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Y&R: A Closer Look -- Nick; SOD Article
Topic Started: Aug 27 2009, 06:31 PM (27,593 Views)
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mll1206
Sep 9 2009, 11:19 AM
according to a real good friend of mine that works in the 'business' in Canada, Toronto to be exact, ALL SHOWS in Canada are in their ratings, daytime and prime time are not seperated, their ratings have nothing to do with our Nielsen ratings whatsoever. Here is his quote to me when I asked him "Our ratings system doesn't release daytime numbers but Y&R is in the top 20 shows of all of daytime and prime time. They usually rank around 15-18!"

PHICK remarriage was a 3.5 not a 3.4


Then your "friend' would be wrong, as Nielsen says the first run air date, is what is used for the ratings, which doesn't include soapnet or Internet broadcasts. Sassychic is correct on that, which still puts Phick recommit at 3.4.
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Nicole Dimera
Sep 9 2009, 11:29 AM
All this ratings talk is exciting. LOL. I doubt the Shick fanbase is the majority of Y&R viewers. I don't like them or Phick. Nick can drop dead and then maybe we'll get some good story telling for Sharon and Phyllis that don't involve that idiot waffler.
Sounds good to me, I'm all for Nick dropping dead :D I would love to see BOTH Sharon and Phyllis move on to better stories with a more capable partner.
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Sep 9 2009, 12:29 PM
mll1206
Sep 9 2009, 11:19 AM
according to a real good friend of mine that works in the 'business' in Canada, Toronto to be exact, ALL SHOWS in Canada are in their ratings, daytime and prime time are not seperated, their ratings have nothing to do with our Nielsen ratings whatsoever. Here is his quote to me when I asked him "Our ratings system doesn't release daytime numbers but Y&R is in the top 20 shows of all of daytime and prime time. They usually rank around 15-18!"

PHICK remarriage was a 3.5 not a 3.4


Then your "friend' would be wrong, as Nielsen says the first run air date, is what is used for the ratings, which doesn't include soapnet or Internet broadcasts. Sassychic is correct on that, which still puts Phick recommit at 3.4.
I don't think so, you might want to do some research before you spew the wrong information, Nielsen measures over 40% of the world’s TV viewing behavior, but each country's #'s are SEPARATE from other countries.


http://en-us.nielsen.com/tab/product_families/nielsen_tv_audience


Electronic metering technology is the heart of the Nielsen ratings process. We use two types of meters: set meters capture what channel is being tuned, while People Meters go a step further and gather information about who is watching in addition to the channel tuned.

Diaries are also used to collect viewing information from sample homes in many television markets in the United States, and smaller markets are measured by paper diaries only. Each year we process approximately 2 million paper diaries from households across the country for the months of November, February, May and July — also known as the “sweeps” rating periods. Seven-day diaries (or eight-day diaries in homes with DVRs) are mailed to homes to keep a tally of what is watched on each television set and by whom. Over the course of a sweeps period, diaries are mailed to a new panel of homes each week. At the end of the month, all of the viewing data from the individual weeks is aggregated.

This local viewing information provides a basis for program scheduling and advertising decisions for local television stations, cable systems, and advertisers.

In some of the mid-size markets, diaries provide viewer information for up to three additional “sweeps” months (October, January and March).

People Meter samples
Our national sample, composed of a cross-section of representative homes throughout the United States, is measured by a combination of set meters and People Meters. These meters give us information about not only what is being viewed on the set, but also exactly which members of the household are watching.

The People Meter is a “box” - about the size of a paperback book - that is hooked to each television and is accompanied by a remote control. Each family member in a sample household is assigned a personal viewing button, which is matched to that person’s age and sex. Whenever the TV is turned on, a light flashes on the meter, reminding viewers to press their assigned button and indicate that they are watching television. Additional buttons on the People Meter enable guests who are also watching to participate in the sample by entering their age, sex and viewing status into the system.

In addition to our national measurement, Nielsen currently measures the top 21 local markets using Local People Meter Technology, with plans for a total of 25 markets by 2010.

Set Meter samples
Large to mid-sized local markets below the top 21 (such as Milwaukee, San Antonio and Memphis) are measured by a different type of meter - one that gives information about set-tuning only. In these markets, demographic information is provided by a separate sample of people who fill out seven-day paper diaries (or eight-day diaries in homes with DVRs).


Edited by mll1206, Sep 9 2009, 04:13 PM.
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mll1206
Sep 9 2009, 04:12 PM
Raspberry
Sep 9 2009, 12:29 PM
mll1206
Sep 9 2009, 11:19 AM
according to a real good friend of mine that works in the 'business' in Canada, Toronto to be exact, ALL SHOWS in Canada are in their ratings, daytime and prime time are not seperated, their ratings have nothing to do with our Nielsen ratings whatsoever. Here is his quote to me when I asked him "Our ratings system doesn't release daytime numbers but Y&R is in the top 20 shows of all of daytime and prime time. They usually rank around 15-18!"

PHICK remarriage was a 3.5 not a 3.4


Then your "friend' would be wrong, as Nielsen says the first run air date, is what is used for the ratings, which doesn't include soapnet or Internet broadcasts. Sassychic is correct on that, which still puts Phick recommit at 3.4.
I don't think so, you might want to do some research before you spew the wrong information, Nielsen measures over 40% of the world’s TV viewing behavior, but each country's #'s are SEPARATE from other countries.


http://en-us.nielsen.com/tab/product_families/nielsen_tv_audience


Electronic metering technology is the heart of the Nielsen ratings process. We use two types of meters: set meters capture what channel is being tuned, while People Meters go a step further and gather information about who is watching in addition to the channel tuned.

Diaries are also used to collect viewing information from sample homes in many television markets in the United States, and smaller markets are measured by paper diaries only. Each year we process approximately 2 million paper diaries from households across the country for the months of November, February, May and July — also known as the “sweeps” rating periods. Seven-day diaries (or eight-day diaries in homes with DVRs) are mailed to homes to keep a tally of what is watched on each television set and by whom. Over the course of a sweeps period, diaries are mailed to a new panel of homes each week. At the end of the month, all of the viewing data from the individual weeks is aggregated.

This local viewing information provides a basis for program scheduling and advertising decisions for local television stations, cable systems, and advertisers.

In some of the mid-size markets, diaries provide viewer information for up to three additional “sweeps” months (October, January and March).

People Meter samples
Our national sample, composed of a cross-section of representative homes throughout the United States, is measured by a combination of set meters and People Meters. These meters give us information about not only what is being viewed on the set, but also exactly which members of the household are watching.

The People Meter is a “box” - about the size of a paperback book - that is hooked to each television and is accompanied by a remote control. Each family member in a sample household is assigned a personal viewing button, which is matched to that person’s age and sex. Whenever the TV is turned on, a light flashes on the meter, reminding viewers to press their assigned button and indicate that they are watching television. Additional buttons on the People Meter enable guests who are also watching to participate in the sample by entering their age, sex and viewing status into the system.

In addition to our national measurement, Nielsen currently measures the top 21 local markets using Local People Meter Technology, with plans for a total of 25 markets by 2010.

Set Meter samples
Large to mid-sized local markets below the top 21 (such as Milwaukee, San Antonio and Memphis) are measured by a different type of meter - one that gives information about set-tuning only. In these markets, demographic information is provided by a separate sample of people who fill out seven-day paper diaries (or eight-day diaries in homes with DVRs).


Appreciate the trouble you went to post all of the information already read it before the bottom line is that it's the first air date run, that the Nielsen ratings are calculate on, nothing else. So here's a little tid bit.

The latest Nielsen Ratings


In this section, you will be able to check out the latest soap opera ratings in a variety of areas. First, the industry's measure is the Nielsen ratings system. These numbers are used to rank the various soap operas and the numbers determine how much a show can command for advertising. Each ratings point equals 1,145,000 viewers (so a 2.0 rating means that about 2.256 million people viewed that program).

Please note that these ratings figures only pertain to those viewers watching the first-run daytime airings of each soap. Internet broadcasts and SOAPnet broadcasts are not counted in these figures.

Taken from SOC which gives an accurate depiction of how the rating's are gathered
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Raspberry
Sep 10 2009, 12:03 AM
mll1206
Sep 9 2009, 04:12 PM
Raspberry
Sep 9 2009, 12:29 PM
mll1206
Sep 9 2009, 11:19 AM
according to a real good friend of mine that works in the 'business' in Canada, Toronto to be exact, ALL SHOWS in Canada are in their ratings, daytime and prime time are not seperated, their ratings have nothing to do with our Nielsen ratings whatsoever. Here is his quote to me when I asked him "Our ratings system doesn't release daytime numbers but Y&R is in the top 20 shows of all of daytime and prime time. They usually rank around 15-18!"

PHICK remarriage was a 3.5 not a 3.4


Then your "friend' would be wrong, as Nielsen says the first run air date, is what is used for the ratings, which doesn't include soapnet or Internet broadcasts. Sassychic is correct on that, which still puts Phick recommit at 3.4.
I don't think so, you might want to do some research before you spew the wrong information, Nielsen measures over 40% of the world’s TV viewing behavior, but each country's #'s are SEPARATE from other countries.


http://en-us.nielsen.com/tab/product_families/nielsen_tv_audience


Electronic metering technology is the heart of the Nielsen ratings process. We use two types of meters: set meters capture what channel is being tuned, while People Meters go a step further and gather information about who is watching in addition to the channel tuned.

Diaries are also used to collect viewing information from sample homes in many television markets in the United States, and smaller markets are measured by paper diaries only. Each year we process approximately 2 million paper diaries from households across the country for the months of November, February, May and July — also known as the “sweeps” rating periods. Seven-day diaries (or eight-day diaries in homes with DVRs) are mailed to homes to keep a tally of what is watched on each television set and by whom. Over the course of a sweeps period, diaries are mailed to a new panel of homes each week. At the end of the month, all of the viewing data from the individual weeks is aggregated.

This local viewing information provides a basis for program scheduling and advertising decisions for local television stations, cable systems, and advertisers.

In some of the mid-size markets, diaries provide viewer information for up to three additional “sweeps” months (October, January and March).

People Meter samples
Our national sample, composed of a cross-section of representative homes throughout the United States, is measured by a combination of set meters and People Meters. These meters give us information about not only what is being viewed on the set, but also exactly which members of the household are watching.

The People Meter is a “box” - about the size of a paperback book - that is hooked to each television and is accompanied by a remote control. Each family member in a sample household is assigned a personal viewing button, which is matched to that person’s age and sex. Whenever the TV is turned on, a light flashes on the meter, reminding viewers to press their assigned button and indicate that they are watching television. Additional buttons on the People Meter enable guests who are also watching to participate in the sample by entering their age, sex and viewing status into the system.

In addition to our national measurement, Nielsen currently measures the top 21 local markets using Local People Meter Technology, with plans for a total of 25 markets by 2010.

Set Meter samples
Large to mid-sized local markets below the top 21 (such as Milwaukee, San Antonio and Memphis) are measured by a different type of meter - one that gives information about set-tuning only. In these markets, demographic information is provided by a separate sample of people who fill out seven-day paper diaries (or eight-day diaries in homes with DVRs).


Appreciate the trouble you went to post all of the information already read it before the bottom line is that it's the first air date run, that the Nielsen ratings are calculate on, nothing else. So here's a little tid bit.

The latest Nielsen Ratings


In this section, you will be able to check out the latest soap opera ratings in a variety of areas. First, the industry's measure is the Nielsen ratings system. These numbers are used to rank the various soap operas and the numbers determine how much a show can command for advertising. Each ratings point equals 1,145,000 viewers (so a 2.0 rating means that about 2.256 million people viewed that program).

Please note that these ratings figures only pertain to those viewers watching the first-run daytime airings of each soap. Internet broadcasts and SOAPnet broadcasts are not counted in these figures.

Taken from SOC which gives an accurate depiction of how the rating's are gathered
You are trying to confuse the issue. What does this blurb have to do with Soap Opera Central. The last ratings period they have listed is June 1st. However, their ratings are the same as SON for that time period so...don't get your point.

Toups at SON gets the ratings directly from the network.
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AND the Nielsen ratings for the US have NOTHING to do with the Nielsen ratings for CANADA!!!!!! if the two countries were combined, where are all the Canadian TV shows on our Nielsen Ratings??? the fact that Canada gets the show a day in advance has NOTHING to do with US Nielsen ratings.

I trust Toups and what he provides for us on SON.
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Sep 10 2009, 12:14 AM
Raspberry
Sep 10 2009, 12:03 AM
mll1206
Sep 9 2009, 04:12 PM
Raspberry
Sep 9 2009, 12:29 PM

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I don't think so, you might want to do some research before you spew the wrong information, Nielsen measures over 40% of the world’s TV viewing behavior, but each country's #'s are SEPARATE from other countries.


http://en-us.nielsen.com/tab/product_families/nielsen_tv_audience


Electronic metering technology is the heart of the Nielsen ratings process. We use two types of meters: set meters capture what channel is being tuned, while People Meters go a step further and gather information about who is watching in addition to the channel tuned.

Diaries are also used to collect viewing information from sample homes in many television markets in the United States, and smaller markets are measured by paper diaries only. Each year we process approximately 2 million paper diaries from households across the country for the months of November, February, May and July — also known as the “sweeps” rating periods. Seven-day diaries (or eight-day diaries in homes with DVRs) are mailed to homes to keep a tally of what is watched on each television set and by whom. Over the course of a sweeps period, diaries are mailed to a new panel of homes each week. At the end of the month, all of the viewing data from the individual weeks is aggregated.

This local viewing information provides a basis for program scheduling and advertising decisions for local television stations, cable systems, and advertisers.

In some of the mid-size markets, diaries provide viewer information for up to three additional “sweeps” months (October, January and March).

People Meter samples
Our national sample, composed of a cross-section of representative homes throughout the United States, is measured by a combination of set meters and People Meters. These meters give us information about not only what is being viewed on the set, but also exactly which members of the household are watching.

The People Meter is a “box” - about the size of a paperback book - that is hooked to each television and is accompanied by a remote control. Each family member in a sample household is assigned a personal viewing button, which is matched to that person’s age and sex. Whenever the TV is turned on, a light flashes on the meter, reminding viewers to press their assigned button and indicate that they are watching television. Additional buttons on the People Meter enable guests who are also watching to participate in the sample by entering their age, sex and viewing status into the system.

In addition to our national measurement, Nielsen currently measures the top 21 local markets using Local People Meter Technology, with plans for a total of 25 markets by 2010.

Set Meter samples
Large to mid-sized local markets below the top 21 (such as Milwaukee, San Antonio and Memphis) are measured by a different type of meter - one that gives information about set-tuning only. In these markets, demographic information is provided by a separate sample of people who fill out seven-day paper diaries (or eight-day diaries in homes with DVRs).


Appreciate the trouble you went to post all of the information already read it before the bottom line is that it's the first air date run, that the Nielsen ratings are calculate on, nothing else. So here's a little tid bit.

The latest Nielsen Ratings


In this section, you will be able to check out the latest soap opera ratings in a variety of areas. First, the industry's measure is the Nielsen ratings system. These numbers are used to rank the various soap operas and the numbers determine how much a show can command for advertising. Each ratings point equals 1,145,000 viewers (so a 2.0 rating means that about 2.256 million people viewed that program).

Please note that these ratings figures only pertain to those viewers watching the first-run daytime airings of each soap. Internet broadcasts and SOAPnet broadcasts are not counted in these figures.

Taken from SOC which gives an accurate depiction of how the rating's are gathered
You are trying to confuse the issue. What does this blurb have to do with Soap Opera Central. The last ratings period they have listed is June 1st. However, their ratings are the same as SON for that time period so...don't get your point.

Toups at SON gets the ratings directly from the network.
To keep from belaboring the point, which isn't confusing the issue, but put in simple terms that's from Nielsen, on how the rating's are calculated. Explaining it to the public, so they would have comprehensive knowledge of how the rating system works. Which is the first run air date of the soaps. So when you look at the dates that are given in the ratings, what you see are the first run air date, nothing else, is the point. What they have up as the latest ratings isn't the issue being discussed, but how the rating's are rendered.
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Phick still sucks regardless of all that is professed about them helping the ratings, 3.4 or 3.5, it's still not "reeling em back in".... :lol: And for some who maintain that they can "move along", IA that some cannot. From pencils to soap to wedding invitations--robot voting---there was some "overkill" to keep that trashy PHICK pairing together. What is freaking hillarious is all those comments I remember that Nick and Phyllis wouldn't cheat and their love is so true and :blah: :blah: :blah: I think some have egg on their faces bout those comments :D

I won't watch PHICK--they are a complete snooze fest :sleep: and Phyllis makes my head hurt with all her loud mouth screeching :redface: and her finger charades :moon: Nick looks completely robotic when he is with Phyllis---not much happiness there.... :shame:
Edited by curlygirl, Sep 11 2009, 10:16 AM.
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I think the only reason they haven't broken up Phick for good is because Phick have fans that are vocal and obviously the writers are aware of that just like they are aware that Shick have fans that are vocal as well which is why Nick hops back and forth between both women. I personally look forward for this to end. I'd like Phyllis to move on with her life and forget about Nick although i'm sure if she did he'd come sniffing around.
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curlygirl
Sep 11 2009, 10:14 AM
Phick still sucks regardless of all that is professed about them helping the ratings, 3.4 or 3.5, it's still not "reeling em back in".... :lol: And for some who maintain that they can "move along", IA that some cannot. From pencils to soap to wedding invitations--robot voting---there was some "overkill" to keep that trashy PHICK pairing together. What is freaking hillarious is all those comments I remember that Nick and Phyllis wouldn't cheat and their love is so true and :blah: :blah: :blah: I think some have egg on their faces bout those comments :D

I won't watch PHICK--they are a complete snooze fest :sleep: and Phyllis makes my head hurt with all her loud mouth screeching :redface: and her finger charades :moon: Nick looks completely robotic when he is with Phyllis---not much happiness there.... :shame:
:sheep: if you think, and I use that term with a giggle, that PHICK fans are the ONLY fans that have done campaigns, (key chains cough cough) then you really need to move into the new age of Soap Opera Fans.
Edited by mll1206, Sep 11 2009, 12:29 PM.
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^Love the banner. That's funny.
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It's sad some have to resort to trying to belittle and insult the poster themselves because they have a weak or non-existent argument. Says more about that particular poster than their so-called argument. Why is it so hard to just debate the topic without resorting to personal insults and slights?

Bottom line is Phick does not bring in the ratings. Period. All the campaigns Phick/Phyllis fans have done - and there have been PLENTY (lol) - and let's not forget the muffins - is proof to me that they know this nasty couple isn't strong enough to stand on their own without the day-in-day-out full-time-job status propping Phick fans crank out every week. That's the best evidence there is that this couple needs all the help they can get because the natural reaction most of the core Y&R audience feels for them is either disgust and repulsion or outright indifference because they are boring. :sleep2:
Edited by soulsistah, Sep 12 2009, 12:30 AM.
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Sep 12 2009, 12:05 AM
^Love the banner. That's funny.
Phick fans have not done a campaign since the beginning of May. They took the summer off.

Muffins? :shrug:

The show takes focus groups, charts mail and phone calls. Support for for Phyllis with Nick is about 2 to 1. Joshua Morrow confirmed the interview we are posting on. ;)
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The Phick fans know about the muffins/baked goods campaign. :pizza: And again, you just proved how much Phick fans have to campaign. When you have individuals writing and calling the show multiple times a day and trying to represent the numbers as higher than they truly are, that tells you the couple isn't strong enough to stand on their own - they need to be constantly propped by distortion of the real numbers of what fans think. Josh doesn't even watch the show (by his own confession), never mind realize what's really going on. Numbers only mean something when they're accurate and the numbers Josh mentioned were his take on the viewer feedback HE receives. Note the ratings and the show message boards absolutely don't reflect these supposed numbers. Why do you think that is? The answer is obvious...it doesn't add up for a reason. :wink:
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Sep 12 2009, 12:36 AM
Nicole Dimera
Sep 12 2009, 12:05 AM
^Love the banner. That's funny.
Phick fans have not done a campaign since the beginning of May. They took the summer off.

Muffins? :shrug:

The show takes focus groups, charts mail and phone calls. Support for for Phyllis with Nick is about 2 to 1. Joshua Morrow confirmed the interview we are posting on. ;)
I read through your arguements regarding Phick. To me, what makes a couple is not the mail in muffin baskets, it should just be a couple who is interesting without the propping like Shick, and that is what the majority of the posters in this thread are alluding to. Shick does not need to setup food strikes to have their couple on screen and have a storyline, Shick prevails by just being a HOT and appealing couple, a couple that has lasted for a good 15 years even after soap divorce. ;)
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mll1206
Sep 10 2009, 05:49 AM
AND the Nielsen ratings for the US have NOTHING to do with the Nielsen ratings for CANADA!!!!!! if the two countries were combined, where are all the Canadian TV shows on our Nielsen Ratings??? the fact that Canada gets the show a day in advance has NOTHING to do with US Nielsen ratings.

I trust Toups and what he provides for us on SON.
Another bottom line is...and I am just saluting & reaffirming, Shick garnered a 4.0 in Feb this year and a 4.1 on April this year for both of their reuniting cabin romps. Phick received a 3.4 on their blissful re-commitment that tanked the shows ratings... ;)
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Sep 11 2009, 11:16 AM
I think the only reason they haven't broken up Phick for good is because Phick have fans that are vocal and obviously the writers are aware of that just like they are aware that Shick have fans that are vocal as well which is why Nick hops back and forth between both women. I personally look forward for this to end. I'd like Phyllis to move on with her life and forget about Nick although i'm sure if she did he'd come sniffing around.
Vocal or not Shick has more fans, and that is evident, otherwise MAB would not venture in elongating Shick's eventual and perpetual reuniting, with their love child Faith Cassidy Newman.... :D
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Sep 12 2009, 01:02 AM
The Phick fans know about the muffins/baked goods campaign. :pizza: And again, you just proved how much Phick fans have to campaign. When you have individuals writing and calling the show multiple times a day and trying to represent the numbers as higher than they truly are, that tells you the couple isn't strong enough to stand on their own - they need to be constantly propped by distortion of the real numbers of what fans think. Josh doesn't even watch the show (by his own confession), never mind realize what's really going on. Numbers only mean something when they're accurate and the numbers Josh mentioned were his take on the viewer feedback HE receives. Note the ratings and the show message boards absolutely don't reflect these supposed numbers. Why do you think that is? The answer is obvious...it doesn't add up for a reason. :wink:
While I'm glad to see that at least it's being acknowledged about the campaigning, rather then the previous denial. I remember all to well the twelve voices of Texas, being used during the phone in campaign by one poster, that was hilarious to read.
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That was the most hilarious thing ever!!! :laugh: Here's a question.If someone calls the Y&R studio at least 12 times in the same day pretending to be 12 different people praising Phick as the greatest thing since the invention of the telephone, how many opinions are really being expressed? Those of 12 people or one person? You get the idea. It's a numbers game and having 12 "fake" people expressing love for Phick is better than just one to TPTB right? So multiply that 12:1 margin out by say 100 or even a 1000 people (and I'm being extremely generous with that number) and what kind of numbers are you looking at saying they "love" Phick? Exactly. It's smoke and mirrors. It's not based on reality or the truth of what the majority of fans are saying.

But because Phick is so repugnant and inherently weak as a couple to so many (they will forever and ever be tainted as the couple who got together in a sleazy affair while a family was grieving a child's death), the numbers have to be distorted each and every month, hence the incessant, never-ending Phick campaigns, charity donations, and robot poll voting (which, btw, was confirmed by "Jake". Lol. Silly). It's all strategic, it's all calculated and planned. It's all targeted. It makes zero difference if Phick fans didn't invent campaigning; the point is the fact they NEED to do it to keep Phick front and centre because this repulsive and offensive couple wouldn't have survived on their own otherwise. Fact. Phick will never be a grand love story that the majority of viewers can root for - and many fans on many message boards have confirmed this by say, "it's the way Phick got together" that makes them a couple undeserving of praise or admiration. That kind of stench never, ever goes away. Phick is tainted forever.

It's very sad and, frankly, pathetic to me that such lengths are taken to keep perpetuating a lie. It must be exhausting having to put on the song and dance routine every day, every week, every month, to try and keep the attention on Phick. :dance: But most fans know it's a lie and I do believe TPTB know these alleged poll/feedback numbers don't add up either and that's why Phick has never had a clean break from Shick or a moment's peace since Shick divorced. Sharon has been smack dab in the middle of Phick's marriage - by Nick's choice :makeout: - from the beginning. Doesn't speak very well of how allegedly popular Phick is if they've never existed outside of Shick's orbit. I don't see that changing any time soon either. In fact, it's only going to get worse for Phick, which it's supposed to as part of the "messy road" back to a Shick reunion. :cheer: :whooohooo:
Edited by soulsistah, Sep 12 2009, 03:09 AM.
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