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Why do EJ's motives have to be 'either/or'? I'd imagine EJ saving Rafe is a combination of him protecting Sami and wanting to know what his father is up to. Since his weak redemption, EJ has participated in very few 'bad' things. Philips murder was led by Stefano , Stephanie's kidnapping was a desperate attempt to save his father and he had the shyte beat out of Brady. But Brady deserved it. This doesn't make EJ 'good' but he is hardly as 'bad' as he was back in '07.
I think polarizing the morality of these characters is ridiculous. Nobody is just plain good and nobody is just plain bad. Why fight about it?
It's Salem, people rarely pay for their crimes anyway.
Why do EJ's motives have to be 'either/or'? I'd imagine EJ saving Rafe is a combination of him protecting Sami and wanting to know what his father is up to. Since his weak redemption, EJ has participated in very few 'bad' things. Philips murder was led by Stefano , Stephanie's kidnapping was a desperate attempt to save his father and he had the shyte beat out of Brady. But Brady deserved it. This doesn't make EJ 'good' but he is hardly as 'bad' as he was back in '07.
I think polarizing the morality of these characters is ridiculous. Nobody is just plain good and nobody is just plain bad. Why fight about it?
It's Salem, people rarely pay for their crimes anyway.
I have to say he has improved since '07 now he just orders murders, kidnaps, runs a major drug cartel and controlls his wife, ex-wife... wife... ex-wife...wife, you know what I mean. Least he not raping, blackmailing, or trying to commit mass murder-- I thinks it's an improvement... :applause:
I agree that no one is just plain bad or just plain good, but some are more bad than good, more black than gray.
It's just a stupid move on his part to save Sami's lover, and though I think he's bad enough and without morals for the most part. he has never been shown to be stupid. Maybe very naive lately when it came to Nicole, Stefano, and others-- but definitely not dumb.
So he knows that letting Rafe die, when he thinks his father is hiding something from him and suspects the truth starts with Rafe, is a very smart move. Bravo, EJ is awarded the wondering Salem brain. :applause:
Why do EJ's motives have to be 'either/or'? I'd imagine EJ saving Rafe is a combination of him protecting Sami and wanting to know what his father is up to. Since his weak redemption, EJ has participated in very few 'bad' things. Philips murder was led by Stefano , Stephanie's kidnapping was a desperate attempt to save his father and he had the shyte beat out of Brady. But Brady deserved it. This doesn't make EJ 'good' but he is hardly as 'bad' as he was back in '07.
I think polarizing the morality of these characters is ridiculous. Nobody is just plain good and nobody is just plain bad. Why fight about it?
It's Salem, people rarely pay for their crimes anyway.
I have to say he has improved since '07 now he just orders murders, kidnaps, runs a major drug cartel and controlls his wife, ex-wife... wife... ex-wife...wife, you know what I mean. Least he not raping, blackmailing, or trying to commit mass murder-- I thinks it's an improvement... :applause:
I agree that no one is just plain bad or just plain good, but some are more bad than good, more black than gray.
It's just a stupid move on his part to save Sami's lover, and though I think he's bad enough and without morals for the most part. he has never been shown to be stupid. Maybe very naive lately when it came to Nicole, Stefano, and others-- but definitely not dumb.
So he knows that letting Rafe die, when he thinks his father is hiding something from him and suspects the truth starts with Rafe, is a very smart move. Bravo, EJ is awarded the wondering Salem brain. :applause:
I'm still not getting why it's stupid for EJ to save Rafe...actually I do think it's a bad idea, but judging by your avatar, we have to have different reasons for believing that...
EJ cares for Sami. If Rafe gets killed, not only will Sami be unhappy, she'd probably also lash out at EJ.
Maybe he is saving Rafe so Sami WON'T run back to him! LOL! With Rafe in the picture, he feels like Sami won't mess with him and actually be happy...cuz face it, Sami was never that happy/giddy when she was "in love" with EJ. Enter Rafe and she is apologizing to EJ, rooting for his happiness, loaning money to her enemies, counselling wayward teens, etc. I'd take that over weepy, miserable Sami anyday! :)
If my true desire be known, I'll fanwank EJ's gesture as his last act of stupidity before he finds himself again. I'm cool with anyone taking Rafe out, doesn't need to be EJ.
Nicole had a miscarriage. Not a stillborn, not a premature baby, etc. She wasn't far along enough for the baby to survive. So if they pull that shit, it is an insult to my intelligence as a viewer......... And Brady! Don't get me started. It is o.k. for him to help Nicole perpertuate this huge fraud with Sydney but he is all righetous about Arianna being a drug dealer. He does need his ass kicked. He is all high and mighty when it suits him.
Um, perhaps you are a somewhat new viewer to DOOL, but the "third baby" scenario is EXACTLY the type of storyline that has driven the ratings for DOOL for the past 20 years. Crazy, outlandish, over-the-top, unbelievable, and periodically cringe-worthy twists and turns make the show fun and exciting.
A deranged twin swapping places with her stable sister in an asylum, then assuming her identity on staff at the hospital. One Brady sister having hysterical blindness while a second gets hysterical deafness. The Phoenix rising from the dead 8-10 times. A teenage candy-striper "adjusting" blood test results not once, not twice, but at least three times. A crafty policewoman who morphs into an adulterous doctor who morphs into an evil Cruella DeVille, stealing her best friend's baby, then who morphs into a crazed feral dirt-encrusted grunt human after spending six months in an underground tunnel courtesy her father, and finally morphs into respected Chief of Staff after announcing half of Salem dead when they are just "drugged". A possessed psychiatrist torching the Salem Place XMAS tree, levitating in her penthouse, and morphing into a panther. Herbs that lead to a weeklong stay in a buried coffin, complete with walkie-talkies. Toddlers aging into teenagers over a long weekend. "Salem Days" that last for 22 episodes. A demented, chain-smoking European Princess tricking her Salem lookalike into a castle imprisonment. Microchips in the brains of a half-dozen folks. Microchips implanted in an impacted tooth, complete with a handheld dial device to create antics befitting Laurel and Hardy and then flying across the garden during a wedding in which the bride and groom are decked out as Elvis and Priscilla Presley. Locking your boyfriend in a cage all summer. A dead SwampBaby turning up 5 years later as a troubled teen orphaned in a deadly car accident who proceeds to speed-bump over her brother while searching for her cellphone while driving. Tossing a toddler overboard into the ocean to "save" her. Oh, and the pretend murders of nine Salem citizens by gunshot, brick, cake-knife, pinata, prayer vigil, wine bottle, graveyard struggle, blood-thirsty tiger, and, of course, donut choke.
An insult to your intelligence? Then you shouldn't be watching DOOL.
As for Brady. He is allowed to do anything as long as he wears that blue long-sleeve T. I am stunned that the wardrobe department recycled that look so quickly. Then again, they obviously were just as impressed as us (male and female) viewers.
And I do think he reaction to the drug dealer revelation was DOOL appropriate, especially since the worst possible thing for a person battling drug addiction is to discover that the "love of his life" was dealing. He didn't slug her. Or choke her the way that Elvis threatened his wife.
LMFAO!!! seriously...that pretty much sums it up! i think the best ones are,
"A dead SwampBaby turning up 5 years later as a troubled teen orphaned in a deadly car accident who proceeds to speed-bump over her brother while searching for her cellphone while driving."
and the drop about lexie being "crazed feral dirt-encrusted grunt human".
Why do EJ's motives have to be 'either/or'? I'd imagine EJ saving Rafe is a combination of him protecting Sami and wanting to know what his father is up to. Since his weak redemption, EJ has participated in very few 'bad' things. Philips murder was led by Stefano , Stephanie's kidnapping was a desperate attempt to save his father and he had the shyte beat out of Brady. But Brady deserved it. This doesn't make EJ 'good' but he is hardly as 'bad' as he was back in '07.
I think polarizing the morality of these characters is ridiculous. Nobody is just plain good and nobody is just plain bad. Why fight about it?
It's Salem, people rarely pay for their crimes anyway.
I have to say he has improved since '07 now he just orders murders, kidnaps, runs a major drug cartel and controlls his wife, ex-wife... wife... ex-wife...wife, you know what I mean. Least he not raping, blackmailing, or trying to commit mass murder-- I thinks it's an improvement... :applause:
I agree that no one is just plain bad or just plain good, but some are more bad than good, more black than gray.
It's just a stupid move on his part to save Sami's lover, and though I think he's bad enough and without morals for the most part. he has never been shown to be stupid. Maybe very naive lately when it came to Nicole, Stefano, and others-- but definitely not dumb.
So he knows that letting Rafe die, when he thinks his father is hiding something from him and suspects the truth starts with Rafe, is a very smart move. Bravo, EJ is awarded the wondering Salem brain. :applause:
I agree. I thought the reason that EJ says it is about Sami's happiness is to appease his father as to his wanting to know why he is having the hit placed on Rafe. Stefano wants to know why he cares and he gives the answer of Sami being the father of Johnny,etc. Of course, it just angers Stefano. I think his real motivation was to save Rafe to find out what he knows that his father and Nicole are hiding from him. He never did, that we know of, find out the real reason why Nicole had the restraining order on Rafe, and he did hear the phone conversation Ari had with Rafe about the DNA testing. I think he is now putting 2 and 2 together and realizing that something big has been going on behind his back.
Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Nov 11 2009, 12:40 PM
^ EJAFE v DANDY (Dr. Dan/Brady)..the battle of the brunettes v blondes....I FUCKIN LOVE IT!!!!LOL
:lol: If they ever get crazy and do something to kill a couple of episodes like they did with the film noir stuff I think we might just have an idea. ;)
^ EJAFE v DANDY (Dr. Dan/Brady)..the battle of the brunettes v blondes....I FUCKIN LOVE IT!!!!LOL
:lol: If they ever get crazy and do something to kill a couple of episodes like they did with the film noir stuff I think we might just have an idea. ;)
They definitely need a light break after the reveal like the film noir, not too outlandish to have one of the guys have a homoerotic fantasy.
^ EJAFE v DANDY (Dr. Dan/Brady)..the battle of the brunettes v blondes....I FUCKIN LOVE IT!!!!LOL
:lol: If they ever get crazy and do something to kill a couple of episodes like they did with the film noir stuff I think we might just have an idea. ;)
If we're going there, I'm putting in a request for pelvis, instead of ejafe. Philip and EJ would sizzle.
Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Days of Our Lives
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Revenge
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Knots Landing
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Nov 11 2009, 01:49 PM
SocRMum1
Nov 11 2009, 12:53 PM
Liz<3Days
Nov 11 2009, 12:40 PM
^ EJAFE v DANDY (Dr. Dan/Brady)..the battle of the brunettes v blondes....I FUCKIN LOVE IT!!!!LOL
:lol: If they ever get crazy and do something to kill a couple of episodes like they did with the film noir stuff I think we might just have an idea. ;)
If we're going there, I'm putting in a request for pelvis, instead of ejafe. Philip and EJ would sizzle.