SOW: EJ Sues Sami for Custody of Johnny

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SOW: EJ Sues Sami for Custody of Johnny; June 23rd issue; Article Summary
Topic Started: Jun 10 2009, 09:46 AM (3,726 Views)
PhoenixRising05	Jun 10 2009, 11:14 AM Post #16
CARLY'S BACK!! Posts: 12,585 Group: Veteran Member #82 Joined: June 14, 2007 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of our Lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Days of our Lives Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera ER Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Melrose Place Current Soap Rankings 1.) OLTL, 2.) DAYS, 3.) GH, 4.) ATWT, 5.) GL , 6.) Y&R, 7.) B&B , 8.) AMC	This sounds very good and I look forward to the scenes. James and Ali will really bring it with this material and so should Ari. Normally, I would bash the hell out of EJ for serving Sami with papers at the funeral but I can understand his motivation. He's hurt and taking out on her and being driven by his anger. Neither he nor Sami is in their right mind right now. Raw emotion is driving all of this and that is what makes it compelling. As for Ari giving the interview, it's likely she was the only one around. AS and JS always seem to talk when available.



IMissAremid	Jun 10 2009, 11:17 AM Post #17
After all... tomorrow is another day! Posts: 7,238 Group: Veteran Member #20 Joined: June 13, 2007 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of our Lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time 1. DAYS 2. Y&R 3. PASSIONS 4. AW 5. OLTL 6. GH 7. AMC 8. B&B Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera Big Brother Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Dynasty - Beverly Hills, 90210 - Soap	luvpumpkns Jun 10 2009, 11:00 AM i'm glad he sues for custody. honestly, if i put myself in ej's place, i would do the same. maybe it's a cruel thing to do at a time like this, but i can definitely understand his anger, and his wanting to punish sami for lying about grace by taking johnny. and really, the fact that she was planning on letting rafe adopt grace just makes what ej is doing that much more justified. can you imagine what sami would do if ej took her child without her knowledge and let nicole adopt it? it's just insane how sami can't seem to put herself in another person's shoes. it was the same thing with her justifications for lying to ej about grace. it always boggled my mind that it never occured to sami that her own children could have been taken from her based on the awful things she has done in her life(some of them to will, even). so her using the excuse that ej and stefano were 'bad people' never flew with me at all. EXACTLY. EJ is doing the logical thing here. And as AS pointed out in that other article, Sami wanted EJ to hate her. Well, this is a consequence of Sami wanting EJ to hate her. He now has no qualms about seeing that their son is in his full custody. And I understand that AZ obviously sympathizes with her character and everything, but all of this stuff about Nicole's guilt just makes me roll my eyes because I'm sorry but I don't feel bad for Nicole at all if she has to feel guilty about all the awful things she's done.



SocRMum1	Jun 10 2009, 11:45 AM Post #18
Now that Sydney is home I'm dreaming sweet EJami dreams... Posts: 1,684 Group: Elite Member Member #603 Joined: December 6, 2007 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of Our Lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Days of Our Lives Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Knots Landing	IMissAremid Jun 10 2009, 11:17 AM luvpumpkns Jun 10 2009, 11:00 AM i'm glad he sues for custody. honestly, if i put myself in ej's place, i would do the same. maybe it's a cruel thing to do at a time like this, but i can definitely understand his anger, and his wanting to punish sami for lying about grace by taking johnny. and really, the fact that she was planning on letting rafe adopt grace just makes what ej is doing that much more justified. can you imagine what sami would do if ej took her child without her knowledge and let nicole adopt it? it's just insane how sami can't seem to put herself in another person's shoes. it was the same thing with her justifications for lying to ej about grace. it always boggled my mind that it never occured to sami that her own children could have been taken from her based on the awful things she has done in her life(some of them to will, even). so her using the excuse that ej and stefano were 'bad people' never flew with me at all. EXACTLY. EJ is doing the logical thing here. And as AS pointed out in that other article, Sami wanted EJ to hate her. Well, this is a consequence of Sami wanting EJ to hate her. He now has no qualms about seeing that their son is in his full custody. And I understand that AZ obviously sympathizes with her character and everything, but all of this stuff about Nicole's guilt just makes me roll my eyes because I'm sorry but I don't feel bad for Nicole at all if she has to feel guilty about all the awful things she's done. I totally agree. As much as I like Ari Zucker and think her performance as Nicole is outstanding - I am having a hard time maintaining any real sympathy for the character. Ultimately, she can wallow in guilt - but she wouldn't have to if she'd simply tell the truth. Yeah...it sucks to be her at the moment, but something tells me she's not suffering anywhere near as much as Sami or EJ are. And she has the power to stop it, but won't.



aimees76	Jun 10 2009, 12:35 PM Post #19
Posts: 1,037 Group: Elite Member Member #593 Joined: December 6, 2007	See, and thats so funny because I can't seem to muster up any sympathy for EJ. Huh. :P Edited by aimees76, Jun 10 2009, 12:36 PM.



lysie	Jun 10 2009, 12:38 PM Post #20
Posts: 1,833 Group: Elite Member Member #4,604 Joined: May 20, 2009	aimees76 Jun 10 2009, 12:35 PM See, and thats so funny because I can't seem to muster up any sympathy for EJ. Huh. :P I can't either. As a matter of fact, I despise him more by the day. I think I might have sympathized with him at one point, but that's long gone.



SocRMum1	Jun 10 2009, 12:40 PM Post #21
Now that Sydney is home I'm dreaming sweet EJami dreams... Posts: 1,684 Group: Elite Member Member #603 Joined: December 6, 2007 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of Our Lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Days of Our Lives Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Knots Landing	aimees76 Jun 10 2009, 12:35 PM See, and thats so funny because I can't seem to muster up any sympathy for EJ. Huh. :P Seriously? I mean, I know you're not a fan of the character...but you honestly don't feel he was a victim in this? I feel for both EJ and Sami in this whole mess, even though they've both acted like tools at one time or another. But I definitely see them as the ultimate victims to Nicole's manipulation.



Faye	Jun 10 2009, 12:43 PM Post #22
Posts: 321 Group: Members Member #3,471 Joined: February 8, 2009 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of our lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Days of our lives, TYATR & Dallas Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera Desperate Housewives Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Friends Current Soap Rankings 1. DOOL 2. TYATR 3. Dallas	luvpumpkns Jun 10 2009, 11:00 AM totally agree. As much as I like Ari Zucker and think her performance as Nicole is outstanding - I am having a hard time maintaining any real sympathy for the character. [Nicole is genuinely grieving and feels guilty cause of the things she's done - I am a Nicole fan, yes, but she has to face the consequences. EJ and Sami have rights to be angry at her etc. But lets not forget that there's Sami. The woman who also lied and kept things from EJ. She would've not told EJ the truth, if Grace would still be alive, so that's about the honesty. Back to my point, how can you not feel any sympathy for Nicole, if you feel it for Sami? Sami also did horrible things, but it seems, imo, that you talk about them, well you don't even mention them, it's like no big deal! When Sami does something, people just overlook it, but when Nicole ''the bad girl'' does something, it's huuge!! ' And really, when Sami told EJ the truth, she blamed it all on Nicole! Typical Sami! Nothing's ever her fault! Nicole took Sydney, BUT not telling EJ the truth, that was Sami's OWN decision. No one else's! Both of them did wrong. Period. Edited by Faye, Jun 10 2009, 12:44 PM.



six	Jun 10 2009, 12:45 PM Post #23
Posts: 1,338 Group: Elite Member Member #1,842 Joined: February 12, 2008	IMissAremid Jun 10 2009, 11:17 AM luvpumpkns Jun 10 2009, 11:00 AM i'm glad he sues for custody. honestly, if i put myself in ej's place, i would do the same. maybe it's a cruel thing to do at a time like this, but i can definitely understand his anger, and his wanting to punish sami for lying about grace by taking johnny. and really, the fact that she was planning on letting rafe adopt grace just makes what ej is doing that much more justified. can you imagine what sami would do if ej took her child without her knowledge and let nicole adopt it? it's just insane how sami can't seem to put herself in another person's shoes. it was the same thing with her justifications for lying to ej about grace. it always boggled my mind that it never occured to sami that her own children could have been taken from her based on the awful things she has done in her life(some of them to will, even). so her using the excuse that ej and stefano were 'bad people' never flew with me at all. EXACTLY. EJ is doing the logical thing here. And as AS pointed out in that other article, Sami wanted EJ to hate her. Well, this is a consequence of Sami wanting EJ to hate her. He now has no qualms about seeing that their son is in his full custody. And I understand that AZ obviously sympathizes with her character and everything, but all of this stuff about Nicole's guilt just makes me roll my eyes because I'm sorry but I don't feel bad for Nicole at all if she has to feel guilty about all the awful things she's done. Yea, one thing I'll give AZ credit for is that she definitely works hard for her character in these articles, but Nicole doesn't get any sympathy for me, either. This might be the story of three flawed people, but Nicole should feel guilty for setting this all in motion. She's not the one who's losing out here, and she's not feeling guilty enough to give up Sydney, so if anything, she should feel worse than she does. Why should anyone feel sympathetic toward Nicole? She's even said herself that she has everything she wanted. She might feel guilty, and as well she should. She is a criminal, after all. Edited by six, Jun 10 2009, 12:47 PM.



Faye	Jun 10 2009, 12:47 PM Post #24
Posts: 321 Group: Members Member #3,471 Joined: February 8, 2009 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of our lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Days of our lives, TYATR & Dallas Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera Desperate Housewives Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Friends Current Soap Rankings 1. DOOL 2. TYATR 3. Dallas	SocRMum1 Jun 10 2009, 12:40 PM I feel for both EJ and Sami in this whole mess, even though they've both acted like tools at one time or another. But I definitely see them as the ultimate victims to Nicole's manipulation. You think that it was Nicole who manipulated Sami into lying to EJ? :blink:



lysie	Jun 10 2009, 12:51 PM Post #25
Posts: 1,833 Group: Elite Member Member #4,604 Joined: May 20, 2009	SocRMum1 Jun 10 2009, 12:40 PM aimees76 Jun 10 2009, 12:35 PM See, and thats so funny because I can't seem to muster up any sympathy for EJ. Huh. :P Seriously? I mean, I know you're not a fan of the character...but you honestly don't feel he was a victim in this? I feel for both EJ and Sami in this whole mess, even though they've both acted like tools at one time or another. But I definitely see them as the ultimate victims to Nicole's manipulation. He's not a sympathetic victim. And if he weren't such a tool in the first place, maybe people wouldn't feel the need to lie to him about such important things. I just can't take his pompous attitude much longer. I'm ready for him to take after Stefano and start dying every other year.



SocRMum1	Jun 10 2009, 12:58 PM Post #26
Now that Sydney is home I'm dreaming sweet EJami dreams... Posts: 1,684 Group: Elite Member Member #603 Joined: December 6, 2007 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of Our Lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Days of Our Lives Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Knots Landing	Faye Jun 10 2009, 12:47 PM SocRMum1 Jun 10 2009, 12:40 PM I feel for both EJ and Sami in this whole mess, even though they've both acted like tools at one time or another. But I definitely see them as the ultimate victims to Nicole's manipulation. You think that it was Nicole who manipulated Sami into lying to EJ? :blink: No - not at all. Sami owns that completely. But Nicole has manipulated the situation so that we now have two people broken hearted and grieving for a baby that wasn't theirs. Not to mention Mia - who is grieving for a baby she doesn't know was hers. My point was simply that while Nicole is on her knees in the chapel begging God to punish her and not Grace it fell flat - because she surely doesn't mean it. If she did, she'd step forward and be honest about Sydney's parentage.



Faye	Jun 10 2009, 01:02 PM Post #27
Posts: 321 Group: Members Member #3,471 Joined: February 8, 2009 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of our lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Days of our lives, TYATR & Dallas Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera Desperate Housewives Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Friends Current Soap Rankings 1. DOOL 2. TYATR 3. Dallas	SocRMum1 Jun 10 2009, 12:58 PM Faye Jun 10 2009, 12:47 PM SocRMum1 Jun 10 2009, 12:40 PM I feel for both EJ and Sami in this whole mess, even though they've both acted like tools at one time or another. But I definitely see them as the ultimate victims to Nicole's manipulation. You think that it was Nicole who manipulated Sami into lying to EJ? :blink: No - not at all. Sami owns that completely. But Nicole has manipulated the situation so that we now have two people broken hearted and grieving for a baby that wasn't theirs. Not to mention Mia - who is grieving for a baby she doesn't know was hers. My point was simply that while Nicole is on her knees in the chapel begging God to punish her and not Grace it fell flat - because she surely doesn't mean it. If she did, she'd step forward and be honest about Sydney's parentage. Okay I misunderstood that :) I also think that it's about time for Nicole to tell the truth.



Ponz	Jun 10 2009, 01:03 PM Post #28
Posts: 805 Group: Elite Member Member #54 Joined: June 14, 2007	SocRMum1 Jun 10 2009, 12:40 PM aimees76 Jun 10 2009, 12:35 PM See, and thats so funny because I can't seem to muster up any sympathy for EJ. Huh. :P Seriously? I mean, I know you're not a fan of the character...but you honestly don't feel he was a victim in this? The fact that he's a murdering torturing rapist might have something to do with it.



michelle	Jun 10 2009, 01:03 PM Post #29
Posts: 336 Group: Members Member #4,219 Joined: April 3, 2009 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days of our Lives	EJ is certainly NOT the only asshole here. Please. This town is full of them. I love Sami but she could have at least told him prior to her death. Edited by michelle, Jun 10 2009, 01:05 PM.



aimees76	Jun 10 2009, 01:06 PM Post #30
Posts: 1,037 Group: Elite Member Member #593 Joined: December 6, 2007	Ponz Jun 10 2009, 01:03 PM SocRMum1 Jun 10 2009, 12:40 PM aimees76 Jun 10 2009, 12:35 PM See, and thats so funny because I can't seem to muster up any sympathy for EJ. Huh. :P Seriously? I mean, I know you're not a fan of the character...but you honestly don't feel he was a victim in this? The fact that he's a murdering torturing rapist might have something to do with it. diing ding ding And we have a winner!



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