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Spoilers for wk of December 14th; *UPDATED 12/12*
Topic Started: Dec 2 2009, 01:21 PM (29,594 Views)
Ljay
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Kenny
Dec 2 2009, 11:24 PM
PhoenixRising05
Dec 2 2009, 07:27 PM
I think it's the kidnapper too but, like Kenny, I do think this will be someone we will recognize. Maybe it's a new actor coming on as a recast of a past character or maybe it's the same actor playing a new character (Wes Ramsey maybe?).
I will be so pissed if the kidnapper is Wes Ramsey's character. Zzzzz...
Now I was thinking that maybe it will be Wes Ramey's character,but its not Owen. Maybe its his twin brother his father was talkin about. From what I remember Owens twin is with the FBI, and we know Rafe has a buddy or two at the FBI. Rafe said they are on the job, so what if its Owens twin that brings the baby back? And then some pointed out that it could be Lucas that brings the child home. He told Maggie that he couldnt look Sami in the face again if something happen to the baby. So with me it could be a very good possibility that one of these two characters could bring Sydney back....

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Sami and Rafe make love and Sami and EJ's connections grows, this is fucked up. I've heard of playing one fan base against each other, but this is ridiculous. Why don't they have an orgie and get it over with?
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EJami was dormant, not gone. If you look at the past, EJ married Nicole to get over Sami but when she got back he had his doubts. It was only because Nicole twisted the truth about Rafe to her advantage, the marriage occurred. If they were left alone, Rafe wouldn't have been able to be with Sami because her love for EJ was that strong. EJami would have come a lot quicker. Then again, the ratings might have gone higher than they ever were before if that happen. G forbid!
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Dec 3 2009, 01:15 AM
If you look at the past, EJ married Nicole to get over Sami but when she got back he had his doubts.

It was only because Nicole twisted the truth about Rafe to her advantage, the marriage occurred. I

f they were left alone, Rafe wouldn't have been able to be with Sami because her love for EJ was that strong.
EJ married Nicole because he thought she had bore his child and was the anti-Sami.

Nicole knew nothing of Rafe before the marriage occurred other than he, was the one that broke into the house. And was that known before or after, there was nothing Nicole ever said about Rafe before that wasn't absolutely true. Rafe was spying on the DiMera's that day. And Nicole didn't force EJ into that marriage, she tried to get out of it and he said she was marrying him.

They were left alone, Sami was left alone to make her own decision, she went to that chapel and made the right choice not to be with a cold-blooded murdering type of guy. Philip had been shot and EJ showed no remorse. Sami dumped EJ long before that call in the safehouse, because he was using and manipulating her the whole time they were married. Keeping her married to him with the thought of deporting the only father her children had, Preying on her vulnerability and hate of Nicole (not to mention using Nicole as his pawn to hell with her feelings), & and finally manipulating the situation til she slept with him.

When Sami decided to be with EJ I realized her brain had flown South for the winter, she did not see what he was up to. Naive, would be the understatement of the century. If she goes back to EJ now, it will be because she has lost her brain again. She doesn't see him preying on her pain of loosing her daughter, everytime she turns around he trying to use empathy to caress her. Rafe and her were left alone, for month's and they found something amazing, a special bond that has yet to be broken. :hug:

I realize that I'm a cat in a room full of rocking chairs, but I'm not a fraidy one, I tend to be fearless...
Edited by kitkat, Dec 3 2009, 03:10 AM.
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Marian


I'm inclined to agree with the people that think the kidnapper might be Emily....
It could also be Tony? No one ever stays dead for long in Salem
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Manda1
Dec 2 2009, 10:34 PM
Kali
Dec 2 2009, 09:53 PM
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Dec 2 2009, 09:44 PM
IMissAremid
Dec 2 2009, 04:23 PM
It's not just that it's Sami and Rafe (although their constant humpfests right in front of a napping Grace right before she died also squicked me out). Grief sex may be somewhat realistic, but it's not the sort of love in the afternoon that I tune in to soaps for. Similarly, I was grossed out when Sonny and Carly's way of dealing with their son being shot was humping in the back of a car. I hate seeing Days going down the road of GH here.

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Half the people posting their disdain for this Safe sex scene aren't even Ejami fans. Some are Lumi fans, some aren't fans of Sami at all, some aren't fans of Rafe at all. It's not just EJ and Sami fans who take issue with this Safe sex scene. I wouldn't think it appropriate if they had EJ and Sami having sex while their kid was missing either.
These posts about Safe sex are funny. Rafe and Sami are in a loving relationship and have had sex tons of times already so it is natural for them - now if they were making love the the first time I could understand people saying is this the time to be doing this?

I agree with it not being appropriate for EJ and Sami to have sex because he is still married to Nicole last time I checked and he and Sami can barely be civil to each other...he's using every opportunity to touch Sami and it's so funny watching Roman and Rafe eye him doing it.

GG and AS talked about all the EJ touching it in their interview with Michael Fairman and AS said most of that isn't in the script but JS does some of it to wind up GG. :lol: and GG said he loves doing those scenes with JS and AS.

Now if we can just get the viewers to have as much fun as the cast is having..... :tounge:
In the interview, AS and GG were only talking about one particular scene after Sami and EJ were at Grace's grave and Rafe called and was all jealous that he heard EJ in the background. At the end of that scene, JS ad libbed a kiss on Sami's cheek to get a rise out of GG who was a few feet away. That doesn't mean everytime there's physical contact between EJ and SAmi, it's ad libbed and really about JS and GG (sorry Ejafe fans!).

The Safe sex is just gross. That might be realistic but that's not why I watch soaps. And I'd feel that way no matter who was having sex--even if it was my beloved EJami. Hugging, comforting--good. Doing the nasty--nasty. I don't get why they're going there.
AS talks about the grave yard scene yes but GG talks about JS touching AS etc.....I ain't making it up it's all there to watch in the video interview if you can stand it as a non Safe fan :lol: - its almost 11 minutes long.
I've watched it. Just because I don't like Safe together doesn't mean I don't like AS and GG. :shrug:
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Dec 3 2009, 03:05 AM
Olgs1988
Dec 3 2009, 01:15 AM
If you look at the past, EJ married Nicole to get over Sami but when she got back he had his doubts.

It was only because Nicole twisted the truth about Rafe to her advantage, the marriage occurred. I

f they were left alone, Rafe wouldn't have been able to be with Sami because her love for EJ was that strong.
EJ married Nicole because he thought she had bore his child and was the anti-Sami.

Nicole knew nothing of Rafe before the marriage occurred other than he, was the one that broke into the house. And was that known before or after, there was nothing Nicole ever said about Rafe before that wasn't absolutely true. Rafe was spying on the DiMera's that day. And Nicole didn't force EJ into that marriage, she tried to get out of it and he said she was marrying him.

They were left alone, Sami was left alone to make her own decision, she went to that chapel and made the right choice not to be with a cold-blooded murdering type of guy. Philip had been shot and EJ showed no remorse. Sami dumped EJ long before that call in the safehouse, because he was using and manipulating her the whole time they were married. Keeping her married to him with the thought of deporting the only father her children had, Preying on her vulnerability and hate of Nicole (not to mention using Nicole as his pawn to hell with her feelings), & and finally manipulating the situation til she slept with him.

When Sami decided to be with EJ I realized her brain had flown South for the winter, she did not see what he was up to. Naive, would be the understatement of the century. If she goes back to EJ now, it will be because she has lost her brain again. She doesn't see him preying on her pain of loosing her daughter, everytime she turns around he trying to use empathy to caress her. Rafe and her were left alone, for month's and they found something amazing, a special bond that has yet to be broken. :hug:

I realize that I'm a cat in a room full of rocking chairs, but I'm not a fraidy one, I tend to be fearless...
As I recall, Sami was certainly not over EJ when she went into WP. I recall her talking with Lucas and Lucas saying something to the effect of "you're willing to give up the man you love?" and Sami crying about it. She fantasized about she and EJ being the ones in the wedding announcement when she saw Ecole's.

As for Rafe, we really don't know if he's a cold-blooded murderer or not, do we? He won't talk about what happened with Emily to Sami.
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kitkat
Dec 3 2009, 03:05 AM
Olgs1988
Dec 3 2009, 01:15 AM
If you look at the past, EJ married Nicole to get over Sami but when she got back he had his doubts.

It was only because Nicole twisted the truth about Rafe to her advantage, the marriage occurred. I

f they were left alone, Rafe wouldn't have been able to be with Sami because her love for EJ was that strong.
EJ married Nicole because he thought she had bore his child and was the anti-Sami.

Nicole knew nothing of Rafe before the marriage occurred other than he, was the one that broke into the house. And was that known before or after, there was nothing Nicole ever said about Rafe before that wasn't absolutely true. Rafe was spying on the DiMera's that day. And Nicole didn't force EJ into that marriage, she tried to get out of it and he said she was marrying him.

They were left alone, Sami was left alone to make her own decision, she went to that chapel and made the right choice not to be with a cold-blooded murdering type of guy. Philip had been shot and EJ showed no remorse. Sami dumped EJ long before that call in the safehouse, because he was using and manipulating her the whole time they were married. Keeping her married to him with the thought of deporting the only father her children had, Preying on her vulnerability and hate of Nicole (not to mention using Nicole as his pawn to hell with her feelings), & and finally manipulating the situation til she slept with him.

When Sami decided to be with EJ I realized her brain had flown South for the winter, she did not see what he was up to. Naive, would be the understatement of the century. If she goes back to EJ now, it will be because she has lost her brain again. She doesn't see him preying on her pain of loosing her daughter, everytime she turns around he trying to use empathy to caress her. Rafe and her were left alone, for month's and they found something amazing, a special bond that has yet to be broken. :hug:

I realize that I'm a cat in a room full of rocking chairs, but I'm not a fraidy one, I tend to be fearless...
If enough cats join you in the rocking chairs, do they break? LOL
Cause I tend to agree with you. I'm still bitter that I won't get my wonderful EJ/Nicole scenes again, though. :P
I am highly interested in seeing where EJ and Arianna go, though. Right now, there might be something, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure how I feel about EJ right now. Right now, I kinda want him to be lonely.
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Dec 2 2009, 01:21 PM
National Enquirer Spoilers (Thanks to angmc)
- Safe sex
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thanks angie
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I hate cats...but there's lots of us "cats" that never believed Sami is/was/will ever be in love with EJ.

I do hate the fact that they make EJ the love sick puppy pining away for some fucked up fantasy of being with his victim. He supposed to be a bad ass DiMera. Sami can have him if he's going to act like some pussy whos always crying "poor me."

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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

kitkat
Dec 3 2009, 12:03 AM
Sami and Rafe make love and Sami and EJ's connections grows, this is fucked up. I've heard of playing one fan base against each other, but this is ridiculous. Why don't they have an orgie and get it over with?
Brace yourself...this is only the beginning. This is no where near the worst fan base pitting that's ever happened. In fact, this is nothing compared to the EJamicus days.
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LMAO! ^ You mean where Sami would go kiss EJ in a wheelchair, then go sex up Lucas on the sofa, then go back to EJ and pretend they were married.
Oh yes, good times!

Right now, I really don't care for any of the pairings, especially with EJ. I am kind of hoping he will be lonely too. I don't buy his true feelings for anyone right now except himself. Can't he and Sami be without a partner for two seconds? Needy little bitches, aren't they?
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Dec 3 2009, 09:07 AM
kitkat
Dec 3 2009, 12:03 AM
Sami and Rafe make love and Sami and EJ's connections grows, this is fucked up. I've heard of playing one fan base against each other, but this is ridiculous. Why don't they have an orgie and get it over with?
Brace yourself...this is only the beginning. This is no where near the worst fan base pitting that's ever happened. In fact, this is nothing compared to the EJamicus days.
Seriously. I guess some people weren't watching Days at the time. This is nothing compared to that mess.
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angmc
Dec 3 2009, 09:51 AM
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Dec 3 2009, 09:07 AM
kitkat
Dec 3 2009, 12:03 AM
Sami and Rafe make love and Sami and EJ's connections grows, this is fucked up. I've heard of playing one fan base against each other, but this is ridiculous. Why don't they have an orgie and get it over with?
Brace yourself...this is only the beginning. This is no where near the worst fan base pitting that's ever happened. In fact, this is nothing compared to the EJamicus days.
Seriously. I guess some people weren't watching Days at the time. This is nothing compared to that mess.
At least it somewhat made sense storyline wise back then, though. It doesn't now at all.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

lysie
Dec 3 2009, 09:57 AM
angmc
Dec 3 2009, 09:51 AM
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Dec 3 2009, 09:07 AM
kitkat
Dec 3 2009, 12:03 AM
Sami and Rafe make love and Sami and EJ's connections grows, this is fucked up. I've heard of playing one fan base against each other, but this is ridiculous. Why don't they have an orgie and get it over with?
Brace yourself...this is only the beginning. This is no where near the worst fan base pitting that's ever happened. In fact, this is nothing compared to the EJamicus days.
Seriously. I guess some people weren't watching Days at the time. This is nothing compared to that mess.
At least it somewhat made sense storyline wise back then, though. It doesn't now at all.
and back then they wrote the storyline (Vendetta) to be able to justify it...unless they write something now it won't fly the way they have been writing Safe to be the all powerful couple of late.....all the rootable writing is going to them unless they bring back Rafe's past now it won't make sense either.
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Rafe and Roman are the two biggest douchebags in the world. E.J. made a big mistake with this one. I would have let Stephano find the baby. No time to be petulant. Roman is the dumbest cop ever portrayed on t.v. except for Barney Fife. And yet, he takes himself sooo seriously. That's right, you perpetually ineffective twit. Sit around on your pork-fat ass in a coffee shop while waiting for calls from people to tell you that they can't find your grandaughter. Go get some more auburn hairplugs since you seem so carefree. And quit giving Bo relationship advice. First of all, not your forte. Second of all go find your grandaughter! Without you as Marlena's little bitch, you serve no purpose.

If you have a missing child in the hands of a complete stranger and it makes you horny then you are sicker than the abductor. I can't wait to see how they try and pull that off with any sort of flow. lol. Get out t he k-y honey, our kid has spiral meningitis. sick sick sick. But then again, I have always maintained that Higley is a very disturbed person. Some day, I believe we will see her in real life, being arrested for a hideous crime beyond anything her sick mind has conjured up for our beloved show thus far. :jedi:
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Dec 3 2009, 09:07 AM
kitkat
Dec 3 2009, 12:03 AM
Sami and Rafe make love and Sami and EJ's connections grows, this is fucked up. I've heard of playing one fan base against each other, but this is ridiculous. Why don't they have an orgie and get it over with?
Brace yourself...this is only the beginning. This is no where near the worst fan base pitting that's ever happened. In fact, this is nothing compared to the EJamicus days.
actually I was around for EJ/Sami/Lucas.... at least Sami was a different type of person. EJ was then being honest with Sami, even after the rape and the black glove thing, I was willing to give EJ a chance-- but then the controlling, manipulating spouse stepped in. I can not stand for Sami to be the obediant naive pet, and that's what she was to EJ, and it sickened me. Lucas was being too much of a hot head, and needed a swift kick. I think this is worse, not worse than EJ showing up on Lucas & Sami's honeymoon, now that one took the cake.

GES.... loved your Rolf/Nicole banner, it made me want to..... want to...... :puke: .
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Dec 3 2009, 11:06 AM
Rafe and Roman are the two biggest douchebags in the world. E.J. made a big mistake with this one. I would have let Stephano find the baby. No time to be petulant. Roman is the dumbest cop ever portrayed on t.v. except for Barney Fife. And yet, he takes himself sooo seriously. That's right, you perpetually ineffective twit. Sit around on your pork-fat ass in a coffee shop while waiting for calls from people to tell you that they can't find your grandaughter. Go get some more auburn hairplugs since you seem so carefree. And quit giving Bo relationship advice. First of all, not your forte. Second of all go find your grandaughter! Without you as Marlena's little bitch, you serve no purpose.

If you have a missing child in the hands of a complete stranger and it makes you horny then you are sicker than the abductor. I can't wait to see how they try and pull that off with any sort of flow. lol. Get out t he k-y honey, our kid has spiral meningitis. sick sick sick. But then again, I have always maintained that Higley is a very disturbed person. Some day, I believe we will see her in real life, being arrested for a hideous crime beyond anything her sick mind has conjured up for our beloved show thus far. :jedi:
:hail: Great post!! :rockon:
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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You mean like not daring to ask any questions about dead fiances and why their sister might be ticked about it? That kind of obedient? I'm right there with you - I can't stand that trait in Sami. :shame: But I have never, ever seen her that way with EJ. Obedient? Seriously??

I really wonder at times if we're talking about the same show - much less the same characters.
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I can not stand for Sami to be the obediant naive pet


You mean like not daring to ask any questions about dead fiances and why their sister might be ticked about it? That kind of obedient? I'm right there with you - I can't stand that trait in Sami. :shame: But I have never, ever seen her that way with EJ. Obedient? Seriously??

I really wonder at times if we're talking about the same show - much less the same characters.
And remember how proud Sami was that she didn't ask Rafe questions about what He had been doing? She was being a good girl for St.Rafe. :puke:
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