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Weekly Discussion: 10/26 - 10/30; Video of 10/26 episode included
Topic Started: Oct 24 2009, 10:33 PM (13,730 Views)
Halloween Family
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Liz<3Days
Oct 30 2009, 10:26 PM
How is being left at the alter, paying? Seriously? And getting framed by Kate and being on death row was not of her doing. So Nicole was in jail for Trents murder...can I use that to count as Nicole already paying for the baby switch now???

I want to know just when has she even questioned FOR HER CRIMES at the Brady Police Dept? Was it the time she switched the paternity tests..TWICE? How about kidnapping her sister? How about impersonating a US solider? Nope...dont remember good ol' uncle Abe or "daddy" ever bring ing her down???

And thats not talking about the insta-forgiveness by her own family...they just say "oh, sami" and all is forgiven.

How about just this year, the woman practically gets the keys to the city in outsmarting EJ by keeping Grace.

That's why I never bought this character's sob stories...and she can do all the ugly crying in the world....no ounce of sympathy from me!
I'm not saying you are wrong on any of your points but Sami has been around for 15+ years, she epitomized the underdog and it's only recently where she's supposed to be the "good girl". Nicole is my favorite character right now but my allegiance is with Sami because I've seen all her trials and tribulations during that span. Nicole on the other hand had a terrible childhood that included porn and I would never in a million years ever fault someone being abused but at the same time we didn't see all these things onscreen and the characters mentioning it now and again isn't any worse than any of the other villians crimes' being dredged up. I just don't see Nicole getting unfair treatment, not by the writer and not by the online viewers.

ETA: I do see what may or may not have been your point, or partially anyway, about the porn thing. It's one thing to have a character who is angry or is enemies with Nicole throw it in her face but people like Bo & Hope should have been a little more sympathetic about the gravity of it as oppose to being so heehee about it. I would expect Chad to bring it up because of his situation and it would be concerning to know your child is being exposed to someone who has been scared by that industry. However, Nicole should have said something about her being underage and just having a copy is crime. Even Sami can say something about it not being Nicole's fault, now that they are friends.

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SpriteEyes--I too think Arianna and Roman have chemistry. I'm not sure what kind it is, if it's romantic, collegial, paternal, platonic or what but Ari is a B-O-R-I-N-G but when she's with Roman she's slightly more interesting.
Edited by Halloween Family, Oct 31 2009, 12:44 PM.
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at this point i think sami is really just angry/flabbergasted at ej for the way he is treating sydney, and that's why we're seeing her flip-flop between wanting ej to raise sydney and not wanting him to raise grace. when he found out about grace he threw his little temper tantrum about how he would have been a good father, and how he had the right to know about his child, but he's now confronted with a situation where he has the chance to fight for his daughter and he refuses. even though sami always claims she was keeping grace from evil ej and his evil family, we had several scenes where both she and rafe admitted that ej was a great father. now i think sami is starting to see that ej might be even more like his own father(only caring about biology and the 'dimera' bloodline) than she feared, and she let all that anger loose on stefano when she confronted him in the hospital.



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Not that I ever want to see Sami and EJ in a romance, but I think Sami is certainly traumatized by her romantic feelings for EJ and what it means about her. Rafe is the kind of guy she is supposed to be with, sort of an Austin clone. But EJ is dangerous, bad, and evil, everything Sami doesn't want to be anymore. I think that explains her nutso interactions with EJ.
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I have to say this week was good Monday-Friday and I don't think I FF one scene.

As I watched Thursday and Friday I was thinking where is Kate as I missed her(not that blue streak though) on screen, something I haven't said in years. Her marrying Stefano was a damn good idea for her character.

Seeing Joe M. get so much screentime has been a treat, especially since the writing was there as well.

Who is this Ryan Quan guy, the 3 or 4 shows I remember him writing have been great?

I am trying my best to really like CC, but so far she hasn't impressed me all that much. I never watched GL, so when I hear Crystal is one of daytime's best actresses I just dont see it. Not yet anyway. Having said that I want to see her in scenes with Hope, Kate, and Vivian and see if she holds her own.

Tylerbo wherever he is, must be have multiple orgasms as he has always posted about wanting/obsessing over Vivian's return.

After all this randomness, I can't wait for next week. The show is on fire for me!
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Oct 28 2009, 09:10 AM
Roman needs a girlfriend and a storyline. Why not hook those two up?
A 30-year age difference would be Reason #1.

I do agree that Lindsay Hartley is being done no favors by having 80% of her scenes with one person. Arianna and Brady do not sizzle. Their "romance" feels so random. LH has done much better in scenes with Victor, Roman, Sami, Rafe, and even her studly drug contact.
Edited by dooldooldool, Oct 31 2009, 05:31 PM.
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Marian


Wow! People feel VERY passionate about Sami not being/being portrayed in a better light than Nicole, don't they? I was just referring to the current situation when I was referring to Sami not being as bad as Nicole. I didn't take either of their pasts into consideration. Didn't mean to ruffle feathers. Was just putting my opinion out there. I'm a mother and the thought of being given another woman's child chills me. The thought of thinking my child is dead when she's really alive chills me. Not knowing my child is dead (thinking of Mia and Chad) chills me. Mourning for a child that wasn't even mine, CHILLS me (thinking of EJ and Grace) - how could she let her own husband go through that kind of pain no matter what Stefano said to her. And now letting him think that Syd isn't his and going as far as trying to leave the country? How can anyone feel any sympathy for her self-pity?
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Marian
Oct 31 2009, 07:06 PM
How can anyone feel any sympathy for her self-pity?
Because it's a soap, LoL.
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Does Mia still live with Maggie? I get that her parents aren't in the picture, but at this point I really feel like some adult that she has an actual tie to should be involved in this situation. If ever there were a time for Maggie to interfere, this is it.
Edited by lysie, Oct 31 2009, 07:28 PM.
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^^ I agree. Instead of having Maggie peeking in Bo's window, or lecturing Nathan and Melanie about their relatively harmless relationship, she should be picking up cues from Mia that something is seriously wrong. Although I guess that would interfere with the various plot points of the baby switch.
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Mason
Oct 31 2009, 07:09 PM
Marian
Oct 31 2009, 07:06 PM
How can anyone feel any sympathy for her self-pity?
Because it's a soap, LoL.
LOL! No shit. I can't relate to any of the "mothers" on this show...and I got three kids!
But I got sympathy for all of them. LOL!
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daysfanbaby


**Ejanna have officially began let the fun begin :cheer:


I am super excited to see how this storyline plays out whether it's short or long term. It'll be refreshing after all the baby drama. I love how on friday's epi ej's interest was peaked when he read arianna's name. and now hearing how next week he's 'taken in by her spunk and sensitivity'. :makeout: I'm guessing that in his mind on friday, he was thinking how he can use her to his advantage (obv since he doesnt know her yet). And they meet and he mite start to manipulate her. Buttt, i see it changingg as the story plays out. I think he will start to feel smthg for her, at first just attraction but as time goes on could develop into feelings.

I have no idea if they will grow into smthg big or just a shortterm coupling, but either way im psyched cause i just know they are going to be hot and smoldering together. Both actors have that in them so im waiting on edge of my seat to see it on my screen.

**Big plus to this pairing also is all the jealousy surrounding it from other characters that'll be fun to watch, from brady to nicole to sami (and rafe just pissed) loll. fun drama. :laugh:

*(I do enjoy ejami as a couple, and sorry if it slows down any reconciliations, but ive been dyin to see LH and JS paired up in any capacity since i heard she was coming to dool so i really want to see it played out before/if he reunites with sami (who i also luv).
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Okay, just finished watching this week, and I have a few fleeting thoughts....which are mostly superficial.

Could James Scott look any hotter??? I mean seriously, I've always thought he looked good, but DANG he's looking mighty good these days.

Why Oh Why did Rafe have to come back? I guess we're going to have to have him for the "big reveal" but I sure was liking Salem sans ole Rafe.

Can anyone say Auntie Viv?? Loving her climatic return....big hat and all!!

Agree with everyone else, CC isn't impressing me...............yet.

I can't wait for Nicole to get hers, she's just pushed it too far.....but let me be clear.....I want her to be punished, BUT I don't want her going anywhere longterm, Salem just wouldn't be the same without her!

Loving Stefano.....loving Stefano & Kate...

Get EJ OUT of the drug business, it's so beneath him.......EJ Dimera is too smart for the drug business!

Arianna & Brady.... :sleep: If we're going to pair Arianna off with someone else, why EJ?? Why shackle him with another one of the forced Passions folk?? JS is one of the few actors who could carry a storyline all by himself! How bout we give Lucas a try?? There's someone who could use a story!!

Sami.....what can I say.......even when she gets on my nerves I still love the girl..........I can't help but root for her! I've watched her for far too long.

And what else can I say EJ & Sami can still bring it even in the Java Cafe, their chemistry jumps off the screen! I hope tptb know what they've got there.............I've got a sneaking suspicion they do!! ;)

Overall, great week DAYS....you've got me hooked once again!!
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cassie1013


Wait...what? MIA is living with Maggie, as is Melanie? WTF?
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This week was so good! Event though the baby switch did not come out! The Ejami scenes were very very good it makes me super excited for next week!
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☼ Jinx ☼
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Why did Mia tell that lie to Chad about sleeping with various boys? She isn't really doing all that much good for Sydney right now, and she is sacrificing what she has with Will. Her thinking that Nicole is an ideal mother proves she isn't thinking too straight.
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☼ Jinx ☼
Nov 1 2009, 12:54 PM
Why did Mia tell that lie to Chad about sleeping with various boys?
So that Chad will believe he's not the father of her baby.
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Mason
Nov 1 2009, 02:07 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 12:54 PM
Why did Mia tell that lie to Chad about sleeping with various boys?
So that Chad will believe he's not the father of her baby.
Well yeah, but I kinda meant, why is she willing to risk so much? Sydney is not her child anymore.
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Nov 1 2009, 02:21 PM
Mason
Nov 1 2009, 02:07 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 12:54 PM
Why did Mia tell that lie to Chad about sleeping with various boys?
So that Chad will believe he's not the father of her baby.
Well yeah, but I kinda meant, why is she willing to risk so much?
Because she's an idiot.
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Mason
Nov 1 2009, 02:50 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 02:21 PM
Mason
Nov 1 2009, 02:07 PM
☼ Jinx ☼
Nov 1 2009, 12:54 PM
Why did Mia tell that lie to Chad about sleeping with various boys?
So that Chad will believe he's not the father of her baby.
Well yeah, but I kinda meant, why is she willing to risk so much?
Because she's an idiot.
That's exactly the answer I was looking for.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

IMissAremid
Oct 30 2009, 11:00 PM
I don't really have a problem with Sami bitching out Nicole when all is said and done in this reveal when they have made Sami such an idiot over the past few months thinking Nicole is her new bestie and bending over backwards to help her keep Sydney. Nicole hasn't just done what Sami did in keeping a paternity a secret. She's gone above and beyond keeping a teenage girl and her ex-boyfriend from having the chance to rightly grieve their dead baby and prevented a hurting EJ and Sami from knowing their daughter together is really alive. And she's doing this all out of selfishness thinking she's entitled to this baby because she went through the miscarriage. I just don't buy the contention that Nicole was just trying to reunite EJ with his real child by swapping the kids. I think there was some underlying jealousy/hatred of Sami there that compelled her to switch them and I always saw her switching the kids as some backup plan so that if anyone ever questioned her she could still have EJ's DNA and the baby's DNA match up. This whole business of allowing EJ to be with his real flesh and blood was just her justification from this whole scam and her not telling him the whole truth when he thinks Sydney is not his biologically just shows that to me even more. I mean... her keeping everything a secret and keeping everything going til the end and playing on Sami's sympathy knowing she is grieving a dead baby that wasn't even hers and that she has Sami's real child... that's just a whole other level of evil and selfishness that no amount of Nicole's crocodile tears can wash away for me.

That said, I don't want Nicole off the show or killed off or anything like that. I just want to see her sufficiently punished and humbled and alone so that I can root for her again as she tries to pick up the pieces of her life.

That said, there is some hypocrisy or at least inconsistency that is baffling me right now as far as Sami is concerned. I just don't get that Sami was supposedly so afraid of Stefano and her baby being raised under a DiMera roof that she had to keep her pregnancy a secret from everyone in the WPP yet she is like the biggest cheerleader ever for EJ raising Sydney when there's another father around who, yeah maybe he's a teenager and been to reform school for pot recently, but is willing to step up to the plate and be a parent to the kid. If she really thought EJ and the DiMeras were as awful as she made them out to be when she was trying to keep the baby she thought was hers from them, why is she so deadset on subjecting this other baby to their corrupting influence?
I am head over heels in love with this post. :hail: :hail:
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