - and given the nasty, painful revelation he's just received I completely understand that he's feeling hateful. But I have no doubt it won't last. Regardless of everything that's ever happened between them, EJ has never been able to control the love he has for Sami. He had no intention of falling in love with her to start with - it just happened. And there have been many times that it would have been far easier for him to just cut her out of his heart - but he hasn't. Even now, he's admitting to Nicole that he still loved Sami when he married her. His current anger and hatred will subside because ultimately, deep down inside Sami is the true love of his life. |
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| ges | Jun 15 2009, 12:52 PM Post #134 |
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I love the way you think, Soccer Mom. For me personally, I don't really want to see a baby's funeral, or a mother served with custody papers at said funeral. So, I think I'll take a couple of days off. on another note~ I don't want to hear the show cry poverty as an excuse for firing people. Unless all these new additions are working for minimum wage, they are full of shit. ^o) |
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| Dr. Chip | Jun 15 2009, 01:58 PM Post #135 |
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I'm sure I've missed some, but here's a list of who's done whom, as best as I can remember. :-) Alice Horton 1. Tom Horton Maggie Horton 1. Mickey Horton 2. Neil Curtis Caroline Brady 1. Shawn Brady 2. Victor Kiriakis Stephanie Johnson 1. Max Brady 2. Philip Kiriakis Chelsea Brady 1. Max Brady 2. Nick Fallon Abe Carver 1. Faye Walker 2. Lexie Carver Brady Black 1. Chloe Lane 2. Nicole Walker Lexie Carver 1. Abe Carver 2. Brandon Walker 3. Tek Kramer Max Brady 1. Chelsea Brady 2. Stephanie Johnson 3. Numerous others, we're told Mickey Horton 1. Linda Phillips 2. Laura Spencer 3. Maggie Simmons 4. Bonnie Lockhart Hope Brady 1. Bo Brady 2. John Black (when brainwashed) 3. Stefano DiMera (when brainwashed) 4. Patrick Lockhart Philip Kiriakis 1. Chloe Lane 2. Belle Black 3. Stephanie Johnson 4. Others, we're told E.J. DiMera 1. Kate Roberts 2. Sami Brady 3. Nicole Walker 4. Others, we're told Chloe Horton 1. Philip Kiriakis 2. Brady Black 3. Lucas Horton 4. Daniel Jonas Roman Brady 1. Anna Brady 2. Marlena Evans 3. Billie Reed 4. Kate Roberts 5. Nicole Walker (maybe; remember her exit scene?) Sami Brady 1. Austin Reed 2. Lucas Horton 3. Franco Kelly 4. Brandon Walker 5. E.J. DiMera 6. Rafe Hernandez Kate Roberts 1. Curtis Brown/Reed 2. Bill Horton 3. Victor Kiriakis 4. Mr. Moroni (?) in Italy 5. E.J. DiMera 6. Daniel Jonas 7. Numerous others, we're told Lucas Horton 1. Cherish 2. Sami Brady 3. Nicole Walker 4. Sophie, the Asian girl 5. The young nurse 6. Carrie Reed 7. Chloe Black 8. Numerous others, we're told Bo Brady 1. Older woman (we were told a few years ago) 2. Megan Hathaway 3. Britta Englund 4. Hope Welch 5. Emmy Borden 6. Carly Manning 7. Billie Reed 8. Princess Gina Stefano DiMera 1. Daphne DiMera 2. Lee Dumonde 3. Megan's Mother 4. May Chin 5. Ellen Hawk 6. Celeste Perrault 7. Princess Gina 8. Susan Banks 9. Vivian Alamain . . . and the biggest slut of all . . . Victor Kiriakis 1. Caroline Brady 2. Loretta Toscano 3. Kimberly Brady 4. Anjelica Deveraux 5. Yvette Dupres 6. Kristina Andropoulos 7. Serena Colville 8. Kate Roberts 9. Vivian Alamain 10. Nicole Walker |
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| Paxton | Jun 15 2009, 02:06 PM Post #136 |
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Seeing it like that . . . just so, so wrong. Great post, Dr. Chip! Victor really needs to stop calling other people sluts, doesn't he? |
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| Alligato | Jun 15 2009, 02:07 PM Post #137 |
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Manda - EJ could beat the shit out of Sami, torture her, waterboard her, steal her kids, speak of his intense hatred of her, etc. etc...and for some, it will always mean he is her true love. Just gotta accept it. ;) However, the second Lucas calls Sami "a lying, cheating whore", it was the final nail in the Lumi coffin...even if he was speaking the truth. LOL! Welcome to fanbases! **and by the by, I am not opposed to fanbases. I think they provide much entertainment now that I understand how they work. And awesome post, Dr.Chip! I always knew that Vic was the man! Dr. Dan has some catching up to do to reign as town slut! |
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| IMissAremid | Jun 15 2009, 02:18 PM Post #138 |
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After all... tomorrow is another day!
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Kate Roberts 1. Curtis Brown/Reed 2. Bill Horton 3. Victor Kiriakis 4. Mr. Moroni (?) in Italy 5. E.J. DiMera 6. Daniel Jonas 7. Numerous others, we're told You forgot John Black, Nicholas Alamain, that Vitali dude, Stefano Dimera, Roman Brady and Andre DiMera (at least I think that's what Kate did in the back of that limo where she had to roll down the window and fix her skirt after getting out). I think Kate's title as biggest slut in Salem is safe! This game is fun though... Marlena 1. John Black 2. Roman Brady 3. Alex North 4. Don Craig 5. The Devil John Black 1. Marlena Evans 2. Kate Roberts 3. Hope Brady 4. Gina von Amburg 5. Isabella Black 6. Kristen DiMera 7. Susan Banks Did he ever sleep with Diana, Rebecca or Yvette DuPres? |
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| Dr. Chip | Jun 15 2009, 02:18 PM Post #139 |
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Actually, did Victor and Vivian ever actually do anything? Did it ever go that far? I'm not certain. However, at least three of Victor's bed partners were married "ladies" -- Caroline, Loretta, and Anjelica. |
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| Manda1 | Jun 15 2009, 02:19 PM Post #140 |
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It's not impossible that EJ may come around one day and say that Sami is the love of his life but Sami loves Rafe and is totally into him. The hospital scenes demonstrated how Sami was different with EJ all the touching was EJ stroking Sami's shoulder etc. She did not reach out to EJ at all. As soon as Rafe came she was in his arms, holding his hand continuously and naturally. That is Sami in love. EJ is coming after her with a vengance and the spoilers say she'll give as good as she gets. If Rafe's character became all abusive and said terrible things to her like EJ has done I wouldn't root for them either. Bo and Hope love each other they have said it a million times and show it in a million ways. I have not heard or seen that from Ejami. So I don't think of them as similar at all. Sami is so kind and generous with her affections with Rafe. I didn't see her like that with EJ even when they were married, she only showed any kind of 'interest' in him when Nicole came on the scene, and then it wasn't very lasting which is why EJ moved on with Nicole. |
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