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The James Scott Interview - Days Of Our Lives; "There is going to be a huge twist..."
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Nov 9 2009, 08:59 PM
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I don't think that Sami has to be 'bad' in the same way that she was in the past, but she could certainly have an edge. I personally think that she ought to be ruthless--perhaps in business, and I think she can still be vengeful without hurting innocent people. Kate's pretty ruthless, and I get her motives, even if some of the things she does are heinous.
I hate that they are turning Sami into Marlena (heroine Sami sucks IMHO), but I also agree with JS that if she stays 'good' and EJ is 'bad', Ejami doesn't have much of a future. I don't think that having EJ and Sami be 'grey' means that their characters would be ruined. It isn't necessary to kill people to be a bad-ass, and I really miss bad-ass Sami!!! This is an excellent point. Because as tedious as I may find Stepford Sami at the moment, the balls out anti-Brady bitch constantly sabotaging herself and looking nervous with "They can't find out my secret" voiceovers playing could sometimes get very tedious earlier this decade as well.
If you watch ANY other soap opera, even prime time, you will find that characters generally make questionable choices in the name of 'doing the right thing.' There are plenty of scheming, manipulative females out there that are more mature than the Anti-Brady but still willing to cut a bitch if it gets her what she needs. These actions don't always make them 'villains' or 'bad' people, they make them more complicated characters. Sami definitely needed to grow up but instead of maturing, I think she morphed from an outright selfish schemer to an altruistic mother hen in a matter of months. It does not compute. Sami should still exhibit some of her more persuasive and selfish characteristics and try to fight the urge. It's plain insulting to think she would have become such a reformed woman in such a short amount of time without Carrie or Belle around as foils. I guess she could have solved her own desire to abuse circumstance by moving out of town years ago.
Unlike many other soaps that are actually written as dramatic stories containing real human beings placed in outstanding circumstances, Days is like a cartoon. Everyone is labeled either black or white in their motives, each character is about as complex as a glass of water, the dialogue tells us what is happening and how people are instantaneously feeling, and every story is isolated from the others so it doesn't feel like a town or a community but like a vignette of unrelated people in a very outdated and fake environment. There are few onscreen intricacies and rarely are there wide sweeping ramifications or consequences for things which go wrong. Just like a cartoon, it's fun but it's certainly not drama.
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Nov 9 2009, 09:06 PM
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It seemed to me that even James Scott understands the problem with Ejami.. They simply dont fit! EJ's Character would have to be ruined and turned into something JS obviously despises. i.e. A witless boring weakling. Or Sami has to stop being a Brady and embrace his evil side and his family. And while Sami certainly has done her share of wrong, She wasnt actually evil. Selfish, Vindictive,Calculating and desperate, but she always held on to good qualities too and was capable of feeling guilt.. And most of her 'Crimes' happened when she was very very young. For the writers to take her their she would be rejecting everything her Mom and Dad tried to give her. I see them only teasing the potential by throwing them together in stormy situations but I believe her heart will now belong to Rafe.
The only way I ever see Sami embracing a darker side is if 'Belle' returned and she was able to carry on the Brady legacy of Good verses Evil. Even then it would be tough, but I cant see the Brady legacy totally destroyed by pairing her with a DiMera.
Nor do I honestly think James Scott or A Sweeney does.. They BOTH want to be true to their character , His being Evil, and Her being a Brady to the core, her Mother and Fathers daughter... Besides I think keeping them mostly apart and at odds creates many more stories for them in the future. James despised what all his fans despised - his character being destroyed for the sake of this storyline - which is what I hated about Ejole.
He likes playing the "bad guy", although he makes "the good guy" justice too. One thing no one commented on - James said that the writers are giving him what he's been pushing for, for a very long time. And that is a gray character for EJ. He wants EJ not to be a villain, not a murderer, not a rapist, but "everything else is OK". I made this comparison many times for those of you who are Y & R fans - a likeness to Victor Newman comes to mind. And Victor Newman got numerous girls, but the number one supercouple of Y & R is Victor and Nikki, which for me on Days, now that most of the vets are gone, is Ejami. Well, maybe Bo and Hope, and then Ejami. Victor is ruthless, can do awful things to those he supposedly loves, but he was still the lead character of the show. He kept the show going for years. Making EJ like Victor would be meeting in the middle with his character, IMO.
EJ Dimera is a lead character as well as a romantic lead. James won the Adonis contest three years in a row, and he only gets better looking (have you guys see his recent picture from the DoD event -the ones showing his bulging muscles). He is no Stephano, and he will get the girl. At least I hope so.
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Nov 9 2009, 09:27 PM
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EJami sucks big slouchy donkey balls
Okay, I just laughed out loud in my office!!! :biggrin: How am I going to explain that?? Thanks Alligato! :lol: But you know I love 'em!!! :wub:
I just can't anymore, but I know you do. I still love you though! :wub:It's all good....frustrating, but all good! :biggrin: AWWW......shucks!! :wub:
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Nov 9 2009, 11:03 PM
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EJami sucks big slouchy donkey balls
Okay, I just laughed out loud in my office!!! :biggrin: How am I going to explain that?? Thanks Alligato! :lol: But you know I love 'em!!! :wub:
I just can't anymore, but I know you do. I still love you though! :wub:It's all good....frustrating, but all good! :biggrin:
AWWW......shucks!! :wub: :hail: Donkey balls :rockon:
So here is another theory on the babyswitch storyline twist...
So what if...Sydney is EJ & Sami's, though I agree with JS when he said sharing a child is not reason enough for a relationship...
So what if the twist has to do with the baby that died, maybe it gives reasoning to why Rafe was so connected to Grace.
Here's what we know, Mia & Chad originally attended Salem West... Sounds like that's in West Salem, I know duh!
But who else do we know from West Salem.... Rafe & Ari Hernandez. Ari would know if she gave birth. But would Rafe know if an ex-girlfriend gave birth. No not Emily, she only died two years ago. Cause if he plays his age he would have been 23, and if he's playing younger it still makes sense age wise. I don't think it's Chad, because we have been introduced to his parents. But What about Mia, all we know is she use to live with her mom, and her mother kicked her out when she got pregnant.
What if Rafe's special relationship with Grace is totally understandable because she was his granddaughter. And Mia is his daughter....
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Nov 9 2009, 11:06 PM
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I just can't anymore, but I know you do. I still love you though! :wub:It's all good....frustrating, but all good! :biggrin:
AWWW......shucks!! :wub: :hail: Donkey balls :rockon: So here is another theory on the babyswitch storyline twist... So what if...Sydney is EJ & Sami's, though I agree with JS when he said sharing a child is not reason enough for a relationship... So what if the twist has to do with the baby that died, maybe it gives reasoning to why Rafe was so connected to Grace. Here's what we know, Mia & Chad originally attended Salem West... Sounds like that's in West Salem, I know duh! But who else do we know from West Salem.... Rafe & Ari Hernandez. Ari would know if she gave birth. But would Rafe know if an ex-girlfriend gave birth. No not Emily, she only died two years ago. Cause if he plays his age he would have been 23, and if he's playing younger it still makes sense age wise. I don't think it's Chad, because we have been introduced to his parents. But What about Mia, all we know is she use to live with her mom, and her mother kicked her out when she got pregnant. What if Rafe's special relationship with Grace is totally understandable because she was his granddaughter. And Mia is his daughter.... I like the way you think. That would make a very nice twist that doesn't stretch the fabric of logic.
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Nov 9 2009, 11:12 PM
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and with EJ jumping in to save Rafe tomorrow out of concern for Sami are great indications that we're on the track toward EJami.
This is not the reason I think he does it, I think this is just what he tells his dad. I heard a different reasoning I think JS said it, maybe not, it was that Rafe seems to know something that his Dad wants to keep secret and EJ wants to know what. Do you really think that EJ would save Sami's lover for her? please...
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Nov 9 2009, 11:15 PM
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and with EJ jumping in to save Rafe tomorrow out of concern for Sami are great indications that we're on the track toward EJami.
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Not sure what the twist is but I expect a boring EJ/Sami/Rafe triangle once all this baby reveal stuff is revealed. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Nov 10 2009, 12:15 AM
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and with EJ jumping in to save Rafe tomorrow out of concern for Sami are great indications that we're on the track toward EJami.
This is not the reason I think he does it, I think this is just what he tells his dad. I heard a different reasoning I think JS said it, maybe not, it was that Rafe seems to know something that his Dad wants to keep secret and EJ wants to know what. Do you really think that EJ would save Sami's lover for her? please...
Yep, I completely believe it. EJ and Sami made great headway in their relationship in those scenes on Friday. I do believe they were both sincere when they told each other they really want the other to be happy. Why would EJ lie about that - to Stefano of all people? He's giving EJ crap left and right for focusing so much on Sami - so I don't see EJ being anything but honest in those scenes.
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Nov 10 2009, 09:31 AM
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I agree about the part that JS said. I think he did say in his interview that ejami worked when they were both bad. Now, they have turned Sami into a good girl, so something would have to happen. Either EJ would have to become good, or Sami would have to turn into a bad girl again, or they would have to meet in the middle. IMO, they won't turn EJ good, b/c he is much better as a bad boy and he doesn't like being a good guy; he much prefers being the villain. It would be difficult to turn Sami into a bad girl again. When she was bad, she only had one child, Will. Now, she has three young children, too. It would be a poor image for her as a mother-- not that it can't be done, but still. Besides, I believe they are making her into a form of Marlena. As for meeting in the middle, that would mean both characters would turn into gray characters and ruin both of their characters. These, of course are not JS's words, but I do believe he did say something very close to that.
I don't think that Sami has to be 'bad' in the same way that she was in the past, but she could certainly have an edge. I personally think that she ought to be ruthless--perhaps in business, and I think she can still be vengeful without hurting innocent people. Kate's pretty ruthless, and I get her motives, even if some of the things she does are heinous. I hate that they are turning Sami into Marlena (heroine Sami sucks IMHO), but I also agree with JS that if she stays 'good' and EJ is 'bad', Ejami doesn't have much of a future. I don't think that having EJ and Sami be 'grey' means that their characters would be ruined. It isn't necessary to kill people to be a bad-ass, and I really miss bad-ass Sami!!! I would agree that turning Sami and EJ gray would not necessarily mean killing people, but Sami was always manipulating people and situations and using lies and deception to get what she wanted, no matter who she hurt. She would still have to be involved somewhat with that type of behavior to be gray; EJ has always been involved with the same types of things only more so. If you take a lot of that away from him to turn him gray, then IMO, it takes away from his character, especially since he is now a drug lord. EJ is better at being the bad boy and JS likes to play that part and it shows in his acting.
I also think I read that same comment from Ali about liking the way her character is now. Can't remember where exactly it was, but I am going to try and find it.
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Unlike many other soaps that are actually written as dramatic stories containing real human beings placed in outstanding circumstances, Days is like a cartoon. Everyone is labeled either black or white in their motives, each character is about as complex as a glass of water, the dialogue tells us what is happening and how people are instantaneously feeling, and every story is isolated from the others so it doesn't feel like a town or a community but like a vignette of unrelated people in a very outdated and fake environment. There are few onscreen intricacies and rarely are there wide sweeping ramifications or consequences for things which go wrong. Just like a cartoon, it's fun but it's certainly not drama.
I think this is an exceptional point about the characters lacking complexity and being only black or white. JS and his portrayal of EJ were what brought me back to watching Days more regularly after years of sort of keeping tabs on the show on and off. I really miss some of the traits that he had when he first came to the show--he was charming, flirty, funny, and a little dark. Now he's just dark and dower all the time, and while I still enjoy looking at the man, I don't enjoy the character as much. I think the days of that level of complexity left when Hogan and his team were given the boot.
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Yep, I completely believe it. EJ and Sami made great headway in their relationship in those scenes on Friday. I do believe they were both sincere when they told each other they really want the other to be happy. Why would EJ lie about that - to Stefano of all people? He's giving EJ crap left and right for focusing so much on Sami - so I don't see EJ being anything but honest in those scenes.
To me what I saw was a truce of sorts.. Sami has not changed her opinion of EJ ..But I agree she wants him to be happy , and she believes that He loved Nicole, and was loved in return , (In fact he has admitted as much in the interview) And him being happy elsewhere keeps him from sniffing around her.. But He is still not her favorite person, Nor does she think the apple falls too far from the tree.. Thats clear in the way she spoke of him to Nicole shortly after her 'Time with EJ at the Grave'.. She called him a "Criminal, lacking morals" And countless other insults, pretty much making it clear that Rafe is the far better man. But she knows that she and EJ do share a child and thus have to work out an amicaple relationship and needs his forgiveness to accomplish that. She forgave him an even worse crime against her, and I dont think EJ forgiving her means he will forget it. anymore than she will forget what EJ is capable of. Im Glad EJ is going to get the material he has been pushing for So I expect to see a much more intense, take charge ruthless EJ.. One who, like Victor Hides well behind an air of respectability while continuing his criminal activities. Should be good stuff to come.
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^^ The question I was responding to was whether or not I believed that EJ was truly saving Rafe out of concern for Samantha and I do, based on what I saw Friday and what he said to Stefano in today's show. Regardless of what Sami said to Nicole it doesn't change the fact that I believe EJ is acting selflessly in order to protect Sami and her feelings. That makes my EJami loving heart do a pitter pat. :wub2:
But I agree that we're going to see EJ go quite dark for a while. Corday pretty much told us that in the Sweeps preview - that the 'big' story will be how the revelation of all of these betrayals will affect EJ. I don't expect to see him skipping through meadows picking daisys as a result. :lol: But I do believe that it will be Sami that pulls EJ back from the depths once it's all said and done. Perhaps initially out of concern for their children and what this might do to them - but also because, as she's said to him many times the past few weeks, she really does want him to be happy. In the midst of whatever it will take to help him I believe the EJami fans will get some payoff. We've been told to expect a EJ/Sami/Rafe triangle - I think we'll see it as a result of Sami's conflicted feelings as she and EJ grow closer after his 'meltdown'. I, for one, can't wait! :)
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^^ The question I was responding to was whether or not I believed that EJ was truly saving Rafe out of concern for Samantha and I do, based on what I saw Friday and what he said to Stefano in today's show. Regardless of what Sami said to Nicole it doesn't change the fact that I believe EJ is acting selflessly in order to protect Sami and her feelings. That makes my EJami loving heart do a pitter pat. :wub2: But I agree that we're going to see EJ go quite dark for a while. Corday pretty much told us that in the Sweeps preview - that the 'big' story will be how the revelation of all of these betrayals will affect EJ. I don't expect to see him skipping through meadows picking daisys as a result. :lol: But I do believe that it will be Sami that pulls EJ back from the depths once it's all said and done. Perhaps initially out of concern for their children and what this might do to them - but also because, as she's said to him many times the past few weeks, she really does want him to be happy. In the midst of whatever it will take to help him I believe the EJami fans will get some payoff. We've been told to expect a EJ/Sami/Rafe triangle - I think we'll see it as a result of Sami's conflicted feelings as she and EJ grow closer after his 'meltdown'. I, for one, can't wait! :) I just don't see EJ saving Rafe for Sami... Why would EJ want to save Sami's lover? It makes no rational sense, and no matter what, different people think about EJ. He has always been seen as rational. So why save Rafe, for his own agenda of course, it is pure EJ. EJ knows one thing and that was shown today, he thinks his father is trying to pull one over on him, and if Stef. wants Rafe dead that means one thing. Rafe knows something his father doesn't want anyone to know, and that is what EJ must know...
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^^ The question I was responding to was whether or not I believed that EJ was truly saving Rafe out of concern for Samantha and I do, based on what I saw Friday and what he said to Stefano in today's show. Regardless of what Sami said to Nicole it doesn't change the fact that I believe EJ is acting selflessly in order to protect Sami and her feelings. That makes my EJami loving heart do a pitter pat. :wub2: But I agree that we're going to see EJ go quite dark for a while. Corday pretty much told us that in the Sweeps preview - that the 'big' story will be how the revelation of all of these betrayals will affect EJ. I don't expect to see him skipping through meadows picking daisys as a result. :lol: But I do believe that it will be Sami that pulls EJ back from the depths once it's all said and done. Perhaps initially out of concern for their children and what this might do to them - but also because, as she's said to him many times the past few weeks, she really does want him to be happy. In the midst of whatever it will take to help him I believe the EJami fans will get some payoff. We've been told to expect a EJ/Sami/Rafe triangle - I think we'll see it as a result of Sami's conflicted feelings as she and EJ grow closer after his 'meltdown'. I, for one, can't wait! :)
I just don't see EJ saving Rafe for Sami... Why would EJ want to save Sami's lover? It makes no rational sense, and no matter what, different people think about EJ. He has always been seen as rational. So why save Rafe, for his own agenda of course, it is pure EJ. EJ knows one thing and that was shown today, he thinks his father is trying to pull one over on him, and if Stef. wants Rafe dead that means one thing. Rafe knows something his father doesn't want anyone to know, and that is what EJ must know... Why lie to Stefano? It's not like it'd make Stefano happy to know he cared enough about Sami to spare her the pain of burying her boyfriend. Which is a perfectly rational thing to do, protecting the loved one of someone you love.
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^^ The question I was responding to was whether or not I believed that EJ was truly saving Rafe out of concern for Samantha and I do, based on what I saw Friday and what he said to Stefano in today's show. Regardless of what Sami said to Nicole it doesn't change the fact that I believe EJ is acting selflessly in order to protect Sami and her feelings. That makes my EJami loving heart do a pitter pat. :wub2: But I agree that we're going to see EJ go quite dark for a while. Corday pretty much told us that in the Sweeps preview - that the 'big' story will be how the revelation of all of these betrayals will affect EJ. I don't expect to see him skipping through meadows picking daisys as a result. :lol: But I do believe that it will be Sami that pulls EJ back from the depths once it's all said and done. Perhaps initially out of concern for their children and what this might do to them - but also because, as she's said to him many times the past few weeks, she really does want him to be happy. In the midst of whatever it will take to help him I believe the EJami fans will get some payoff. We've been told to expect a EJ/Sami/Rafe triangle - I think we'll see it as a result of Sami's conflicted feelings as she and EJ grow closer after his 'meltdown'. I, for one, can't wait! :)
I just don't see EJ saving Rafe for Sami... Why would EJ want to save Sami's lover? It makes no rational sense, and no matter what, different people think about EJ. He has always been seen as rational. So why save Rafe, for his own agenda of course, it is pure EJ. EJ knows one thing and that was shown today, he thinks his father is trying to pull one over on him, and if Stef. wants Rafe dead that means one thing. Rafe knows something his father doesn't want anyone to know, and that is what EJ must know...
Why lie to Stefano? It's not like it'd make Stefano happy to know he cared enough about Sami to spare her the pain of burying her boyfriend. Which is a perfectly rational thing to do, protecting the loved one of someone you love. Exactly. If EJ were being rational he'd allow Stefano to think he doesn't give a rats ass about what taking Rafe out would do to Samantha. But he didn't. He reacted emotionally - because he cares about what it would do to Sami.
He's saving Rafe in order to help Sami - and anything else is secondary. If his concern was solely to find out what Rafe knows the first thing he would do is snag the envelope containing the DNA results while Rafe is knocked out rather than try to revive him. But he doesn't. :shrug:
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Nov 10 2009, 06:36 PM
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- magicsteacher
- Nov 10 2009, 09:31 AM
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I agree about the part that JS said. I think he did say in his interview that ejami worked when they were both bad. Now, they have turned Sami into a good girl, so something would have to happen. Either EJ would have to become good, or Sami would have to turn into a bad girl again, or they would have to meet in the middle. IMO, they won't turn EJ good, b/c he is much better as a bad boy and he doesn't like being a good guy; he much prefers being the villain. It would be difficult to turn Sami into a bad girl again. When she was bad, she only had one child, Will. Now, she has three young children, too. It would be a poor image for her as a mother-- not that it can't be done, but still. Besides, I believe they are making her into a form of Marlena. As for meeting in the middle, that would mean both characters would turn into gray characters and ruin both of their characters. These, of course are not JS's words, but I do believe he did say something very close to that.
I don't think that Sami has to be 'bad' in the same way that she was in the past, but she could certainly have an edge. I personally think that she ought to be ruthless--perhaps in business, and I think she can still be vengeful without hurting innocent people. Kate's pretty ruthless, and I get her motives, even if some of the things she does are heinous. I hate that they are turning Sami into Marlena (heroine Sami sucks IMHO), but I also agree with JS that if she stays 'good' and EJ is 'bad', Ejami doesn't have much of a future. I don't think that having EJ and Sami be 'grey' means that their characters would be ruined. It isn't necessary to kill people to be a bad-ass, and I really miss bad-ass Sami!!!
I would agree that turning Sami and EJ gray would not necessarily mean killing people, but Sami was always manipulating people and situations and using lies and deception to get what she wanted, no matter who she hurt. She would still have to be involved somewhat with that type of behavior to be gray; EJ has always been involved with the same types of things only more so. If you take a lot of that away from him to turn him gray, then IMO, it takes away from his character, especially since he is now a drug lord. EJ is better at being the bad boy and JS likes to play that part and it shows in his acting. I also think I read that same comment from Ali about liking the way her character is now. Can't remember where exactly it was, but I am going to try and find it. Since I doubt Sami is gonna turn back to the dark side. That means they would have to goody goody EJ. Which we've seen before, what is that old saying, 15 minutes of fame. Well that's about what we saw of EJ good, him saving John and sometime in the safe house. Then Sami wanted out of the marriage and was manipulated into staying in, by him.... okay off subject..... but, that's about all we saw of any good in EJ (excluding his fathership of Syd & Johnny of course). Though he was a murderer at that point and an attempted murderer... and was running around free of it... and not just any murder, a cop!!! So have we really saw a good EJ with any morals, it could be a change of pace or boring as hell... :shrug: I guess it's a coin toss...
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Nov 10 2009, 06:50 PM
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- six
- Nov 10 2009, 05:57 PM
- kitkat
- Nov 10 2009, 05:50 PM
- SocRMum1
- Nov 10 2009, 04:39 PM
^^ The question I was responding to was whether or not I believed that EJ was truly saving Rafe out of concern for Samantha and I do, based on what I saw Friday and what he said to Stefano in today's show. Regardless of what Sami said to Nicole it doesn't change the fact that I believe EJ is acting selflessly in order to protect Sami and her feelings. That makes my EJami loving heart do a pitter pat. :wub2: But I agree that we're going to see EJ go quite dark for a while. Corday pretty much told us that in the Sweeps preview - that the 'big' story will be how the revelation of all of these betrayals will affect EJ. I don't expect to see him skipping through meadows picking daisys as a result. :lol: But I do believe that it will be Sami that pulls EJ back from the depths once it's all said and done. Perhaps initially out of concern for their children and what this might do to them - but also because, as she's said to him many times the past few weeks, she really does want him to be happy. In the midst of whatever it will take to help him I believe the EJami fans will get some payoff. We've been told to expect a EJ/Sami/Rafe triangle - I think we'll see it as a result of Sami's conflicted feelings as she and EJ grow closer after his 'meltdown'. I, for one, can't wait! :)
I just don't see EJ saving Rafe for Sami... Why would EJ want to save Sami's lover? It makes no rational sense, and no matter what, different people think about EJ. He has always been seen as rational. So why save Rafe, for his own agenda of course, it is pure EJ. EJ knows one thing and that was shown today, he thinks his father is trying to pull one over on him, and if Stef. wants Rafe dead that means one thing. Rafe knows something his father doesn't want anyone to know, and that is what EJ must know...
Why lie to Stefano? It's not like it'd make Stefano happy to know he cared enough about Sami to spare her the pain of burying her boyfriend. Which is a perfectly rational thing to do, protecting the loved one of someone you love. To try to find out what his father didn't want him to know... I watched the rest of that and watched what he said in the foyer, about his father trying to put one over on him... This guy hates be lyed to and the reason for that is obvious...
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Nov 10 2009, 07:06 PM
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Why do EJ's motives have to be 'either/or'? I'd imagine EJ saving Rafe is a combination of him protecting Sami and wanting to know what his father is up to. Since his weak redemption, EJ has participated in very few 'bad' things. Philips murder was led by Stefano , Stephanie's kidnapping was a desperate attempt to save his father and he had the shyte beat out of Brady. But Brady deserved it. This doesn't make EJ 'good' but he is hardly as 'bad' as he was back in '07.
I think polarizing the morality of these characters is ridiculous. Nobody is just plain good and nobody is just plain bad. Why fight about it?
It's Salem, people rarely pay for their crimes anyway.
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Nov 10 2009, 07:53 PM
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- mer4santo
- Nov 10 2009, 07:06 PM
Why do EJ's motives have to be 'either/or'? I'd imagine EJ saving Rafe is a combination of him protecting Sami and wanting to know what his father is up to. Since his weak redemption, EJ has participated in very few 'bad' things. Philips murder was led by Stefano , Stephanie's kidnapping was a desperate attempt to save his father and he had the shyte beat out of Brady. But Brady deserved it. This doesn't make EJ 'good' but he is hardly as 'bad' as he was back in '07.
I think polarizing the morality of these characters is ridiculous. Nobody is just plain good and nobody is just plain bad. Why fight about it?
It's Salem, people rarely pay for their crimes anyway. Great post, mer!! :rockon:
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