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Spoilers for wk of December 14th; *UPDATED 12/12*
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Dec 5 2009, 10:47 PM
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I can not stand for Sami to be the obediant naive pet
You mean like not daring to ask any questions about dead fiances and why their sister might be ticked about it? That kind of obedient? I'm right there with you - I can't stand that trait in Sami. :shame: But I have never, ever seen her that way with EJ. Obedient? Seriously?? I really wonder at times if we're talking about the same show - much less the same characters.
And remember how proud Sami was that she didn't ask Rafe questions about what He had been doing? She was being a good girl for St.Rafe. :puke:
It's better than being EJ's dog, and that is the way EJ treated Nicole. He might as well had her on a leash, sit, stay, heel. This guy is a total monster... he reminds me of another guy from this show, yeah, Lawrence Alamain, here's to EJ meeting the same fate as Larry :drunk: . And I wondering if we're watching the same show too, but then I understand, you hate Sami. It's the only explanation for wanting her with EJ, IMO, put her with Rafe or any other man on the show, in the world, in the universe... But putting her with that selfish monster, is saying I hate Sami let her get what she deserves. If Sami goes willing back to "that", may she be raped constantly night after night and chain to the dungeon wall all other times.This guy needs a major makeover personality wise before he should be with anyone, 'I'll kill you', that's paraphrasing what he tells Nicole, as she cowers in her hospital bed. :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:
Ummm.....not really sure what to say to that. I love Sami, maybe not necessarily the way she's acting right now, but I do love her. I don't like the idea of her not being allowed to ask questions of Rafe's past. Maybe if he told her he would explain it in time, and during that time he wouldn't be living in her house with her children, that would have been fine. Instead, he's angrily refused to answer questions and has tried to leave her because of her insistence that she tells him what's really going on. That to me is control. He doesn't like something, threatens to leave with his toys, and Sami capitulates.
As for the chaining up Sami to a wall stuff..... :run:
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Dec 6 2009, 02:15 AM
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And remember how proud Sami was that she didn't ask Rafe questions about what He had been doing? She was being a good girl for St.Rafe. :puke:
It's better than being EJ's dog, and that is the way EJ treated Nicole. He might as well had her on a leash, sit, stay, heel. This guy is a total monster... he reminds me of another guy from this show, yeah, Lawrence Alamain, here's to EJ meeting the same fate as Larry :drunk: . And I wondering if we're watching the same show too, but then I understand, you hate Sami. It's the only explanation for wanting her with EJ, IMO, put her with Rafe or any other man on the show, in the world, in the universe... But putting her with that selfish monster, is saying I hate Sami let her get what she deserves. If Sami goes willing back to "that", may she be raped constantly night after night and chain to the dungeon wall all other times.This guy needs a major makeover personality wise before he should be with anyone, 'I'll kill you', that's paraphrasing what he tells Nicole, as she cowers in her hospital bed. :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: Ummm.....not really sure what to say to that. I love Sami, maybe not necessarily the way she's acting right now, but I do love her. I don't like the idea of her not being allowed to ask questions of Rafe's past. Maybe if he told her he would explain it in time, and during that time he wouldn't be living in her house with her children, that would have been fine. Instead, he's angrily refused to answer questions and has tried to leave her because of her insistence that she tells him what's really going on. That to me is control. He doesn't like something, threatens to leave with his toys, and Sami capitulates. As for the chaining up Sami to a wall stuff..... :run: I agree with the question thing, even though I don't think she should attack him with questions, and that's what she did the day he moved out. But even if this is control, and this is where we disagree, it's in no comparison to the control of a man who tells you who to associate with. He feels the need to control the situation by putting his hands to your throat, who manipulates things around his supposedly love to dominate the situation, like lying to entice a person to stay your spouse and manipulating things to broaden a person's feelings. It is also not saying a person is going to marry you, whether they want to or not, not to Sami, that was Stefano, to Nicole. If Rafe is a controller, he is no comparison to EJ.
And one time Rafe told Sami he was gonna leave, and she said "LEAVE." Rafe ended up groveling.
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Dec 6 2009, 03:46 PM
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Friday The mystery woman's identity is revealed; Stefano tells Rafe that he didn't take Sydney.
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Dec 6 2009, 03:58 PM
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Friday The mystery woman's identity is revealed; Stefano tells Rafe that he didn't take Sydney. There's a mystery woman?
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Dec 6 2009, 04:04 PM
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Friday The mystery woman's identity is revealed; Stefano tells Rafe that he didn't take Sydney.
There's a mystery woman? The person who kidnapped Sydney is a woman. Probably someone from Nicole or Rafe's past. :eyeroll:
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Dec 6 2009, 04:05 PM
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Friday The mystery woman's identity is revealed; Stefano tells Rafe that he didn't take Sydney.
There's a mystery woman?
The person who kidnapped Sydney is a woman. Probably someone from Nicole or Rafe's past. :eyeroll: At least it isn't Stefano :)
I'm guessing everyone (as in the viewers) thinks it's Meredith then?
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Dec 6 2009, 04:08 PM
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Friday The mystery woman's identity is revealed; Stefano tells Rafe that he didn't take Sydney.
There's a mystery woman?
The person who kidnapped Sydney is a woman. Probably someone from Nicole or Rafe's past. :eyeroll:
At least it isn't Stefano :) I'm guessing everyone (as in the viewers) thinks it's Meredith then? Meredith or possibly Emily. I always thought Stefano was too simple a way to go. Maybe they're bringing back EJ's mom, Susan? :shrug: Maybe Nicole's sister? I'm stunned Days has been able to keep this under wraps till now. :popcorn:
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Dec 6 2009, 04:23 PM
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I read also the mystery woman was wearing boots, somewhere. Not sure how accurate it is, it was on one of those forums I occasionally skim when board..maybe soapcentral.
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Dec 6 2009, 04:27 PM
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^ Angie posted that here as well. That is the spoiler for Thursday:
Thursday Rafe tries to discover who took Sydney by searching for the mystery woman's boots.
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Dec 6 2009, 04:43 PM
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Safe sex while Sydney is missing? :frustration: I'm glad we won't be left in the dark long about who has Sydney....I just hope it's a Merry Christmas for Ejami. :cheer: :makeout: :cheer:
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Dec 6 2009, 05:16 PM
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I hope the kidnapper is Emily, who maybe thinks she can get back at Rafe's new lover (Sami). Then once all is revealed, Emily will tell Sami everything about Rafe, and what an obnoxious bastard he is. Sami leaves Rafe, Rafe leaves Salem, and all will be well. Lol, at least that how I wish it would go.
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Dec 6 2009, 05:24 PM
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It's better than being EJ's dog, and that is the way EJ treated Nicole. He might as well had her on a leash, sit, stay, heel. This guy is a total monster... he reminds me of another guy from this show, yeah, Lawrence Alamain, here's to EJ meeting the same fate as Larry :drunk: . And I wondering if we're watching the same show too, but then I understand, you hate Sami. It's the only explanation for wanting her with EJ, IMO, put her with Rafe or any other man on the show, in the world, in the universe... But putting her with that selfish monster, is saying I hate Sami let her get what she deserves. If Sami goes willing back to "that", may she be raped constantly night after night and chain to the dungeon wall all other times.This guy needs a major makeover personality wise before he should be with anyone, 'I'll kill you', that's paraphrasing what he tells Nicole, as she cowers in her hospital bed. :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: Ummm.....not really sure what to say to that. I love Sami, maybe not necessarily the way she's acting right now, but I do love her. I don't like the idea of her not being allowed to ask questions of Rafe's past. Maybe if he told her he would explain it in time, and during that time he wouldn't be living in her house with her children, that would have been fine. Instead, he's angrily refused to answer questions and has tried to leave her because of her insistence that she tells him what's really going on. That to me is control. He doesn't like something, threatens to leave with his toys, and Sami capitulates. As for the chaining up Sami to a wall stuff..... :run:
I agree with the question thing, even though I don't think she should attack him with questions, and that's what she did the day he moved out. But even if this is control, and this is where we disagree, it's in no comparison to the control of a man who tells you who to associate with. He feels the need to control the situation by putting his hands to your throat, who manipulates things around his supposedly love to dominate the situation, like lying to entice a person to stay your spouse and manipulating things to broaden a person's feelings. It is also not saying a person is going to marry you, whether they want to or not, not to Sami, that was Stefano, to Nicole. If Rafe is a controller, he is no comparison to EJ. And one time Rafe told Sami he was gonna leave, and she said "LEAVE." Rafe ended up groveling. Good post and ITA. I think Sami decided when she was at the convent that she was going to trust Rafe about his past and Emily and that the problem was her, not him. I am not saying that she shouldn't know about his past, but that situation pales in comparison to the situation with EJ. Rafe could have left at the airport, but it was his choice to stay; Rafe could have left when the argued about Emily at the pub, be he chose to stay. He has never said he doesn't want to tell Sami, but that he CAN'T-- big difference. EJ continues to shout and scream and shake his finger in people's faces and put his hands on women. He grabbed the phone from Sami; he lied to her and blackmailed her to get her to do what he wanted her to --- that is control.
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Dec 6 2009, 06:45 PM
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I'm not sure what week this spoiler is from but I found this on Soap Central:
The kidnapper sends a note
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Dec 6 2009, 07:32 PM
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Friday The mystery woman's identity is revealed; Stefano tells Rafe that he didn't take Sydney.
There's a mystery woman? First we've seen several hints dropped that Ari is the one that caused Emily's death, "I made a big mistake and Rafe took the hit for it." And the only reason that a member of the Hudson family would be involved is if they think the baby is Rafe's but wouldn't the article, sum up who the father is. The baby with EJ, seems to be the pusher that allows EJAMI.
So I think the baby has been taken by Susan, EJ's mother, probably played by a different woman. He's been sorias 18 years so the original woman that played his mother, isn't old enough. I think she is back to protect her grandbaby from the likes of the DiMera clan, would make for an interesting story line. And be a major impact on EJ, I think it sounds cool.
Why is Stefano turning to Rafe, is this the fifth dimension of hell? Well, I guess it proves who's the best detective. And as far as OBK states, it sounds like a SAFE Christmas, sorry.
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Friday The mystery woman's identity is revealed; Stefano tells Rafe that he didn't take Sydney.
There's a mystery woman?
First we've seen several hints dropped that Ari is the one that caused Emily's death, "I made a big mistake and Rafe took the hit for it." And the only reason that a member of the Hudson family would be involved is if they think the baby is Rafe's but wouldn't the article, sum up who the father is. The baby with EJ, seems to be the pusher that allows EJAMI. So I think the baby has been taken by Susan, EJ's mother, probably played by a different woman. He's been sorias 18 years so the original woman that played his mother, isn't old enough. I think she is back to protect her grandbaby from the likes of the DiMera clan, would make for an interesting story line. And be a major impact on EJ, I think it sounds cool. Why is Stefano turning to Rafe, is this the fifth dimension of hell? Well, I guess it proves who's the best detective. And as far as OBK states, it sounds like a SAFE Christmas, sorry. Im thinking the reason Stefano is turning to Rafe, is the fact that he knows that Rafe is a danger to him. Rafe is the one that figured all of this out and this might be a way for Stefano to get inside of his head to see just how far Rafe is from revealing the ending of the story. Rafe is a lot smarter than what some give credit for, when he first started out he was completey off with his senerio with Nicole made Grace sick. Something put him back on track and now look wheres hes at. I think he finds the person,who the boots belong to and sends the police to pick her up. Rafe is no fool, not by a long shot...
Rafe knows that Stefano and Nicole can con and deceive their way around the others, but Im guessing hes not gonna let them get too much on him,not now...
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Friday The mystery woman's identity is revealed; Stefano tells Rafe that he didn't take Sydney.
There's a mystery woman?
First we've seen several hints dropped that Ari is the one that caused Emily's death, "I made a big mistake and Rafe took the hit for it." And the only reason that a member of the Hudson family would be involved is if they think the baby is Rafe's but wouldn't the article, sum up who the father is. The baby with EJ, seems to be the pusher that allows EJAMI. So I think the baby has been taken by Susan, EJ's mother, probably played by a different woman. He's been sorias 18 years so the original woman that played his mother, isn't old enough. I think she is back to protect her grandbaby from the likes of the DiMera clan, would make for an interesting story line. And be a major impact on EJ, I think it sounds cool. Why is Stefano turning to Rafe, is this the fifth dimension of hell? Well, I guess it proves who's the best detective. And as far as OBK states, it sounds like a SAFE Christmas, sorry. Im thinking the reason Stefano is turning to Rafe, is the fact that he knows that Rafe is a danger to him. Rafe is the one that figured all of this out and this might be a way for Stefano to get inside of his head to see just how far Rafe is from revealing the ending of the story. Rafe is a lot smarter than what some give credit for, when he first started out he was completey off with his senerio with Nicole made Grace sick. Something put him back on track and now look wheres hes at. I think he finds the person,who the boots belong to and sends the police to pick her up. Rafe is no fool, not by a long shot...Rafe knows that Stefano and Nicole can con and deceive their way around the others, but Im guessing hes not gonna let them get too much on him,not now... Yep!! I agree. I saw a spoiler on Days Cafe that said that Rafe once again proves he is a good sleuth. He may be laid back, but he is smart and nobody's fool. He wasn't first in his FBI class for no reason. He definitely has a good handle on the situation.
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Dec 6 2009, 08:59 PM
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I am thinking that the mystery woman is an EJ Dimera operative. He has been looking really suspicious, stalling by arguing and flying commercial, etc. I think he stole Sydney to get back at Nicole, and is keeping Sydney from Sami to get back at Safe. He said that he didn't trust anyone, so Stefano has no clue. I also think he is using Sami's grief to get closer to her, and might even keep Sydney away from her so they can bond over it. That would just be awesome! Return of oldEJ.
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Dec 6 2009, 09:22 PM
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I am thinking that the mystery woman is an EJ Dimera operative. He has been looking really suspicious, stalling by arguing and flying commercial, etc. I think he stole Sydney to get back at Nicole, and is keeping Sydney from Sami to get back at Safe. He said that he didn't trust anyone, so Stefano has no clue. I also think he is using Sami's grief to get closer to her, and might even keep Sydney away from her so they can bond over it. That would just be awesome! Return of oldEJ. Could be. He probably found an alive Emily or contacted Meredith.
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I am thinking that the mystery woman is an EJ Dimera operative. He has been looking really suspicious, stalling by arguing and flying commercial, etc. I think he stole Sydney to get back at Nicole, and is keeping Sydney from Sami to get back at Safe. He said that he didn't trust anyone, so Stefano has no clue. I also think he is using Sami's grief to get closer to her, and might even keep Sydney away from her so they can bond over it. That would just be awesome! Return of oldEJ. Keeping someone's child from them? Now that is the best way to bond if there is any. :laugh: If Ej is using Sami in such a way as that, boy when she finds out. I dont want to be no where around. If she takes E back on the account of the children, you and everyone else that is divorced and has children, knows it dont work most of the time. I know i cant stand my ex, and even though we have a son,that wouldnt hold me to him.
If Ej tries to pull that with Sami, i see her leaving as fast as she came there. It wont work. You dont get someone to love you by deception of any kind.Or conning them, I wouldnt think so anyway. Im like you in one scense though,Im liking the return of the old Ej. Dark is Ej's color....
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First we've seen several hints dropped that Ari is the one that caused Emily's death, "I made a big mistake and Rafe took the hit for it." And the only reason that a member of the Hudson family would be involved is if they think the baby is Rafe's but wouldn't the article, sum up who the father is. The baby with EJ, seems to be the pusher that allows EJAMI. So I think the baby has been taken by Susan, EJ's mother, probably played by a different woman. He's been sorias 18 years so the original woman that played his mother, isn't old enough. I think she is back to protect her grandbaby from the likes of the DiMera clan, would make for an interesting story line. And be a major impact on EJ, I think it sounds cool. Why is Stefano turning to Rafe, is this the fifth dimension of hell? Well, I guess it proves who's the best detective. And as far as OBK states, it sounds like a SAFE Christmas, sorry. Im thinking the reason Stefano is turning to Rafe, is the fact that he knows that Rafe is a danger to him. Rafe is the one that figured all of this out and this might be a way for Stefano to get inside of his head to see just how far Rafe is from revealing the ending of the story. Rafe is a lot smarter than what some give credit for, when he first started out he was completey off with his senerio with Nicole made Grace sick. Something put him back on track and now look wheres hes at. I think he finds the person,who the boots belong to and sends the police to pick her up. Rafe is no fool, not by a long shot...Rafe knows that Stefano and Nicole can con and deceive their way around the others, but Im guessing hes not gonna let them get too much on him,not now...
Yep!! I agree. I saw a spoiler on Days Cafe that said that Rafe once again proves he is a good sleuth. He may be laid back, but he is smart and nobody's fool. He wasn't first in his FBI class for no reason. He definitely has a good handle on the situation. Where are you getting that Stefano turns to Rafe?
According to the spoilers for this week, Stefano winds up getting arrested a few days prior to that so for all we know Rafe is trying to question Stefano while Stefano is still in jail.
What I want to know if Stefano is telling the truth about not having hired anyone to kidnap Sydney from Nicole how did he manage to track them down to the Cleveland hospital just as fast as EJ/Rafe/Sami/Brady got there.
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