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Spoilers for wk of December 28th; *UPDATED 12/25*
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Topic Started: Dec 16 2009, 09:56 PM (18,440 Views)
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Dec 18 2009, 07:53 PM
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Tell me when it's safe to go back in the water....................... :D
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Dec 18 2009, 07:59 PM
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I do think down the road EJ wants to get close to Sami to try and break up SAFE, but I think the text is too soon. I think hes going to lure her in again and tell her about another one oh his "brilliant ideas" on how to get Sydney.
I agree that having EJ & Sami together as couple is so boring. They dont even look like they like each other!
I also tend to think that this regime's plan is not EJ & Sami but rather SAFE. Sure there's going to be angst for SAFE via EJ, but we have seen that Sami is in love with Rafe, so if EJ interferes, he'll be the loser (again!) I wouldnt want that for EJ! Umm, where did anyone in the thread say that Ej & Sami together were boring?IMO they're anything but, that particular monicker is owned by another character in Salem. I do agree tho, that if EJ is behind this, he's playing Sami & is in full revenge mode. As to the regime plan who knows, but I think we'll have a clearer picture this time next year.......if they're still on the air. Here's hoping!
If no one has, I'll be happy, too. I think they're dull as dirt. They used to be good. They lost whatever they had a LONG time ago, IMO. I think both options are boring. I wish the show would pick another "A" story, so there'd be something else to talk about more consistently. Quelle surprise.
I wasn't asking if anyone thought they were boring, cue an avalanche of Safe fan comments, but just trying to follow the thread.
But hey, to each, his/her own flavour.
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Dec 18 2009, 08:07 PM
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CDN TV Guide Spoilers
Monday Vivian tells Victor that Carly delivered a baby years ago; Hope asks Justin to help her move on from Bo.
Tuesday Hope walks in on Bo and Carly; Brady confronts Victor over Arianna's secret.
Wednesday EJ threatens to replace Troy with Arianna; Bo and Carly share another intimate moment.
Thursday EJ asks Sami to meet with him secretly; Hope and Justin lay out a plan to search Vivian's room. This spoiler reads funny to me. It sounds like it doesn't mean that it's her own baby. I know what it means, it's just weird.
For some reason every time I see or hear Troy and Arianna's names together, I think of High School Musical. I know that girl's name was Gabriela (or I think it was), but it always catches my attention. Hopefully, Troy and Gabi won't share scenes, because that will really mess with me.
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Dec 18 2009, 08:17 PM
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- Dec 16 2009, 09:56 PM
**UPDATED 12/18**
CDN TV Guide Spoilers
Monday Vivian tells Victor that Carly delivered a baby years ago; Hope asks Justin to help her move on from Bo.
Tuesday Hope walks in on Bo and Carly; Brady confronts Victor over Arianna's secret.
Wednesday EJ threatens to replace Troy with Arianna; Bo and Carly share another intimate moment.
Thursday EJ asks Sami to meet with him secretly; Hope and Justin lay out a plan to search Vivian's room.
I knew it! It's Bo/Billie/Hope/Patrick all over again! Days have blown it big time with this sl! One things for sure I won't be watching Mondays show. Hope and Justin are gross! That is the worst pairing ever! I think the writers have made a huge mistake! I do believe though we are going to see Hope fight for Bo! I'm thinking Justin's going to tell Hope to fight for Bo and that's why they search Vivian's room!
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Dec 18 2009, 08:24 PM
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I do think down the road EJ wants to get close to Sami to try and break up SAFE, but I think the text is too soon. I think hes going to lure her in again and tell her about another one oh his "brilliant ideas" on how to get Sydney.
I agree that having EJ & Sami together as couple is so boring. They dont even look like they like each other!
I also tend to think that this regime's plan is not EJ & Sami but rather SAFE. Sure there's going to be angst for SAFE via EJ, but we have seen that Sami is in love with Rafe, so if EJ interferes, he'll be the loser (again!) I wouldnt want that for EJ!
Umm, where did anyone in the thread say that Ej & Sami together were boring? IMO they're anything but, that particular monicker is owned by another character in Salem. I do agree tho, that if EJ is behind this, he's playing Sami & is in full revenge mode. As to the regime plan who knows, but I think we'll have a clearer picture this time next year.......if they're still on the air. Here's hoping! Actually when someone says ITA, that means "I totally agree," so someone quoted me saying that they fully agree with my statement!
I dont care for ANY SAMI PAIRING! I think she cuts the balls out of every man she sets her sites on. This time its Rafe.
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Dec 18 2009, 08:42 PM
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I do think down the road EJ wants to get close to Sami to try and break up SAFE, but I think the text is too soon. I think hes going to lure her in again and tell her about another one oh his "brilliant ideas" on how to get Sydney.
I agree that having EJ & Sami together as couple is so boring. They dont even look like they like each other!
I also tend to think that this regime's plan is not EJ & Sami but rather SAFE. Sure there's going to be angst for SAFE via EJ, but we have seen that Sami is in love with Rafe, so if EJ interferes, he'll be the loser (again!) I wouldnt want that for EJ!
Umm, where did anyone in the thread say that Ej & Sami together were boring? IMO they're anything but, that particular monicker is owned by another character in Salem. I do agree tho, that if EJ is behind this, he's playing Sami & is in full revenge mode. As to the regime plan who knows, but I think we'll have a clearer picture this time next year.......if they're still on the air. Here's hoping!
Actually when someone says ITA, that means "I totally agree," so someone quoted me saying that they fully agree with my statement! I dont care for ANY SAMI PAIRING! I think she cuts the balls out of every man she sets her sites on. This time its Rafe. I know what ITA means, so I'll pass on the patronising "web 101" lesson, thanks.
My question was in reference to your statement and where, before it, anyone said Sami & EJ were boring. From your answer it's clear they didn't. As I said earlier, I'm sure an avalanche of Safe fans would queue up to agree with that statement.
If you don't like any Sami pairing, this show must be torture for you. We get it on pretty much a daily basis and I don't see that changing in the future, lol.
Interesting you thoughts about Sami's impact on men. From what I've seen, it seems that Sami's character is the one to have changed most in the Safe relationship to date. If anyone's been emasculated, I think it's been Sami's character rather than Rafe, but the clock is still ticking on this one.
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Dec 18 2009, 08:42 PM
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Anyone else think that when Hope and Justin search Viv's room.They will find Lawrences letter and then Hope will think that Bo is the man that Carly had the affair with.?
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Dec 18 2009, 08:44 PM
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Anyone else think that when Hope and Justin search Viv's room.They will find Lawrences letter and then Hope will think that Bo is the man that Carly had the affair with.? I think today's show cemented that actually, lol.
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Dec 18 2009, 08:53 PM
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I do think down the road EJ wants to get close to Sami to try and break up SAFE, but I think the text is too soon. I think hes going to lure her in again and tell her about another one oh his "brilliant ideas" on how to get Sydney.
I agree that having EJ & Sami together as couple is so boring. They dont even look like they like each other!
I also tend to think that this regime's plan is not EJ & Sami but rather SAFE. Sure there's going to be angst for SAFE via EJ, but we have seen that Sami is in love with Rafe, so if EJ interferes, he'll be the loser (again!) I wouldnt want that for EJ!
Umm, where did anyone in the thread say that Ej & Sami together were boring? IMO they're anything but, that particular monicker is owned by another character in Salem. I do agree tho, that if EJ is behind this, he's playing Sami & is in full revenge mode. As to the regime plan who knows, but I think we'll have a clearer picture this time next year.......if they're still on the air. Here's hoping!
Actually when someone says ITA, that means "I totally agree," so someone quoted me saying that they fully agree with my statement! I dont care for ANY SAMI PAIRING! I think she cuts the balls out of every man she sets her sites on. This time its Rafe.
I know what ITA means, so I'll pass on the patronising "web 101" lesson, thanks. My question was in reference to your statement and where, before it, anyone said Sami & EJ were boring. From your answer it's clear they didn't. As I said earlier, I'm sure an avalanche of Safe fans would queue up to agree with that statement. If you don't like any Sami pairing, this show must be torture for you. We get it on pretty much a daily basis and I don't see that changing in the future, lol. Interesting you thoughts about Sami's impact on men. From what I've seen, it seems that Sami's character is the one to have changed most in the Safe relationship to date. If anyone's been emasculated, I think it's been Sami's character rather than Rafe, but the clock is still ticking on this one. Actually someone before me said that they didnt find the pairing interesting....they didnt say boring, I said that they were boring...I guess its semantics...I think when someone says its not interesting, its boring.
You are right in that this show is torture when Sami is front and center, but I can easily FF her when shes in SAFE scenes then if she happens to be with other characters I like.
As for Sami's relationships with men, I dont think any one has lasted that long....I mean consecutive years, not the on again off again roller coaster of Lucas and Sami.
I think other then Brandon, Sami hasnt had to scheme to get this man, so I guess for Sami, that would be a step in the right direction?
Although I can see how Sami fans miss the "old Sami,' I kind of like this Sami a bit more because she finally maturing and being somewhat reflective on her actions being a contributing factor in this whole baby switch mess. Its about time she grew up a bit for the brood she has, theyre counting on her....oh wait, they count on Caroline and her babysitting!LOL
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Dec 18 2009, 10:55 PM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI agree that having EJ & Sami together as couple is so boring.
Actually when someone says ITA, that means "I totally agree," so someone quoted me saying that they fully agree with my statement! I dont care for ANY SAMI PAIRING! I think she cuts the balls out of every man she sets her sites on. This time its Rafe.
I know what ITA means, so I'll pass on the patronising "web 101" lesson, thanks. My question was in reference to your statement and where, before it, anyone said Sami & EJ were boring. From your answer it's clear they didn't. As I said earlier, I'm sure an avalanche of Safe fans would queue up to agree with that statement. If you don't like any Sami pairing, this show must be torture for you. We get it on pretty much a daily basis and I don't see that changing in the future, lol. Interesting you thoughts about Sami's impact on men. From what I've seen, it seems that Sami's character is the one to have changed most in the Safe relationship to date. If anyone's been emasculated, I think it's been Sami's character rather than Rafe, but the clock is still ticking on this one.
Actually someone before me said that they didnt find the pairing interesting....they didnt say boring, I said that they were boring...I guess its semantics...I think when someone says its not interesting, its boring. You are right in that this show is torture when Sami is front and center, but I can easily FF her when shes in SAFE scenes then if she happens to be with other characters I like. As for Sami's relationships with men, I dont think any one has lasted that long....I mean consecutive years, not the on again off again roller coaster of Lucas and Sami. I think other then Brandon, Sami hasnt had to scheme to get this man, so I guess for Sami, that would be a step in the right direction? Although I can see how Sami fans miss the "old Sami,' I kind of like this Sami a bit more because she finally maturing and being somewhat reflective on her actions being a contributing factor in this whole baby switch mess. Its about time she grew up a bit for the brood she has, theyre counting on her....oh wait, they count on Caroline and her babysitting!LOL I do miss the old Sami.
That's not to say I don't want the character to develop, just that they seem to have taken her from a troublemaker with a heart, to a cross between Marlena & Mother Theresa. And somewhere along the way she's developed this awful syrupy neediness.
I swear the writer who is responsible for some of the drivel she spouts is a ex Harlequinn writer who's been put out to pasture, as been too OTT for even penny dreadfuls! No-one says a lot of the gushing drivel (and certainly not in the puppies & rainbows forever way) that she's been spouting. It's awful.
I'd be happy for Sami to "mature" but it seems to the writers that maturing her means she has to be deified at the same time. Saint Sami. There seems to be no halfway house with these writers and she seems like a new character.
Given the menagerie of kids, I agree, she does need to grow, but that doesn't mean that I can live with her character being totally reprogrammed. Unfortunately for me, it seems like that's the way it's going to be.
Given how the show seems to drive us all nuts for varying reasons, I'm beginning to think we all must be masochists and that's why we keep watching.
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Dec 18 2009, 11:18 PM
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I'm into Sami as she is now frankly, if she pulled one more stupid scam I think would strung her up and this from a Sami fan. In regards to the spoilers I am excited about Nathan and Philip fighting, I too hope Nathan gets in some good ones, I am a full-on Phelanie fan no doubt about it, but whenever Philip and Nathan go head to head I will always be on Nathan's side.
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Dec 19 2009, 01:18 AM
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CDN TV Guide Spoilers
Monday Vivian tells Victor that Carly delivered a baby years ago; Hope asks Justin to help her move on from Bo.
Tuesday Hope walks in on Bo and Carly; Brady confronts Victor over Arianna's secret.
Wednesday EJ threatens to replace Troy with Arianna; Bo and Carly share another intimate moment.
Thursday EJ asks Sami to meet with him secretly; Hope and Justin lay out a plan to search Vivian's room. TFP, Angie! Looks like the Carly-Vivian story is picking up.
Unfortunately, it appears the drug story is as well. Didn't Brady confront Victor about Arianna's secret already? And why would EJ want to replace Troy with Arianna? Ugh. One step forward, two steps back on EJ getting his brain again?
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Dec 20 2009, 12:21 AM
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Oh shit...I am hating this intimate moment crap with Bo and Carly.
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YAY! Bo and Carly!! :wub: Can't wait!!
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I'm into Sami as she is now frankly, if she pulled one more stupid scam I think would strung her up and this from a Sami fan. In regards to the spoilers I am excited about Nathan and Philip fighting, I too hope Nathan gets in some good ones, I am a full-on Phelanie fan no doubt about it, but whenever Philip and Nathan go head to head I will always be on Nathan's side. I do agree about Sami. How many more stupid scams could they have her pull? She has already done about everything there is for her to do, and yes, I am a Sami fan, too. I think they want to make her into the motherly, Brady matriarch type with a secure family and man. There was really not much other way they could take her character at this point.
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I'm into Sami as she is now frankly, if she pulled one more stupid scam I think would strung her up and this from a Sami fan. In regards to the spoilers I am excited about Nathan and Philip fighting, I too hope Nathan gets in some good ones, I am a full-on Phelanie fan no doubt about it, but whenever Philip and Nathan go head to head I will always be on Nathan's side.
I do agree about Sami. How many more stupid scams could they have her pull? She has already done about everything there is for her to do, and yes, I am a Sami fan, too. I think they want to make her into the motherly, Brady matriarch type with a secure family and man. There was really not much other way they could take her character at this point. They certainly don't have her dressing, acting or in any way resembling a matriarch. If anything, they seem to portray her as an overaged teenager, hanging on to the leather jacket of her boyfriend for any direction and protection. She is portrayed as a helpless damsel in distress who can do nothing on her own.
If they want to make Safe the safe and secure family, then I hope that they do what they did with the other safe and secure families: ship them off to Europe so we don't have to stomach Safe anymore on our screen. Forcefeeding doesn't agree with a lot of us. :x
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Dec 20 2009, 04:32 PM
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Hi everyone! I just found your forum. I love it! Can't wait to see the fight between Nathan and Philip.
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I'm into Sami as she is now frankly, if she pulled one more stupid scam I think would strung her up and this from a Sami fan. In regards to the spoilers I am excited about Nathan and Philip fighting, I too hope Nathan gets in some good ones, I am a full-on Phelanie fan no doubt about it, but whenever Philip and Nathan go head to head I will always be on Nathan's side.
I do agree about Sami. How many more stupid scams could they have her pull? She has already done about everything there is for her to do, and yes, I am a Sami fan, too. I think they want to make her into the motherly, Brady matriarch type with a secure family and man. There was really not much other way they could take her character at this point.
They certainly don't have her dressing, acting or in any way resembling a matriarch. If anything, they seem to portray her as an overaged teenager, hanging on to the leather jacket of her boyfriend for any direction and protection. She is portrayed as a helpless damsel in distress who can do nothing on her own. If they want to make Safe the safe and secure family, then I hope that they do what they did with the other safe and secure families: ship them off to Europe so we don't have to stomach Safe anymore on our screen. Forcefeeding doesn't agree with a lot of us. :x I see her portrayed as a young woman in her 30's who is in love and happy for the first time in a long time. I didn't mean that being a matriarch of the Brady family means she has to dress or act like Caroline. I mean they need another strong Brady woman in the family. Except for Caroline, whom we never see, there isn't one. If the Brady family is to go on, then they need a strong female. Right now, I think Sami is helpless. She is still surrounded by grief to do much without support. She has no mother to lean on, grandma is never in the picture, her dad is seldom seen, her uncle is having problems of his own. She has been through a lot with the death of Grace and now losing Sydney. She needs someone to lean on and Rafe has been that person. I don't see holding onto his leather jacket as a symbol of her being an overaged teen, just a woman who needs and loves a man who has been there for her through it all. I don't think SAFE has been forcefed on us anymore than ejami was when JS first came onto the scene. I remember him immediately being paired with Sami, even tho she was with someone else.
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I'm into Sami as she is now frankly, if she pulled one more stupid scam I think would strung her up and this from a Sami fan. In regards to the spoilers I am excited about Nathan and Philip fighting, I too hope Nathan gets in some good ones, I am a full-on Phelanie fan no doubt about it, but whenever Philip and Nathan go head to head I will always be on Nathan's side.
I do agree about Sami. How many more stupid scams could they have her pull? She has already done about everything there is for her to do, and yes, I am a Sami fan, too. I think they want to make her into the motherly, Brady matriarch type with a secure family and man. There was really not much other way they could take her character at this point.
They certainly don't have her dressing, acting or in any way resembling a matriarch. If anything, they seem to portray her as an overaged teenager, hanging on to the leather jacket of her boyfriend for any direction and protection. She is portrayed as a helpless damsel in distress who can do nothing on her own. If they want to make Safe the safe and secure family, then I hope that they do what they did with the other safe and secure families: ship them off to Europe so we don't have to stomach Safe anymore on our screen. Forcefeeding doesn't agree with a lot of us. :x
I see her portrayed as a young woman in her 30's who is in love and happy for the first time in a long time. I didn't mean that being a matriarch of the Brady family means she has to dress or act like Caroline. I mean they need another strong Brady woman in the family. Except for Caroline, whom we never see, there isn't one. If the Brady family is to go on, then they need a strong female. Right now, I think Sami is helpless. She is still surrounded by grief to do much without support. She has no mother to lean on, grandma is never in the picture, her dad is seldom seen, her uncle is having problems of his own. She has been through a lot with the death of Grace and now losing Sydney. She needs someone to lean on and Rafe has been that person. I don't see holding onto his leather jacket as a symbol of her being an overaged teen, just a woman who needs and loves a man who has been there for her through it all. I don't think SAFE has been forcefed on us anymore than ejami was when JS first came onto the scene. I remember him immediately being paired with Sami, even tho she was with someone else. Of course she's not in the picture, she's too bloody busy babysitting Sam's kids!
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Dec 20 2009, 10:23 PM
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I'm into Sami as she is now frankly, if she pulled one more stupid scam I think would strung her up and this from a Sami fan. In regards to the spoilers I am excited about Nathan and Philip fighting, I too hope Nathan gets in some good ones, I am a full-on Phelanie fan no doubt about it, but whenever Philip and Nathan go head to head I will always be on Nathan's side.
I do agree about Sami. How many more stupid scams could they have her pull? She has already done about everything there is for her to do, and yes, I am a Sami fan, too. I think they want to make her into the motherly, Brady matriarch type with a secure family and man. There was really not much other way they could take her character at this point.
They certainly don't have her dressing, acting or in any way resembling a matriarch. If anything, they seem to portray her as an overaged teenager, hanging on to the leather jacket of her boyfriend for any direction and protection. She is portrayed as a helpless damsel in distress who can do nothing on her own. If they want to make Safe the safe and secure family, then I hope that they do what they did with the other safe and secure families: ship them off to Europe so we don't have to stomach Safe anymore on our screen. Forcefeeding doesn't agree with a lot of us. :x
I see her portrayed as a young woman in her 30's who is in love and happy for the first time in a long time. I didn't mean that being a matriarch of the Brady family means she has to dress or act like Caroline. I mean they need another strong Brady woman in the family. Except for Caroline, whom we never see, there isn't one. If the Brady family is to go on, then they need a strong female. Right now, I think Sami is helpless. She is still surrounded by grief to do much without support. She has no mother to lean on, grandma is never in the picture, her dad is seldom seen, her uncle is having problems of his own. She has been through a lot with the death of Grace and now losing Sydney. She needs someone to lean on and Rafe has been that person. I don't see holding onto his leather jacket as a symbol of her being an overaged teen, just a woman who needs and loves a man who has been there for her through it all. I don't think SAFE has been forcefed on us anymore than ejami was when JS first came onto the scene. I remember him immediately being paired with Sami, even tho she was with someone else. JS does not compare with GG on any level. GG has been given the golden boy, eye candy, hero, can do no wrong, one note storyline. Anyone can play Rafe.
JS developed his character as one that can stand alone and excel, or be paired with someone and excel. His character has actually become one of the top three (being humble here) of the show. He has amazing range and is able to shoulder heavy scenes and storylines of all kinds.
Most argue that EJ was never really with Samantha. And yet, here he is, one of the show's top lead characters (again being humble).
Edited by daisy132, Dec 21 2009, 12:35 AM.
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