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SOD/SOW: Sami and Rafe reunite!; Nov 10th issues; Summary of Articles
Topic Started: Oct 28 2009, 01:21 PM (12,347 Views)
daisy132


kitkat
Oct 30 2009, 02:38 PM
okay, just so you know, this was an abbreviation of the article from SOW-- This is what the actually article left us with....

Why I love Rafe.... by kitkat

Galen, now I'm summarizing somewhat, said that Rafe is willing to do anything to put Sydney back in Sami's arms, if she is indeed hers. No matter what it takes, if it takes him putting them both with EJ in the end, so be it. (pretty much his exact words)

He yearns for her happiness, not his, not anyone else's, hers. That is the definition of real love, EJ has never shown that. Not to Sami and not to Nicole, the argument of these two could go on for infinity, but that will always hold true-- at least from what we've seen so far.
I hope he does and then rides off into the sunset to save the next damsel in distress.
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Taelyn
Oct 31 2009, 04:46 PM
angmc
Oct 30 2009, 10:57 PM
IMissAremid
Oct 30 2009, 09:56 PM
Taelyn
Oct 30 2009, 07:50 PM
All the signs point to Safe.
The flashbacks, the dreams, Carly is comparing him to Bo without even knowing him.
The attempts on his life, His struggle to do anything for the woman he loves.
All signs of a great soap love.

EJ is NOT being redeemed , Now he has become a Major "Drug Dealer Kingpin"
In the past Drugs were always "Beneath, and Off limits" for Victor and Stephano.. Times have changed though I guess.

EJ may harbor feelings for Sami, but they are not returned, If they force her to again be ith EJ to have access to Sydney it will only be a repeat of EJ forcing himself on her and keeping her an emotional prisoner.
Not getting into Safe vs. Ejami for the moment, but it's nonsense to claim that drugs were "beneath and off limits" for Victor and Stefano in the past. Victor came to Salem in the 80s a straight up mobster making his money off drugs and porn/prostitution. Stefano was a drug runner in the 80s too. It was part of the myriad criminal activities Roman Brady originally attempted to bust him for back then.
Don't start getting all technical with facts and history and messy stuff like that. :laugh:
:omg:
Especially when "facts" are picked at like a chicken at dinner time just to suit ones preference.

The FACT is Sami does not love or want to be with Ej
The FACT is Sami has voiced repeatedly her Love for Rafe, and her desire to be with him, a thing she has NEVER done with EJ. (Another FACT)
The FACT is ... ALL signs pont to Safe if ones looks back in History at the best love stories, and how couples are built and certain aspects such as flashback, dreams of their times together, or reunions yet to happen... and such. :rockon:

So if Facts are going to be adhered to perhaps its best not to pick and choose just so one can be vaugely insulting for the fun of it. :shame:
Im not saying that drug accusations were never laid at their feet but numerous times it was stated that Victor and Stephano didnt deal in drugs as it wasnt their style.. Stories change, History changes Im not denying that it happened just stating what I remember.. I dont claim to remember every episode or storyline, And so I dont dispute the truth, or "facts" of what happened. There was a time growing up when I only watched sporadically So im sure I missed things. :laugh:
Sami had flashbacks, dreams, and such.... about EJ as well, and one of them was about being his wife.... that's also a fact. Right before Tomlin hired his pet.

IMO TPTB attempted Safe to make the fan wars end, but ended up replacing Lumi with Safe. Not working, in fact some of us wish Lumi was back - at least it was a more enjoyable and worthy "opponent". Maybe they can find Rafe another girlfriend. He would be good with Carly, although Nicole would be good too. He was originally supposed to be her love interest, so they may revisit the idea.
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Manda1
Nov 1 2009, 02:46 PM
angmc
Nov 1 2009, 02:26 PM
daisy132
Nov 1 2009, 02:01 PM
Taelyn
Oct 31 2009, 04:46 PM

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Sami had flashbacks, dreams, and such.... about EJ as well, and one of them was about being his wife.... that's also a fact. Right before Tomlin hired his pet.

IMO TPTB attempted Safe to make the fan wars end, but ended up replacing Lumi with Safe. Not working, in fact some of us wish Lumi was back - at least it was a more enjoyable and worthy "opponent". Maybe they can find Rafe another girlfriend. He would be good with Carly, although Nicole would be good too. He was originally supposed to be her love interest, so they may revisit the idea.
Actually Sami had the wife daydream after Rafe showed up.
Sami voiced her feelings about EJ to Lucas before WP started. She wanted to be with him but didn't want him to choose her because of the baby. That's a fact. Sami only commited to Rafe AFTER EJ got married. Sami went to stop EJs wedding instead of chasing after Rafe after he threw another of his tantrums.

Safe, IMO, has been the placeholder for EJami while AS was on maternity. Time will tell.
Ummmm a place holder or stake through the heart? Let's not forget EJ was still with Sami when he got Nicole pregnant in the elevator. Sami was free and unattached and he bedded Nicole. When Sami came out of WP she was free and attached and EJ married Nicole and this week we have him say he was NEVER more happier than when Nicole was in his life. That means happier than all the previous times with Sami.

I see no reason why Sami's pregnancy could not have been written into her 'relationship' with EJ. She could have stayed in Salem and battled things out with Nicole if they were writing for Ejami but the writers were going with Ejole.

Next week has Safe and Ejami scenes but the promo's and articles are about Safe because the story is about them. I've read on another site that we may see Rafe, Sami and Syndey bonding this week too! I know many are going to be mad about that but let's wait and see how next week plays out. :wub:

I expect Rafe to say to Sami post baby reveal that she's free to return to EJ and then we'll get the dialogue from Sami that says you are the only one in the world for me, the best thing that ever happened to me, the reason why I have my daughter back with me, and on and on.....meanwhile we have EJ planning to toy around with Arianna to hit back and Rafe and Brady and getting bitten by the love bug himself and finding out when it is time for the 'punchline' he doesn't want to deliver it, because he now cares for Arianna. JMO

I think Lindsay Hartely is going into a triangle with Brady and EJ until Nicole comes back and she can join them. Corday previewed in Jan this year that by the end of the year there was going to be a EJ/Nicole/Brady triangle. I think Ari's maternity leave has nixed that but I have a sneaking suspicion that LH may just end up in the middle of that especially since Corday's recent remarks say that he doesn't think she's going to end up with Brady....ummm Ejanna pictures anyone?
I wouldn't be surprised if you were right, considering that Tomlin only cares about his Passions characters and fans and screwed Days' fans into oblivion. I hate what this show has become because of him, and how our characters have been assassinated for his dream. Now that Passions is over, he had to create a Passions 2 show to continue his dream and NBC had to replace the Passions board with something else.

If it is a Safe/Ejanna storyline, then I hope that James leaves (at the moment he is the reason I watch). I hope that he gets called to bigger and better things as he's way above GG, who is your typical run of the mill soap actor.

There is no substance to Safe - only boinking and ripping clothes off to expose GG's chest. Great for GG fans, but I'm not one of them.
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Manda1
Nov 1 2009, 03:14 PM
angmc
Nov 1 2009, 02:58 PM
Manda1
Nov 1 2009, 02:46 PM
Ummmm a place holder or stake through the heart? Let's not forget EJ was still with Sami when he got Nicole pregnant in the elevator. Sami was free and unattached and he bedded Nicole. When Sami came out of WP she was free and attached and EJ married Nicole and this week we have him say he was NEVER more happier than when Nicole was in his life. That means happier than all the previous times with Sami.

I see no reason why Sami's pregnancy could not have been written into her 'relationship' with EJ. She could have stayed in Salem and battled things out with Nicole if they were writing for Ejami but the writers were going with Ejole.

Next week has Safe and Ejami scenes but the promo's and articles are about Safe because the story is about them. I've read on another site that we may see Rafe, Sami and Syndey bonding this week too! I know many are going to be mad about that but let's wait and see how next week plays out. :wub:

I expect Rafe to say to Sami post baby reveal that she's free to return to EJ and then we'll get the dialogue from Sami that says you are the only one in the world for me, the best thing that ever happened to me, the reason why I have my daughter back with me, and on and on.....meanwhile we have EJ planning to toy around with Arianna to hit back and Rafe and Brady and getting bitten by the love bug himself and finding out when it is time for the 'punchline' he doesn't want to deliver it, because he now cares for Arianna. JMO

I think Lindsay Hartely is going into a triangle with Brady and EJ until Nicole comes back and she can join them. Corday previewed in Jan this year that by the end of the year there was going to be a EJ/Nicole/Brady triangle. I think Ari's maternity leave has nixed that but I have a sneaking suspicion that LH may just end up in the middle of that especially since Corday's recent remarks say that he doesn't think she's going to end up with Brady....ummm Ejanna pictures anyone?
There's no sarcasm in this question..but were you watching Days period when EJ had sex with Nicole in the elevator?
Umm is this a trick question? of course I was watching. EJ thought he had lost his chance with Samantha so had sex with her worst enemy...

That said Sami did not have to be written out of the Ejami story because she was pregnant too. I think that was Ali''s choice and the writers choice. There were rumours around the internet at the time that AS had been 'encouraging' TPTB to get GG on Days as her love interest and it worked - obviously because we know in the original casting call they were looking for a law enforcement guy to go into Nicole and Trent Robbins storyline.

In my opinion Ali used her pregancy to get herself a well needed break from Ejami storyline. Her first article when back to work in Jan 09 said it all when she called it the most devise and controversial storyline and gushed in the same article how much she was loving working with GG :lol:

Hey and Ali via Sami is still portraying that love that she has for Rafe for us all, and still tweeting how much she loves working with GG So we get more Safe to come next week and I am really looking forward to it!
Actually, Ali is pretty fair in promoting all of her love interests. If you want to talk about personal preference, she prefers Bryan and Lumi. That's what she really wants.

She said that she was honored to work with such talented colleagues, and that she feelt lucky to share scenes with all three men. And she made it very clear that "she didn't want to descriminate against anyone". She gushed about Bryan, she gushed about GG, and she gushed about James. It is not her fault that the writers messed up with the controversial storyline, but she sure does Ejami justice considering.

And about EJ and Nicole. Maybe you don't remember, but EJ went to Nicole after he was pushed away by Sami over and over again, and after she told him on the cell phone, nonetheless, that she doesn't love him, never will, and that he should just move on. Nicole wanted him and in his words, "he liked how she made him feel". Sami didn't.
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Taelyn
Nov 1 2009, 06:32 PM
Kali
Nov 1 2009, 04:58 PM
I'm totally an Ejami fan, but it would not surprise me if TPTB decided to go with a noncontroversial pairing for Sami, after the Lumi v. Ejami "fan wars." If the Boards are any indication (I'm not sure if they are), very few people are passionate about Safe--either pro or con. So I could see them going with the least objectionable pairing, even if no one is really excited about them. I hope that's not what they're doing, but I could see it happening, at least for awhile.
This kinda makes Safe look like some sort of "compromise" I think they are much more then that.
This board is certainly not Pro Safe.. The NBC boards have a strong Safe following.. More importantly to NBC though The ratings *With Safe* are much higher and they obviously have been getting great feedback on the couple.
The Internet Soap board fans are really only a fraction of the viewers.. Most people I know who watch soaps regularly have never even seen a Soap board.

I have no doubt that Sami will somehow end up in EJ's grip at some point but it will only be for the purpose of Rafe rescuing her, or reuninting with her. Rafe is the Man she loves and is "In Love" with, Lucas is the man she loved and will always love.. He was her young love , Rafe is her future.
EJ.. is her nightmare who she is tied to through Johnny.. Even Marlena at times had fond feelings for Stephano, but underneath it all she hated him.

I have no problem though with those who wish to hang on to that elusive dream of Ejami, even though any remote chance they had is based in the past.. and I say remote because quite onestly I hear all the time about how "EJ" still loves Sami.. But Love cant be one sided.. Sami does NOT love EJ, even if she feels sorry for him at times, or compassion, That does not equal LOVE .. even if she considered a marriage to him because she was pregnant.. that does not equal real love.. Even if out of lonliness, anger, and frustration she gave into 1 night of passion (A night even SHE called just sex).. That does not equal LOVE.


Sami and Rafe LOVE eachother.. that is not debatable.
Safe IS a compromise. It's what TPTB put together to end the Lumi/Ejami feud and for Tomlin to hire his pet.

As for NBC, the board is moderated by fans who are ALL Safe/Lumi fans, every single mod and adminisrator, and this caused many regular posters to stop posting. The mear thought for some is repulsive. And this is not the only board that isn't pro Safe, as you know.

This is not a Marlena/Stephano storyline. EJ is not Stephano, and for those who watch the show with somewhat of an unbiased view, they would see his many layers and continuous struggle within himself. EJ loves Sami, this has been brought up many times, and Stephano disliking the fact just reinforced it. Sami always denied her love for EJ, as noted by many, including Lucas and Rafe.

If Safe is the future, then I hope that they get shipped off to Switzerland with Austin and Carrie and John and Marlena. I for one find it hard to stomach them now, I can't think about years to come.
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magicsteacher
Nov 1 2009, 08:32 PM
SocRMum1
Nov 1 2009, 08:28 PM
magicsteacher
Nov 1 2009, 08:20 PM
Taelyn
Nov 1 2009, 06:32 PM

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Taelyn-- great post and ITA. Rafe is the man Sami loves and he loves her. Both Galen and Ali have said it in articles-- and they didn't need to or have to. Sami and Rafe's relationship developed slowly and out of friendship and caring. It developed into love. Sami and EJ's relationship has always been based on lies and manipulation, and that does not make for a loving relationship.
The bottom line is Sami doesn't love EJ. She may reach an understanding with him for the kids' sake, but that is not love. It is a compromise to make the kids' lives better.
*light bulb clicks on* Ahhhhh...okay. I see now. THIS is what all the frantic Safe pimping has been about these past few days? The spoiler that Sami and EJ come to an understanding and then go mourn together at Grace's grave. It's all making so much more sense now. :$
I am so glad it did!!!! Gosh, I must have missed all the frantic SAFE pimping. SAFE doesn't need to be pimped-- they are the rooting couple on DAYS!!!!
It is? Well, yes, by its fans.

I see many Days fans who are not rooting for Safe, but they are rooting for its end.
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magicsteacher
Nov 2 2009, 09:32 PM
lagirl
Oct 28 2009, 02:31 PM
Angie79
Oct 28 2009, 02:19 PM
It's pretty sad that she sleeps with him and THEN asks him why he is back.
Wonder why Sami ask when it is obvious he is back to get laid.
Rafe comes back to get laid?? Come on now. He risks his life to go to her place to get DNA samples when he knows she isn't home.
They happen to meet outside her place by chance. He didn't intend to see her at all yet. So, how does that equate with his coming back to get laid? Obviously she must have invited him in to the townhouse and by the pictures, she is an active participant. They are in love with each other and have missed each other. It is about making love with each other, not about getting laid.
Well, according to Galen, they have animalistic sex. I don't really care, they can do it in every room and every day. That's what they did with Lumi before they broke them up. Yes, let them do it so that we can all be spared in the end.
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