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| SOW: Rafe's Ex-Love; July 14th issue; Article Summary | |
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| Liz<3Days | Jul 13 2009, 09:49 AM Post #121 |
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Sorry, but I disagree. I'm tired of defending my couple and dont care about SAFE, but its the SAME people posting on those threads you are talking about. All they do is bump up threads with "good morning," "good afternoon" "I hate the....." Then you have this one poster create 10 threads all leading the SAME people to agree with his thoughts. Sure, there's one or two people that will argue, but its pretty pointless. That's why I dont post there. Liz |
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| SocRMum1 | Jul 13 2009, 12:51 PM Post #122 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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When I first started becoming a more active poster here I enjoyed the opportunity to 'debate' the merits of the couple I support vs. their interlopers. (Not picking a fight with that - I realize there are others that would state EJami are the interlopers in each other's current pairing). I have been a member here and at NBC and Sony for quite a long time but my 'home base', so to speak, was Forbidden Love. I had never visited Sony all that often and my few experiences at NBC were wholly negative. As luv mentioned, there was a heavy Lumi bias in the moderating when I first started coming to the message boards and I found that to be off setting, to say the least. I will say that posting here has been a learning experience, and part of that is to simply just pick the battles that matter to me. I don't argue in every thread - and I do so far less regularly now than even a couple of months ago. It's just not worth the time and effort. But there are occassions when a new interview comes out, or a spoiler or something to spark a new twist on the old debates and I enjoy the opportunity to chime in. In no way do I believe any of the sites give a true picture of what type of fan support there is for a couple, with the possible exception of boards that specifically ship one couple. The 'general' boards are not a comfortable fit for everyone because lots of people don't care for the debating, bickering, arguing - whatever you want to call it. When I went on line looking for information regarding EJ and Sami I found a safe haven at FL and have been happily ensconced there ever since. I'm sure the same is true for those who hang out at 2nd Chances, The Dirty Martini or any of the other couple shipping sites. So it would seem to me that IF (note the big IF) TPTB are checking out boards they'll get a better feel for numbers if they frequent the sites that eliminate the need to weed through to see who likes whom. And I'm not talking about just the size of the membership as I'm sure different sites count that in different ways. But I would think that the level of activity on a site - the total number of threads, total posts per hour or day, etc. would give them a decent idea as to how actively a pairing is supported. Just my opinion... Edited by SocRMum1, Jul 13 2009, 12:52 PM.
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| Tammy101 | Jul 13 2009, 02:19 PM Post #123 |
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Give me a great story, with unbelievable chemistry and amazing acting and I will watch that each and every time. That is what I find in Ejami and what seriously lacks in Safe. Safe sucks as much as cleaning my toilets but at the end of the day, at least I have the satisfaction of my shitter being clean...not so much with Safe. |
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| SpriteEyes | Jul 13 2009, 03:13 PM Post #124 |
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I don't see a great love between Rafe and Sami, I see someone she's settled for and can use to keep Ej at bay; at least until she decides she doesn't want him at bay any longer. EJ will always be a DiMera but the only DiMera Sami hates is Stephano. :P Edited by SpriteEyes, Jul 13 2009, 03:15 PM.
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| daisy132 | Jul 13 2009, 06:06 PM Post #125 |
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The same mods are still there, and now they have only Lumi and Safe mods that continually move the Ejami threads off the main board and only keep the Safe ones on. Oh, and the Lumi and Safe fans are allowed to say whatever they want, and they still expell Ejami fans for every little thing they can find, real or imagined. |
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| lazydazes | Jul 13 2009, 06:24 PM Post #126 |
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Galen Gering just jumped on the same train that James was on. Actually, the same argument can be used for EJ. When James Scott entered the scene, Sami was the only character that he interacted with. It was Samantha all the way. It was Ejami and that horrid Santos/Colleen crap that drove the show into the ground. They didn't try to see if EJ had any chemistry with anyone else on the show. The scribes were hellbent on putting those two together no matter what. Lumi fans were screwed over after years of ups/downs. Those waiting for Ejami can finally relate to how everyone else feels Finally. Rafe has ridden in on his white horse and whisked Sami off her feet. I'm a member of Sony, NBC, and countless others. I know how it rolls on all of them. The thread starts off about one topic and then suddenly progresses to an "I don't see why you like so and so" thread. Go read those posts. It's the same people posting back and forth once they get their train going. I don't post as often as many others, but I am still a DAYS fan all the way. There are a lot of members like me who read the posts and simply don't reply. Some are just more likely to post than others. So, other voices cannot be discounted even if they aren't as vocal and it also shoots all kinds of holes in the theory that everybody wants Ejami together. I'm a big James Scott and Arianne Zucker fan and proud of it. So, I'm going to skip all the rhythm and roll to try and prove why I like them. I would prefer an EJ/Nicole story with Brady thrown in to mix it up a bit. The writers screwed up big time when they started hampering with EJ/Nicole and removed Brady from their story. There was some serious storyline potential there for some serious sizzle and drama. As for Sami, Rafe is a genius in the fact that finally I don't have to lay down on my FFWD button whenever she comes on. That is saying a lot. If he can make me tolerate Sami, he's damn good in my opinion. She's not screaming or pulling a temper tantrum that's so unbecoming of a thirty something year old woman with children. Besides, Rafe is a good guy not to mention hot. Rafe doesn't have to be a mass murderer or master criminal to be "hot". It's okay to be a nice guy after all. I'm excited about Rafe's storyline and can't wait to see what secrets he's hiding. Who doesn't have a few skeletons in their closet in Salem? We'd only be able to elect Ciara, Grace, Allie, and Johnny in that category. But, I'm sure even they have snuck an extra cookie in there every now and then to make them "bad". I just had to throw my two cents in because it seems that Rafe is going through the same thing that Nicole and Lucas have been going through for months. In some eyes, Rafe will never be able do enough because he's getting in the way of Ejami. And that's a fact. :rockon: |
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| Halloween Family | Jul 13 2009, 06:38 PM Post #127 |
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I remember EJ being connected to Kate and some flirtations with Billie. I remember them playing the "sexy" music in a few scenes with red headed Stephanie (and didn't JS at one point think he was going to get paired with her) and they played the sexy music again with Abby. Jack flipped out on Abby for even looking in EJ's direction. I dont remember how long WP was but I remember them doing a little something with Rafe & Hope, where Bo got all jealous. Not regarding your post, but I don't understand why people get SOOOOOOOOO bent out of shape if someone hates or loves a particular pairing or character. I personally loved EJami, like the idea of Melanie with either Brady or Phil, Stephanie with Owen, Chloe with Stefano, Kate with Nickalaus Allamaine, Nick Fallon with Billie, Hope with John...I realize there are people who would rather stick a thousand hot searing needles into their eyes before seeing these pairings but I like stories with people who shouldn't be together but are drawn to one another but I understand their distaste. People's distaste or disagreement with my preferences take nothing away from me if they express so...it's not a personal attack. |
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| mer4santo | Jul 13 2009, 06:41 PM Post #128 |
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I always find it interesting that every fanbase believes irrevocably that 'their' couple is the one that brings in the good ratings and anything else drops them. If the show revolved only around one couple this would be a good argument but there typically are 3-4 stories running at a time and the whole of the show is what is sinking this ship entirely. Regardless of who I personally like or dislike the writing for the entire show is shallow and poorly conceived. If that changed overall even watching couples you dislike might provide entertainment. If you only watch one couple and not the entire show you aren't a fan Days imo. I mean I ff through parts of many episodes but I watch it each and every day and pick up on what is happening. People who stop watching the show because 'their' couple isn't at the forefront don't help the show overall. |
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| mirabella | Jul 13 2009, 06:55 PM Post #129 |
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Wow! The funny thing is that some of us SAFE fans, including myself, were thinking that every time we post something positive about Sami and Rafe on the main board at NBC, it is moved to our sub forum. I guess they don't like posts that are just about one couple or character on the main board. I was thinking it was just Safe threads that were being moved, but then I noticed that if there is a post about Rafe/Sami/EJ/Nicole/Lucas, then it is moved to the triangles forum. I didn't think all that much about it but was just wondering what was exactly was allowed to be posted on the main board. I am still not really sure what is ok to post on the main board but I don't worry about it because if I have posted in the wrong place, someone will move it for me. Right now on the first page of the NBC Days main board, no posts have been moved. I don't see any threads about Lumi but a whole bunch about Stephanie, one about EJ being redeemed that has been on the main board since July 8th. The other 4 posts that have EJ, Sami, Rafe and/or Nicole in the heading were just started since the show ended today. I expect some of them will be moved to the forum they are supposed to be in. I have not seen any mod post in our Safe forum except to tell us that she moved a post there or edited something in a post. I don't believe any of them are Safe fans. I do know that one is a Galen fan because she has a picture of him (only him) in her signature. As far as I know she has never posted in the SAFE thread or SAFE sub-forum. Other than that one being a Galen fan, I would not know if any of the others are fans of a particular couple because I have seen no indication of that. I also have not seen Lumi and Safe fans say whatever they want while Ejami fans are expelled for every little thing but then I don't read posts except in the SAFE area, spoiler forum, and the main board on occasion. I am sorry if you feel that you have been unjustly treated at that board. I know how it feels. |
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| luvpumpkns | Jul 13 2009, 07:12 PM Post #130 |
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it always felt to me like someone was reading the boards. by all means i'm not saying what people want on message boards is the end-all and be-all of what ends up on the show, but there would be times i'd be suspicious--like a poster would make a funny crack about a character, or say 'wouldn't it be nice if so and so happened--' and then bam, a couple of months later, you'd see the same joke on the show. i can honestly really only think of two or three times this happened in the past(and it was always an nbc poster) but it has happened. maybe it was just an errant writer mining for ideas--who knows. i guess i just think that IF the show wanted input on a certain couple or storyline, the easiest and most logical thing to do would be to check a general board. plus boards have the advantage of being frequented by the group most advertisers lust for--18-30. i'm just saying that if i was in charge, i'd sniff around the internet to see what people thought about the show. and i do also think the ejami fans have been heard. people can pooh pooh the idea that TPTB might take a fanbase into account, but i have to wonder exactly WHY such lengths were gone to to make sure that couple is still a viable option. from what i heard, the studio was bombarded during the whole RINR campaign, and not many months later, you still have the whole rape thing retconned with the 'it wasn't like that and we both know it' speech--even though sami said it was rape, lucas shot ej thinking she was raped, and will ran away thinking his mother was marrying her rapist. i guess from seeing what lengths this show has gone to make sure ej and sami aren't totally tabled as a couple(which they should be, IMO, considering the disgusting things they've done and said to each other) has to be attributed to something. perhaps corday has as much of a hard-on for ejami as he did for shelle. i don't know. i've just always felt that the very real online popularity of ejami had something to do with it. Edited by luvpumpkns, Jul 13 2009, 07:13 PM.
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| SocRMum1 | Jul 13 2009, 07:15 PM Post #131 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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I think there was a huge difference in the intent when EJ entered the scene versus Rafe. James Scott has said he knew before he took the job that EJ would be a DiMera. However, the first few months on the show that fact was hidden from Sami as well as the viewers. I don't believe they brought JS on to pair with Alison Sweeney intentionally - I think he was brought in to resurge the DiMeras on the canvas and to be an interloper and create angst for Lumi. What TPTB didn't count on was the white hot chemistry that ignited between JS and AS - and the impact it had on viewers. Rather than react to it and go with it, they continued on with their original intent by following through on the whole 12/29 storyline. But somewhere along the way I think they realized they had screwed up royally and recognized the potential with this pairing - and they've been struggling to recover from their initial mistakes ever since. I agree that the entire Santeen storyline was created to serve the immediate need of giving fans the opportunity to enjoy the chemistry between JS & AS - but they knew it would take some tremendous time and effort to get to a similar point with the characters of EJ and Sami because of their earlier ignorance and the colossal mistake of not recognizing the growing and ardent support of the EJami fan base and the audience in general. If it turns out that Rafe is actually a DiMera or some other sinister thing like that, and is only befriending Sami as a means to an end - then I'll eat my words. But to say at this point in time that GG is on the same train that JS was on just isn't the case. In fact, it's the polar opposite. TPTB failed to chem test in both cases - and each time it seems to me they are finding out that the fans want the opposite of what they intended. |
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| daisy132 | Jul 13 2009, 07:17 PM Post #132 |
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Hey, even some actors are Ejami fans. Molly Burnett is one that we know of. |
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| magicsteacher | Jul 13 2009, 07:52 PM Post #133 |
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| mer4santo | Jul 13 2009, 07:55 PM Post #134 |
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Please lawdy, no. That would be just as bad as John being one. :drunk: |
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| EjsGaGirl | Jul 13 2009, 08:16 PM Post #135 |
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Rafey ain't got the balls to be a Dimera...at least John had balls!!LOL..oh forgot to add..he needs a personality too..maybe he can take a trip to see the Wizard,and get his boring ass off my tv screen..I am tired of fastforwarding through his ass :sleep:
Edited by EjsGaGirl, Jul 13 2009, 08:21 PM.
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| lazydazes | Jul 13 2009, 08:17 PM Post #136 |
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This goes back to my earlier statement about threads being turned into something other than what the original poster intended. It started out about the article in SOW about Rafe's ex-love. Now, as usual it's turned into a thread to pump up and gush about why Ejami is the "it" couple or "endgame". Spare us all. This is always done countless times no matter what board you post on. |
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| daisy132 | Jul 13 2009, 08:30 PM Post #137 |
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Never fails. Everywhere you go, every thread turns out like this. It's always predictable. |
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| Halloween Family | Jul 13 2009, 08:38 PM Post #138 |
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Are they suppose to stay on topic? I thought the purpose of the boards were to generate conversations and conversations sometimes veer off the original topic. |
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| SocRMum1 | Jul 13 2009, 08:43 PM Post #139 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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I agree the thread is way off topic at this point...but my last post was simply a reply to yours on the last page. So why is it now an issue for you that the thread is off topic? It's a discussion board. I see no reason why the discussions can't flow - particularly when they aren't getting overly nasty. |
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| SocRMum1 | Jul 13 2009, 08:46 PM Post #140 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not supporting the idea...which is why I don't expect to be eating my words. ;) |
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