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It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next few days regarding Sydney, because if Spoiler: click to toggle EJ really is the kidnapper, the show has gone past red herrings and straight into lying to the audience. JS is not playing it like he's involved at all, and there do need to be some red flags that he's behind it, when he's alone. Otherwise, it turns more into something for shock value than a carefully planned story.
James was playing it right until recently. The scenes at the Pub when Sami got the call from Nicole, the scenes in Cleveland, and especially the scenes on the pier during the vigil...he played them all well. He had EJ looking very suspicious and you could literally see the wheels turning. Now it seems like he is overdoing it on EJ"s "innocent victim" and "surprised" routine. He does that big time tomorrow too, especially in the final scene. As unrealistic as the hearing was (I never expect soaps to handle courtroom drama realistically because it would be boring that way), I LOVED it. They took the opportunity to lay out everything Nicole did as well as presenting her side through Brady. We also had the judge highlighting some of the things both Sami and EJ have done, which was hilarious. It really was a nice way of showing all perspectives involved and I think it did a nice job of showing why EJ feels more wronged then anyone else given he was lied to THREE times. That was nice setup. Arianne Zucker was FANTASTIC. I'm sure she will be tomorrow in her goodbye scenes too. I thought Martsolf and Sweeney were good too today as well as Deidrick and Sprietler. It was also nice seeing Will actually involved and by Sami's side. I enjoyed the Melanie/Philip/Stephanie/Nathan stuff. It was filler but it was good story development filler. The Arianna stuff was a waste but I can see they are building up to something there.
Yea, he did, at first. That time at the pub where he just sat looking into space while everyone else was excited to hear Nicole was in Cleveland was a good set up to him ending up being involved, but things have changed a lot since then, and it really speaks to the need for directors, unless Spoiler: click to toggle The source was wrong and he's not involved right now. Days has done such a good job of keeping a lid on things recently that I almost wouldn't be surprised if they're leaking the wrong information to keep things shaken up.
I don't think it's the directors because, otherwise, JS would've never played out as he did in the beginning. I think maybe it was suggested he was playing it too suspiciously and they told him to tone it down but he took it too far and now seems lost as to how to play it. Oh and Spoiler: click to toggle EJ shows up to see Anna at the end of tomorrow's episode so he's involved, not that I ever doubted it. It makes too much sense and the sources reporting the info were very reliable. Yea, but if they had direction and he went too far in the other direction, someone could reign it back in again. Someone reported that the actors were pretty much on their own in that department. As for the spoiler Spoiler: click to toggle Have you seen the whole episode? I saw a clip of him looking surprised to see her there, which is what also made me wonder. Guess we'll see in a few days.
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Jan 6 2010, 03:48 PM
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- Jan 6 2010, 03:43 PM
I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows. Who said there were no directors? A different director is listed every day LOL. You can't produce a show without one.
I don't think directors make much of a difference with Days anymore. There just isn't any time nor is there a suitable budget. They have to do things in one take and they have to churn out episodes fast. OLTL does the same thing. Efficiency is the best way to achieve survival right now. I think everyone would love things to be different but you do what you must.
Also, for all we know, the directors may be telling the actors to do those things. Afterall, it's all subjective. What some see as bad acting others may see as great.
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Jan 6 2010, 03:49 PM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle EJ really is the kidnapper, the show has gone past red herrings and straight into lying to the audience. JS is not playing it like he's involved at all, and there do need to be some red flags that he's behind it, when he's alone. Otherwise, it turns more into something for shock value than a carefully planned story.
Yea, he did, at first. That time at the pub where he just sat looking into space while everyone else was excited to hear Nicole was in Cleveland was a good set up to him ending up being involved, but things have changed a lot since then, and it really speaks to the need for directors, unless Spoiler: click to toggle The source was wrong and he's not involved right now. Days has done such a good job of keeping a lid on things recently that I almost wouldn't be surprised if they're leaking the wrong information to keep things shaken up.
I don't think it's the directors because, otherwise, JS would've never played out as he did in the beginning. I think maybe it was suggested he was playing it too suspiciously and they told him to tone it down but he took it too far and now seems lost as to how to play it. Oh and Spoiler: click to toggle EJ shows up to see Anna at the end of tomorrow's episode so he's involved, not that I ever doubted it. It makes too much sense and the sources reporting the info were very reliable.
Yea, but if they had direction and he went too far in the other direction, someone could reign it back in again. Someone reported that the actors were pretty much on their own in that department. As for the spoiler Spoiler: click to toggle Have you seen the whole episode? I saw a clip of him looking surprised to see her there, which is what also made me wonder. Guess we'll see in a few days. I have seen tomorrow's episode.
Spoiler: click to toggle The final scene is EJ coming to see her. I know he acted shocked but that was probably just a false tag, meaning a way to trick the audience. We'll see but, either way, we know Sydney is not rescued anytime soon so we know EJ will be involved in this even if he isn't already.
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Jan 6 2010, 03:50 PM
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I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows.
Who said there were no directors? A different director is listed every day LOL. You can't produce a show without one. I don't think directors make much of a difference with Days anymore. There just isn't any time nor is there a suitable budget. They have to do things in one take and they have to churn out episodes fast. OLTL does the same thing. Efficiency is the best way to achieve survival right now. I think everyone would love things to be different but you do what you must. Also, for all we know, the directors may be telling the actors to do those things. Afterall, it's all subjective. What some see as bad acting others may see as great. Remember when an episode of Biography dealt with AMC? Finola Hughes was in a scene where her character was in the hospital (I think Anna had suffered a stillbirth or something) and the director was giving her direction and Finola looked at him and asked "So you want me to overact?" I nearly spit out my drink laughing.
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Jan 6 2010, 03:51 PM
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I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows. Thank you! It's almost obvious that the directors go on lunch when the younger set shoot their scenes.
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Jan 6 2010, 03:53 PM
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I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows.
Who said there were no directors? A different director is listed every day LOL. You can't produce a show without one. I don't think directors make much of a difference with Days anymore. There just isn't any time nor is there a suitable budget. They have to do things in one take and they have to churn out episodes fast. OLTL does the same thing. Efficiency is the best way to achieve survival right now. I think everyone would love things to be different but you do what you must. Also, for all we know, the directors may be telling the actors to do those things. Afterall, it's all subjective. What some see as bad acting others may see as great.
Remember when an episode of Biography dealt with AMC? Finola Hughes was in a scene where her character was in the hospital (I think Anna had suffered a stillbirth or something) and the director was giving her direction and Finola looked at him and asked "So you want me to overact?" I nearly spit out my drink laughing. LMAO! :laugh:
I remember that. Sometimes I think directors do more harm then good. That may sound stupid but I think alot of the annoying mannerisms we see are encouraged by the directors.
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Jan 6 2010, 03:54 PM
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I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows.
Thank you! It's almost obvious that the directors go on lunch when the younger set shoot their scenes. ...What if that's what they're like after direction? :scared:
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Jan 6 2010, 03:55 PM
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I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows.
Thank you! It's almost obvious that the directors go on lunch when the younger set shoot their scenes. :D
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- Jan 6 2010, 03:48 PM
I don't think directors make much of a difference with Days anymore. There just isn't any time nor is there a suitable budget. They have to do things in one take and they have to churn out episodes fast. OLTL does the same thing. Efficiency is the best way to achieve survival right now. I think everyone would love things to be different but you do what you must. But it's actually evident that the OLTL directors are doing something, even in those one takes. On DAYS, not so much.
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Jan 6 2010, 03:56 PM
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I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows.
Thank you! It's almost obvious that the directors go on lunch when the younger set shoot their scenes. :laugh: .
You never know. Deidrick and Rodriguez are the only two who seem to put anything into their performances consistently. Spreitler is all over the place. There are days that I see the same potential I used to see in her and days where I feel like she just woke up from a nap. Dylan Patton just looks lost most of the time now. Hopefully, once the new Will starts he will be better. I'm not ready to write Taylor Spreitler off yet but if things don't improve with her CONSISTENTLY soon, then even I will start hoping she gets axed.
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I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows.
Thank you! It's almost obvious that the directors go on lunch when the younger set shoot their scenes.
...What if that's what they're like after direction? :scared: Then we're in trouble...
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Jan 6 2010, 03:59 PM
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I still don't understand how these damn shows function without directors. Who the hell is there on set each day to offer an objective eye that whatever these people are doing doesn't look like absolute shit? A director would at least be able to tell Mia not to look so vacant-eyed and Melanie to stop scrunching up her nose like someone's told her to smell her eyebrows.
Thank you! It's almost obvious that the directors go on lunch when the younger set shoot their scenes. :laugh: . Spreitler is all over the place. There are days that I see the same potential I used to see in her and days where I feel like she just woke up from a nap. Dylan Patton just looks lost most of the time now. Hopefully, once the new Will starts he will be better. I'm not ready to write Taylor Spreitler off yet but if things don't improve with her CONSISTENTLY soon, then even I will start hoping she gets axed. I want to throw cold water in their faces.
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Jan 6 2010, 04:01 PM
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When is new Will supposed to start airing, anyway, and does he really look as old as some have been saying he does? If so, it makes me wonder if TS might be on her way out.
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Jan 6 2010, 04:01 PM
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I don't think directors make much of a difference with Days anymore. There just isn't any time nor is there a suitable budget. They have to do things in one take and they have to churn out episodes fast. OLTL does the same thing. Efficiency is the best way to achieve survival right now. I think everyone would love things to be different but you do what you must.
But it's actually evident that the OLTL directors are doing something, even in those one takes. On DAYS, not so much. Eh...we don't know that either way. As I said, it's all subjective. Six could be on to something too. Maybe the directing team makes suggestions that actually hurt more then help in some cases.
Days has had most of it's directing team for years now. Most of those directors started in the 80's. I think Grant Johnson and Noel Maxam (who is supervising producer but directs once and awhile) are the only ones who haven't been. They've directed episodes with fantastic performances and production values so if they've done that in the past, what is so different now? It all points back to the budget and having less time to work with. It also may have to do with the particular actors. Some take direction better then others. Comparing OLTL to Days is hard because while they have similar budget constraints and similar ways of handling those constraints, you also have different personalities behind the scenes.
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Jan 6 2010, 04:03 PM
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Better personalities, maybe? ;)
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Jan 6 2010, 04:04 PM
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When is new Will supposed to start airing, anyway, and does he really look as old as some have been saying he does? If so, it makes me wonder if TS might be on her way out. I believe he will begin airing sometime in early/mid February but don't quote me on that.
I do think TS COULD be on thin ice. I have a feeling the recent turn the character has taken is an attempt at trying to suit the character to her strengths. I think if she doesn't start showing a bit more consistency she will be gone by summer. I suspect this teen scene will get a ton of airtime come summer so they would likely want to make the change and fast.
I don't think she will go anywhere though.
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Jan 6 2010, 04:05 PM
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Spreitler should've been on thin ice. That ice should be starting to break by now. She definitely should've gone before Patton.
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Jan 6 2010, 04:07 PM
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Better personalities, maybe? ;) Maybe in your opinion but I tend to lean toward a group that has been around alot longer. That's just me. I like the OLTL team too but I think you could bring their team over to Days and get the same results. As I said, I think it has alot more to do with the budget, time, and the actors then it does anything else. I'm sure there are some suggestions from directors that are not the right way to go but I'm sure that happens at OLTL too.
I also love Noel Maxam. I hope he ends up being an EP some day. He worked under Ed Scott and he knows how to make production work with less to work with. I think he's better then anyone OLTL has.
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Jan 6 2010, 04:08 PM
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Spreitler should've been on thin ice. That ice should be starting to break by now. She definitely should've gone before Patton. I disagree but that is no surprise. Afterall, I LOVED her early performances right up until June when most didn't. I think she showed far more then Patton. Patton just looks uncomfortable and lost. Sprietler IMO at least shows her potential still once and awhile.
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Jan 6 2010, 04:09 PM
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I think he's better then anyone OLTL has. I'd have to disagree about that one. I can't recall any of Maxim's episodes off the top of my head, but obviously, I've watched his episodes before and I have to say, other than some episodes when Ed Scott was still there, I can't think of one episode on DAYS that stands in comparison to daily episodes on OLTL. OLTL has the best directors in daytime, for sure.
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