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Nicole vows never to let Sami get her daughter back;

daisy132

Oct 1 2009, 09:42 PM

magicsteacher

Sep 30 2009, 08:14 AM

Marian

Sep 29 2009, 06:15 PM

Even though I'm an Ejami fan, I can see the logic in Nicole and EJ. She's got a coloured past, kidnapped a baby, let her own husband mourn for a child that isn't his, is involved in the death of Dr B (maybe), etc, etc... EJ is the only young man on that show at the moment who is as corrupt. Bring someone else onto the show and Nicole would have someone worthwhile to hook up with. Leave it as is and EJ is the only viable option. Same goes for Sami... With her past, she really shouldn't end up with a 'good guy' who has no coloured past himself, even if they ARE trying to redeem her. The only kind of good guy that would be viable would be another person who's got a bad history but has tried to redeem himself like she has...

And that may be exactly who Rafe is. If I remember right, Rafe was a bad boy as a teen and young man. He told Sami that he was a street punk, in and out of gangs all the time and was headed down the wrong road until he met up with Sr. Agnes who helped him turn his life around. He has changed his life and they have redeemed Sami. To me, it makes perfect sense for them to be together. She is no longer the person she was and he is no longer the person he was. To pair Sami with EJ, with all he has done, and it is reported he will do when he finds out about Sydney, would not work. They have pushed him too far to the dark side now. JMO.

They have not pushed EJ too far to the dark side at all. He's actually not been there for a while. He's been more his usual "gray" self, and he's been hurt and wronged by everyone he loves - Sami, Nicole and still unknown to him, his father.

IMO the thing about Rafe is that no matter what they try to do with his character he doesn't sell for a lot of people outside of NBC. He just flops as a character, and the more they keep him the more agravating he gets. I enjoyed him a bit with Nicole and the couple of funny lines he had in the Meredith scenes, but that's about it. No doubt they wrote him for Sami, but they are just not getting the desired results. People are actually enjoying the show when he's on less and away from Sami.

magicsteacher

Oct 2 2009, 11:04 AM

daisy132

Oct 1 2009, 09:42 PM

magicsteacher

Sep 30 2009, 08:14 AM

Marian

Sep 29 2009, 06:15 PM

Even though I'm an Ejami fan, I can see the logic in Nicole and EJ. She's got a coloured past, kidnapped a baby, let her own husband mourn for a child that isn't his, is involved in the death of Dr B (maybe), etc, etc... EJ is the only young man on that show at the moment who is as corrupt. Bring someone else onto the show and Nicole would have someone worthwhile to hook up with. Leave it as is and EJ is the only viable option. Same goes for Sami... With her past, she really shouldn't end up with a 'good guy' who has no coloured past himself, even if they ARE trying to redeem her. The only kind of good guy that would be viable would be another person who's got a bad history but has tried to redeem himself like she has...

And that may be exactly who Rafe is. If I remember right, Rafe was a bad boy as a teen and young man. He told Sami that he was a street punk, in and out of gangs all the time and was headed down the wrong road until he met up with Sr. Agnes who helped him turn his life around. He has changed his life and they have redeemed Sami. To me, it makes perfect sense for them to be together. She is no longer the person she was and he is no longer the person he was. To pair Sami with EJ, with all he has done, and it is reported he will do when he finds out about Sydney, would not work. They have pushed him too far to the dark side now. JMO.

They have not pushed EJ too far to the dark side at all. He's actually not been there for a while. He's been more his usual "gray" self, and he's been hurt and wronged by everyone he loves - Sami, Nicole and still unknown to him, his father.

IMO the thing about Rafe is that no matter what they try to do with his character he doesn't sell for a lot of people outside of NBC. He just flops as a character, and the more they keep him the more agravating he gets. I enjoyed him a bit with Nicole and the couple of funny lines he had in the Meredith scenes, but that's about it. No doubt they wrote him for Sami, but they are just not getting the desired results. People are actually enjoying the show when he's on less and away from Sami.

Who is enjoying the show more when Rafe is off and when he is away from Sami? And where was that said? That may be an opinion, but I doubt it is published fact anywhere. I am sure the ejami fans are enjoying it more b/c they want him off the show period so Sami and Ej can reunite. There are many who like Rafe and like Sami and him together. IMO he has brought a lot to the show. The writers are developing his character more and more and I think we will continue to see it develop in the future.
I think they did write him for Sami and they are getting the desired results. SAFE is a very popular couple in many published polls.

SocRMum1

Oct 2 2009, 10:18 AM

michelle

Oct 2 2009, 10:08 AM

They should hook Stephanie and Rafe up! They could sail off into the sunset and be perfectly self righteous and boring together forever and ever.

Oh man! Now there's a thought! And how convenient would it be to have them sharing screen time - it would cut my fast forwarding in half. :D

SocRMum1

Oct 2 2009, 11:16 AM

magicsteacher

Oct 2 2009, 11:04 AM

daisy132

Oct 1 2009, 09:42 PM

magicsteacher

Sep 30 2009, 08:14 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

They have not pushed EJ too far to the dark side at all. He's actually not been there for a while. He's been more his usual "gray" self, and he's been hurt and wronged by everyone he loves - Sami, Nicole and still unknown to him, his father.

IMO the thing about Rafe is that no matter what they try to do with his character he doesn't sell for a lot of people outside of NBC. He just flops as a character, and the more they keep him the more agravating he gets. I enjoyed him a bit with Nicole and the couple of funny lines he had in the Meredith scenes, but that's about it. No doubt they wrote him for Sami, but they are just not getting the desired results. People are actually enjoying the show when he's on less and away from Sami.

Who is enjoying the show more when Rafe is off and when he is away from Sami? And where was that said? That may be an opinion, but I doubt it is published fact anywhere. I am sure the ejami fans are enjoying it more b/c they want him off the show period so Sami and Ej can reunite. There are many who like Rafe and like Sami and him together. IMO he has brought a lot to the show. The writers are developing his character more and more and I think we will continue to see it develop in the future.
I think they did write him for Sami and they are getting the desired results. SAFE is a very popular couple in many published polls.

*raises hand and jumps up and down* Me! Me!!! I have enjoyed the show TREMENDOUSLY the past two weeks ! Coincidentally or not, there has been precious little of Rafe on screen, and when he's been on he's basically supposed to be unconcious...not just seeming to be.

As for the published polls...we've seen the fan bases go round and round and round about how much they matter, whether they are spammable, etc. I personally don't use it as a measuring stick for the popularity of a pairing - and I say that knowing that EJami wins a tremendous number of polls.

At the end of the day all any of us can do is speak to whether the show is entertaining us...and right now, it is and not because I'm a EJami fan. They haven't shared a scene in weeks. But I am happy to see the reveal coming about piece by piece, I'm enjoying Stefano and Kate, I've enjoyed the Chad/Mia/Will scenes, I love that we see Maggie on a consistent basis, and I am really taken with Nathan and (shockingly!) Melanie. It's been a great two weeks for me because of those things - and the fact that Rafe, Safe, and Stephanie have taken up so little screen time.

It's simple math for me - more of the things I love - less of the things I don't = happy viewer. :D

Mason

Sep 30 2009, 02:00 PM

Angie79

Sep 30 2009, 01:46 PM

Kate gloats to Victor about her post at DiMera Enterprises.

Eeee! They're finally making Kate a businesswoman again?! Thank God! That Hearth & Home shit didn't fit her at all.

michelle

Oct 2 2009, 10:08 AM

They should hook Stephanie and Rafe up! They could sail off into the sunset and be perfectly self righteous and boring together forever and ever.

magicsteacher

Oct 2 2009, 11:04 AM

daisy132

Oct 1 2009, 09:42 PM

magicsteacher

Sep 30 2009, 08:14 AM

Marian

Sep 29 2009, 06:15 PM

Even though I'm an Ejami fan, I can see the logic in Nicole and EJ. She's got a coloured past, kidnapped a baby, let her own husband mourn for a child that isn't his, is involved in the death of Dr B (maybe), etc, etc... EJ is the only young man on that show at the moment who is as corrupt. Bring someone else onto the show and Nicole would have someone worthwhile to hook up with. Leave it as is and EJ is the only viable option. Same goes for Sami... With her past, she really shouldn't end up with a 'good guy' who has no coloured past himself, even if they ARE trying to redeem her. The only kind of good guy that would be viable would be another person who's got a bad history but has tried to redeem himself like she has...

And that may be exactly who Rafe is. If I remember right, Rafe was a bad boy as a teen and young man. He told Sami that he was a street punk, in and out of gangs all the time and was headed down the wrong road until he met up with Sr. Agnes who helped him turn his life around. He has changed his life and they have redeemed Sami. To me, it makes perfect sense for them to be together. She is no longer the person she was and he is no longer the person he was. To pair Sami with EJ, with all he has done, and it is reported he will do when he finds out about Sydney, would not work. They have pushed him too far to the dark side now. JMO.

They have not pushed EJ too far to the dark side at all. He's actually not been there for a while. He's been more his usual "gray" self, and he's been hurt and wronged by everyone he loves - Sami, Nicole and still unknown to him, his father.

IMO the thing about Rafe is that no matter what they try to do with his character he doesn't sell for a lot of people outside of NBC. He just flops as a character, and the more they keep him the more agravating he gets. I enjoyed him a bit with Nicole and the couple of funny lines he had in the Meredith scenes, but that's about it. No doubt they wrote him for Sami, but they are just not getting the desired results. People are actually enjoying the show when he's on less and away from Sami.

Who is enjoying the show more when Rafe is off and when he is away from Sami? And where was that said? That may be an opinion, but I doubt it is published fact anywhere. I am sure the ejami fans are enjoying it more b/c they want him off the show period so Sami and Ej can reunite. There are many who like Rafe and like Sami and him together. IMO he has brought a lot to the show. The writers are developing his character more and more and I think we will continue to see it develop in the future.
I think they did write him for Sami and they are getting the desired results. SAFE is a very popular couple in many published polls.

aimees76

Oct 3 2009, 11:21 AM

LMAO! I can see it now ...
EJ: Samanther, Sydney is our daughter, can you believe it?
Sami: It's a miracle, I can't believe it, our daughter is alive.
EJ: So we should totally hook back up now, since we have two kids now, right?
Sami: Oh definitely, let's get married.
EJ: K.

SocRMum1

Oct 3 2009, 01:18 PM

aimees76

Oct 3 2009, 11:21 AM

LMAO! I can see it now ...
EJ: Samanther, Sydney is our daughter, can you believe it?
Sami: It's a miracle, I can't believe it, our daughter is alive.
EJ: So we should totally hook back up now, since we have two kids now, right?
Sami: Oh definitely, let's get married.
EJ: K.

Works for me. ;)

daisy132

Oct 2 2009, 08:44 PM

magicsteacher

Oct 2 2009, 11:04 AM

daisy132

Oct 1 2009, 09:42 PM

magicsteacher

Sep 30 2009, 08:14 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

They have not pushed EJ too far to the dark side at all. He's actually not been there for a while. He's been more his usual "gray" self, and he's been hurt and wronged by everyone he loves - Sami, Nicole and still unknown to him, his father.

IMO the thing about Rafe is that no matter what they try to do with his character he doesn't sell for a lot of people outside of NBC. He just flops as a character, and the more they keep him the more agravating he gets. I enjoyed him a bit with Nicole and the couple of funny lines he had in the Meredith scenes, but that's about it. No doubt they wrote him for Sami, but they are just not getting the desired results. People are actually enjoying the show when he's on less and away from Sami.

Who is enjoying the show more when Rafe is off and when he is away from Sami? And where was that said? That may be an opinion, but I doubt it is published fact anywhere. I am sure the ejami fans are enjoying it more b/c they want him off the show period so Sami and Ej can reunite. There are many who like Rafe and like Sami and him together. IMO he has brought a lot to the show. The writers are developing his character more and more and I think we will continue to see it develop in the future.
I think they did write him for Sami and they are getting the desired results. SAFE is a very popular couple in many published polls.

Apparently they are not getting the desired results (I did mention not to count NBC, which is mostly a Safe board, and before that it was mostly a Lumi board and Ejami fans were allowed there only on principle and suspended for mearly breathing while others were allowed (and still are) to pretty much verbally assault them). Not many here like them, and certainly not many at Sony. And as for the polls, if you are referring to SOD, before Safe, Ejami won for weeks at a time, and they didn't even share screen time together. We didn't get Ejami yet, and Safe's been on for a year now, so pretty soon we may be looking at Cafe as a new couple. I might actually enjoy that....

angmc

Oct 3 2009, 01:35 PM

SocRMum1

Oct 3 2009, 01:18 PM

aimees76

Oct 3 2009, 11:21 AM

LMAO! I can see it now ...
EJ: Samanther, Sydney is our daughter, can you believe it?
Sami: It's a miracle, I can't believe it, our daughter is alive.
EJ: So we should totally hook back up now, since we have two kids now, right?
Sami: Oh definitely, let's get married.
EJ: K.

Works for me. ;)

And I'm sure there are a handful of fans who would be happy to see the name Lucas substituted for EJ. Posted Image

aimees76

Oct 3 2009, 01:50 PM

angmc

Oct 3 2009, 01:35 PM

SocRMum1

Oct 3 2009, 01:18 PM

aimees76

Oct 3 2009, 11:21 AM

LMAO! I can see it now ...
EJ: Samanther, Sydney is our daughter, can you believe it?
Sami: It's a miracle, I can't believe it, our daughter is alive.
EJ: So we should totally hook back up now, since we have two kids now, right?
Sami: Oh definitely, let's get married.
EJ: K.

Works for me. ;)

And I'm sure there are a handful of fans who would be happy to see the name Lucas substituted for EJ. Posted Image

First of all, a handful? Come on ... :eyeroll:
Secondly, this Lumi fan would never want or expect to see Lucas and Sami slapped back together unrealistically. I would watch a slow build to a reunion that lasted years if the story was written well. I just think the EJ and Sami reunion once they discover Sydney is their's is really unrealistic, rushed, and frankly presumptious. There is nothing in the writing to indicate that Sami would want anything to do with EJ under any circumstances, and I highly doubt that discovering that their child is alive would change that.

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First of all, a handful? Come on ... :eyeroll: