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Big Brother 11: General Discussion; JORDAN WINS $500,000!
Topic Started: Jun 30 2009, 09:21 PM (89,274 Views)
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Big Brother: Can Nice Girls Finish First?

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The credo of Big Brother is “expect the unexpected,” but even bearing that in mind, who could have seen this coming? If, at any point in the season, you had said that Jordan, the unassuming waitress from North Carolina, was going to win it all, they would have put you in a padded cell with Chima.

With all of the dominating and polarizing personalities, with all its rants and raves, threats and theatrics, watching Jordan glide through those final rounds was like watching a bunny take down a pride of lions, without ever getting her fur dirty. Big Brother is supposed to be about ruthless gameplay and out of nowhere comes an underestimated, aww-shucks beauty who seemingly kills off her housemates with kindness.

“It’s a good feeling, it really is,” said producer Allison Grodner after the show. “I like all types of people to win this game, as all types have. But it’s really hard to find people like Jordan these days, people who are so genuinely nice and she did win when she needed to win.”

Most everyone can agree, it wasn’t the strongest player or the most dynamic personality that won. It was the Southern belle who knew when to keep her head down and when to rise to the occasion. Unless of course, you’re Russell. “I think, in this season, you were better off being stupid, and un-athletic, as well as having an I.Q. under ten,” he told PEOPLE after the show. “And you would probably get to the final three. I think it’s bull–, and its a travesty that the wrong person won.”

Purist may agree that Russell has a point and others may say that he’s still sore about getting knocked out after not finding a “Laura” banana.

But then again, Jordan didn’t rely entirely on the kindness of strangers. The 22-year-old was able to win when it counted most, taking the final HOH with a big assist from Lady Luck.

“Holy crap, I didn’t even know the answer to that,” she said of the tiebreak question that ultimately sent Kevin out of the money, and into the Jury. “That was a guess, I figured it was halfway to something.”

During the final eviction ceremony, even Kevin, who had worked so hard, and come so tantalizingly close to the money, couldn’t bear to hold a grudge. “Who doesn’t like Jordan?” he said, still shaking of the events of the evening. “She is exactly how she is probably portrayed by the producers and I knew when she stood up that she had picked Natalie over me, I just keep telling myself that the five-hundred thousand isn’t real.”

Natalie, who says that she “didn’t come into the house for second place,” can ease her pain with the knowledge that she has a wedding to plan. “I’m so excited,” she said later, “I have a wedding to pay for. I’m grateful for the fifty grand, but it’s going to go quick!”

But in the end, it was America’s favorite player that may have walked with the best prize of all. Jeff was reflective before walking off the BB lawn for the last (for now) time. “I came here with nothing,” he told PEOPLE, “and I got this great experience. I have some money in my pocket, a trip to Hawaii, and no matter what happens, I got a friend for life in Jordan.”

Tell us: Are you happy Jordan won? Do you think she and Jeff have a shot? Who should come back to Big Brother?

www.people.com
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Julie should ALWAYS be pregnant!
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Kenny
Sep 16 2009, 11:06 AM
With all of the dominating and polarizing personalities, with all its rants and raves, threats and theatrics, watching Jordan glide through those final rounds was like watching a bunny take down a pride of lions, without ever getting her fur dirty.

“I think, in this season, you were better off being stupid, and un-athletic, as well as having an I.Q. under ten,” he told PEOPLE after the show. “And you would probably get to the final three. I think it’s bull–, and its a travesty that the wrong person won.”
LoL @ the first paragraph.

Meanwhile, Russell is a bitter asshole. Not even Natalie is as beaten up over Jordan's win as he is!

I think he's just embarrassed that he voted for the wrong person...
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From the wrap party...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/casual1/chimarussell.jpg

More pictures from Lydia's Twitter...

http://twitpic.com/hx485

http://twitpic.com/hx4ed

http://twitpic.com/hx4uw

http://twitpic.com/hx4wm

http://twitpic.com/hwzgo
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LoL @ Shannon Elizabeth getting Derek Hough hooked on BB.

Derek Hough DWTS

1. So far Ronnie , chima , Russel , Cassie , Laura and Braden are here at the after party ..weird seeing them ..28 minutes ago from Tweetie

2. Shannon got me into it ..about 1 hour ago from Tweetie

3. Wahooooooooooooooo!!!!! Jordan won .. Thank the lord .. Who would had ever thought ..about 2 hours ago from Tweetie

4. Going to watch the final of big brother tonight ..about 5 hours ago from Tweetie
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jamesrhine - We made some ridiculous video in the BB House. Watch Kaysar get evicted for a 4th time. Posting tomorrow - less than a minute ago from UberTwitter

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I guess the Final 3 didn't go to the wrap party last night because they were being debriefed by producers. When Jeff found out Jordan couldn't go, he didn't go either.

Meanwhile, Michele is on Twitter! :)

http://twitter.com/neurodork
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Russell needs to get over it. Big Brother is not just a strategical game it's also a social game. Jordan played a great social game.
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Russell's just bitter because he voted personally and it didn't work. Oh yeah, he said he voted for who he thought was the better competitor, but personally, I think that was a crock of shit. I believe he just wanted to get back at Jordan for the shitty way his last week in the house went. I don't believe for a minute that he actually thought Natalie, of all people, deserved to win.
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Inside Dish: The Big Brother Finale Edition is up.

Link here!

http://www.theinsider.com/obsessions/Inside_Dish_with_Ross_Mathews
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darraholic
Sep 16 2009, 11:49 AM
Russell needs to get over it. Big Brother is not just a strategical game it's also a social game. Jordan played a great social game.
Agreed! I'm so proud of Jordan for playing such a great social game and winning in the end when it mattered most.
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Natalie is having a live chat on Fancast.com soon. Link here.
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Great ending to a pretty blah to bad season.

Thank God Natalie did not win! What a bitch!

Ronnie was gagsville as usual.

Laura love.

Jeff cracked me up.

Julie Chen looked awful...

I think those are all my thoughts. LOL.
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If I were voting on gameplay, I would vote Natalie. I am a big fan of the "voting on gameplay vs. challenges vs. social" debate.

HOWEVER.

There is no way in hell, I would ever, EVER vote for Natalie to win over Jordan. EVER. In fact, when putting my key in, I would have said "Jordan, you're a great girl who played a worse game than Natalie. Natalie, you're an awful person who played the game awfully...but better than Jordan." And I'd lock in my vote for Jordo. Natalie is the worst player since Cappy for me. God. Or Sheila. HATE THEM ALL!
Edited by King, Sep 16 2009, 12:45 PM.
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Here's a transcript from Jordan's chat...

JORDAN: I'm here, y'all!!!

JORDAN: WOW...I'M SPEECHLESS. Thanks to all the fans and people who rooted for me. It really means a lot!!


[Comment From Jim in NYC]
Hi Jordan - 1st, you might be the most adorable player in BB history. 2nd, how much of the goofy blonde was real and how much an act?

JORDAN: Probably 90% real (goofy)...10% fake (act) :)

[Comment From Jim in NYC]
Jordan, what was the moment in the game where you thought - I could really win this? Or did you ever think that?

JORDAN: No, I really never thought I could win. But, I always stayed positive and kept my head up and hoped things would go my way!

[Comment From Joan]
Great job Jordan!!! Awesome picture. You two are so cute together.

JORDAN: Ok...I knew I could really trust Jeff after the whole fight with him and Russell and technotronics...everyone in the house ignored him except for me. Everyone tried to make him a bad person when he wasn't, that's when I realized he was really a good person b/c he was being attacked and we would talk at night in the Splish-Splash room and I knew he was someone I could align with and trust...b/c I saw the real him and everyone else was just being fake.

[Comment From demi]
Have you spoke with Natalie and is she bitter?

JORDAN: I have spoke with Natalie...she's not bitter. She's happy she won $50,000.

[Comment From Natalie#1Fan!]
Congrats Jordan! I'm glad a girl won! Were you shocked to get avote from Jesse?

JORDAN: I was VERY shocked. I always thought his vote would go to Natalie b/c we were never on the same alliance. But, when he said Hakuma Matata (spelling?)...he was telling me no worries...and then I had hope that I might have his vote!

[Comment From Jennifer]
What made you decide to take Natalie instead of Kevin to the final two?

JORDAN: I knew I would lose against Kevin for sure. And, with Natalie, I felt it was a 50/50 shot.

[Comment From Gary]
From your perspective, was Natalie controlling Kevin or was Kevin controlling Natalie?

JORDAN: I think they were both playing each other and both liars with one another. They were like brother and sister!

[Comment From lindakm]
What did you think about all of Natalie's lies? Did it shock you?

JORDAN: Oh....yeah...I was very blinded by her lies/innocence!!

[Comment From Susanne]
Were you surprised that so many jury members had turned against Natalie?

JORDAN: I was SHOCKED. I thought I would come in second place with either Natalie or Kevin b/c I thought all their friends were in the jury.

[Comment From Jimmie]
You and Jeff were the most real and genuine people to play the game. Do you think that helped you? Why was Lydia so bitter and then gave you a vote anyway?

JORDAN: Part one...yes, of course...I think that's why we got along so well. We both played with heart. I think Lydia really doesn't like Natalie b/c of Jessie and that's why I got her vote.

[Comment From paul]
Are you going to the party in Las Vegas?

JORDAN: Still deciding...miss home.

[Comment From Miranda]
Are you shocked by the extreme popularity of Jeff or were you expecting it?

JORDAN: I expected it b/c he was a real person, was never fake, loyal, sweet, caring, funny, outgoing, etc., etc. So, I knew he'd be very popular!

[Comment From Darby]
Do you think getting Russell out hurt Jeff in the game and you convinced him that Nat and Kevin NEVER have lied?

JORDAN: Well, no...because I still think Russell was coming out for Jeff.

[Comment From Judy]
I'm sure you've heard how true Michele was to you. Does that change your feelings toward her now?

JORDAN: No...everyone was mean to her in the game except me and I truly like her and think she's a sweet person.

[Comment From demi]
Who did you not care for the most in the house and why?

JORDAN: Jessie, Chima and Russell (a little). I thought they all had attitudes and could talk down to people and thought they ran the house...Jessie more than the others cause he was self-absorbed, liked to look at himself, flex and loved it when he was the center of attention...he acted like he was better than everyone! BTW, I have to go in 2 minutes!

Fancast Moderator: Final Question for Jordan...

[Comment From Joey]
what advice would you give to someone who would like to participate in BB 12?

JORDAN: Don't trust anyone, you need patience, self-control and a thick skin. THANKS...I LOVE Y'ALL AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT...IT REALLY MEANS A LOT AND FEELS GOOD TO KNOW PEOPLE WERE ROOTIN' FOR ME...AND THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE THE REAL ME!! Y'ALL ARE SO GUCCI! HAVE A GREAT DAY!!
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She is so cute. I never thought she could win either. I literally got the chills when she won the tiebreaker.
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Sep 16 2009, 02:40 AM
What a fucking B I T C H! Amongst other things.
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Here's the transcript from Natalie's chat...

(My comments are in parenthesis.)

(The game is over. Why is this bitch still lying?)

NATALIE: HELLO EVERYBODY. THANKS FOR SAYING HELLO.

NATALIE: AND FOR THE CONGRATULATIONS.

NATALIE: NO, WHEN I WENT INTO THE HOUSE, I TURNED OFF WHO I AM OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE AND TURNED ON GAME MODE.

[Comment From Jill]
Are you going to watch the whole season back when you get home?? Do you think you will have any regrets after watching it back???

NATALIE: YES, I DEFINITELY WILL WATCH THE SEASON...EVENTUALLY. AS OF RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE ANY REGRETS. WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING AT ALL.

[Comment From Beth]
What was the point of lying about your age? Do you think it served you well?

NATALIE: LYING ABOUT MY AGE SERVED ME WELL. IT GOT ME TO THE END. THE REASON FOR THE LIE WAS THAT I WAS TRYING TO PORTRAY A YOUNG GIRL, AND BY PORTRAYING A YOUNG GIRL I FELT PEOPLE WOULD SEE ME AS DUMB, NAIVE. WOULDN'T SEE ME AS A THREAT OR SMART ENOUGH TO PLAY THIS GAME BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T THINK THAT I HAD LIFE EXPERIENCE. WOULD CAUSE THEM TO NOT MAKE ME THE MAIN TARGET, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

[Comment From Dan]
You said that you threw on some fake tears in front of Chima and Lydia. Then why continue the crying in the diary room?

NATALIE: HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO WATCH THE SHOW SO NOT SURE WHAT EVERYONE HAS SEEN. MOST OF THE CRYING WAS TOWARD CHIMA GOING HOME AND BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO HER WITH THE COUP D'ETAT. IT WAS AN EMOTIONAL NIGHT AND WE WERE SHARING A DRINK. UPSET MOSTLY FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO CHIMA.

[Comment From Dina]
Why did you say that the mic pack slipped out of Chima's hand, when it was clearly evident on camera, that she threw it into the jacuzzi?

NATALIE: I never said the mic pack slipped out of her hand, just that the intent wasn't for it to land in the water. She clearly threw the microphone. (LIE!)

[Comment From April]
I would like to know what Michelle did that made Natalie dislike her so much...and if she has had time to reflect upon it?

NATALIE: I called Michele a devil in my nomination speech and I meant it; hold to it until this day. I truly felt making a deal with her was making a deal with the devil, which is why I didn't make a deal with her. I blamed Michele for Chima throwing the mic pack, because when Chima got her power stripped (with Coup d'etat), she got pushed to the edge of the ledge. Then after Michele betrayed Chima, Michele basically pushed Chima off the ledge, which caused Chima to throw her mic in the jacuzzi. I don't think Chima's actions are okay, and I would never do that. But as a friend, I can empathize with her. As her friend, I wasn't willing to sell her down the river and want to stay by her side, as I hope my friends would do if I ever make a mistake.

[Comment From james]
and sometimes the best person doesnt win. are still happy with the out come of the game

NATALIE: I am very happy with the outcome of the game. Of course I am disappointed. I didn't come for second place, I came for first. However, I am very happy coming along as far as I did in the game and taking second. Grateful to Jordan for taking me to the end. She will be a life long friend of mine.

[Comment From Nat Rox]
Hi Natalie, what did you think of Jessie's vote last night? Did he explain why he did it??

NATALIE: No, Jessie and I haven't talked. It came as no shock. I didn't think he would vote for me when he found out that I got engaged. He was very bitter about my rejections towards him and the only way he could get back at me was to not vote for me. And by him not voting for me, it proved how much he really did like me.

[Comment From Dawnn]
Did you and Russell have a secret deal?

NATALIE: No, everyone keeps asking me if Russell and I had a deal. Unfortunately, we never had a secret deal. I feel he voted for me because he respected the fact that I played the game. Yes, I told many, many lies. However this is a game, and a high stakes game for that matter, and I played the game to its fullest. In the end, Russell respected that.

[Comment From sassycam]
Why did you take Kevin's hoodie when he clearly wanted to keep it?

[Comment From John]
Do you still have Michelle's gloves?

NATALIE: In the end, two hours before live show, Kevin gave me the hoodie to remember him....because he knew I liked it. (LIE! She stole it from him and refused to give it back, so Kevin gave up fighting with her over it...)

NATALIE: Well they weren't Michele's gloves, they were Big Brother gloves. Think they were left on top of the washer. Actually, because we didn't all have the gloves from a previous competition, there were rules on whether they could be used. (LIE! They were Michele's gloves!)

[Comment From ssmith]
We saw you take the gloves from Michelle's drawer.

[Comment From Guest]
Live feeders saw you go through Michelle's belongings and take the gloves from her bag for heaven's sake!

[Comment From Cleo]
What color is the sky in your world? (LoL!)

NATALIE: Yes, they were taken from Michele's drawer but they were ultimately were left on top of the washer. (WTF? This doesn't even make sense...)

NATALIE: The second Jessie went home, Lydia, Chima and I left a sad diary room message. However, Jessie got goodbye messages from the whole house that America didn't get to see. He saw them privately in the jury house.

[Comment From Loops]
Congratulations on your engagement! Did you get a real ring yet?

NATALIE: I haven't received it yet, it is back home. From the sounds of it, its all I've ever dream of. Can't wait to get it on my finger.

NATALIE: And I will look forward to getting on my finger during my engagement party on September 26.

[Comment From demi]
Aren't you dying to find out why Jesse betrayed you?

NATALIE: I know why Jessie betrayed me...because he was upset about my rejections towards him. But he thought that he would at least have a chance outside this game. After he heard about the engagement, he knew he had no hope and was upset...so he didn't vote for me.

[Comment From Mike in NJ]
How confident were you that Jordan was gonna take you to the final 2?

NATALIE: I was 95% confident that Jordan would take me to the final two. She pinky promised and kissed on it...and I trusted her.

[Comment From purrwingBBU]
If you had won the final HOH, who would you have taken to the final 2?

NATALIE: If I would have won the final HoH, I would have taken Kevin. Didn't think I would have had shot against Jordan. Thought at least against Kevin it would be 50/50.

[Comment From Margarita]
What do you think about being a houseguest that America didnt reallyl like? (LoL!)

NATALIE: You know, I take it with a grain of salt. Ultimately, I wasn't playing this game for America. I was playing for myself and my family. Would have been nice to have America on my side, but I chose to take an aggressive strategic approach and some people may not have responded well to that. Hope that once America gets to know me, they will start to like me. In the end it was a game and I was just playing the game and hopefully America will see it as such. (Except for the fact that the game is over and you're STILL a phony lying bitch...)

NATALIE: Hey guys, gotta get going but thank you so much for chatting with me. Look forward to getting back home and enjoying my family and catching up on all the Big Brother episodes.

[Comment From i love jordan]
GO TO HELL

[Comment From bb fanatical seer]
delusional

[Comment From GMD]
Goodbye and good riddance!

[Comment From Guest]
You should probably avoid the internet.

[Comment From Holly]
I cannot believe she is STILL lying. It's VERY disturbing IMHO

Fancast Moderator: Please understand that I am not going to send questions to someone that are truly mean - regardless of how she was on BB - real life and BB are totally different things

[Comment From CADZILLA]
People hate her don't they?

Fancast Moderator: Wow - you wouldn't believe it.
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I don't think Natalie really understands the concept of us seeing everything on the 24/7 live feeds.

Up next is Kevin...
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She takes it with a grain of salt when it comes to America not liking her?? That doesn't even make sense. That bitch is so delusional and the fact that she is STILL lying says a lot about her.
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