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Weekly Discussion: Week of Dec. 21-25; Have yourself a merry little Christmas!
Topic Started: Dec 19 2009, 03:56 AM (14,857 Views)
Sindacco
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Vivian is without a doubt the one with the worst wardrobe and makeup on the show. Kate is close second.
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Sindacco
Dec 25 2009, 10:51 PM
Vivian is without a doubt the one with the worst wardrobe and makeup on the show. Kate is close second.
I don't think Kate's wardrobe is too bad. It's her hair and makeup that sucks.

As for Vivian, well... some days she hits and some days she misses, LoL. I love that I never know what she'll wear next.
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Phil and Mel look to be about the same age when they are in bed, considering Phil looks like he's still 16 with that chest of his. It's like he has a grown up looking face with a teenage body.
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When Melanie has that soft spoken, whispy voice, she reminds me of a little girl. I liked the idea of Melanie and Phillip, but this engagement has totally killed it. I can only think that it serves some plot purpose down the line that I don't know of yet, but I HATE that they are getting married so soon.

Another stupid couple is Phillip and Arianna...all they do is suck face...and while I like that in some couples, these two fight and suck face, fight and suck face. I don't buy any feelings from either of them.

Kate/Stefano/Vivian are awesome! I truly enjoy those scenes and love seeing what happens next. I think there should be more Vivian and Stefano scenes as it seems that Joe Mascolo loosens up opposite LS. I thought Kate looked good today, but the lips were a little too inflated. Loved Viv's head scarf thingy.
Hated Sami's scarf thingy.
Something about EJ standing around looking stuffy and uncomfortable in Sarlena's penthouse while Safe is all cuddly makes me hate EJ. I had no pity for him today. I actually felt bad for Stefano again...how does that keep happening? LOL!
EJ deserves his little pathetic interloper role when he is blind to what Steffie is telling him. Then he runs off and cowers to Rafe and his FBI stuff?
Again, if EJ isn't the kidnapper, he is useless.
I thought the final scene with him gasping at the note meant that he isn't the Sydnapper...but then I was hoping that he and Anna were in cahoots, but the note proves that Anna went rogue and isn't following his plan. Maybe that is what it meant when the spoiler said that Anna reset her motive or whatever. Who knows.

Nathan reading the Christmas story was pretty dull until we had a Tom flashback. Great part.
Nice Christmas show!
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I saw Lindsay Hartley's daughter,Isabella,so cute in her pink robe.
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

Sindacco
Dec 25 2009, 10:51 PM
Vivian is without a doubt the one with the worst wardrobe and makeup on the show. Kate is close second.
Worse than Sami? No way! I still have nightmares about that furry brown jacket she had on in Cleveland. At least Vivian is supposed to look crazy. I really love her wild getups quite honestly.

Rhi, you have a good point about JKJ looking so young in bed with Mel. Of course, I am all for him being shirtless as much as possible.

OK about today's show...

I loved Vivian holding court and making everything awkward but a couple things confused me about the Kiriakis get-together.
1. When did Chloe and Daniel get engaged? Was this onscreen? Did we see her getting a ring? And does this mean she and Lucas are divorced or had their marriage annulled or something?
2. Had Vivian and Chloe met before? Wouldn't they have been at Salem at the same time a little bit? I mean I guess she'd have been a teen then so little reason to interact with Viv, but you'd think she'd know who Viv was based on how close she was to Phillip.
3. Why did Vivian refer to Brady as her nephew? Even if John had a relationship with Auntie Viv, has Brady ever had a relationship with her? I mean by the time Brady was of age hadn't John already been revealed to not actually be an Alamain.

:wub: :wub2: Kate/Stefano/Vivian/Victor :wub2: :wub:

God. The Safe scenes were AWFUL. Who is encouraging AS to be so OTT manic happy at moments where there's only a sliver of a chance that something positive happened for Sami in the progress of finding the Sydnapper? Cause whatever is going on it's just too much. Whether it's the writing or the directing or As's choices there, something needs to stop that already. Also, it's always amusing when I wind up watching Days with my Mom. Today she sits down with me and Safe are embracing when EJ was greeting Johnny (side note: :wub: EJohnny :wub: ) and she asks me if the guy Sami was hugging was her son. :lol: I started laughing and asked her how old she thought AS was and she says... "I don't know... 50?" :lol: :lol: :lol: She explained that guess was because she knows how "well-preserved" soap actresses are but it just cracked me up. Then again she always thought John looked so much younger that he should have been Marlena's son too. :lol: So I guess this proves Safe are the new Jarlena? :lol: :drunk:

"Even snakes have mothers..." :laugh: I love Stefano. And I don't know if its cause it's Christmas but the DiMera foyer looks extra purpley lately. Why did the set decorators think the DiMansion needed to resemble a brothel? Anyway, I'm so glad Stefano has Kate even if EJ has shut him out. Even if I know Stef deserves Ej's cold shoulder, I love him having some happiness in his life.

Glad that EJ bitched out Rafe when he came to Sami's and found out about the lead. Even if it was an overreaction, after what EJ overheard at the vigil he has every reason to bawl out that prick and be suspicious as hell of Sami and Rafe when it comes to keeping stuff about Sydney from him.

Brady and Arianna are obnoxious. The show has just had these two break up and make up so many times it's impossible for me to invest in them. Same deal with what they did with Phinie really. Except it's worse when Brady is in love with Nicole and I think Brady only seeks out Ari because Nicole won't sleep with him/doesn't have conjugal privileges.

Was the blonde boy in blue at the hospital EM's real-life son? Whoever it was he was really cute. And not just because he reminded me so much of my nephew. :P Also, I liked the Tom flashback but it could've been a lot longer for my liking.

Poor Phil. He's so gonna get his heart broken by Mel still having feelings for Nathan and Phil isn't going to support her nursing thing either so I really think Phelanie is doomed. Hopefully Phil can find some lady who loves him. Maybe Chloe after Danloe breaks up? Nicole once she's out of jail? Ari? I want Phil to have some happiness for once and not always be the rebound guy.

eta: The Sydnapping drama has me SO confused with EJ getting that letter at the end. So I guess he's not in it at all, but maybe he'll do something shady down the line? Also, how nice of Anna to get Syd that great Christmas dress so she can sit in the playpen in style for Jesus's b-day.
Edited by IMissAremid, Dec 26 2009, 12:41 AM.
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Best line of the whole show was Victor asking Phillip if he still has the wedding reservations from his engagement to that Johnson girl. Brilliant dialog today with Victor, Vivian, Stefano, Kate, Phillip, Daniel and Chloe. I just loved those scenes. Please keep them coming. Also I'm really into Nathan, Melanie, and Stephanie. This triangle has so much potential. I just don't care for Phillip being so crazy about Melanie.
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IMissAremid
Dec 26 2009, 12:36 AM
3. Why did Vivian refer to Brady as her nephew? Even if John had a relationship with Auntie Viv, has Brady ever had a relationship with her? I mean by the time Brady was of age hadn't John already been revealed to not actually be an Alamain.
No. Throughout the 90s, Vivian always considered John and Brady family. Anytime they were in a scene together, it was mentioned. Vivian would say something about her "nephew," John or her "great-nephew," Brady. By the time Brady was SORASed, Vivian was already gone
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After seeing the scene today between Nathan, Melanie and Stephanie, it's pretty obvious the show will be pushing Nathan/Melanie down the road. Still, I like the triangle. Can't say the word couple, you know. That's dead on this show.

I loved, LOVED Victor's line about the same reservation and Stefano's classic line "even snakes have mothers". And while Nathan hasn't been on the show long, he is a Horton and therefore should qualify for the Christmas story reading. I still think we need more Hortons, though.
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Dec 25 2009, 11:17 PM
Phil and Mel look to be about the same age when they are in bed, considering Phil looks like he's still 16 with that chest of his. It's like he has a grown up looking face with a teenage body.
Some guys pay a lot in waxing for a chest like that. :D
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IMissAremid
Dec 26 2009, 12:36 AM
Worse than Sami? No way! I still have nightmares about that furry brown jacket she had on in Cleveland. .
I agree. Sami's get-up yesterday with a heavy-ish scarf around her neck and a sweater cut down to her navel.....that was just awkward, a strange combination.
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the christmas show was so much better than the christmas eve show, thanks to viv, vic, stef, and kate. LOVED that fake grin stefano put on before he and kate walked into the living room. vivian is a hoot. if only she could air as often as sami and rafe do.
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Dec 26 2009, 12:36 AM
Sindacco
Dec 25 2009, 10:51 PM
Vivian is without a doubt the one with the worst wardrobe and makeup on the show. Kate is close second.
Worse than Sami? No way! I still have nightmares about that furry brown jacket she had on in Cleveland. At least Vivian is supposed to look crazy. I really love her wild getups quite honestly.
Sindacco - seriously? Kate has the best makeup on the show, IMO. I figured out that it wavers based on the lighting, which is sometimes inconsistent. Her hair though, is totally fried...it's not looking as good as it used to. The only problem with Kate's makeup is as Anna pointed out once: that she didn't recognize her without her "overdone eye makeup." LOL. I know she's a cougar or whatever, but that doesn't mean she has to look like she's hitting the club 24/7 (which I think her makeup implies...).

Viv's crazy get ups are LOL... I love it!

Sami has the worst look, overall. Her makeup looks nice, but never suits what shes wearing...it's all mismatched. And they dress Ali Sweeney HORRIBLY. There's no reason she has to look as bad as she does.
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AS was really badly costumed on Friday's show. With that red and green workout clothes ensemble she looked like an overly-cleavaged elf and that scarf was too short to be wrapped around her neck the way it was. The ends were right at her boobs and she seemed uncomfortable because she kept grabbing the ends and pulling them together over her chest.

I actually think Kate's hair looks better now than it has for a couple of years, though I hate the blue streak. I hate when she has it too long and puffy with the flipped up ends; she looks super matronly with her hair like that. I loathe her Pirate-Buys-Out-Claire's-Accessories costuming and the makeup is definitely overdone, so I tend to think her hair is the least of her problems. Except, again, for the blue streak.

I think it's kind of funny that Philip and Melanie both barely have any more delight over their engagement than I do. Philip seems to have railroaded Melanie into it, and I see the writers have used this golden opportunity to glitterize Melanie some more by making her suddenly just wanting to help humanity as a nurse. I seem to recall when she came to town nabbing Philip would have been the culmination of all her teenage life's dreams. Now, I am not opposed to people growing and changing and I welcome maturation of every character, but WTF? When did the idea of being a very wealthy woman with no obligation to hold a job become semi-offensive to her? Also, those Precious-Moments-figurine-eyes and pouting lower lip she was aiming at Stephanie and Nathan made no sense to me. She HAD Nathan and lost him, at least for now, because she has no backbone when it comes to Philip. And she's "suffering" by getting engaged to the man who she's supposedly lusted after and wanted since she came to town? This triangle or quad or whatever it is is so unwatchable to me.

I'm also quite over everyone being a bitch to Chloe, even though Vivian was fun as usual. The problem is Chloe just sits back and takes it. If they would write her as a real conniving vixen who could dish it out instead of just passively taking it I wouldn't mind people making cutting remarks to her, but as it is it just feels like shooting fish in a barrel.

EJ did seem somewhat surprised by the note but I can think of reasons for that that would not rule out him being involved, namely that Anna is pulling a double-cross. I have no idea whether the writers are going this way or not, but I could see EJ convincing Anna to help him out to get revenge on Stefano but Anna deciding once she has Sydney that now she's in charge and she's going to demand cash. I really hope EJ is behind this or there's no hope for his character--hours after he heard Sami wistfully telling Rafe how marvelously perfect their life would have been if they had been able to raise Sydney without EJ he's, if not exactly defending her wholeheartedly to Stefano, at least telling Stefano that Sami lied about their child because of her hatred/fear of Stefano? What a fucking pussy he is if he has nothing to do with this scheme or doesn't get involved in keeping Sydney from Safe in the future.
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Dec 26 2009, 10:46 PM
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Dec 26 2009, 12:36 AM
Sindacco
Dec 25 2009, 10:51 PM
Vivian is without a doubt the one with the worst wardrobe and makeup on the show. Kate is close second.
Worse than Sami? No way! I still have nightmares about that furry brown jacket she had on in Cleveland. At least Vivian is supposed to look crazy. I really love her wild getups quite honestly.
Sindacco - seriously? Kate has the best makeup on the show, IMO. I figured out that it wavers based on the lighting, which is sometimes inconsistent. Her hair though, is totally fried...it's not looking as good as it used to. The only problem with Kate's makeup is as Anna pointed out once: that she didn't recognize her without her "overdone eye makeup." LOL. I know she's a cougar or whatever, but that doesn't mean she has to look like she's hitting the club 24/7 (which I think her makeup implies...).

Viv's crazy get ups are LOL... I love it!

Sami has the worst look, overall. Her makeup looks nice, but never suits what shes wearing...it's all mismatched. And they dress Ali Sweeney HORRIBLY. There's no reason she has to look as bad as she does.
I'm really scared now. I always see comments about the characters hair and and wardrobe, usually negative, but Vivian and Kate's are the ones you like? You're crazy, LOL.

1. Vivian, Kate and Sami all have bad hair.
2. Vivian, Kate, Sami (and sometimes Chloe) always have ugly nail polish.
3. Their wardrobes are hideous. Seriously, Kate used to dress in sexy and mature business suits for women and now she either dress in something for teenagers or in business suits for men. Looks ridicules.

Overall Lexie and Stephanie are the best looking women. They always dress nice, have good hair and never overdo the make up. I would also say Arianna but sometimes she has to much makeup in her face.

Edited by Sindacco, Dec 27 2009, 07:46 AM.
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LOL but Kate's pretty up on the fashion - well, depends if you're looped into that sort of thing, might just be me.
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I just have to say - Sami is dressed HORRIBLY once again in the Christmas episode! What's with the too-short scarf and too-tight t-shirts? Maybe DAYS needs to invest in some sizes other than extra small...
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This Philip/Melanie engagement is HILARIOUS! :lol: At first I didn't know whether to be disgusted or indifferent but this story line has gotten so bad it's good. Philip doesn't love Melanie. He wants to have sex with her, he may even be attracted to her but he doesn't love her. Melanie is so infatuated she can't think straight. This rushed marriage is so ridiculous I can't help but laugh. :biggrin: I liked Melanie/Nathan but knew they wouldn't last because Melanie wanted Philip. Now she has Philip but is still torn. Make up your mind! :shrug: :soapbox: Then there's Stephanie who is a little more consistent but is a backstabbing bitch. She wanted Nathan when he was still with Mel yet tried to be friends with Mel while subtly making moves on Nathan. Sneaky Steph ^o) Even though this story line sucks balls I'm looking forward to the wedding if nothing else to see if it actually happens. It'll be interesting to see what happens when :shithitfan:

I could care less about Sami/Rafe/EJ at this point. I just want them off my screen. They all bore and annoy me with between Sami's whining, EJ's outbursts and Rafe budding in a little too much. :blah: I enjoy all three actors but this reminds me too much of Passions when Luis and Sheridan were searching for their son. The parallels between Rafe Hernandez and Luis Lopez-Fitzgerald are too much. :hmmph:

The teens were OK. I'm ready for the rivalry between Mia and Gabi and especially for the NuWill though I didn't mind the old one much. I'm just tired of Mia's pity party and stringing Will and Chad along. Maybe it's the actress but she's getting on my nerves.

The scenes at the Kiriakis mansion with Daniel, Chloe, Vivian, Brady and Victor and between Kate and Stefano were great. :D

Brady/Arianna still have that chemistry as Ethan/Theresa I just don't like their story line.
Edited by ScorpioQueen, Dec 28 2009, 04:14 AM.
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Dec 27 2009, 03:25 PM
LOL but Kate's pretty up on the fashion - well, depends if you're looped into that sort of thing, might just be me.
But you know, just because it's declared "fashion" doesn't mean it's palatable to everyone. Remember polyester? Wait, I guess you probably don't. :P
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

I finally got around to watching the Christmas day episode...and I loved, loved, loved the scenes at the Kiriakis shin dig, particularly after Stefano and Kate arrived. That cheesy grin Joe M plastered on his face before walking in to the fire had me laughing out loud. :lol: Vivian and her over the top 'embarrassment' at her 'gaffe' with Chloe was entertaining, as well. :)

Is anyone else getting the impression that the only reason Philip proposed to Melanie was to see what kind of rise he could get out of his family? It didn't occur to me until he showed up to make his grand announcement at the mansion - but it definitely felt that way as he watched and waited for the reactions from Victor and Kate, in particular.

I enjoyed the scenes at the hospital. It was super easy to pick out Eric Martsolf's twins - they are cutie patooties. :wub: I thought Nathan did a nice job with reading the Christmas story - and the flash back with Maggie remembering Tom was nicely done.

I loved the exchange between EJ and Stefano. It's been a long time coming to see EJ finally man up and put his father in his place - but at the same time I couldn't help but feel some sympathy for Stefano. I'm glad he has Kate right now. I also liked EJ immediately jumping Rafe's shit about not clueing him in that there was potential news about Sydney. After hearing Sami and Rafe's bullshit at the vigil I hope EJ keeps a close eye on those two - and I still wouldn't mind if he were working a few angles of his own. Anything is better than watching him play patsy to them once again. LOVED Johnny - that kid is just too cute for words! When he was building the castle with Sami and correcting her - starting his sentence with "Actually..." I had the biggest grin on my face. I really hope they have no intention of sorasing those twins any time soon - I want those little guys on the show for a long, long time.
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