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Spoilers for wk of January 18th; *UPDATED 1/16*
Topic Started: Jan 8 2010, 09:45 PM (16,596 Views)
kitkat
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Jan 10 2010, 05:19 PM
There are a whole lot of buts and what ifs in your post that sound like hopeful spin to me. I don't really care why Rafe won't tell Sami anything about his past - the fact is, he won't. That would be a deal breaker for me in a new relationship - particularly if I expect this person to be deeply involved with my young children. It should be a HUGE red flag to Sami that he not only won't tell her, but throws an absolute hissy fit when she has the audacity to ask. Why should he stay with her if she thinks he's capable of murder? I don't recall seeing her ever saying that - but I think you're absolutely right. He shouldn't. :lol: As for giving no evidence that if asked again he wouldn't tell her - I don't know, I thought he made it pretty damned clear that if she wants him to hang around she's not allowed to ask. She even gives her self little pats on the back for managing to NOT ask him much of anything. The most intriguing thing about your post, at least to me, is that you seem to feel that it's a problem that Sami 'hasn't been totally honest about her past'. That smacks of a double standard to me - why should she be required to tell him anything when clearly he won't discuss his past with her?
That's a deal breaker to you, really, cool, mine is rape. Thank goodness neither one of us are a fictional character named Sami Brady. I was saying that her questions made it seem like she thought he did it, but her emotions and the comments she made to others, in every certain word saying he wasn't capable of it, spoke volumes in the differ. Remember he left, she didn't want him to go... A hissy fit, really, you mean like EJ shaking Sami at the funeral home, or putting his hands on Nicole's throat even though he knew she was perfectly innocent of the second kidnapping. How about him choking his father? A hissy fit like that, is that what you mean. He never said that she was no longer able to question him about Emily when he returned, never remarked on it, never commented on it, never did hand gestures about it... did I miss the note? He didn't want her asking about his mission, he asks her to promise him something and she did, she was proud of herself. I've got no problem with her not telling Rafe, specially about the rape, I agree with Rafe sometimes the past should be just that the past.
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maybe it's like the commercial question bit... who knows... I can't believe Bo and Hope seem to be drifting back to each other, the way he used Carly...
Where did you get that from??
LOL, I second that - don't remember reading this, and it also seems highly unlikely at this point.
I said seem... you let me see how I came to that conclusion...

Bo and Carly sleep together tomorrow, but later in the week he's rushing to Hope's side, RIP uncle mickey, This week's spoiler says he's asking Daniel to keep an eye on Carly, for some reason he's not doing it himself, and Days Cafe says for this week, the week of the 18th, Bo and Hope are filled with regrets... I don't know, seemed obvious to me, lol.
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Jan 10 2010, 06:43 PM
SocRMum1
Jan 10 2010, 05:19 PM
There are a whole lot of buts and what ifs in your post that sound like hopeful spin to me. I don't really care why Rafe won't tell Sami anything about his past - the fact is, he won't. That would be a deal breaker for me in a new relationship - particularly if I expect this person to be deeply involved with my young children. It should be a HUGE red flag to Sami that he not only won't tell her, but throws an absolute hissy fit when she has the audacity to ask. Why should he stay with her if she thinks he's capable of murder? I don't recall seeing her ever saying that - but I think you're absolutely right. He shouldn't. :lol: As for giving no evidence that if asked again he wouldn't tell her - I don't know, I thought he made it pretty damned clear that if she wants him to hang around she's not allowed to ask. She even gives her self little pats on the back for managing to NOT ask him much of anything. The most intriguing thing about your post, at least to me, is that you seem to feel that it's a problem that Sami 'hasn't been totally honest about her past'. That smacks of a double standard to me - why should she be required to tell him anything when clearly he won't discuss his past with her?
That's a deal breaker to you, really, cool, mine is rape. Thank goodness neither one of us are a fictional character named Sami Brady. I was saying that her questions made it seem like she thought he did it, but her emotions and the comments she made to others, in every certain word saying he wasn't capable of it, spoke volumes in the differ. Remember he left, she didn't want him to go... A hissy fit, really, you mean like EJ shaking Sami at the funeral home, or putting his hands on Nicole's throat even though he knew she was perfectly innocent of the second kidnapping. How about him choking his father? A hissy fit like that, is that what you mean. He never said that she was no longer able to question him about Emily when he returned, never remarked on it, never commented on it, never did hand gestures about it... did I miss the note? He didn't want her asking about his mission, he asks her to promise him something and she did, she was proud of herself. I've got no problem with her not telling Rafe, specially about the rape, I agree with Rafe sometimes the past should be just that the past.
I agree-- sometimes the past should stay in the past. I doubt that Sami has told Rafe everything about her past, and she doesn't need to either.
If they are both OK with it, and they are, then why make a big deal out of it??
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Jan 10 2010, 08:26 PM
kitkat
Jan 10 2010, 06:43 PM
SocRMum1
Jan 10 2010, 05:19 PM
There are a whole lot of buts and what ifs in your post that sound like hopeful spin to me. I don't really care why Rafe won't tell Sami anything about his past - the fact is, he won't. That would be a deal breaker for me in a new relationship - particularly if I expect this person to be deeply involved with my young children. It should be a HUGE red flag to Sami that he not only won't tell her, but throws an absolute hissy fit when she has the audacity to ask. Why should he stay with her if she thinks he's capable of murder? I don't recall seeing her ever saying that - but I think you're absolutely right. He shouldn't. :lol: As for giving no evidence that if asked again he wouldn't tell her - I don't know, I thought he made it pretty damned clear that if she wants him to hang around she's not allowed to ask. She even gives her self little pats on the back for managing to NOT ask him much of anything. The most intriguing thing about your post, at least to me, is that you seem to feel that it's a problem that Sami 'hasn't been totally honest about her past'. That smacks of a double standard to me - why should she be required to tell him anything when clearly he won't discuss his past with her?
That's a deal breaker to you, really, cool, mine is rape. Thank goodness neither one of us are a fictional character named Sami Brady. I was saying that her questions made it seem like she thought he did it, but her emotions and the comments she made to others, in every certain word saying he wasn't capable of it, spoke volumes in the differ. Remember he left, she didn't want him to go... A hissy fit, really, you mean like EJ shaking Sami at the funeral home, or putting his hands on Nicole's throat even though he knew she was perfectly innocent of the second kidnapping. How about him choking his father? A hissy fit like that, is that what you mean. He never said that she was no longer able to question him about Emily when he returned, never remarked on it, never commented on it, never did hand gestures about it... did I miss the note? He didn't want her asking about his mission, he asks her to promise him something and she did, she was proud of herself. I've got no problem with her not telling Rafe, specially about the rape, I agree with Rafe sometimes the past should be just that the past.
I agree-- sometimes the past should stay in the past. I doubt that Sami has told Rafe everything about her past, and she doesn't need to either.
If they are both OK with it, and they are, then why make a big deal out of it??
These are a funny posts about the 'past staying the past' given the characters being debated. :drunk:
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

kitkat
Jan 10 2010, 06:43 PM
SocRMum1
Jan 10 2010, 05:19 PM
There are a whole lot of buts and what ifs in your post that sound like hopeful spin to me. I don't really care why Rafe won't tell Sami anything about his past - the fact is, he won't. That would be a deal breaker for me in a new relationship - particularly if I expect this person to be deeply involved with my young children. It should be a HUGE red flag to Sami that he not only won't tell her, but throws an absolute hissy fit when she has the audacity to ask. Why should he stay with her if she thinks he's capable of murder? I don't recall seeing her ever saying that - but I think you're absolutely right. He shouldn't. :lol: As for giving no evidence that if asked again he wouldn't tell her - I don't know, I thought he made it pretty damned clear that if she wants him to hang around she's not allowed to ask. She even gives her self little pats on the back for managing to NOT ask him much of anything. The most intriguing thing about your post, at least to me, is that you seem to feel that it's a problem that Sami 'hasn't been totally honest about her past'. That smacks of a double standard to me - why should she be required to tell him anything when clearly he won't discuss his past with her?
That's a deal breaker to you, really, cool, mine is rape. Thank goodness neither one of us are a fictional character named Sami Brady. I was saying that her questions made it seem like she thought he did it, but her emotions and the comments she made to others, in every certain word saying he wasn't capable of it, spoke volumes in the differ. Remember he left, she didn't want him to go... A hissy fit, really, you mean like EJ shaking Sami at the funeral home, or putting his hands on Nicole's throat even though he knew she was perfectly innocent of the second kidnapping. How about him choking his father? A hissy fit like that, is that what you mean. He never said that she was no longer able to question him about Emily when he returned, never remarked on it, never commented on it, never did hand gestures about it... did I miss the note? He didn't want her asking about his mission, he asks her to promise him something and she did, she was proud of herself. I've got no problem with her not telling Rafe, specially about the rape, I agree with Rafe sometimes the past should be just that the past.
I didn't set out to get you all riled up - I was simply commenting on your statement regarding Rafe and Sami which specifically was:

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Why would one partner stay with the other partner if the second believed the first was capable of murder. And he's gave us no evidence that if asked again, he wouldn't tell her further, but the difference is she hasn't been totally honest about her past. Like telling Rafe that EJ raped her in the past.


That just reads to me as though you are judging Sami's behavior by a different set of standards than you use for Rafe. Whatever - that's your call. But I also don't compare Rafe and EJ at this point - that would be silly. I like EJ. :lol: But beyond that, much of what I like about him is that he's not being presented as a 'hero'. So like it or not, that does make comparing he and Rafe rather like comparing apples and oranges. Rafe keeping secrets, refusing to fill Sami in on his past, demanding things from her he's not willing to give are a problem given his supposed status as a great guy. It's totally expected from EJ - and I'm fine with that. And given the fact that Sami was never a heroine herself, that's why I find EJami the much more compelling pairing - aside from the fact that I much prefer the chemistry between the actors.



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I believe Sami did tell Rafe about what happened with EJ, that day she went on and on and on about her life story. Just because the writers didn't specifically say the "r" word, didn't mean she didn't tell it.

Either way, SHE has told him her history. He just hasn't reciprocated.

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Jan 10 2010, 09:23 PM
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Jan 10 2010, 06:43 PM
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Jan 10 2010, 05:19 PM
There are a whole lot of buts and what ifs in your post that sound like hopeful spin to me. I don't really care why Rafe won't tell Sami anything about his past - the fact is, he won't. That would be a deal breaker for me in a new relationship - particularly if I expect this person to be deeply involved with my young children. It should be a HUGE red flag to Sami that he not only won't tell her, but throws an absolute hissy fit when she has the audacity to ask. Why should he stay with her if she thinks he's capable of murder? I don't recall seeing her ever saying that - but I think you're absolutely right. He shouldn't. :lol: As for giving no evidence that if asked again he wouldn't tell her - I don't know, I thought he made it pretty damned clear that if she wants him to hang around she's not allowed to ask. She even gives her self little pats on the back for managing to NOT ask him much of anything. The most intriguing thing about your post, at least to me, is that you seem to feel that it's a problem that Sami 'hasn't been totally honest about her past'. That smacks of a double standard to me - why should she be required to tell him anything when clearly he won't discuss his past with her?
That's a deal breaker to you, really, cool, mine is rape. Thank goodness neither one of us are a fictional character named Sami Brady. I was saying that her questions made it seem like she thought he did it, but her emotions and the comments she made to others, in every certain word saying he wasn't capable of it, spoke volumes in the differ. Remember he left, she didn't want him to go... A hissy fit, really, you mean like EJ shaking Sami at the funeral home, or putting his hands on Nicole's throat even though he knew she was perfectly innocent of the second kidnapping. How about him choking his father? A hissy fit like that, is that what you mean. He never said that she was no longer able to question him about Emily when he returned, never remarked on it, never commented on it, never did hand gestures about it... did I miss the note? He didn't want her asking about his mission, he asks her to promise him something and she did, she was proud of herself. I've got no problem with her not telling Rafe, specially about the rape, I agree with Rafe sometimes the past should be just that the past.
I didn't set out to get you all riled up - I was simply commenting on your statement regarding Rafe and Sami which specifically was:

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Why would one partner stay with the other partner if the second believed the first was capable of murder. And he's gave us no evidence that if asked again, he wouldn't tell her further, but the difference is she hasn't been totally honest about her past. Like telling Rafe that EJ raped her in the past.


That just reads to me as though you are judging Sami's behavior by a different set of standards than you use for Rafe. Whatever - that's your call. But I also don't compare Rafe and EJ at this point - that would be silly. I like EJ. :lol: But beyond that, much of what I like about him is that he's not being presented as a 'hero'. So like it or not, that does make comparing he and Rafe rather like comparing apples and oranges. Rafe keeping secrets, refusing to fill Sami in on his past, demanding things from her he's not willing to give are a problem given his supposed status as a great guy. It's totally expected from EJ - and I'm fine with that. And given the fact that Sami was never a heroine herself, that's why I find EJami the much more compelling pairing - aside from the fact that I much prefer the chemistry between the actors.



:hail: great post ^_^
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Maybe Sami will never find out Rafe's undoubtedly boring and tedious secret, like she never found out that EJ was the one who locked Lucas in the freezer truck. Some things just get dropped and this could easily be one of them.
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Hope Daniel gets Carly away from Bo so they can hook up.
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I don't think Daniel is interested in hooking up with Carly.
He loves Chloe!!!! :wub:
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Jan 10 2010, 09:23 PM
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Jan 10 2010, 06:43 PM
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Jan 10 2010, 05:19 PM
There are a whole lot of buts and what ifs in your post that sound like hopeful spin to me. I don't really care why Rafe won't tell Sami anything about his past - the fact is, he won't. That would be a deal breaker for me in a new relationship - particularly if I expect this person to be deeply involved with my young children. It should be a HUGE red flag to Sami that he not only won't tell her, but throws an absolute hissy fit when she has the audacity to ask. Why should he stay with her if she thinks he's capable of murder? I don't recall seeing her ever saying that - but I think you're absolutely right. He shouldn't. :lol: As for giving no evidence that if asked again he wouldn't tell her - I don't know, I thought he made it pretty damned clear that if she wants him to hang around she's not allowed to ask. She even gives her self little pats on the back for managing to NOT ask him much of anything. The most intriguing thing about your post, at least to me, is that you seem to feel that it's a problem that Sami 'hasn't been totally honest about her past'. That smacks of a double standard to me - why should she be required to tell him anything when clearly he won't discuss his past with her?
That's a deal breaker to you, really, cool, mine is rape. Thank goodness neither one of us are a fictional character named Sami Brady. I was saying that her questions made it seem like she thought he did it, but her emotions and the comments she made to others, in every certain word saying he wasn't capable of it, spoke volumes in the differ. Remember he left, she didn't want him to go... A hissy fit, really, you mean like EJ shaking Sami at the funeral home, or putting his hands on Nicole's throat even though he knew she was perfectly innocent of the second kidnapping. How about him choking his father? A hissy fit like that, is that what you mean. He never said that she was no longer able to question him about Emily when he returned, never remarked on it, never commented on it, never did hand gestures about it... did I miss the note? He didn't want her asking about his mission, he asks her to promise him something and she did, she was proud of herself. I've got no problem with her not telling Rafe, specially about the rape, I agree with Rafe sometimes the past should be just that the past.
I didn't set out to get you all riled up - I was simply commenting on your statement regarding Rafe and Sami which specifically was:

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Why would one partner stay with the other partner if the second believed the first was capable of murder. And he's gave us no evidence that if asked again, he wouldn't tell her further, but the difference is she hasn't been totally honest about her past. Like telling Rafe that EJ raped her in the past.


That just reads to me as though you are judging Sami's behavior by a different set of standards than you use for Rafe. Whatever - that's your call. But I also don't compare Rafe and EJ at this point - that would be silly. I like EJ. :lol: But beyond that, much of what I like about him is that he's not being presented as a 'hero'. So like it or not, that does make comparing he and Rafe rather like comparing apples and oranges. Rafe keeping secrets, refusing to fill Sami in on his past, demanding things from her he's not willing to give are a problem given his supposed status as a great guy. It's totally expected from EJ - and I'm fine with that. And given the fact that Sami was never a heroine herself, that's why I find EJami the much more compelling pairing - aside from the fact that I much prefer the chemistry between the actors.



You didn't get me riled up, trust me you haven't seen anything yet... You're fun to spar with! Not a different standard, same standard, just when two people are in a relationship they shouldn't keep secrets from each other that affect or is part of them. I do believe that no couple fiction or otherwise tell each other everything about their past. There are several couples on Days who were not always forth right on their past before they met. We saw a rememberance today, that daggar tatoo. It took along time for Bo to tell Hope that story. Sami has been keeping secrets from Rafe and sneaking around behind his back with her ex-husband. Time for Rafe to get angry, you hardly ever see him that way. But when the two of them go at it, it looks like fire should be shooting out of their eyes. Rafe's secret is in the past and to all the evidence we've seen so far does not effect them in the present, Sami's secrets directly effects their present and is apart of them. I enjoy the couples of the show who seem to inspire each other and lift each other up, and to me that Sami and Rafe in a nutshell. I see tons of chemistry luckily that's subjective. Will look forward to another round with you.... :cheers:
Edited by kitkat, Jan 11 2010, 03:17 PM.
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Jan 11 2010, 12:28 PM
I don't think Daniel is interested in hooking up with Carly.
He loves Chloe!!!! :wub:
Chloe just better hope Carly isn't ever in need of medical attention. We all know how much that lights Daniel's fire.
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"Relax nobody's having sex.... at least not yet"

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Jan 11 2010, 05:47 PM
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Jan 11 2010, 12:28 PM
I don't think Daniel is interested in hooking up with Carly.
He loves Chloe!!!! :wub:
Chloe just better hope Carly isn't ever in need of medical attention. We all know how much that lights Daniel's fire.
I wonder if Carly's lab coat will have the same effect on Dan as the totally hawt hospital tie gown does. :biggrin:
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Week of January 18:

Hope opens up to Maggie about her feelings for Bo.

Bo asks Daniel to keep an eye on Carly.

Though Mia knows it’s wrong but admits to herself that she wants both Chad and Will.

Kate tries to figure out how to bond with Melanie.

Troy overhears Arianna on a conference call.

Thursday January 21:
Sami has a fight with Rafe over Sydney.

Friday January 22:
Carly goes ballistic on Vivian.

http://www.soaps.com/daysofourlives/spoilers/

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Jan 12 2010, 02:10 PM
Though Mia knows it’s wrong but admits to herself that she wants both Chad and Will.

:eyeroll: Wow, I can't wait to watch a 16 year old unable to decide over two boys. Riveting. Though I guess it's still better than watching the 19-year-old do it.

The rest sounds ok. I already really miss Nicole but I'm trying to stick around for Viv and her shennanigans. I kind of wish Vivian had a more interesting opponent, though; I'm remembering more and more clearly that I neither loved nor hated but was mostly just bored by Carly her first time around and I'm still pretty bored with her. I just hope Viv's plan goes into action soon.

Thanks for posting, Angie!
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Thanks Angie!
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

Thanks for posting, Angie. :)

Can Troy just do it already? Just kill her? Thanks.

And how long until Bo (and Chloe) regret asking Daniel to keep an eye on Carly?
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Jan 12 2010, 02:48 PM


And how long until Bo (and Chloe) regret asking Daniel to keep an eye on Carly?
Probally until Chloe and Bo ask Daniel if he slept with Carly... Then find out Yeah, about 20 years ago and they share a daughter named Melanie...

Thanks Angie for the spoilers
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I know its wrong, but I admit I want to run Mia over with my car.
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