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Spoilers for wk of November 2nd; *UPDATED 10/31*
Topic Started: Oct 22 2009, 01:19 PM (12,912 Views)
kenseysmom
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magicsteacher
Oct 22 2009, 07:57 PM
angmc
Oct 22 2009, 04:53 PM
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Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM
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Oct 22 2009, 03:31 PM

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Mmmm...you're probably right. Because Lord knows it will be WAY more important to Rafe to sneak in and make out with her before telling her something important like her daughter is alive and well and being raised by somebody else. :huh:
We all have our priorities Sheri! ;)

I wonder what Lexie is warning Chad about? :huh: What else can she do at this point?
Changed my mind on this one. I would bet that Rafe sneaks into the townhouse to get DNA evidence before he tells Sami about the switch. He never wanted to go to her without proof before and I doubt he will now either.
Im just hoping they dont keep giving us "near misses" with Rafe sneaking around and Sami JUST missing seeing him! Really...Im ready for a reunion and I dont mean the two of them in the same room!! Im ready for some good ole SAFE scenes :) I agree, though, the DNA evidence he collected must be awful soggy..may need to get more..
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magicsteacher
Oct 22 2009, 07:57 PM
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Oct 22 2009, 04:53 PM
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Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM
magicsteacher
Oct 22 2009, 03:31 PM

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Mmmm...you're probably right. Because Lord knows it will be WAY more important to Rafe to sneak in and make out with her before telling her something important like her daughter is alive and well and being raised by somebody else. :huh:
We all have our priorities Sheri! ;)

I wonder what Lexie is warning Chad about? :huh: What else can she do at this point?
Changed my mind on this one. I would bet that Rafe sneaks into the townhouse to get DNA evidence before he tells Sami about the switch. He never wanted to go to her without proof before and I doubt he will now either.
Right...because poor little fragile Sami can't be trusted to handle the fact that Sydney might be her biological daughter. Much better for Rafe to keep that from her until he can 'prove' it - and in the meantime, allow Nicole to keep right on raising Sami's daughter right under her nose. :shame:
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Oh give me a break. You guys act like the man is doing something so horribly wrong. The best thing for Rafe to do is get proof first before running his mouth. He doesn't know for sure that Sydney is actually Sami's baby and he doesn't have the proof either so if you're gonna claim something like that you better be able to back it up especially dealing with STefano and Nicole.
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Nicole Dimera
Oct 23 2009, 01:37 AM
Oh give me a break. You guys act like the man is doing something so horribly wrong. The best thing for Rafe to do is get proof first before running his mouth. He doesn't know for sure that Sydney is actually Sami's baby and he doesn't have the proof either so if you're gonna claim something like that you better be able to back it up especially dealing with STefano and Nicole.
So it's better to sneak in to Sami's home to steal DNA rather than simply tell her of his suspicions and get her cooperation on getting the DNA samples? I don't see it that way. She's not a fragile flower - if he feels strongly enough about it to sneak in to her home (more than once) he should tell her about it. If he's wrong, so be it. But the secrecy with this guy just gets old.
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Oct 22 2009, 03:57 PM
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Oct 22 2009, 03:50 PM
What happened to Meredeth? Is she dead? Is that why Rafe is hiding? Is she going to be forgotten until detective Rafe discovers another big secret?

I can't wait to hear why Bo and Hope are arguing over Carly. What does "up and leave 'em" Hope has to say about this.
Thanks, Angie!
Yep I'm not sure what Hopes problem is either.She has this great guy with Bo but she leaves him to move in with Victor?
she gets what she deserves if she continues to leave her man. someone is always willing to take him if shes willing to be stupid enough to give him up. Hope really needs to recheck her own self motives on this and put away that ego of hers because someday Bo might just get tierd of trying to be good enough for her.
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Oct 22 2009, 03:50 PM
What happened to Meredeth?
She's hanging out with Owen.
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"So it's better to sneak in to Sami's home to steal DNA rather than simply tell her of his suspicions and get her cooperation on getting the DNA samples? I don't see it that way. She's not a fragile flower - if he feels strongly enough about it to sneak in to her home (more than once) he should tell her about it. If he's wrong, so be it. But the secrecy with this guy just gets old."

She is fragile when it comes to losing Grace and possibly losing another child. The dumbest thing for Rafe to do is to tell Sami and have Stefano and Nicole find out. They could easily alter the DNA results and trust me it would totally crash Sami's world if she get her hopes up again. You have to think smart. Rafe is not trying to hurt Sami, he's only trying to help her.
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Oct 23 2009, 11:22 AM
"So it's better to sneak in to Sami's home to steal DNA rather than simply tell her of his suspicions and get her cooperation on getting the DNA samples? I don't see it that way. She's not a fragile flower - if he feels strongly enough about it to sneak in to her home (more than once) he should tell her about it. If he's wrong, so be it. But the secrecy with this guy just gets old."

She is fragile when it comes to losing Grace and possibly losing another child. The dumbest thing for Rafe to do is to tell Sami and have Stefano and Nicole find out. They could easily alter the DNA results and trust me it would totally crash Sami's world if she get her hopes up again. You have to think smart. Rafe is not trying to hurt Sami, he's only trying to help her.
ITA, Sami isn't a fragile flower UNTIL it comes to her children and although she has a strong exterior you can still tell that's the one area that could break Sami. Especially seen in those power scenes when she broke down about Grace with her dad and Rafe. And let's not forget Sami already thought Rafe was going off the deep end about Grace's death when he would worry about her n Nicole being friends so you could just imagine if he told her the switch story without proof she would probably think he needs therapy from her Mom. So I think he's right in not saying anything thus far.
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Oct 23 2009, 12:02 PM
Nicole Dimera
Oct 23 2009, 11:22 AM
"So it's better to sneak in to Sami's home to steal DNA rather than simply tell her of his suspicions and get her cooperation on getting the DNA samples? I don't see it that way. She's not a fragile flower - if he feels strongly enough about it to sneak in to her home (more than once) he should tell her about it. If he's wrong, so be it. But the secrecy with this guy just gets old."

She is fragile when it comes to losing Grace and possibly losing another child. The dumbest thing for Rafe to do is to tell Sami and have Stefano and Nicole find out. They could easily alter the DNA results and trust me it would totally crash Sami's world if she get her hopes up again. You have to think smart. Rafe is not trying to hurt Sami, he's only trying to help her.
ITA, Sami isn't a fragile flower UNTIL it comes to her children and although she has a strong exterior you can still tell that's the one area that could break Sami. Especially seen in those power scenes when she broke down about Grace with her dad and Rafe. And let's not forget Sami already thought Rafe was going off the deep end about Grace's death when he would worry about her n Nicole being friends so you could just imagine if he told her the switch story without proof she would probably think he needs therapy from her Mom. So I think he's right in not saying anything thus far.
ITA, If this is what we think it is... The week of October the 26th both Nicole & Stef try to tell Sami the truth... both fail. So if we look at this future history, then we will note that telling Sami that Sydney is hers will not be easy, the past few weeks may be opened up to Rafe by Ari or by Sami (if Sami sees him before the sneak in...). And especially if he finds out about Mia & Chad, he's gonna have to go gently into the truth, and make sure there are no mistakes in his theories. We know the truth is a fact, but he doesn't. All he knows is his theory, make sense of the whole fiasco.

Mia is distraught over Will? What does Will do? DId I read that right? Isn't she fixing to have enough dumped on her plate?
Edited by kitkat, Oct 23 2009, 02:52 PM.
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I may have missed something since I'm neither a Sami nor a Rafe fan, but why are we talking about Rafe concealing the truth from her? It's been a long time and my memory's not that good, but I thought Rafe got whacked in the head by Meredith before he could tell Sami what he had figured out--didn't he even leave her a phone message before he got attacked? Since then he's been floating for some undetermined period before being rescued by Carly and he's been only semi-conscious. The spoilers for next Friday say he makes contact with Arianna and tells her what he knows, and then the following week all we know is he sees Sami. Do we know for sure he doesn't tell Sami when he finds her?

I don't see it as a big deal that he tells Arianna first. She's his sister and they're apparently close, though I'm still not sure how that can be given their backstory full of holes. She's been his sounding board to some extent, and for all I know he's not sure how kindly Sami will receive him since he doesn't know why she thinks he hasn't been in touch with her. I mean, if he tells Arianna and then goes straight to Sami I don't see that as a big deal. It's all just plot point writing anyway to drag out the reveal.
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Oct 23 2009, 03:08 PM
I may have missed something since I'm neither a Sami nor a Rafe fan, but why are we talking about Rafe concealing the truth from her? It's been a long time and my memory's not that good, but I thought Rafe got whacked in the head by Meredith before he could tell Sami what he had figured out--didn't he even leave her a phone message before he got attacked? Since then he's been floating for some undetermined period before being rescued by Carly and he's been only semi-conscious. The spoilers for next Friday say he makes contact with Arianna and tells her what he knows, and then the following week all we know is he sees Sami. Do we know for sure he doesn't tell Sami when he finds her?

I don't see it as a big deal that he tells Arianna first. She's his sister and they're apparently close, though I'm still not sure how that can be given their backstory full of holes. She's been his sounding board to some extent, and for all I know he's not sure how kindly Sami will receive him since he doesn't know why she thinks he hasn't been in touch with her. I mean, if he tells Arianna and then goes straight to Sami I don't see that as a big deal. It's all just plot point writing anyway to drag out the reveal.
Everybody is theorizing why Rafe sneaks into Sami's place... The Rafe bashers are making him seem evil for doing so, like he is trying to conceal the truth ... And the Rafe supporters are giving plausable reasoning.... That is all...
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Well its simple really. The Ejami fans want desperately for Rafe to be an interloper, so they need for him to do something wrong to make him one, since he hasn't really done anything all that terribly bad to Sami (that could even hold a candle to what EJ has done) they need to grasp to the idea that Rafe might intentionally keep the truth from Sami, even if only for a short time, because he is so worried that Sami will go running back to EJ (roflmao) once she knows their child is alive. Safe fans, of course, want Rafe to be Sami's hero, which it unfortunately looks like he will be, even though his entire purpose has been to steal Lucas's place/story that should have been his, but I digress. I am not a Rafe fan, but I don't hate the guy, and I don't need him to be a bad guy to have hope for Lumi, so I couldn't really care much less about if/when/why Rafe spills about Syd.

As a parting thought to my ramblings ... all roads do not necessarily lead back to Ejami, or Safe, or even my Lumi.
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I for one cant wait till all this juicy SAFE stuff goes down! FINALLY saw the spoiler pic of them! My GOSH it feels like its been forever!! I just hope we can get through this next week quickly and get to when Sami and her man reunite :)
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kitkat
Oct 23 2009, 03:31 PM
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Oct 23 2009, 03:08 PM
I may have missed something since I'm neither a Sami nor a Rafe fan, but why are we talking about Rafe concealing the truth from her? It's been a long time and my memory's not that good, but I thought Rafe got whacked in the head by Meredith before he could tell Sami what he had figured out--didn't he even leave her a phone message before he got attacked? Since then he's been floating for some undetermined period before being rescued by Carly and he's been only semi-conscious. The spoilers for next Friday say he makes contact with Arianna and tells her what he knows, and then the following week all we know is he sees Sami. Do we know for sure he doesn't tell Sami when he finds her?

I don't see it as a big deal that he tells Arianna first. She's his sister and they're apparently close, though I'm still not sure how that can be given their backstory full of holes. She's been his sounding board to some extent, and for all I know he's not sure how kindly Sami will receive him since he doesn't know why she thinks he hasn't been in touch with her. I mean, if he tells Arianna and then goes straight to Sami I don't see that as a big deal. It's all just plot point writing anyway to drag out the reveal.
Everybody is theorizing why Rafe sneaks into Sami's place... The Rafe bashers are making him seem evil for doing so, like he is trying to conceal the truth ... And the Rafe supporters are giving plausable reasoning.... That is all...
:roflol: :roflol: Okay....

But to clarify, I'm not saying he's being evil by not telling her the truth. I really don't think he could pull that off. It's just his typical chauvanistic self. This is the same guy who forbids her from daring to ask for any details about his past - pesky things like why he's accused of killing his ex. Apparently, that's not for her to be concerned with. So it holds with the character. Per Rafe - Sami is to be seen and not heard. Nor can she be trusted to make a decision on her own and God forbid he discuss anything of any significance with her.

Stepford Sami = happy Rafe. :wub2:
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Oct 23 2009, 03:45 PM
Well its simple really. The Ejami fans want desperately for Rafe to be an interloper, so they need for him to do something wrong to make him one, since he hasn't really done anything all that terribly bad to Sami (that could even hold a candle to what EJ has done) they need to grasp to the idea that Rafe might intentionally keep the truth from Sami, even if only for a short time, because he is so worried that Sami will go running back to EJ (roflmao) once she knows their child is alive. Safe fans, of course, want Rafe to be Sami's hero, which it unfortunately looks like he will be, even though his entire purpose has been to steal Lucas's place/story that should have been his, but I digress. I am not a Rafe fan, but I don't hate the guy, and I don't need him to be a bad guy to have hope for Lumi, so I couldn't really care much less about if/when/why Rafe spills about Syd.

As a parting thought to my ramblings ... all roads do not necessarily lead back to Ejami, or Safe, or even my Lumi.
Oh, aimee! I love it when you call it like it is! :iloveyou:

And it makes me smile about the Rafe taking Lucas' part. You are right...this really could be his story if they didn't fuck it up so bad. I almost wished that they would have played it as Lucas pretended to be daddy and having EJ figuring it out. Thier rivalry kind of fizzled once Lucas shot EJ.
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