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| PhoenixRising05 | Jan 5 2010, 01:54 AM Post #41 |
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They are getting their fair shot now LOL. In fact, you could say it's unfair to any Brady/Arianna fans because they never had a shot in hell. It's obvious who Brady wants and Nicole has realized now who she belongs with. I'm glad the show has laid the foundation for what Nicole will be doing when she returns. Just because she is going on leave doesn't mean the investment isn't there. She will be back. I would agree if she was leaving for good but knowing she is coming back shouldn't hurt the investment one has a viewer IMO. I do agree though that the scenes seemed a bit out of place given the rest of the episode was basically focused on the Carly story and the quad. |
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| cassie1013 | Jan 5 2010, 03:08 AM Post #42 |
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Loving the Bope quad, even though Justin and Hope are chemistry-less. The "kiss-for-show" plot was a great direction to go in, though, I didn't quite understand why half of Salem was up in arms over people making out ... it's not like Victor and Vivian walked in on them having sex. I, too, was surprised Victor kicked Justin out. Made for some good drama, but it also takes Justin out of Hope's orbit, and potentially the quad in general. Part of the fun with this story was everyone living under one roof (what I like to call "house of crazy"). If I had to choose though, I'd much rather have Hope at the K-Mansion. The Victor/Hope scenes were awesome. I really enjoyed them. Had to LOL to the oh-so-eloquent way Vivian spills the beans to Bo at, what, 1 AM? That other quad was meh. I can't remember what else happened, lol. ETA: I am loving KA and PR in a front burner story, too! I was just watching some old school Princess Gina clips, and they rocked that... Hope's lost the edge she brought in that story (obviously because of the Gina thing, but still) and so much of Hope in recent years has revolved around being a mom. The previous Bope breakup didn't work because Billie and Patrick were weak interlopers. Like I said before, I like Justin and Hope as friends - a lot - but the only thing missing for me in this story is a legitimate love interest for Hope. It was a smart move, writing wise, to have dramatic potential from the faux-kiss, though...took advantage of Justin being in Hope's orbit, but not ruining Hope's character by having an actual romantic romp with someone she has no chemistry with. Edited by cassie1013, Jan 5 2010, 03:12 AM.
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| King | Jan 5 2010, 03:10 AM Post #43 |
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LOVED LOVED LOVED Today's episode! I usually don't discuss daily episodes in the threads anymore, but I Had to for today's. Ari, Molly, that kid who plays Nathan, Kristian, Louise, Crystal, John...GOD what was in the water over at DAYS' studio the day they taped this? Marvelous. Great acting all around. No one phoned any of it in. This is how it should be EVERY DAY!! |
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| cassie1013 | Jan 5 2010, 03:12 AM Post #44 |
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^ You can say that again. I really loved it too! |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Jan 5 2010, 03:34 AM Post #45 |
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I think it helps that the writing in terms of the characters has gotten better. The day to day writing has been great for awhile but you are starting to see the day to day writing focus on what drives the characters. It's sort of like how the writing for the baby switch story was throughout all of 2009. Nicole, EJ, Sami, etc...their motives were clear and the show devoted alot of time to developing that story and what was driving those characters to do what they did. Now, we have that happening with all of the stories. It started happening gradually during the Fall for the other stories and the past few episodes I've seen a HUGE improvement in this regard. I hope it continues because while the acting overall is usually fine...I think it can only improve with material like this for the cast to sink their teeth into. It's amazing that shitty scriptwriters like John Newman are churning stuff like this out. I expect an episode like today or Thursday out of Richard Culliton but not people like Ryan Quan or John Newman. Kudos to them. Oh, and King you need to post more. I love reading your thoughts! Edited by PhoenixRising05, Jan 5 2010, 03:35 AM.
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| Kirk | Jan 5 2010, 04:08 AM Post #46 |
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I have found each episode Ryan Quan has scripted has been above average and in fact rivals Richard Culliton's eppies. Quan almost always uses past history, which I love. IA with you Phoenix the writing has stepped up lately, I really hope it continues. I am excited to see what Carolyn Culliton brings to the table. I don't know why, but Kola Boof's (that was her name right?) name just popped into head. Wonder what she is up to these days? |
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| King | Jan 5 2010, 04:14 AM Post #47 |
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LOL, thanks, Tim. Well, to be honest, I am RARELY this caught up on DAYS. This is the most caught up I have been in years. LOL. Yeah, you are right. The writing is getting better. The dialogue. OMG, the "polident" line from Carly to Viv the other day had me ROTFLMAO. And Viv, Victor, and Kate also have the best dialogue. |
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| cassie1013 | Jan 5 2010, 06:36 AM Post #48 |
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Ah! One thing I forgot - Monday's ep was fantastic because there was no Sami, and very minimal baby drama. I'm so sick of the Scooby gang and this baby search. It's actually a good story with the twist(s), but Ali Sweeney's only from of acting expression - you know the one: hysterical breathing, "crying" with no tears, breathing heavy and/or yelling - combined with EJ's over the top "angry" face, yelling and shaky hands - gets exhausting to watch. I think I just nailed why I don't like EJ and Sami - it's the actors! Gah. |
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| Paxton | Jan 5 2010, 08:28 AM Post #49 |
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I felt the same way. Victor chastising Hope felt hollow to me and he acted like the idea that Hope might cheat on Bo was so completely out of her character, which, correct me if I'm wrong but this wouldn't be the first time would it? Or else we couldn't have had WTD drama with Patrick? I love Victor but that did not work. The Brady and Nicole stuff feels not exactly random but very rushed, like they need our last image of Nicole before AZ goes on maternity leave to have some sort of star-crossed lover scenes with Brady because soon we'll be seeing (presumably) Brady/Arianna/EJ. I assume Nicole will return to form a quad with those three or perhaps a triangle with Brady and Arianna. It will just never not bother me that the show hasn't attempted to explain when and why Brady decided Nicole and not Chloe (and I am not and never have been a Broe fan) was the love of his life and vice versa. I could see Nicole realizing that Brady is the one who's stood by her (and frankly enabled her, which is another issue); however, it still feels rushed and ill-explained to me. As noted by others, a Sami-free episode is a joyous day indeed. One to treasure. Though as usual, the show giveth and then taketh away, since I was forced to endure Melanie. |
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| Alligato | Jan 5 2010, 09:22 AM Post #50 |
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Preach it, cassie! I totally enjoyed yesterday's show, then when I saw previews of today's show and saw more Scooby gang, it ruined it. Can we get more days off from those idiots? |
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| karmakatch63 | Jan 5 2010, 09:54 AM Post #51 |
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Hope also had sex with John and Stefano and there was a whole "WTD" story line and a poll about that. Yea, yea, I know.....Hope and John get brain control passes, just like Marlena got possession passes. I get sick of those. Bo and Marlena were just supposed to accept their loved ones' brains were fried and therefore the sex was acceptable. Funny how that works. Bo's brain injury with visions got him in trouble with Hope over and over. Her brain issues with Stefano got her sex and a kid. Seems there's lots of hypocrisy on this show. |
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| Days4Life | Jan 5 2010, 10:55 AM Post #52 |
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I thought Monday's show was very good. The only parts of the episode that dragged a little were the Brady/Nicole scenes; other than that, I enjoyed all of it. I feel we're really getting into the core of the characters and why they are motivated to do what they are doing. Also, not only has the writing improved but the acting as well. I love the non-verbal acting--like the other day when Melanie was talking about how much she was enjoying her job at the hospital and this look crossed Philip's face and you just knew he wasn't at all pleased about Melanie's career choice. I'm even seeing hints of the old EJ again, in the scenes where he's just standing back, quietly watching the interactions between Sami and Rafe and you can almost see the wheels turning as he plots something. The Bo/Hope/Justin/Carly quad has me in knots--some days I'm rooting for one character or pairing and the next day I change my mind and go the other direction. That's a testament to the writing and how they are crafting a story where there are no real heroes or villains, just people in a difficult situation, trying to work through things the best they can. It's not perfect by any means (I still think Bo and Hope just need to sit down and have a long, honest, uninterrupted conversation and everything would be okay), but the show is definitely much better written than it's been for awhile. |
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| King | Jan 5 2010, 10:59 AM Post #53 |
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I usually FF Ali Sweeney. She sucks anymore. I am so over her. |
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| lysie | Jan 5 2010, 11:01 AM Post #54 |
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I was bored during yesterday's show, but now you all have me wondering if I just wasn't paying attention. The only thing I remember is being annoyed that Victor told Hope that he knew from the minute Carly got to Salem she would come between BOPE. Because, seriously...Hope asked Victor about her, and he told her not to worry. Was there a trivia question? |
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| DrewHamilton | Jan 5 2010, 12:44 PM Post #55 |
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I don't consider two people suddenly realizing their feelings for each other and admitting them to each other in a matter of days to be a fair shot. It was rushed and that's due to Zucker's maternity leave. Perfectly fine excuse. However, I'm hoping that once Zucker returns, we can see an actual story develop between these two, rather than just a few scenes here and there of them realizing and admitting their love for each other. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Jan 5 2010, 12:55 PM Post #56 |
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There have been plenty of scenes where we've seen their feelings on display this whole past year. Remember the scenes right before Nicole's wedding to EJ last April? Or even some of the scenes last winter when Nicole was begging Brady to help her and you could see the underlying feelings she had while he wasn't really hiding his feelings at all. The last few months has had Nicole lose EJ and Sydney and she now realizes she should've acted on her feelings for Brady instead of the path of destruction she did take. It hasn't been rushed at all. Brady and Arianna was the pairing that got screwed over, not that it matters because that pairing was DOA due to the way they were presented and essentially forced on fans. Edited by PhoenixRising05, Jan 5 2010, 12:55 PM.
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| DrewHamilton | Jan 5 2010, 01:12 PM Post #57 |
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Yes, I get that. I do remember. However, neither admitted their feelings for each other back then. And that's because the story wasn't ready for them to admit their feelings for each other and lead into a coupling of their own. That would be down the road. Well, we are at the end of that road now and Zucker's maternity leave, which wasn't expected, I'm sure, when this story was written last year, derailed things a bit. Instead of getting into a Brady and Nicole pairing, which I'm sure was the direction, we now have to wait until Zucker returns from her maternity leave to get a real Brady and Nicole pairing. As for Brady and Arianna, they were screwed from day one. First of all, Brady and Arianna were never meant to be Brady and Arianna. That's obvious. Arianna was going to be Max's girl, and I'm sure we still would've had the whole drug thing, but with Max in the picture instead of Brady. But then Darin Brooks left and they just threw Arianna at Brady in what would become one of the most boring, contrived couples in DAYS history. Next, they through bringing on Lindsay Hartly into the role of Arianna would instantly cause Brady and Arianna to be a success. Negative on that one. While Hartley and Martsolf still have the physical chemsitry, their characters do not and that's necessary for the story to work, which is why it's not working. So sorry for Brady and Arianna fans, but they were DOA. Edited by DrewHamilton, Jan 5 2010, 01:12 PM.
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| PhoenixRising05 | Jan 5 2010, 02:01 PM Post #58 |
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Actually, Brady was very open about his feelings. He never did hide them around the time Nicole's schemes began and he came right out with his feelings right before Nicole's wedding. Nicole also admitted she loved Brady but felt she belonged with EJ. She deluded herself into thinking EJ and Sydney were the perfect life when it was nothing but a ruse she created via her schemes. Yes, their story hasn't really begun. We have the premise and the rest will have to wait. My point is the buildup to them being a couple is essentially already there now. Your absolutely right about Brady and Arianna though. No doubt they weren't the plan and alot of story was messed up because they had to change things with Darin leaving. I think that is why the drug story has been all over the place and why Brady and Arianna seem to be in a sort of limbo. That is why we got all the repetitive scenes of them fighting and bumping into each other and so on. I think the show knows they don't fit. Recasting with Lindsey Hartley was their last chance. It failed and it seems they know it. They just need to position the characters for what is to come next. |
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| Kevc1980 | Jan 5 2010, 02:04 PM Post #59 |
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I agree Brady and Arianna don't work, that's why I want the writers to explore EJ and Arianna. That would be so hot. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Jan 5 2010, 02:08 PM Post #60 |
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I agree. Not to mention Lindsey Hartley is another level when she gets to play a rich bitch LOL. On Passion, she went from great to BRILLIANT once they had her marry characters like Julian and Alistair and had her hang around the Crane mansion. |
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