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SOD/SOW: Carly declares her love to Bo!; Dec 29th issues; Summary of Articles
Topic Started: Dec 16 2009, 09:09 PM (9,795 Views)
Euripedes


daysfanbrady
Dec 17 2009, 12:48 AM
reva and olivia were rivals on guiding light? i thought they were freindly
Oh, gosh. Olivia hated Reva with a passion. They grew to understand each other eventually during the final two or three years, but even with that there was always some snark or smart comment.

Carly and Hope could end up becoming similar to Olivia and Reva. However, there is no indication just yet that Carly is the anti-heroine and Hope has not been as propped as Reva. Reva, gross.

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Firstly, Peter does not need anyone to make him “come alive” in scenes. He is an immense talent in his own right does perfectly fine all by himself. The man was nominated for an Emmy this year for crying out loud. Secondly, to say that he “looks bored” in scenes with anyone is an not only an insult to him as an actor, but also to Kristian and Crystal who are both talented actresses in their own right.

Now onto the storyline.

This story is finally getting to the good bit for me. There have been no real surprises for me so far (except perhaps for the lopsided way the characters have been written to date). What does surprise me, however, is how quickly this story is moving along.

The way I see it is that Bo and Hope are both trapped in bad behaviour patterns and current and past hurts are colliding and crashing in on top of them. They are in pain and are hurting and don’t know how to fix things. So they are both looking to escape from that pain in different ways. Which means at the moment they are running in opposite directions, away from what they see as the source of that pain and difficulty — each other.

As with anything that is badly damaged, sometimes the only way to fix it is to tear it down, so that you can rebuild it to make it stronger and better, rather than to keep doing bandaid repairs. And this is how I see this story playing out for Bo and Hope. I am sure there is going to be a lot of bumps and twists and turns ahead and it’s going to be a long, tough road. I don’t think they have even hit rock bottom yet. But I am so loving this story and can’t wait to follow Bo and Hope’s journey as they find the road back to each other and build a relationship that is stronger than ever before. I am so excited to think that I will get to see Bo and Hope fall in love all over again. It’s fantastic.
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Morganarose


I so agree. Carly is just a detriment not a solution for Bo.....Bo and Hope will eventually work out their past issues and come back stronger. What would be the story if Bo and Carly got together---then what?---booring story line These two characters belong to one another---They have too much history and love so deeply that this angst between them needs to happen so they can find their way back to each other.
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Harmony233


Euripedes
Dec 17 2009, 02:21 AM
daysfanbrady
Dec 17 2009, 12:48 AM
reva and olivia were rivals on guiding light? i thought they were freindly
Oh, gosh. Olivia hated Reva with a passion. They grew to understand each other eventually during the final two or three years, but even with that there was always some snark or smart comment.

Carly and Hope could end up becoming similar to Olivia and Reva. However, there is no indication just yet that Carly is the anti-heroine and Hope has not been as propped as Reva. Reva, gross.

Reva and Olivia used to crack me up.On the other hand I think Olivia was the only woman that survived coming between Reva and Josh and didn't totally go insane.
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sungrey


Sam09
Dec 16 2009, 10:01 PM
Mason
Dec 16 2009, 09:36 PM
I can (grudgingly) buy that Carly has renewed feelings for Bo. OK. What I can't swallow is that Bo returns those feelings, regardless of his situation with Hope. I do look forward to the scenes between Bo and Hope, though.

And I too am upset that we won't be seeing the Horton house for Christmas this year.
Why? Bo loved Carly deeply. Hope has been treating Bo like a piece of trash for a long while now. She never lets him forget his flaws. She blames him for everything and always assumes the worst. This is not new. Hope has been doing this to Bo since the return from Aremid.

So here's a man who is being blamed by everyone for Hope's decision to move out. Here's a man who has been beaten down and suddenly here is a woman who he loved deeply, who loved him and is now soothing his ego. I don't see it as a stretch at all.

Maybe GT is not into KC's "endgame/supercouple" scenario which I think has hurt the show. Seriously, how many times can the damsel in distress stories work. For J/M, for S/K, for B/H that's all there was left..over the top, silly gimmicks to create craziness where one of them needed to be rescued.
Finally, here is a real story about love not being enough.
Hope cannot get past the blame game. Nothing Bo does will ever stop that. Realism. Time for a new chapter.
You can only ask the fans to accept so much change. I'm invested in this story as long as it's good, but I would like to see a Bo/Hope ending because it's the best thing for the show's history and family structure. (For examples on how to wreck your ratings, see Jack/Carly, ATWT or Reva/Josh, GL.)
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AlisonLou
Dec 16 2009, 11:43 PM
Sam09
Dec 16 2009, 11:35 PM

However, it would be great if the show addressed why Carly chose to leave with Lawrence. Even MS and CC found it strange and not at all making sense. I think the show could easily delve into the shock Carly was still in (being buried alive is known to be one of the greatest of all human fears universally). So shock, post traumatic shock, all would make sense. As well, wanting to be with the child that had been stolen from her all those years, makes sense as to why she would do it. That should even make sense to Hope, if only she bothers to use her so called detective skills to learn about Carly instead of asking Vic and Viv.
Yes. They have dumbed Hope down. All she does all day is moan and bitch. Her detective skills are bad in this sl at the moment. Why are they writing Hope like this? She has always been a good detective up till now. I don't like the way they are writing her at the moment.

I too didn't like the way they wrote Carly out. It was stupid. I remember watching it and wondering why they had her leave like this.
You can blame Reilly for that one. He was in such a hurry to shove Matt Ashford, Michael Sabatino and Crystal Chappell out the door that he horribly botched the Carly/Lawrence ending.
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Ellie
Dec 16 2009, 09:09 PM
Bo decides to step out for a few moments to take a walk. Reckell explains that Bo can't be with Carly, which would be "nice and relaxed and simple", but he can't be with Hope either, because "Hope's family is making it uncomfortable for him." Alfonso says, "Bo walks out of the house and Hope walks out after him. She knows that she's losing him and she says to him, 'I wish we could go back. If this was a movie, you would wrap your arms around me and tell me it was going to be okay.' And he basically says, 'But it's not' and walks off." Alfonso says Hope "crumbles" and realizes things are over between them; she's upset that Bo "doesn't seem to have any remorse or empathy or guilt about what's taking place."

Well, that part sounds pretty good. I get that Hope is being written to be extremely annoying and she is the one who moved out and now she's bitching about another woman moving in, blah blah blah, but I still have some sympathy for her. I honestly do not care whether Bo and Hope stay together or Bo and Carly get together--I have no horse in that race at all, the only pairing of Bo's I ever liked was with Billie. I just hope it plays out in an emotionally logical way, if that's not an oxymoron.

Thanks for posting, Ellie!
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I can't believe this! I am heartbroken, I know things have to change and evolve but I have been a bo hope fan since the beginning in 1983 and these two just don't belong with anyone else, it doesn't work.....I am just sick over this. :'(
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KathyRon


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Dec 17 2009, 10:05 AM
I can't believe this! I am heartbroken, I know things have to change and evolve but I have been a bo hope fan since the beginning in 1983 and these two just don't belong with anyone else, it doesn't work.....I am just sick over this. :'(
I think if you watch this storyline begin to play out, you will realize that you can't rebuild Bo & Hope without taking them through this journey! Is it going to painful. Oh yeah. However, the painful part of this story is not just going to be Bo & Hope, but it will also be Bo & Carly. Bo & Carly are both looking for whatever comfort they can find. As Peter said the port in a storm. That is what they will be to each other. For a while! The reality is Bo loves Hope completely and totally. And therin will be why Bo and Hope will never be "over." This is going to be a longing and angst love story for Bope as well as a rediscovery of what they thought was a strong love actually being stronger than they ever thought possible! :makeout:

It's also a Bo & Carly story! A story about how after sixteen years sometimes the memory of the great love you once had, is just that.......a memory! However, that can also be great story to tell. Make no mistake, this is a Bo and Hope story with alot more pain to come. However, just when you think there is no turning back, that moment happens that let's you know, awwwwwww here we go again! :wave: This is going to be great stuff for Peter, Kristian and Crystal to play! Hopefully, while all will debate the things that happen during it, we will appreciate the fact that these great people are being showcased.....FINALLY! Now if we could just get this babyswitch storyline done! :frustration: Oh wait! That will get settled in some form as well!
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sungrey


I agree. I really don't think you have to worry about a permanent Bo/Hope split. TPTB wouldn't be that stupid, because there are still many 20 and 30-year fans of the show like myself that watch Days and remember the magic that Bo and Hope once shared. So take them down a road that you wouldn't dream of traveling down for the time being. Make Hope realize how bitter she's become (Doug? Care to have a couple scenes with Hope here??).

Bo and Hope will be the endgame. The supercouple era is NOT necessarily dead. You just need to play the stories out in a different way. Instead of them battling outside forces and having to "save" each other, all of the forces are coming from within their own marriage.
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sungrey
Dec 17 2009, 11:59 AM
I agree. I really don't think you have to worry about a permanent Bo/Hope split. TPTB wouldn't be that stupid, because there are still many 20 and 30-year fans of the show like myself that watch Days and remember the magic that Bo and Hope once shared. So take them down a road that you wouldn't dream of traveling down for the time being. Make Hope realize how bitter she's become (Doug? Care to have a couple scenes with Hope here??).

Bo and Hope will be the endgame. The supercouple era is NOT necessarily dead. You just need to play the stories out in a different way. Instead of them battling outside forces and having to "save" each other, all of the forces are coming from within their own marriage.
And there were many 20 and 30 year fans who swore they would never watch without J/M, without J/J, without S/K and guess what, the show is still on, and doing as well, if not better than when those supercouples were on, repeating the same stories of two decades, over and over and over and over.

No couple, no character carries a show anymore. At one time, when the three networks dominated it was a whole different ball game. There was money for lots of magical location shots. There was an bigger audience because there were fewer alternatives. Now, the shows are strapped for money. No locations. Barely enough sets.

NOW, the answer is in good drama. More believable drama than possessions, and magical prisms, or bahkas or brain chips. There are only so many kidnappings of the damsel that are believable. Hope has been kidnapped and has died so many times it's a joke. Bo and Hope ultimately will become props or sent off like the others. For the fans of the actors, imo, the return of Carly is giving the other actors some fine frontburner stuff. For the characters, it's either get over the supercouple boxed in demand or get rid of them. I think the demands of other supercouple fans refusing to give their "couple" a chance to be individuals ended up costing them. Bo can survive as individual character. So can Hope because Peter and Kristian have the talent to pull it off, if the fans let them have the chance.
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clenche100


ITA with sam09 pple thot the show was gonna get cancelled with john/marlena gonna, but guess wat the show is going strong. the thing is supercouple/endgame staff has really killed the soaps. I for one i was glad to see john/marlena gone becoz just like bope their storylines were getting really old and boring.
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You guys make a lot of sense. I just really didn't want another bo/hope/billie story that went on for 10 years and imo tooooo longgggggg. But the fact that these great actors are on the front burner is a definite plus! I'm really sick of the baby story or any story having to do with Sami, Alison is a great actress but the only time I liked the sami character was when she was born in 84!
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Wow, thanks for posting. Sounds like some really good stuff coming up. I was so annoyed with this storyline at first but now I'm totally sucked in. Just reading this article made me want to cry =*(
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sungrey


Sam09
Dec 17 2009, 12:36 PM
sungrey
Dec 17 2009, 11:59 AM
I agree. I really don't think you have to worry about a permanent Bo/Hope split. TPTB wouldn't be that stupid, because there are still many 20 and 30-year fans of the show like myself that watch Days and remember the magic that Bo and Hope once shared. So take them down a road that you wouldn't dream of traveling down for the time being. Make Hope realize how bitter she's become (Doug? Care to have a couple scenes with Hope here??).

Bo and Hope will be the endgame. The supercouple era is NOT necessarily dead. You just need to play the stories out in a different way. Instead of them battling outside forces and having to "save" each other, all of the forces are coming from within their own marriage.
And there were many 20 and 30 year fans who swore they would never watch without J/M, without J/J, without S/K and guess what, the show is still on, and doing as well, if not better than when those supercouples were on, repeating the same stories of two decades, over and over and over and over.

No couple, no character carries a show anymore. At one time, when the three networks dominated it was a whole different ball game. There was money for lots of magical location shots. There was an bigger audience because there were fewer alternatives. Now, the shows are strapped for money. No locations. Barely enough sets.

NOW, the answer is in good drama. More believable drama than possessions, and magical prisms, or bahkas or brain chips. There are only so many kidnappings of the damsel that are believable. Hope has been kidnapped and has died so many times it's a joke. Bo and Hope ultimately will become props or sent off like the others. For the fans of the actors, imo, the return of Carly is giving the other actors some fine frontburner stuff. For the characters, it's either get over the supercouple boxed in demand or get rid of them. I think the demands of other supercouple fans refusing to give their "couple" a chance to be individuals ended up costing them. Bo can survive as individual character. So can Hope because Peter and Kristian have the talent to pull it off, if the fans let them have the chance.
The fans will let them have the chance, and they will be the first ones to complain if the story isn't done well. Days has the chance to do some really good stuff in the new year with this and the story involving Suzanne Rogers (which I won't spoil here but I assume most here know about it already).

What the show has lacked in previous regimes is execution. Chris Whitesell isn't the best writer Days has had, but he shows signs of getting it. I think these stories have potential, but if badly executed the fans will be pissed.

Hey, I'm a Bo and Hope fan and I won't apologize for it. However, I'll be the first to welcome a good story for this couple. Give me the story.
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Sam09
Dec 17 2009, 12:36 PM
sungrey
Dec 17 2009, 11:59 AM
I agree. I really don't think you have to worry about a permanent Bo/Hope split. TPTB wouldn't be that stupid, because there are still many 20 and 30-year fans of the show like myself that watch Days and remember the magic that Bo and Hope once shared. So take them down a road that you wouldn't dream of traveling down for the time being. Make Hope realize how bitter she's become (Doug? Care to have a couple scenes with Hope here??).

Bo and Hope will be the endgame. The supercouple era is NOT necessarily dead. You just need to play the stories out in a different way. Instead of them battling outside forces and having to "save" each other, all of the forces are coming from within their own marriage.
And there were many 20 and 30 year fans who swore they would never watch without J/M, without J/J, without S/K and guess what, the show is still on, and doing as well, if not better than when those supercouples were on, repeating the same stories of two decades, over and over and over and over.

No couple, no character carries a show anymore. At one time, when the three networks dominated it was a whole different ball game. There was money for lots of magical location shots. There was an bigger audience because there were fewer alternatives. Now, the shows are strapped for money. No locations. Barely enough sets.

NOW, the answer is in good drama. More believable drama than possessions, and magical prisms, or bahkas or brain chips. There are only so many kidnappings of the damsel that are believable. Hope has been kidnapped and has died so many times it's a joke. Bo and Hope ultimately will become props or sent off like the others. For the fans of the actors, imo, the return of Carly is giving the other actors some fine frontburner stuff. For the characters, it's either get over the supercouple boxed in demand or get rid of them. I think the demands of other supercouple fans refusing to give their "couple" a chance to be individuals ended up costing them. Bo can survive as individual character. So can Hope because Peter and Kristian have the talent to pull it off, if the fans let them have the chance.
I agree 100%. You said it all right there.
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The writing for this storyline is the problem. I just read that Vivian plans to turn Carly's child against her. Wasn't this already done when Vivian tried to turn Nikki against Carly? And according to the Canadian day ahead Vivian kills one of Carly's patients. That's been done before too. This storyline is getting a little to repetitive of past storylines. It's getting boring! It's the same stories over and over again. I think these writers have been recycling scripts. I wish they would have written this storyline better. I've seen alot of anger about the Bo and Hope breakup and so many people on other boards already want them back together. Thats not good for this storyline if people are already sick of the Bo and Hope breakup. There is also the many fans who don't come online and read spoilers as a previous poster said. I doubt they are going to like seeing their favourite couple breakup. Some are saying if Bope are broken up for too long they will stop watching. That is not good. If people are talking about walking away and watching another soap then what hope does this storyline have? What hope does days have of staying on the air if people stop watching? I think if this Bo and Hope breakup drags on for too long the show will lose viewers. The last time they broke Bope up the ratings went down. I just hope the writers realise keeping this couple apart for too long will only hurt days and not help it.
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AlisonLou
Dec 17 2009, 06:37 PM
The writing for this storyline is the problem. I just read that Vivian plans to turn Carly's child against her. Wasn't this already done when Vivian tried to turn Nikki against Carly? And according to the Canadian day ahead Vivian kills one of Carly's patients. That's been done before too. This storyline is getting a little to repetitive of past storylines. It's getting boring! It's the same stories over and over again. I think these writers have been recycling scripts. I wish they would have written this storyline better. I've seen alot of anger about the Bo and Hope breakup and so many people on other boards already want them back together. Thats not good for this storyline if people are already sick of the Bo and Hope breakup. There is also the many fans who don't come online and read spoilers as a previous poster said. I doubt they are going to like seeing their favourite couple breakup. Some are saying if Bope are broken up for too long they will stop watching. That is not good. If people are talking about walking away and watching another soap then what hope does this storyline have? What hope does days have of staying on the air if people stop watching? I think if this Bo and Hope breakup drags on for too long the show will lose viewers. The last time they broke Bope up the ratings went down. I just hope the writers realise keeping this couple apart for too long will only hurt days and not help it.
This is from Prevuze (http://prevuze.blogspot.com/)
Carly heads in to check on Mrs. Parker. "Late night burritos," says Lexie, "Sounds great."

Inside the room, Carly pulls the covers back to check out Mrs. Parker and instead finds a...

DEAD BODY!

Lexie rushes into the room with Carly. Carly shows her the little surprise, "Where is Mrs. Parker and how did our 'friend' here get in that bed?"

Carly finds a sprig of baby's breath in Mrs. Rigormortis' hair, "This wasn't a mistake." She flashes back to the flowers.

Vivian didnt kill her patient. The old woman miraculously switched two bodies without anybody seeing. lol
Its amazing the type of sneaky strength people on soaps have
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Dec 17 2009, 06:37 PM
The writing for this storyline is the problem. I just read that Vivian plans to turn Carly's child against her. Wasn't this already done when Vivian tried to turn Nikki against Carly? And according to the Canadian day ahead Vivian kills one of Carly's patients. That's been done before too. This storyline is getting a little to repetitive of past storylines. It's getting boring! It's the same stories over and over again. I think these writers have been recycling scripts. I wish they would have written this storyline better. I've seen alot of anger about the Bo and Hope breakup and so many people on other boards already want them back together. Thats not good for this storyline if people are already sick of the Bo and Hope breakup. There is also the many fans who don't come online and read spoilers as a previous poster said. I doubt they are going to like seeing their favourite couple breakup. Some are saying if Bope are broken up for too long they will stop watching. That is not good. If people are talking about walking away and watching another soap then what hope does this storyline have? What hope does days have of staying on the air if people stop watching? I think if this Bo and Hope breakup drags on for too long the show will lose viewers. The last time they broke Bope up the ratings went down. I just hope the writers realise keeping this couple apart for too long will only hurt days and not help it.
I'm really hoping thats not Vivs big revenge plan aganist Carly turning her daughter aganist her.Talk about lame.
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Sam09
Dec 17 2009, 12:43 AM
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Dec 17 2009, 12:25 AM
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Dec 17 2009, 12:21 AM
I for one am loving Bo and Carly....I really hope Days explores this wonderful couple and gives Bo and Carly fans there chance to see them together again...whether it be for a while or for the short term. I want to see them explore this. If GL can break up Josh and Reva and Y&R can break up Victor and Nikki...why can't Days break up Bo and Hope.

I agree with the poster that said if Peter Reckell had stayed all those years ago things would have been so different...there would have been no Billie...it would have been Carly/Bo/Hope....Days own version of B&B's Brooke/Ridge/Taylor triangle or Y&R's Ashley/Victor/Nikki.

I've loved DAYS since the Day Carly returned (I hadn't followed regularly in years). Peter Reckell's comes alive in his scenes with Crystal and Crystal is finally comfortable as Carly. I'll also say that I think Kristian Alfonso is doing great acting too...I can't wait to see the Day (I hope) that Bo and Carly are an official couple has Hope has to deal with this. I want to see Alfonso and Chappell have a huge confrontation scene where they both take the gloves off and go at it.

If any GL fans are Days fan, Chappell and Kim Zimmer were awesome rivals as Olivia and Reva...I think Alfonso and Chappell could have that same explosive rivalry if Days plays it right.

Great Job Days. Great Triangle....which is about 16 years overdue.
I am so tired of this Peter Reckell comes alive in his scenes with Crystal nonsense.

If you "hadn't followed regularly in years," what are you basing this on??!

Peter is and always has been alive and well in his scenes with every actor he works with. In fact, I think he looks the most bored with Crystal than anyone I've EVER seen him work with. And this is based on actually having watched the show for the past 15 years LOL :wave:

And I have watched the show for the last 30 years. Yes Reckell is good with everyone......but the writing has been stale for years.
Same old, same old, damsel in distress crap. Hope gets in trouble, Bo has to save her, and they are back again. Over and over and over.
Crystal has given Peter and Kristian frontburner stuff. All three are doing fantastic. Peter is not, does not looked bored with Crystal or with Kristian. It's clear he is loving the work, so is Kristian.

Some people will enjoy, did enjoy Bo and Carly. And they count every bit as much as those who enjoy Bo and Hope.
I agree with you. Peter Reckell is good with everyone. I hope this storyline delves into all those reasons that Bope isn't working. Carly is a person who comes in and values all that Bo has to offer; friendship, protection, unconditional regard. Bo's not getting any of that from Hope. So, he turns to Carly for warmth. Definetly doesn't mean that he's going to dive into a full blown relationship with Carly. I hope the story is written from the emotional and not physical aspects of a marriage and relationship.
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