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| SOD: EJ says, "I still love Sami!"; August 18th issues; Summary of Articles | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 5 2009, 11:54 AM (10,262 Views) | |
| Paxton | Aug 5 2009, 03:17 PM Post #61 |
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I agree that I saw that coming, but I made the point that I did because you were responding directly to jane's question about whether anyone thought EJ and Nicole wouldn't be broken up and remarked that it was "surprising" that anyone did. Anyway, there really isn't a value judgment in what I said either, since I didn't criticize EJami fans for supporting their couple. I agree that the same could be said of every fanbase, that everyone is willing to overlook or ignore or speculate about things that seem implausible at best or ridiculous at worst to people who are either in opposing fanbases or neutral. As for the speculations and how plausible they are, message boards wouldn't be very much fun if people did nothing but discuss what had just happened. Given the silly, over the top and frankly bizarre story twists this show has pulled in the past, there's practically no speculation that seems impossible. There are tons of things this show does that I simply don't understand and would never write if I were in charge, for example, Stephanie and Max being in love and almost nobody commenting on, let alone objecting to, their relationship. If you asked me if I considered it realistic, plausible or even possible that Steve and Kayla wouldn't come unglued at Stephanie sleeping with Uncle Max, even if they ultimately agreed that it was ok because they hadn't been brought up as family or something, I'd say no, it was not. But that's what the show gave me. Like I said, it doesn't much matter. The show will do what it's going to do and I might hate it, I might love it, I might find it stupid, or I may be so uninterested I turn it off. But I definitely have no control over it. |
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| Livie | Aug 5 2009, 03:18 PM Post #62 |
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All the lamenting about Sami not being able to tell EJ she loves him mystifies me. I can understand how people can not get how she could not tell him she loved him back in the safe house or when he was helping her with the twins, but to wonder or be upset at her now is sort of having a misogynistic viewpoint. This is still the man who for all intents and purposes raped her to conceive a child to save his father with. That is point one. He also threatened to harm Will in a bid to get his way, he was responsible for Johns shooting, coma, and loss of a kidney. Sami forgot all of that, and was begginning to look to EJ when he got the great idea of using Nicole to make her jealous, lying about the immigration, thought it was cute that Nicole called the police on Sami, then Sami upsets him with a phone call and he thinks ok, I will sooth my hurts with a poke in an elevator shaft at Nicole. Then he goes into full time business with his Father, who he knows terrifies Sami from the ordeal in the hospital corridor alone, plus he has to have some idea his father was behind the mayor's shooting which means his father was trying to have Sami killed as well. Why on earth besides his looks is this a man anyone would want Sami with? She has not done anything nearly obscene enough in at least ten years to warrant being saddled with this psychopath. Thank God she has let go of Lucas, and as long as Rafe has no one more idiotic in his family than Arianna, Sami is in a better place now. Let EJ still be in love with her, and lets hope it is a painful realization for him when he knows how badly he blew his one chance for happiness. |
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| Halloween Family | Aug 5 2009, 03:27 PM Post #63 |
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Thanks for posting! :) "He says it's "very confusing" and that there are "multiple layers". I hope this means James will start conveying some sort of feeling into EJ. One of the things I miss about EJ the most is always knowing what emotions he is experiencing. With Nicole, the only feeling I get (with a few minor exceptions) is a man trapped into a marriage and giving it the old college try because he is so desperate to be in love, especially after Sami stepped on his heart and spat on it. I'm not going to get excited yet but hopeful. |
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| Livie | Aug 5 2009, 03:57 PM Post #64 |
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Stepped on his heart? She jumped into his bed. The only spitting came when she found out once again, he lied and cheated to get her to do it. Then even after all of that she told him in the stairwell that she could not imagine her life without him. So what does he do then? He goes to tell Nicole he felt he cheated on her. EJ had the chance with Sami, and he was the one who decided to shove it aside for a cheap ride with Nicole. Sami tried to tell him about the baby, but he was busy getting busy with Nicole. She tried to tell him at the wedding, but he was busy doing a murder. Sami felt his rejection, now they are even. Sami and Rafe may be boring to some, but a boring guy is even better than a psychopath on a soap. However, I will not rule out Sami being the one who makes Rafe leave her, just as it has played out with every man she has been in love with. The one way I see her being put with EJ is when the writers decide the two loserest people on Days need to ride off into the sunset together. |
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| mer4santo | Aug 5 2009, 04:14 PM Post #65 |
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I beg to differ. I can watch paint dry without turning on the tele. |
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| magicsteacher | Aug 5 2009, 04:14 PM Post #66 |
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Seriously, I have learned to take these interviews with a grain of salt and that goes for the cover pictures,too. Just like the one where it says SAFE SPLITS-- making it sound like they are over. When you read the article, you realize it doesn't say that. I also have a fellow poster who went to a fan event where JS was present and he told her that he liked playing opposite Nicole b/c they have good chemistry and he can be himself around the character of Nicole and he can't be with the character of Sami. This article doesn't say much that we didn't already know-- that he still has some feelings for Sami, but whether or not he acts on them is a whole different story, and whether or not Stefano lets him makes a big difference. |
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| shaw | Aug 5 2009, 04:28 PM Post #67 |
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:cheers: Well I guess since Sami is a bad bitch (love her when she is bad) then she can be with badboy Lucas who is going to be on the dark side again shortly. |
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| six | Aug 5 2009, 04:30 PM Post #68 |
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I stand by it being it being surprising, simply because believing that the fallout from this will not result in at least a temporary break up, as some have done, is ignoring soap 101. If they veer from that, I'll be shocked, not as an ejami fan, but as a long time soap fan. We got the twist with the third baby, but Grace's death put us right back to the classic "mother grieves her lost child who's really alive" baby switch. I'm not saying people shouldn't speculate and look at the clues given so far to get an idea of what's coming in the future, or even cobble up their own clues if that makes them happy, most of us do at least the first all the time, but I'm sometimes surprised at the lengths people can go to believe that what their couple is just around the corner/will stay together, when the writers are making it painfully clear that the characters are going to be doing something else for awhile. I don't see how anyone can read a soap board long enough and not be surprised sometimes, and if you share spec on a non fan board, people who disagree are probably going to say something. I agree that this show does some weird stuff sometimes, but I don't see them throwing this story under the bus. A lot of people are holding on to see the fallout and Nicole get hers, just as fans were during the Kristen and Lexie kidnapping plots, and imo, the show will deliver that. Guess we'll see.:) My other point the post isn't meant to be a fanbase thing, and the "ejami" thing seemed to be a jab to make it into a fanbase issue. I can see now where you got that impression, though. |
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| six | Aug 5 2009, 04:32 PM Post #69 |
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:cheers: I like my soap characters to be entertaining. Boring is never entertaining. |
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| SocRMum1 | Aug 5 2009, 05:10 PM Post #70 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Exactly. And get a freshly painted room instead of a waste of time out of the deal. ;) |
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| Halloween Family | Aug 5 2009, 05:25 PM Post #71 |
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I don't know if we disagree or agree. The Ejami relationship is definitely dysfunctional but Sami rejected EJ over and over for 2 years and not necessarily isolated to those two incidents. I get that Ejami isn't everyone's cup of tea and leaves a bitter taste in people's mouths but when they were on fire they had me captivated. They both oozed sex appeal that I've never seen elsewhere. I would never poo poo someone's love of Safe because even though they don't evoke any strong emotion out of me either way, I do get why they have a following. Personally, I wish there were more mentally unstable people on soaps just to up the ante on the drama factor. |
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| Marian | Aug 5 2009, 06:21 PM Post #72 |
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This is where I'm coming from - Sami has always had horrible relationships where the guy has loved someone else (eg Lucas and Austin loving Sami's SISTER!) or not loved her any more once they knew what she was really like. EJ was obssessed with her, even though he knew exactly what she was like, since the day he met her and that never changed until they brought Nicole into the story. The Santo thing just made it even more magical for me since it made their relationship a thing of fate. That kind of blind love as so captivating for me. Sami is afraid to love someone who loves her unconditionally. She sabotages relationships because she hates herself and she's had a very low opinion of herself, ever since she lived in her sister's shadow. To let the relationship with EJ work, means she has to accept that she's worth loving as she is, warts and all. That EJ never gave up even though she kept pushing him away will make it all that more meaningful once they are finally together. I'm just upset that they sullied it all by allowing him to fall for someone else. He was way more attractive when he only ever had eyes for Sami. The scene where he saw Sami in his bed when he was making love to Nicole and then seeing Sami with Sydney in his dream makes me feel a little better... but you can't have it all I guess. I couldn't care less who the characters were - it could easily have been Brady and Nicole. It's just the thought that someone could love someone else so completely and unconditionally that has me jumping on the EJami wagon. |
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| Dallas812 | Aug 5 2009, 08:16 PM Post #73 |
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I can tell EJami is coming soon. Yeah! I can't wait and I knew EJ still loves Sami and now he is saying how he feels. Great news!! |
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| SocRMum1 | Aug 5 2009, 09:13 PM Post #74 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Fantastic post! :cheer: :cheer: You've summed up perfectly what I think is part of the magic of EJami. Sami was a character I used to love to hate. Then for a long while, I just loved her. Lately, I find more often that I hate to love her. :-/ EJ sees her, with all of her flaws and despite everything she's done to hurt him, and he loves her regardless. Hell...he's even desperately tried not to - but here he is, still loving her. I find that kind of deep rooted love that survives every obstacle and goes beyond reason to be intoxicating. I happen to think Sami finds it terrifying because she doesn't feel worthy of it. I'm looking forward to the day when, once and for all, finally, she does. :hug: |
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| Livie | Aug 5 2009, 10:16 PM Post #75 |
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I have to agree that EJ and the way he ONCE loved Sami was incredible. The way he loves now is just disgusting. That is how he has been ruined. To be able to move on while Sami was being locked away from her kids shows me that if he ever once had a heart, the fact that he is in his soul a DiMera evil doer once more is the reason Sami can move on, and why she has to. Nothing about EJ for the longest time has been entertaining. He is not charming, not intelligent, not suave, he is just a bit of Lucas that is taller and with more facial hair. Edited by Livie, Aug 5 2009, 10:18 PM.
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| SocRMum1 | Aug 5 2009, 10:28 PM Post #76 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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I suppose I see it as the opposite of what you've described. EJ did try to move on. Sami encouraged him to do so and he made every effort - but before he did he made one last attempt to reach out to Sami even after he knew Nicole was pregnant, and told Sami that he thought they were always destined. Sami encouraged him that his 'fate' was with Nicole - even though it clearly broke her heart to do so. She should have told him then, if not before then, that she was carrying his baby. Things could have been so very different. But she simply didn't trust in the love her was offering to be strong enough to turn his back on his father and protect his family with Sami from the DiMera influence - even though he'd proven in the past he is willing and able to do so. Everything that has happened between them since then has been painful and brutal - but none more so than Sami hatefully telling EJ that Grace was his daughter and she hid the fact because "he's a DiMera". But despite the pain, the rage and the grief...he's coming to realize that no matter what, he still loves her. That, to me, is incredible. We always hope to find that one great true love, that no matter what we do, they won't stop. Sami has that in EJ - but has yet to find the strength to embrace it. |
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| mer4santo | Aug 5 2009, 11:06 PM Post #77 |
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yeah, what she said ! Yet I also agree that EJ isn't as charming as he used to be, but then he isn't as nasty either. What I wouldn't give for a good old fashioned Patrick style belt whipping of Rafe. Just me? :shrug: Edited by mer4santo, Aug 5 2009, 11:08 PM.
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| Nicole Walker | Aug 5 2009, 11:27 PM Post #78 |
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I can't wait for this story to be over and Nicole to be out of this mess. Let EJ be stuck on Sami while she's hot in the butt for another man. I can't wait to see what's instore for Nicole after this story is over with. Hopefully she won't be like EJ stuck in the same tired story for years. I want her out of this story ASAP gotta get my girl a better storyline than this.
Edited by Nicole Walker, Aug 6 2009, 12:18 AM.
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| Tara | Aug 5 2009, 11:37 PM Post #79 |
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^^^ I feel the same way you do. (PLEASE FREE NICOLE FROM THIS MESS) |
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| Nicole Walker | Aug 6 2009, 12:17 AM Post #80 |
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Okay. If they won't put her with Brady bring back Nicholas Alamain and let those two stir up some heat. I'd also love to see Nicole and Vivian in scenes together those two would crack me the hell up. I'd also love to see Nicole back to working. |
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