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SOD Confirms: Bryan Dattilo Out; Update: No exit story at all, will last air in Feb.
Topic Started: Dec 21 2009, 02:01 PM (8,875 Views)
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I wouldn't care if she left. I do think that it would upset many other people though.
It wouldn't bother me all that much either now with the way Sami is being written.
And I think that is leading her on the road right out of A-storylineville.
I wouldn't mind that but I doubt it. To me, the show has established it's natural order of things just like the JER/Langan duo in the 90's.

Rafe/Sami/EJ/Nicole/Brady/Arianna is this show's driving force. They are going to milk that just like JER/Langan milked John/Marlena/Roman/Kristen/Stefano etc for all those years.

I would be shocked if we saw any one of these characters see any sort of reduction in airtime or presence.
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Another thought re AS and BD and AS's magic pull: It's often been speculated that one of the reasons BD lasted as long as he did was because AS kept fighting to keep him on. Does this mean she doesn't have the clout she used to, or that she didn't fight anymore?
Yeah, I'm kind of sullied towards her.
I sure hope Bryan can find other work. He has a disabled son. I think it was a really disservice not to utilize him somehow in the whole Theo autism storyline or tap into his experiences somehow.
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There are many women who identify with Sami and admire Ali.
I'm not being sarcastic at all when I say I honestly can't imagine why. The character is uneducated, unemployed, has a passel of kids she doesn't pay attention to unless forced to and doesn't really do anything interesting at all any more. I don't see her as a role model in the slightest, not to mention which she has the fugliest hair on the planet. The uneducated, unemployed, neglectful mother stuff wouldn't bother me on a character who was supposed to be a loser or at least a villainess, but Sami isn't that anymore. I'm supposed to apparently be admiring her heroism and wonderfulness even though I see not one thing about her that would make me admire her. When I'm looking for role models, people like Sami Brady don't come to mind.
I don't think people aspire to be like Sami or think of her as a heroine. Sami reflects more of your everyday woman, in her looks and body type. Ali is a working mom with an everyday husband, her experiences are just like many moms, pushing strollers and playing Candyland.
Somehow, I just don't see someone like Ali as "everywoman". She might work two jobs, but I'm thinking her lifestyle is probably a little bit better than the average middle class woman's. I don't look to her for inspiration. I might look to the woman on The Biggest Loser, who have a lot of weight to lose, with a limited budget, yeah. Or the single mom who still manages to send her child to college by instilling good values in him. Or the social worker who devotes her life to making children's lives better.
Ali has had a good steady, well paying job since she was a teenager. She hasn't even been out of acting jobs like many other actors who struggle and hold other jobs to make ends meet until their ships come in. I don't know what bumps she has had in life besides the goads about her weight in her younger years, but from what most people see, she has it pretty well.
She might not appeal to those people you are talking about but from the tweets, blogs and appearances I've seen Ali do she talks about everyday stuff about being a working mom, wife and daughter. A person doesn't have to walk on fire to become admired. Can people find better role models? Sure. Mother Theresa is a better source of inspiration. But we are talking about the world of tv, escapism, entertainment.
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Mother Theresa is a better source of inspiration.
I think Christopher Hitchens might disagree.

I don't see either Alison or Sami as representative of the average woman--Alison because of her advantages and Sami because of her lack of, well, everything I might admire in a person.
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Dec 21 2009, 05:21 PM

My point is the show has put alot on her shoulders. She is involved in two popular pairings and has been involved in one A story after another since she joined in 1993. She has had only two brief periods off the frontburner. Otherwise, she's always been on the frontburner and has had dominant screentime over the past 3 years. You take her out of the equation and what happens? The EJ/Sami fanbase is gone. The Rafe/Sami fanbase is gone. Will has no mother. The show loses a lead actress. The show's A story comes tumbling down. I could go on and on but it should be obvious that her leaving would be on par with DH leaving Days in the 90's at the height of the J&M story.
So what if those fan bases are gone? You keep saying that fan bases on message boards dont make or break the ratings, and I agree with that. But it goes for ALL fan bases, EJami and Safe aren't those keeping the show alive. Frankly, I think it's ridiculus to even talk about them considering Rafe has only been on the show for one year and like his paring with Sami is some force to be reckoned with.

And you can't compare her with J&M in the 90s. Different times, back then fan bases could affect the ratings. But I think those kind of viewers tuned out back in 2005-early 2007 and never came back. Some just watched youtube others quit all together.
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I don't think Ali fought for him this time. She has her buddy Galen there now. :(
But regardless of whether she fought for him or not, whether she has that kind of power or not, the writers didn't want to write for him, they wanted to make it a Safe/Ejami triangle. They will lose a lot of Lucas/Lumi fans over this ... I can't say whether it will dramatically impact the ratings, since a good chunk of Lumi fans quit the show a long time ago. The loss of J&M and S&K were counteracted by bringing in faves from the past and other soaps. If they plan on countering the loss of Bryan with the return of someone else, the ratings might not blip ... but in the long run .... I think they might feel it.

To answer the question about Ali leaving ... as a Lumi fan first ... if Ali had been let go, say, 3 or 4 years ago... and Bryan stayed, I might have stopped watching, or only watched periodically while campaigning for her return. If she left today, and Bryan stayed, I would stay. Ali doesn't play Sami Brady anymore ... I don't know who this character is, and she isn't worth staying for when all of my past favorites have been treated so shittily. As a fan of Days whose favorite couples are ALL gone, and favorite actors have ALL been shit on by this show. I say FUCK 'EM.
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Most of Bryan's time on the show has involved Sami in one way or another. TPTB have made Sami the main female character and I don't think they saw Lucas as being a leading man in the show's main storyline. They obviously see Rafe and EJ as being more suited to that role. As soon as Sami became the "star of the show" it pretty much ended any chance of a Lumi reunion. In a way, Alison got a promotion to the big leagues and Bryan didn't.
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I'm saddenned that this destroys the strongest remaining connection to Sami's pre-glitterized, pre-Marlenafied period. Even in the handful of scenes they shared this year, Sami was noticeably more "real" and less full of herself. Whatever one's views on Lumi in a romantic sense, their relationship in its different forms is a big part of what made her a fun and unique character to begin with.

I can already picture the show's final scene in a couple of years...Sami joining hands with Rafe/EJ/Random-cardboard-hunk-Tomlin-hires-next to bless her 12 children while everyone in the room sings "Kumbayah". Fucking shoot me now.
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I will never buy AS as the shows lead actress. I don't care if they write her as a scheming villainess, romantic lead, supervagina to the rescue, etc. I won't buy that she is the center that's supposed to hold the show together.
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I don't think people aspire to be like Sami or think of her as a heroine. Sami reflects more of your everyday woman, in her looks and body type. Ali is a working mom with an everyday husband, her experiences are just like many moms, pushing strollers and playing Candyland.
Somehow, I just don't see someone like Ali as "everywoman". She might work two jobs, but I'm thinking her lifestyle is probably a little bit better than the average middle class woman's. I don't look to her for inspiration. I might look to the woman on The Biggest Loser, who have a lot of weight to lose, with a limited budget, yeah. Or the single mom who still manages to send her child to college by instilling good values in him. Or the social worker who devotes her life to making children's lives better.
Ali has had a good steady, well paying job since she was a teenager. She hasn't even been out of acting jobs like many other actors who struggle and hold other jobs to make ends meet until their ships come in. I don't know what bumps she has had in life besides the goads about her weight in her younger years, but from what most people see, she has it pretty well.
She might not appeal to those people you are talking about but from the tweets, blogs and appearances I've seen Ali do she talks about everyday stuff about being a working mom, wife and daughter. A person doesn't have to walk on fire to become admired. Can people find better role models? Sure. Mother Theresa is a better source of inspiration. But we are talking about the world of tv, escapism, entertainment.
The people I mentioned are the ones I feel should be admired the most. Escapism, yeah. Holding her up as a role model? Pretty unrealistic, I would say.
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Dec 21 2009, 06:04 PM
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Mother Theresa is a better source of inspiration.
I think Christopher Hitchens might disagree.

I don't see either Alison or Sami as representative of the average woman--Alison because of her advantages and Sami because of her lack of, well, everything I might admire in a person.
:rockon: Thank you.
Although I will admit to being a Mother Teresa fan. :P
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Somehow, I just don't see someone like Ali as "everywoman". She might work two jobs, but I'm thinking her lifestyle is probably a little bit better than the average middle class woman's. I don't look to her for inspiration. I might look to the woman on The Biggest Loser, who have a lot of weight to lose, with a limited budget, yeah. Or the single mom who still manages to send her child to college by instilling good values in him. Or the social worker who devotes her life to making children's lives better.
Ali has had a good steady, well paying job since she was a teenager. She hasn't even been out of acting jobs like many other actors who struggle and hold other jobs to make ends meet until their ships come in. I don't know what bumps she has had in life besides the goads about her weight in her younger years, but from what most people see, she has it pretty well.
She might not appeal to those people you are talking about but from the tweets, blogs and appearances I've seen Ali do she talks about everyday stuff about being a working mom, wife and daughter. A person doesn't have to walk on fire to become admired. Can people find better role models? Sure. Mother Theresa is a better source of inspiration. But we are talking about the world of tv, escapism, entertainment.
The people I mentioned are the ones I feel should be admired the most. Escapism, yeah. Holding her up as a role model? Pretty unrealistic, I would say.
Let the record be shown that Paxton and Ladyofthelake do not admire, see a role model, consider Sami/Ali an everyday woman, inspirational , etc, etc, etc., etc.
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Dec 21 2009, 06:24 PM
I'm saddenned that this destroys the strongest remaining connection to Sami's pre-glitterized, pre-Marlenafied period. Even in the handful of scenes they shared this year, Sami was noticeably more "real" and less full of herself. Whatever one's views on Lumi in a romantic sense, their relationship in its different forms is a big part of what made her a fun and unique character to begin with.

I can already picture the show's final scene in a couple of years...Sami joining hands with Rafe/EJ/Random-cardboard-hunk-Tomlin-hires-next to bless her 12 children while everyone in the room sings "Kumbayah". Fucking shoot me now.
I will miss this, too. There was a great friendship bond to Lucas and Sami. If nothing else, Lucas was one that could call Sami on her shit, and still be there for her. Course, now that the shit is glitterfied and comes out in rainbows..............
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She might not appeal to those people you are talking about but from the tweets, blogs and appearances I've seen Ali do she talks about everyday stuff about being a working mom, wife and daughter. A person doesn't have to walk on fire to become admired. Can people find better role models? Sure. Mother Theresa is a better source of inspiration. But we are talking about the world of tv, escapism, entertainment.
The people I mentioned are the ones I feel should be admired the most. Escapism, yeah. Holding her up as a role model? Pretty unrealistic, I would say.
Let the record be shown that Paxton and Ladyofthelake do not admire, see a role model, consider Sami/Ali an everyday woman, inspirational , etc, etc, etc., etc.
wow. I don't think you get the point. I don't think Ali is a role model. ;) We will agree to disagree, and it's OK to let us disagree.
BACK to Bryan................
OLTL fans, tell me about this role that is suggested for him. I've only been watching a couple of years, so I don't know about this character. Kevin's brother? The only thing is, he might be hesitant about uprooting his son, but I guess for a job, he will. I don't watch enough of the other soaps to know how he would fit.
There's always primetime and cable, of course.
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I'm saddened that this destroys the strongest remaining connection to Sami's pre-glitterized, pre-Marlenafied period. Even in the handful of scenes they shared this year, Sami was noticeably more "real" and less full of herself. Whatever one's views on Lumi in a romantic sense, their relationship in its different forms is a big part of what made her a fun and unique character to begin with.

I can already picture the show's final scene in a couple of years...Sami joining hands with Rafe/EJ/Random-cardboard-hunk-Tomlin-hires-next to bless her 12 children while everyone in the room sings "Kumbayah". Fucking shoot me now.
It's sad that I could actually see Sami being the octomom of Salem..... :shame:
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The people I mentioned are the ones I feel should be admired the most. Escapism, yeah. Holding her up as a role model? Pretty unrealistic, I would say.
Let the record be shown that Paxton and Ladyofthelake do not admire, see a role model, consider Sami/Ali an everyday woman, inspirational , etc, etc, etc., etc.
wow. I don't think you get the point. I don't think Ali is a role model. ;) We will agree to disagree, and it's OK to let us disagree.
If your point is that Ali is NOT a role model, then yes I got your point. I meant "do not admire, do not see a role model, do not consider Sami/Ali as an everyday woman, do not see her as inspirational, etc, etc, etc."

I'm happy to let you disagree.
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Let the record be shown that Paxton and Ladyofthelake do not admire, see a role model, consider Sami/Ali an everyday woman, inspirational , etc, etc, etc., etc.
wow. I don't think you get the point. I don't think Ali is a role model. ;) We will agree to disagree, and it's OK to let us disagree.
If your point is that Ali is NOT a role model, then yes I got your point. I meant "do not admire, do not see a role model, do not consider Sami/Ali as an everyday woman, do not see her as inspirational, etc, etc, etc."

I'm happy to let you disagree.
The smiley face indicates joke. Oh, well. I see it's a serious issue for you, so I'm going to drop it, although I'm not changing my mind.

Bryan Datillo, for all his jokes and sarcasm, is someone I admire because of the way he works with his son, who is autistic. Single dad, in and out of that job (yes, he could have left a long time ago, but when a job you've been at keeps waving promises at you, I doubt anyone would just bail), and dealing with the issues and difficulties that can come with having a child within the austism spectrum....there is someone to admire. As a teacher, I know it's not easy.
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I'm saddened that this destroys the strongest remaining connection to Sami's pre-glitterized, pre-Marlenafied period. Even in the handful of scenes they shared this year, Sami was noticeably more "real" and less full of herself. Whatever one's views on Lumi in a romantic sense, their relationship in its different forms is a big part of what made her a fun and unique character to begin with.

I can already picture the show's final scene in a couple of years...Sami joining hands with Rafe/EJ/Random-cardboard-hunk-Tomlin-hires-next to bless her 12 children while everyone in the room sings "Kumbayah". Fucking shoot me now.
It's sad that I could actually see Sami being the octomom of Salem..... :shame:
I suddenly have visions of that damn octopus mom on those room deoderizer commercials. Airwick, is it?
"My kids come and go and get kidnapped and run off to Switzerland (when I know which ones are my kids), but my house smells fresh and clean, thanks to Airwick!"
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I won't say too much about the acting. AS has always been hit or miss so my expectations are never the same for her like they were for Dee. Dee did seem to fall on bad habits and fall off a bit but I always knew she was a great actress and had hope it would return at times and it did. I don't think people are sick of AS because of her acting. I think people just don't buy her as a heroine and don't like her amount of airtime. I mean, she never gets a break. Even during her maternity leave, she was gone all of 10 seconds LOL.
For me, the biggest reason I am sick of Sami IS Ali's acting. I am not impressed. When they pair her with a guy like Galen (who is an even worse actor IMO) it makes it really hard to watch. Part of the problem is the way she is being written too though. I just do not even care about the character any more.
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