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SOD Confirms: Bryan Dattilo Out; Update: No exit story at all, will last air in Feb.
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Topic Started: Dec 21 2009, 02:01 PM (8,874 Views)
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Dec 21 2009, 06:49 PM
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- Dec 21 2009, 06:24 PM
I'm saddenned that this destroys the strongest remaining connection to Sami's pre-glitterized, pre-Marlenafied period. Even in the handful of scenes they shared this year, Sami was noticeably more "real" and less full of herself. Whatever one's views on Lumi in a romantic sense, their relationship in its different forms is a big part of what made her a fun and unique character to begin with.
I can already picture the show's final scene in a couple of years...Sami joining hands with Rafe/EJ/Random-cardboard-hunk-Tomlin-hires-next to bless her 12 children while everyone in the room sings "Kumbayah". Fucking shoot me now. :cheers:
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Dec 21 2009, 06:50 PM
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Another thought re AS and BD and AS's magic pull: It's often been speculated that one of the reasons BD lasted as long as he did was because AS kept fighting to keep him on. Does this mean she doesn't have the clout she used to, or that she didn't fight anymore? Yeah, I'm kind of sullied towards her. I sure hope Bryan can find other work. He has a disabled son. I think it was a really disservice not to utilize him somehow in the whole Theo autism storyline or tap into his experiences somehow. I honestly think Bryan wanted to go. I think Ali would have fought for him but Bryan probably didn't want to stay on since the last time he got saved it led to yet another story in the Lucas/Chloe/Dan stuff that made his character look horrible. His recent interview in SOD where he was brutally honest makes alot of sense now. I think he knows the show has no interest in him and doesn't just want to remain because the fans or Ali pushed for it.
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Dec 21 2009, 06:52 PM
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wow. I don't think you get the point. I don't think Ali is a role model. ;) We will agree to disagree, and it's OK to let us disagree.
If your point is that Ali is NOT a role model, then yes I got your point. I meant " do not admire, do not see a role model, do not consider Sami/Ali as an everyday woman, do not see her as inspirational, etc, etc, etc." I'm happy to let you disagree.
The smiley face indicates joke. Oh, well. I see it's a serious issue for you, so I'm going to drop it, although I'm not changing my mind. That's mighty big of you. Thanks.
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Dec 21 2009, 06:52 PM
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Another thought re AS and BD and AS's magic pull: It's often been speculated that one of the reasons BD lasted as long as he did was because AS kept fighting to keep him on. Does this mean she doesn't have the clout she used to, or that she didn't fight anymore? Yeah, I'm kind of sullied towards her. I sure hope Bryan can find other work. He has a disabled son. I think it was a really disservice not to utilize him somehow in the whole Theo autism storyline or tap into his experiences somehow.
I honestly think Bryan wanted to go. I think Ali would have fought for him but Bryan probably didn't want to stay on since the last time he got saved it led to yet another story in the Lucas/Chloe/Dan stuff that made his character look horrible. His recent interview in SOD where he was brutally honest makes alot of sense now. I think he knows the show has no interest in him and doesn't just want to remain because the fans or Ali pushed for it. I guess it's been something on his mind for a while, and he probably was thinking "If they treat me like crap this time, that's it". Who knows? He did seem pretty bitter.
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Dec 21 2009, 06:53 PM
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If your point is that Ali is NOT a role model, then yes I got your point. I meant " do not admire, do not see a role model, do not consider Sami/Ali as an everyday woman, do not see her as inspirational, etc, etc, etc." I'm happy to let you disagree.
The smiley face indicates joke. Oh, well. I see it's a serious issue for you, so I'm going to drop it, although I'm not changing my mind.
That's mighty big of you. Thanks. Anytime! :wave:
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Dec 21 2009, 06:53 PM
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My point is the show has put alot on her shoulders. She is involved in two popular pairings and has been involved in one A story after another since she joined in 1993. She has had only two brief periods off the frontburner. Otherwise, she's always been on the frontburner and has had dominant screentime over the past 3 years. You take her out of the equation and what happens? The EJ/Sami fanbase is gone. The Rafe/Sami fanbase is gone. Will has no mother. The show loses a lead actress. The show's A story comes tumbling down. I could go on and on but it should be obvious that her leaving would be on par with DH leaving Days in the 90's at the height of the J&M story.
So what if those fan bases are gone? You keep saying that fan bases on message boards dont make or break the ratings, and I agree with that. But it goes for ALL fan bases, EJami and Safe aren't those keeping the show alive. Frankly, I think it's ridiculus to even talk about them considering Rafe has only been on the show for one year and like his paring with Sami is some force to be reckoned with. And you can't compare her with J&M in the 90s. Different times, back then fan bases could affect the ratings. But I think those kind of viewers tuned out back in 2005-early 2007 and never came back. Some just watched youtube others quit all together. Let me clarify...in my post I was referring more or less to the story ramifications, not the fanbases. It just leaves a major hole. Sure, some will say just get rid of Rafe and his family and move EJ forward but it isn't that easy. My comparison of AS now to what DH was in the 90's has nothing to do with fanbases and everything to do with position in story. The show was so heavily focused on Marlena that her leaving at that point would've resulted in a huge mess. I feel the same about Sami. That may not be the same way further down the road but, right now, it would leave a mess story-wise and canvas-wise.
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Dec 21 2009, 06:55 PM
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Another thought re AS and BD and AS's magic pull: It's often been speculated that one of the reasons BD lasted as long as he did was because AS kept fighting to keep him on. Does this mean she doesn't have the clout she used to, or that she didn't fight anymore? Yeah, I'm kind of sullied towards her. I sure hope Bryan can find other work. He has a disabled son. I think it was a really disservice not to utilize him somehow in the whole Theo autism storyline or tap into his experiences somehow.
I honestly think Bryan wanted to go. I think Ali would have fought for him but Bryan probably didn't want to stay on since the last time he got saved it led to yet another story in the Lucas/Chloe/Dan stuff that made his character look horrible. His recent interview in SOD where he was brutally honest makes alot of sense now. I think he knows the show has no interest in him and doesn't just want to remain because the fans or Ali pushed for it.
I guess it's been something on his mind for a while, and he probably was thinking "If they treat me like crap this time, that's it". Who knows? He did seem pretty bitter. And he had a right to be and I thought the way he handled it was as good as one can expect.
I don't think he would've said what he said otherwise. I think he had a feeling what was going to happen and did not want it stopped. He just wanted it to end because he knew even if he stayed, nothing would change.
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Dec 21 2009, 07:03 PM
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Another thought re AS and BD and AS's magic pull: It's often been speculated that one of the reasons BD lasted as long as he did was because AS kept fighting to keep him on. Does this mean she doesn't have the clout she used to, or that she didn't fight anymore? Yeah, I'm kind of sullied towards her. I sure hope Bryan can find other work. He has a disabled son. I think it was a really disservice not to utilize him somehow in the whole Theo autism storyline or tap into his experiences somehow.
I honestly think Bryan wanted to go. I think Ali would have fought for him but Bryan probably didn't want to stay on since the last time he got saved it led to yet another story in the Lucas/Chloe/Dan stuff that made his character look horrible. His recent interview in SOD where he was brutally honest makes alot of sense now. I think he knows the show has no interest in him and doesn't just want to remain because the fans or Ali pushed for it.
I guess it's been something on his mind for a while, and he probably was thinking "If they treat me like crap this time, that's it". Who knows? He did seem pretty bitter.
And he had a right to be and I thought the way he handled it was as good as one can expect. I don't think he would've said what he said otherwise. I think he had a feeling what was going to happen and did not want it stopped. He just wanted it to end because he knew even if he stayed, nothing would change. Yeah. I'd be pretty bitter, too. I think there are probably more of us than we know who have given years to an employer, only to be unceremoniously unsurped by other ideas or some such rot. I think you know what I mean.
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Dec 21 2009, 07:23 PM
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OMG....some of you have just the funniest lines! Airwick!!!LOL
My whole problem with AS is ACTING! This is a soap, but its also an acting medium. In this town (yes, LA LA Land) an actor would kill for any soap job. When I read that she "twitters" her lines and IMO sucks ASS and hasnt grown as an actor, then I find it very disappointing as a viewer who loves good acting in any medium!
As for her as a role model....she can be a role model of being a good businesswoman. She knows how to "market" herself...ALA Kelly Ripka. If people see her as this regular working mom, that pushes the stroller, well, I saw her stroller, and it was pushed by HER NANNY!
As for BD, I never was a fan of the character, but he was a funny guy. I just cant believe that we'll probably get one of those "off to rehab in Switzerland" scene again, when they could have written a decent SL. I do hope he finds work and wish him good luck!
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Dec 21 2009, 07:29 PM
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SOD confirms...
http://www.soapoperadigest.com/news/breaking/
DAYS’s Bryan R. Dattilo Out Bryan R. Dattilo (Lucas), who joined the show in 1993, is out. Before DAYS took its holiday hiatus, Dattilo was informed that the show would not be picking up his next cycle. "He has taped his last episode," confirms his manager. His contract officially expires in February, 2010.
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Dec 21 2009, 07:37 PM
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I'm bitter. I'm sad. I'm angry. Its not just that it's Bryan, Lucas, Lumi. Bryan/Ali/Lumi was all I had left on this show ... all my other favorites are gone ... now without Bry ... I just don't feel like investing in any characters or couples ever again, on this or any other show.
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Dec 21 2009, 07:39 PM
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wow. I don't think you get the point. I don't think Ali is a role model. We will agree to disagree, and it's OK to let us disagree.
I disagree with you as well, I've grown up with Sami on my screen I think we are meant to be the exact same age oddly, and have always found her to be extra-ordinarily relatable and Ali to be a fantastic role model, I have ever marvelled at her growing skills as an actress and certainly feel a kinship with the character she has worked hard to develop all these years, I won't even go into the role model in terms of weight issues and all the negative attention she used to get as a result of it, but I will say what I like about her is the same as what I am rooting for in BD, these people, were at some point or are now underdogs and I always wish the underdog the best of luck as I have frequently been one myself.
On direct topic I agree with those who stated that BD has been used as a prop for years, but conversely I agree with those who were irritated by his incessant yelling=acting moments. I won't go as far as to say I think him a bad actor because I certainly don't veer in that direction, but to my mind he certainly isn't anywhere near as strong as JKJ, PR or JS, and with GG on the canvas I guess they really only need one pretty boy at a time. I am most upset for the Lumi fans however, as they have been waiting patiently for their ship to come in and have weathered every storm from the Austin/Sami retread {which I liked} the Brandon/Sami {which I loved} and the unstoppable Ejami {who are now being screwed in their own ship-specific way} so I feel bad for them most certainly. I can only hope they find a clever way to write him out ie coma or lost at sea that allows for a return if needed but does not have Lucas doing something he in fact would never do {ie leaving town} as he would never abandon Will and Ali if given a choice. I hope they do him a service in his exit, the Lumi fans {though we have had our differences} deserve at least that much.
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The wording of the SOD thing makes me worry it's a non-exit, Steve & Kayla style. Sounds like Bryan might have been informed that he'd taped his last show, which hardly suggests an exit story.
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Dec 21 2009, 07:44 PM
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My point is the show has put alot on her shoulders. She is involved in two popular pairings and has been involved in one A story after another since she joined in 1993. She has had only two brief periods off the frontburner. Otherwise, she's always been on the frontburner and has had dominant screentime over the past 3 years. You take her out of the equation and what happens? The EJ/Sami fanbase is gone. The Rafe/Sami fanbase is gone. Will has no mother. The show loses a lead actress. The show's A story comes tumbling down. I could go on and on but it should be obvious that her leaving would be on par with DH leaving Days in the 90's at the height of the J&M story.
So what if those fan bases are gone? You keep saying that fan bases on message boards dont make or break the ratings, and I agree with that. But it goes for ALL fan bases, EJami and Safe aren't those keeping the show alive. Frankly, I think it's ridiculus to even talk about them considering Rafe has only been on the show for one year and like his paring with Sami is some force to be reckoned with. And you can't compare her with J&M in the 90s. Different times, back then fan bases could affect the ratings. But I think those kind of viewers tuned out back in 2005-early 2007 and never came back. Some just watched youtube others quit all together.
Let me clarify...in my post I was referring more or less to the story ramifications, not the fanbases. It just leaves a major hole. Sure, some will say just get rid of Rafe and his family and move EJ forward but it isn't that easy. My comparison of AS now to what DH was in the 90's has nothing to do with fanbases and everything to do with position in story. The show was so heavily focused on Marlena that her leaving at that point would've resulted in a huge mess. I feel the same about Sami. That may not be the same way further down the road but, right now, it would leave a mess story-wise and canvas-wise. Okey, sorry. I thought you were talking about the fan base aspect.
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I'm bitter. I'm sad. I'm angry. Its not just that it's Bryan, Lucas, Lumi. Bryan/Ali/Lumi was all I had left on this show ... all my other favorites are gone ... now without Bry ... I just don't feel like investing in any characters or couples ever again, on this or any other show. Gosh Aimee, I think you're going to make me cry. I'm just thinking of those great Lucas moments and smilling. There's tons of stuff for Lucas s/l-wise, they just have to want to do it.
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Yeah, the way his manager told Second Chances was the same, like, this past week was his last and he is done. I don't know, I can't imagine what kind of exit they could have for him, so it seems like he will just be terminally out of town or in the next room like Mickey, Cassie, and so many others have been ...
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If people see her as this regular working mom, that pushes the stroller, well, I saw her stroller, and it was pushed by HER NANNY!
Thank you for verifying this. I wanted to mention it, but wasn't sure for absolutely certain (although I figured it was logical) that she had a nanny.
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I would prefer that he is written out quietly and just goes upstairs and doesn't come back down or something, GH has a habit of sending everyone out in body bags and let me tell you there is NOTHING more painful than watching your favourite character get brutally murdered for the sake of a "stupid event that changes nothing" better they give him a quiet exit with the chance to return someday.
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The wording of the SOD thing makes me worry it's a non-exit, Steve & Kayla style. Sounds like Bryan might have been informed that he'd taped his last show, which hardly suggests an exit story. Very good, but sad, point there.
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There isn't an actor on daytime that I consider to be a role model. They are just actors. Simple as that. AS hasn't done anything more spectacular than any other actor/actress out there. I have no problem with AS; I do, however, despise the character that she portrays. I think that Bryan Datillo got the short end of the stick. The writers never invested in his character unless he were involved with Sami in some form or fashion. Lucas has been a prop for years. It's really a pity that viewers never got the chance to see what he could do with a storyline independent of Sami. When they removed him from Sami's orbit, he simply became a prop for that ill-conceived Danloe pairing. TPTB had no interest in Lucas, period. I hate that BD had to leave the show in such a manner.
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