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SOW: Sami and EJ keep Rafe in the dark; January 12th issue; article summary
Topic Started: Dec 30 2009, 10:39 PM (7,686 Views)
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Manda1
Dec 30 2009, 11:33 PM
EJ puts the note in the drawer and leaves the room to take the call.....the note that says tell no-one and I am watching you...if he didn’t want Sami to snoop he should have taken it with him or he doesn’t know Sami at all.....

When he told her not to tell Rafe he kept on saying things like it will be on your head if you tell Rafe and the FBI are brought in and it all goes wrong.....a little mean don’t you think? Was it really necessary to add those comments unless he was manipulating Sami into feeling guilty and afraid that the whole successful return of Sydney will hinge on whether or not she tells Rafe...which we know is ridiculous....
Telling her those things wasn't tactful, but (if he's not behind this) he's scared out of his mind about anyone screwing this up. How many times did Hope tell Bo that not following the kidnapper's demands could hurt Ciara, and it would be on his head? Even to this day, Hope is still blames Bo to anyone who'll listen. That's what happens in a crisis.
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Dec 31 2009, 02:01 PM
Liz<3Days
Dec 31 2009, 01:17 PM
EJ (if the sydnapper) is playing Rafe. Sure Rafe is suspicious, but at this point, EJs not at the top of the suspect list. He's still trying to piece everything together. Surely the walls will be closing in on EJ and how strange Sami is acting around him is only going to add up to EJ.

As for Sami not being able to think for herself. Sami has always been myopic when it comes to her men. This is classic Sami. The new twist on it being that she loves Rafe, but EJ's playing on her love of Syd to counteract that love. EJ knows what buttons to push, because she's been his puppet before. Old Sami wouldnt of listened to EJ and been solely loyal to Rafe, but EJ using their daughter to go against what she feels she should do now.

This might be the case, but if it is JS and the writers are keeping it all very close to the vest. Why have EJ shocked when the note arrived and he read it alone? Why have Anna discussing whether anyone knows if the note she left has been received by the DiMeras if she's working with EJ?

I still have hope that EJ will end up being involved - but I'm not sure that he is just yet. Perhaps when the ransom exchange gets bungled he'll get a clue and then start manipulating things - but I just don't see it clearly yet. Of course, stranger things have happened with EJ. The VISA thing is a perfect example. JS even said he was playing that straight the entire way through and didn't find out until they had him film that last scene with Mr. Burke that EJ was manipulating it - so I suppose we might find something like that here. :shrug:

Either way...I fully intend to enjoy EJ being the mastermind for a change. ;)
But didn't EJ have his men following Nicole? And if he did, wouldn't they have seen who hit her over the head and snatched Sydney and followed that person? It would seem odd that all that has been forgotten. I wonder why, if EJ didn't want Sami to see the note or even know about it, why he stuck it in the drawer and didn't take it with him when he left the room to take that call. Knowing Sami, he knew darn well that she would go right for that drawer and read the note. VOILA-- the perfect opportunity to tell her not to tell anyone, especially Rafe.
I agree. I think that it may be a replay of ej and the VISA deal with him pulling everyone's chain for his own revenge.
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Dec 31 2009, 03:23 PM
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Dec 31 2009, 02:01 PM
Liz<3Days
Dec 31 2009, 01:17 PM
EJ (if the sydnapper) is playing Rafe. Sure Rafe is suspicious, but at this point, EJs not at the top of the suspect list. He's still trying to piece everything together. Surely the walls will be closing in on EJ and how strange Sami is acting around him is only going to add up to EJ.

As for Sami not being able to think for herself. Sami has always been myopic when it comes to her men. This is classic Sami. The new twist on it being that she loves Rafe, but EJ's playing on her love of Syd to counteract that love. EJ knows what buttons to push, because she's been his puppet before. Old Sami wouldnt of listened to EJ and been solely loyal to Rafe, but EJ using their daughter to go against what she feels she should do now.

This might be the case, but if it is JS and the writers are keeping it all very close to the vest. Why have EJ shocked when the note arrived and he read it alone? Why have Anna discussing whether anyone knows if the note she left has been received by the DiMeras if she's working with EJ?

I still have hope that EJ will end up being involved - but I'm not sure that he is just yet. Perhaps when the ransom exchange gets bungled he'll get a clue and then start manipulating things - but I just don't see it clearly yet. Of course, stranger things have happened with EJ. The VISA thing is a perfect example. JS even said he was playing that straight the entire way through and didn't find out until they had him film that last scene with Mr. Burke that EJ was manipulating it - so I suppose we might find something like that here. :shrug:

Either way...I fully intend to enjoy EJ being the mastermind for a change. ;)
But didn't EJ have his men following Nicole? And if he did, wouldn't they have seen who hit her over the head and snatched Sydney and followed that person? It would seem odd that all that has been forgotten. I wonder why, if EJ didn't want Sami to see the note or even know about it, why he stuck it in the drawer and didn't take it with him when he left the room to take that call. Knowing Sami, he knew darn well that she would go right for that drawer and read the note. VOILA-- the perfect opportunity to tell her not to tell anyone, especially Rafe.
I agree. I think that it may be a replay of ej and the VISA deal with him pulling everyone's chain for his own revenge.
I thought he had people looking for her, not following her. If they were following her, I'm sure they'd have taken her down immediately, not just watched her traipse around with the kidnapped baby.
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magicsteacher
Dec 31 2009, 03:23 PM
SocRMum1
Dec 31 2009, 02:01 PM
Liz<3Days
Dec 31 2009, 01:17 PM
EJ (if the sydnapper) is playing Rafe. Sure Rafe is suspicious, but at this point, EJs not at the top of the suspect list. He's still trying to piece everything together. Surely the walls will be closing in on EJ and how strange Sami is acting around him is only going to add up to EJ.

As for Sami not being able to think for herself. Sami has always been myopic when it comes to her men. This is classic Sami. The new twist on it being that she loves Rafe, but EJ's playing on her love of Syd to counteract that love. EJ knows what buttons to push, because she's been his puppet before. Old Sami wouldnt of listened to EJ and been solely loyal to Rafe, but EJ using their daughter to go against what she feels she should do now.

This might be the case, but if it is JS and the writers are keeping it all very close to the vest. Why have EJ shocked when the note arrived and he read it alone? Why have Anna discussing whether anyone knows if the note she left has been received by the DiMeras if she's working with EJ?

I still have hope that EJ will end up being involved - but I'm not sure that he is just yet. Perhaps when the ransom exchange gets bungled he'll get a clue and then start manipulating things - but I just don't see it clearly yet. Of course, stranger things have happened with EJ. The VISA thing is a perfect example. JS even said he was playing that straight the entire way through and didn't find out until they had him film that last scene with Mr. Burke that EJ was manipulating it - so I suppose we might find something like that here. :shrug:

Either way...I fully intend to enjoy EJ being the mastermind for a change. ;)
But didn't EJ have his men following Nicole? And if he did, wouldn't they have seen who hit her over the head and snatched Sydney and followed that person? It would seem odd that all that has been forgotten. I wonder why, if EJ didn't want Sami to see the note or even know about it, why he stuck it in the drawer and didn't take it with him when he left the room to take that call. Knowing Sami, he knew darn well that she would go right for that drawer and read the note. VOILA-- the perfect opportunity to tell her not to tell anyone, especially Rafe.
I agree. I think that it may be a replay of ej and the VISA deal with him pulling everyone's chain for his own revenge.
EJ didn't have people FOLLOWING her, as six said. They were looking for her.

And as for why EJ put the letter in the drawer so Sami had the opportunity to find it with the audience full well knowing Sami would probably find the letter... most likely it was just a stupid plot point. If EJ wanted Sami to see the letter so he could manipulate her why would he have gone to the trouble of putting the letter in the drawer in the first place? Why wouldn't he have just showed it to her right away?
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EJ acted "shocked" for the audience. TPTB want us to be guessing up until the last minute. Sure, he could also not be involved, but I think hes going to fuck with SAFE until AZ comes back from mat leave and remember the voice as Anna.

Anna may not know because maybe she gave it to one of EJs minions? Who knows? Point being, there's still a long of time before Syd's returned. TPTB wants us going back and forth whether EJ is/nt the sydnapper. I think this SL is going to be backburned a bit for the Maggie/ Phelony / Bope/Carly Sls, then they will come back to full swing once AZ is back.
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Also agree with the poster that said Rafe has shown no indication that he wants to take Sydney or Johnny away from EJ. He has told Sami that he wants to help her raise them. If they are together, and they are, then he should want to take a vital role in her children's lives


I guess I don't really care anymore who wants to be the daddy because the fact is, that as soon as Sami gets that kid in her mitts it's off to Carolines.
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mer4santo
Dec 31 2009, 07:41 PM
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Also agree with the poster that said Rafe has shown no indication that he wants to take Sydney or Johnny away from EJ. He has told Sami that he wants to help her raise them. If they are together, and they are, then he should want to take a vital role in her children's lives


I guess I don't really care anymore who wants to be the daddy because the fact is, that as soon as Sami gets that kid in her mitts it's off to Carolines.
That's exactly right. One small part of me doesn't want Sydnapping to be over, because as soon as she's in Sami's clutches, no more cute little baby. The kid will be SORASED, only to come out at Christmas and emotional times over the NEXT Sami baby.
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Thats why I'm on TEAM SYDOLE! Plenty of room here to jump on the bandwagon!LOL

If thats the one thing I want the most out of DAYS...its this!
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Dec 31 2009, 07:45 PM
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Dec 31 2009, 07:41 PM
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Also agree with the poster that said Rafe has shown no indication that he wants to take Sydney or Johnny away from EJ. He has told Sami that he wants to help her raise them. If they are together, and they are, then he should want to take a vital role in her children's lives


I guess I don't really care anymore who wants to be the daddy because the fact is, that as soon as Sami gets that kid in her mitts it's off to Carolines.
That's exactly right. One small part of me doesn't want Sydnapping to be over, because as soon as she's in Sami's clutches, no more cute little baby. The kid will be SORASED, only to come out at Christmas and emotional times over the NEXT Sami baby.
Truer words...... :hail:

If Sami is such an amazing mother where the hell are all of her kids? Just wondering.
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I'm on team Sydanna. They're so cute, and I want Anna to stay in Salem.
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Dec 31 2009, 12:55 AM
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Dec 31 2009, 12:12 AM
If EJ isnt behind this kidnapping them GG can shove it up his ass. He tries to hard to make his character the good guy. Its like he is scared the fans will not like him otherwise. insecure much? I hope EJ is behind this and is taking delight in torturing Safe. Pay back's a bitch and you dont cross a Dimera!
It doesn't matter whether he is behind the kidnapping or not, he is manipulating Sami. And if he's not behind the kidnapping, that makes him a bigger monster, that means he's using their own daughter's kidnapping against her. I don't hate this article, though the title is misconcieving, sounds like Rafe knows they are lying so he is not in the dark is he. I should hate this article, but I don't because it sounds like we will see another side of Rafe, and I have loved all we've seen so far... And it doesn't matter who hates Safe, others love them and they have one awards as a great soap opera couple for 2009.
I wouldn't talk about manipulation ( :applause: bravo Galen for using a new word) if I were Rafe. He manipulated Sami into not telling THE REAL FATHER about his child.
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Dec 31 2009, 08:16 PM
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Dec 31 2009, 07:45 PM
mer4santo
Dec 31 2009, 07:41 PM
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Also agree with the poster that said Rafe has shown no indication that he wants to take Sydney or Johnny away from EJ. He has told Sami that he wants to help her raise them. If they are together, and they are, then he should want to take a vital role in her children's lives


I guess I don't really care anymore who wants to be the daddy because the fact is, that as soon as Sami gets that kid in her mitts it's off to Carolines.
That's exactly right. One small part of me doesn't want Sydnapping to be over, because as soon as she's in Sami's clutches, no more cute little baby. The kid will be SORASED, only to come out at Christmas and emotional times over the NEXT Sami baby.
Truer words...... :hail:

If Sami is such an amazing mother where the hell are all of her kids? Just wondering.
Sami's kids are where all kids those ages ( with the exception of Will who I am sure will be getting more of a s/l soon with the new person) are on soaps. Kids those ages are too hard to work with day after day and keep focused so they go to day care, grandma's, etc. It's like that on all soaps, so to say that Sami isn't a good mother isn't really fair. Even if Nicole and Ej had Sydney, it would be the same way in awhile. The only reason they kept her in the limelight for so long, is b/c she was the focus of the s/l. Heck, we hardly see her much now except in the same shots in the play pen and in the same sleeper.
I will miss her, tho. She is a doll baby!!
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Dec 31 2009, 08:35 PM
I wouldn't talk about manipulation ( :applause: bravo Galen for using a new word)
Ouch.
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I think blaming EJ is a cop-out. He's isn't making Sami withhold the infomation. Ultimately she has to take responsiblity and accountability for her own decisions, actions and choices.

Otherwise you can probably say that every decision/choice a person makes is manipulated either by friends, family, government, media, etc.

If Sami's so mature, surely she's capable of being accountable for her decisions and wouldn't want ot be seen as a victim, incapable of determining her own mind?

She's deciding to keep this from Rafe of her own free will. She's making that choice. Not EJ.

It may feel like a bit of a Morton's Fork to her, as no-one would want to potentially jeopardise their child's safety or keep information from those they love who are trying to help , but ultimately, she is choosing not to tell Rafe, all be it, for a very good reason.

I think she will be able to justify that decision a lot more easily than Rafe will be able to justify involving the FBI without telling her or EJ.

I'm just waiting for the posts that tells me EJ's "manipulation" is responsible for climate change & 3rd world hunger. :shame:
Edited by UKDaysFan, Dec 31 2009, 09:17 PM.
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LMFAO. Yall are bashing GG for this interview but I can't wait for it to be revealed that EJ is the mastermind behind this kidnapping. Then what are you going to say. NOTHING but make excuses for EJ. If EJ is behind this kidnapping which i'm sure he is then he is manipulating Sami AND RAFE AND the police deparmtent and everybody whose in on this search for Sydney. Did any of yall stop to think that GG knows that EJ is up to no good? Not only would EJ be manipulative but he would also be deceptive and commiting a crime which is EJ's specialty. GG knows what he's talking about and he's saying EJ is manipulating for a reason just like he told Buzzworthy radio that EJ was acting like he knew where Sydney is but isn't telling. Hmm makes you wonder.

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He manipulated Sami into not telling THE REAL FATHER about his child.


That never happened. Yall need to stop making stuff up(I can't stand that). SAmi didn't tell EJ about his child cause of EJ's actions and Ej proved Rafe right. In the end, it was Ej's actions that caused her not tell him at the wedding. Nothing Rafe did stop Sami from doing what she wanted to do. If she wanted EJ to know about his child, he would have known and that's the bottom line on that one. WE all know that EJ has no problem manipulating Sami as he has done it over the years throughtout their dysfucntional f'd up nonrelationship.
Edited by Nicole Walker, Jan 1 2010, 12:56 AM.
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LMFAO. Yall are bashing GG for this interview but I can't wait for it to be revealed that EJ is the kidnapper. Then what are you going to say. NOTHING but make excuses for EJ. FYI if EJ is behind this kidnapping which i'm sure he is then he is manipulating Sami AND RAFE AND the police deparmtent and everybody whose in on this search for Sydney. Not only is he being manipulative but he's also beind deceptive which is EJ's specialty.

You are so right with this post. Wow. I think it's ridiculous that actors/characters aren't capable of being separated. GG/Rafe are two different people. One is fictional while the other one is real.
I'm sure that excuses galore will be made if it's revealed that EJ is the mastermind.
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daisy132
Dec 31 2009, 08:35 PM
kitkat
Dec 31 2009, 12:55 AM
TINA222
Dec 31 2009, 12:12 AM
If EJ isnt behind this kidnapping them GG can shove it up his ass. He tries to hard to make his character the good guy. Its like he is scared the fans will not like him otherwise. insecure much? I hope EJ is behind this and is taking delight in torturing Safe. Pay back's a bitch and you dont cross a Dimera!
It doesn't matter whether he is behind the kidnapping or not, he is manipulating Sami. And if he's not behind the kidnapping, that makes him a bigger monster, that means he's using their own daughter's kidnapping against her. I don't hate this article, though the title is misconcieving, sounds like Rafe knows they are lying so he is not in the dark is he. I should hate this article, but I don't because it sounds like we will see another side of Rafe, and I have loved all we've seen so far... And it doesn't matter who hates Safe, others love them and they have one awards as a great soap opera couple for 2009.
I wouldn't talk about manipulation ( :applause: bravo Galen for using a new word) if I were Rafe. He manipulated Sami into not telling THE REAL FATHER about his child.
No Sami made her final decision after Philip K ended up in hospital after being shot point blank and all roads led to EJ and Stefano Dimera.

And actually manipulation is the perfect word for what EJ is doing as it is lloking very likely that EJ is the mastermind! This article was clearly hinting at that which is consistent with GG's radio interview too about EJ acting strange and not being as helpful as he could.

EJ is a creep and selfish enough to keep Johnny and Sydney apart to spite Sami because she chose Rafe and not him. What a loser :lol:
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"I'm sure that excuses galore will be made if it's revealed that EJ is the mastermind."

Of course it will. The excuses are already being made.
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Manda1
Jan 1 2010, 12:54 AM
EJ is a creep and selfish enough to keep Johnny and Sydney apart to spite Sami because she chose Rafe and not him. What a loser :lol:
I think EJ is probably keeping Sydney from Sami as symmetrical revenge for doing the same thing to him, not because the pain of Rafe getting to bathe in her glitter is too much to bear, although I suppose there could be some combination of motives.

Happy New Year to all!
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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Jan 1 2010, 01:10 AM
Manda1
Jan 1 2010, 12:54 AM
EJ is a creep and selfish enough to keep Johnny and Sydney apart to spite Sami because she chose Rafe and not him. What a loser :lol:
I think EJ is probably keeping Sydney from Sami as symmetrical revenge for doing the same thing to him, not because the pain of Rafe getting to bathe in her glitter is too much to bear, although I suppose there could be some combination of motives.

Happy New Year to all!
Agreed. At this point I have seen EJ give little to no indication that he's interested in Sami romantically. If anything, he's taken great pains to include Rafe in most of their interactions.

I suspect this is all about revenge. And if we get a bonus of it causing a major blow to the Safe relationship...even better. I always thought it was odd that EJ was so angry about Sami and Rafe plotting to raise his child right under his nose as if she were their own and then suddenly be almost chummy with them. I'll be curious to see when he got involved in the Sydnapping but it really doesn't matter much to me if it's from the beginning or only after Anna had her - I'm just excited to see that EJ isn't okay with being cuckolded by Safe or anyone else. THAT is the EJ I adore. :wub:
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