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Weekly Discussion: 1/11-15; R.I.P. Mickey Horton
Topic Started: Jan 9 2010, 06:12 PM (18,654 Views)
Harmony233


Liz<3Days
Jan 11 2010, 10:01 PM
Kenny
Jan 11 2010, 09:18 PM
Liz<3Days
Jan 11 2010, 09:16 PM
Why is LH's hair styled so pretty and CC's hair is like a wet mop?
Crystal's hair looked like shit in the opening scenes of today's episode. I don't know why the stylists insist on making her look as frumpy and "blah" as possible, but it's annoying the piss out of me.
Her hair has been bugging me a lot as her wardrobe. She always wearing t-shirt like they are from Old Navy. Is it so hard to style the woman with bigger boobs on this show? (I guess my theory doesnt work cause Chloe is always in mostly nice dresses?)

Her hair was limp before sex, so thats not an excuse. Give that girl some volume..STAT!
Her hair looks much better with curls in it.
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I agree with what Matt said about it being very in character for Maggie to take in Melanie and Mia.

The Hortons were the best part of the episode once again. I like seeing Doug and Julie, individually. For years, I feel like they were always a packaged deal. It's nice to see that they can interact with other characters by themselves.

Mark Hapka impressed the hell out of me today. He's a great actor, but never really had to emote sadness yet. He proved that he's quite capable. Bravo!

I'm actually glad Bo slept with Carly. This entire time Bo and Hope's marriage was falling apart, it was so one-sided. Hope was such a bitch to Bo, while he just sat there and took it and tried to get her back. At least now, Hope has reason to be a bitch and I can't wait until she finds out that Bo slept with Carly.
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Jan 11 2010, 10:22 PM
I agree with what Matt said about it being very in character for Maggie to take in Melanie and Mia.

The Hortons were the best part of the episode once again. I like seeing Doug and Julie, individually. For years, I feel like they were always a packaged deal. It's nice to see that they can interact with other characters by themselves.

Mark Hapka impressed the hell out of me today. He's a great actor, but never really had to emote sadness yet. He proved that he's quite capable. Bravo!

I'm actually glad Bo slept with Carly. This entire time Bo and Hope's marriage was falling apart, it was so one-sided. Hope was such a bitch to Bo, while he just sat there and took it and tried to get her back. At least now, Hope has reason to be a bitch and I can't wait until she finds out that Bo slept with Carly.
:cheer: :cheer:

Yea, another person sick and tired of Bo being a punching bag, being told he was wrong, incompetent, bad father, untrustworthy. Not like it's the first time. Yes, Hope needs to be bitchy at Bo NOW, but she had no reason before. NOW there will be some good drama and hopefully a story with a long arc and NO PREDETERMINED END GAME .
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Jan 11 2010, 05:51 PM
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..Don't feel Bo's a prick at all. Just a man FINALLY tired of being treated like a piece of crap. Carly has gotten not once ounce of kindness from most of Salem. She did nothing but help them when she lived there.



Bo is about to know what a piece of crap actually does feel like when the aftermath of his "escape" hits him. Carly may have been St. Katerina Von Whatever 20 years ago, but this time around the only one she's been helping is herself to someone else's husband. I don't think everyone will be bowing down to her greatness anytime soon now that she's about to be publicly outted as a whore.

Can't wait for the crash and burn to start. :popcorn:
With you on this one. Carly only cares about one person, Carly. Carly isn't the innocent person that she leads people to believe. I have to say that Carly's new name suits her so well.
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DrewHamilton
Jan 11 2010, 10:22 PM
I agree with what Matt said about it being very in character for Maggie to take in Melanie and Mia.

The Hortons were the best part of the episode once again. I like seeing Doug and Julie, individually. For years, I feel like they were always a packaged deal. It's nice to see that they can interact with other characters by themselves.

Mark Hapka impressed the hell out of me today. He's a great actor, but never really had to emote sadness yet. He proved that he's quite capable. Bravo!

I totally agree with this. I loved the Maggie/Melanie scenes because it really spoke to the strengths of both characters. Everyone else was trying so hard to comfort Maggie and Melanie's approach was more about focusing on the amazing gift that Maggie and Mickey were given. Both responses are appropriate - I think because Melanie admitted she didn't know Mickey as well as others it made sense for her to focus on her impressions of the fantastic relationship she witnessed in Mickey and Maggie.

And Mark Hapka was outstanding. I remember when my step father passed away (who was the 'grandpa' my kids were closest to) my oldest son was trying to hard to be strong for my mother, but he was grappling with his own devastation. When Nathan moved over to the couch to help Julie comfort Maggie...but then looked as if he was fighting to wrestle control of his own grief....it was very real and powerful. And as he listened to Maggie and Melanie with tears shining in his eyes, not saying a word, I couldn't help but take notice. He was so impressive today.
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Jan 11 2010, 10:22 PM
I agree with what Matt said about it being very in character for Maggie to take in Melanie and Mia.
I agree, but I find it sad that Maggie has all these unrelated people floating in and out of her house (Mia, Melanie, Carly, etc.) while there are hardly any Hortons to be seen. When I see Maggie these days, she kind of reminds me of those sad old cat ladies. No friends, no (real) family to visit with -- just an endless number of stray kitty cats that she takes care of because she has no one else. It's really kind of depressing, LoL.

WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL THE HORTONS?!
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Another thing I liked about Hapka today is that I *finally* got what I keep missing from these damn romantic storylines -- longing. As Nathan stood off to the side watching and listening to Maggie & Melanie discuss Mickey & Maggie and Melanie & Philip, you could simply see so many emotions in Nathan's eyes -- mourning Mickey, admiration of Mickey/Maggie together, and longing for Melanie (along with realization that she was lost to him due to Philip). Damnit if today didn't make me a Nathan/Melanie shipper.
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Jan 11 2010, 10:35 PM
Another thing I liked about Hapka today is that I *finally* got what I keep missing from these damn romantic storylines -- longing. As Nathan stood off to the side watching and listening to Maggie & Melanie discuss Mickey & Maggie and Melanie & Philip, you could simply see so many emotions in Nathan's eyes -- mourning Mickey, admiration of Mickey/Maggie together, and longing for Melanie (along with realization that she was lost to him due to Philip). Damnit if today didn't make me a Nathan/Melanie shipper.
No matter what Nathan does, no matter how well-written he is and no matter how sincere Mark Hapka is in his scenes, I just can't take him seriously. Everytime I see him on the screen, all I picture is him grabbing his crotch and singing "there's a herpe on my dick!"
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Kenny
Jan 11 2010, 10:39 PM
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Jan 11 2010, 10:35 PM
Another thing I liked about Hapka today is that I *finally* got what I keep missing from these damn romantic storylines -- longing. As Nathan stood off to the side watching and listening to Maggie & Melanie discuss Mickey & Maggie and Melanie & Philip, you could simply see so many emotions in Nathan's eyes -- mourning Mickey, admiration of Mickey/Maggie together, and longing for Melanie (along with realization that she was lost to him due to Philip). Damnit if today didn't make me a Nathan/Melanie shipper.
No matter what Nathan does, no matter how well-written he is and no matter how sincere Mark Hapka is in his scenes, I just can't take him seriously. Everytime I see him on the screen, all I picture is him grabbing his crotch and singing "there's a herpe on my dick!"
W-wha?! :huh1:
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Matt - today I felt like a Melanie/Nathan shipper too. Or it could be because I want to see Nathan in a relationship but NOT with Stephanie. He's too good for her annoying ass!

Just wanted to say that 50 year old Peter Reckell can give all of those 20 somethings a run for their money in the hot body department. PR still got it!
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Jan 11 2010, 10:43 PM


Just wanted to say that 50 year old Peter Reckell can give all of those 20 somethings a run for their money in the hot body department. PR still got it!
Could not agree more. Peter is HOT and sexy and knows how to use his body.
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Jan 11 2010, 10:42 PM
Kenny
Jan 11 2010, 10:39 PM
Matt
Jan 11 2010, 10:35 PM
Another thing I liked about Hapka today is that I *finally* got what I keep missing from these damn romantic storylines -- longing. As Nathan stood off to the side watching and listening to Maggie & Melanie discuss Mickey & Maggie and Melanie & Philip, you could simply see so many emotions in Nathan's eyes -- mourning Mickey, admiration of Mickey/Maggie together, and longing for Melanie (along with realization that she was lost to him due to Philip). Damnit if today didn't make me a Nathan/Melanie shipper.
No matter what Nathan does, no matter how well-written he is and no matter how sincere Mark Hapka is in his scenes, I just can't take him seriously. Everytime I see him on the screen, all I picture is him grabbing his crotch and singing "there's a herpe on my dick!"
W-wha?! :huh1:
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Jan 11 2010, 10:43 PM
Matt - today I felt like a Melanie/Nathan shipper too. Or it could be because I want to see Nathan in a relationship but NOT with Stephanie. He's too good for her annoying ass!

Just wanted to say that 50 year old Peter Reckell can give all of those 20 somethings a run for their money in the hot body department. PR still got it!
Its nice to see characters over 40 getting love scenes.This would never happen on GH.
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Jan 11 2010, 10:35 PM
Another thing I liked about Hapka today is that I *finally* got what I keep missing from these damn romantic storylines -- longing. As Nathan stood off to the side watching and listening to Maggie & Melanie discuss Mickey & Maggie and Melanie & Philip, you could simply see so many emotions in Nathan's eyes -- mourning Mickey, admiration of Mickey/Maggie together, and longing for Melanie (along with realization that she was lost to him due to Philip). Damnit if today didn't make me a Nathan/Melanie shipper.
I agree completely. That is why I bought them as a long-term couple for the first time today. That special something was there and it was the longing for each other.

I still don't get how the hell the Maggie/Melanie scenes were more about Melanie then Maggie. Melanie sought Maggie out in the kitchen to apologize. They talked about how Mickey's death happened. Maggie mentioned things like the dishes Mickey hadn't washed and his keys and the sports page. Melanie then recalled how Mickey loved sports. The subject did not turn to anything Melanie related until MAGGIE HERSELF brought up Melanie having supposed to have been gone. Melanie then made mention of how that was not important and basically said what was going on with her was trivial to what Maggie was going through. Maggie then advised her to make every minute count and to marry the man she loves and that advise was driven by her own loss. Seriously, where was all the Melanie-only focus? The focus was on Mickey and Maggie's relationship through Melanie's eyes and on the Maggie/Melanie relationship. As Jane said, more current viewers know her so hearing her talk about it with Maggie makes it more meaningful for viewers who never saw him. She lives with them so it's a beat that had to be played.

Nonetheless, there was not a mention of anything involving Melanie or her issues until the very end and Maggie brought it up and that lasted like one minute. That's it. I don't get it at all. Both actresses did a fine job. Their real-life relationship was evident. The focus was on Maggie's grief and the writers wisely tied it in with Melanie's current story a bit with Maggie's advice and Nathan overhearing. That is good writing.

Melanie and Maggie care about each other. She's like a daughter to her. Same with Mia. Their scenes made perfect sense today. Maggie's situation was in no way tossed aside for Melanie pimping. It was all about Maggie and Mickey.

I should also say to that I hope we get more Melanie/Arianna friendship scenes. I enjoyed those.
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More and more (especially after seeing Ari nearly strangled by the long, stringy hide of a muppet today) I'm wondering whether the costume designer found an amazing clearance sale on scarves somewhere. You could play a drinking game with DAYS and scarves. Of course, some days you'd be drunk before the show was over. The use of scarves almost boarders on performance art. Oh. Wait. "Performance Art" is another daytime show. :P
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cassie1013


Just finished watching Monday's show.

I think this Mickey story is a mess. It's too bad. Yes, some of the scenes are good, but there's sooo many issues holding the story back from its full potential. Firstly, for those who haven't been watching years and years - the changing image of Mickey is confusing. What if you started watching 5 years ago and only knew the last 2 recasts? Not seeing Mickey, as I suspected, is hurting this story. The other problem is that everything is happening 'all of a sudden' and in the same day. Suzanne is good, but I felt the scenes were unrealistic. You wouldn't be that calm if your husband just died - SUDDENLY - 2 hours ago. The way she was reminiscing about Mickey already really put me off.

And where the fuck is Hope? Bitch, your effin' uncle died - get yo' ass over there...again! SO stupid that the writers had her leave. Everything kind of fell flat the moment Maggie was spending time with Melanie and Nathan. Not to bash newer characters, but in a pivotal story - killing off a LEGACY character - they become the weak links due to lack of history. Having Hope there initially was great, but she should have also been there with Melanie, Nathan, Doug and Julie. And WTF to Mickey's text message? Again - SO STUPID! Totally took me out of the moment. It was nice seeing Julie, though. Susan always captures my attention on screen.

I posted some comments on Barly sex in last weeks thread. The old porno music was worse than this, but the music was pretty bad. It took me right out of the scene. Definitely not the hottest scene on this show (on the Kate/Nicholas, Lexie/Brandon, John/Hope level - all of which were supposed to be trashy sex sooo...). It definitely came off as comfort sex with an ex to me. No offense, but I don't know how anyone could watch that scene - part of it at least - with a straight face. When it looked like Bo was taking it from behind with a strap on, I burst out laughing - again (second time watching)! It was sexy, but that was it. CC is kind of blah - she's hot but not. Her limp hair and overall drab look (not her fault) are distracting, along with her huge boobs.

Vivian - ah! Love it! She's so deliciously camp - I'm rewatching some of '99/00 right now, and when she said the line "our little friend's dirty little secret" it reminded me of the good ol' days! Viv and Vic are too awesome.

The only problem I see with this Carly story is a lot is revolving around her right now, but I feel like when Carly is actually on screen she doesn't deliver to the expectations of how other characters describe her. I don't want to say she falls flat, but she kind of does. Vivian, Victor and flashback-Lawrence make her sound like some crazy, slutty bitch but she's not really. It was these sorts of storylines that confused me when I was younger (like Sami saying she wanted Austin over and over, but Lucus was the rooting interest - didn't clue in for the longest time, lol). It's starting to annoy me.

I laughed out loud when Melanie came to see Ari with her wedding dress. What a bafoon. These two idiots should NOT be getting married... the rush just shows that they aren't thinking anything through.

Oh, and to answer my WhereTF is Hope, Tuesday's show looks awesome! LOL to Hope calling Bo while he's in bed with Carly! This is why I watch soaps... can't wait to watch!

Edit: spelling error! :)
Edited by cassie1013, Jan 12 2010, 12:57 AM.
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Jan 12 2010, 12:56 AM
Just finished watching Monday's show.

I think this Mickey story is a mess. It's too bad. Yes, some of the scenes are good, but there's sooo many issues holding the story back from its full potential. Firstly, for those who haven't been watching years and years - the changing image of Mickey is confusing. What if you started watching 5 years ago and only knew the last 2 recasts? Not seeing Mickey, as I suspected, is hurting this story. The other problem is that everything is happening 'all of a sudden' and in the same day. Suzanne is good, but I felt the scenes were unrealistic. You wouldn't be that calm if your husband just died - SUDDENLY - 2 hours ago. The way she was reminiscing about Mickey already really put me off.

And where the fuck is Hope? Bitch, your effin' uncle died - get yo' ass over there...again! SO stupid that the writers had her leave. Everything kind of fell flat the moment Maggie was spending time with Melanie and Nathan. Not to bash newer characters, but in a pivotal story - killing off a LEGACY character - they become the weak links due to lack of history. Having Hope there initially was great, but she should have also been there with Melanie, Nathan, Doug and Julie. And WTF to Mickey's text message? Again - SO STUPID! Totally took me out of the moment. It was nice seeing Julie, though. Susan always captures my attention on screen.

How is Maggie calm? She falls apart constantly. She fell apart upon seeing the text. She fell apart describing when she found him. She fell apart when Melanie said what she said. She was emotional in her scenes with Melanie and fell apart again in Nathan's arms on her way out. She then fell apart again upon realizing the text got deleted. It's not like she's skipping around, acting like nothing happened.

As for Hope, she went to tell her frail grandmother that her son died. If that isn't a reason not to be there, I don't know what is. She wouldn't just tell her and leave her. If Frances was able, I'm sure we would've seen the scenes where Hope tells her and the fallout from those.

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Jan 12 2010, 01:07 AM
cassie1013
Jan 12 2010, 12:56 AM
Just finished watching Monday's show.

I think this Mickey story is a mess. It's too bad. Yes, some of the scenes are good, but there's sooo many issues holding the story back from its full potential. Firstly, for those who haven't been watching years and years - the changing image of Mickey is confusing. What if you started watching 5 years ago and only knew the last 2 recasts? Not seeing Mickey, as I suspected, is hurting this story. The other problem is that everything is happening 'all of a sudden' and in the same day. Suzanne is good, but I felt the scenes were unrealistic. You wouldn't be that calm if your husband just died - SUDDENLY - 2 hours ago. The way she was reminiscing about Mickey already really put me off.

And where the fuck is Hope? Bitch, your effin' uncle died - get yo' ass over there...again! SO stupid that the writers had her leave. Everything kind of fell flat the moment Maggie was spending time with Melanie and Nathan. Not to bash newer characters, but in a pivotal story - killing off a LEGACY character - they become the weak links due to lack of history. Having Hope there initially was great, but she should have also been there with Melanie, Nathan, Doug and Julie. And WTF to Mickey's text message? Again - SO STUPID! Totally took me out of the moment. It was nice seeing Julie, though. Susan always captures my attention on screen.

How is Maggie calm? She falls apart constantly. She fell apart upon seeing the text. She fell apart describing when she found him. She fell apart when Melanie said what she said. She was emotional in her scenes with Melanie and fell apart again in Nathan's arms on her way out. She then fell apart again upon realizing the text got deleted. It's not like she's skipping around, acting like nothing happened.

As for Hope, she went to tell her frail grandmother that her son died. If that isn't a reason not to be there, I don't know what is. She wouldn't just tell her and leave her. If Frances was able, I'm sure we would've seen the scenes where Hope tells her and the fallout from those.

But the fact she could walk around and function, having conversations - like the one with Melanie, in particular - was odd to me. I get this is a soap, but that sort of stuff would come in the next couple days. If you just found out your husband died, suddenly - wouldn't you be in a state of emotional shock?! Where you would just sit on a couch, and can't believe what just happened?

The falling apart was fine, too, but again, the way it was happening - with Maggie walking all around, interacting - was just weird. It was like Mickey died a few days ago and not like, an hour ago.

They could have had Hope tell Gran off screen. I missed not seeing her in today's ep, especially since she's a key character and a Horton.
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Jan 11 2010, 10:34 PM
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Jan 11 2010, 10:22 PM
I agree with what Matt said about it being very in character for Maggie to take in Melanie and Mia.
I agree, but I find it sad that Maggie has all these unrelated people floating in and out of her house (Mia, Melanie, Carly, etc.) while there are hardly any Hortons to be seen. When I see Maggie these days, she kind of reminds me of those sad old cat ladies. No friends, no (real) family to visit with -- just an endless number of stray kitty cats that she takes care of because she has no one else. It's really kind of depressing, LoL.

WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL THE HORTONS?!
I'll second that.

And to "Where the hell are all the Horton's" - I think that's why bugged me about Hope not being in today's episode. In general, though, there's not enough Horton's. I'm missing Alice more than ever. She brought this certain charm to the show that I always loved growing up - I kind of felt like she was my grandma, too, lol. I feel horrible about Frances Reid - I know she's old now, but it's still sad. :(
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Jan 12 2010, 01:14 AM
But the fact she could walk around and function, having conversations - like the one with Melanie, in particular - was odd to me. I get this is a soap, but that sort of stuff would come in the next couple days. If you just found out your husband died, suddenly - wouldn't you be in a state of emotional shock?! Where you would just sit on a couch, and can't believe what just happened?

The falling apart was fine, too, but again, the way it was happening - with Maggie walking all around, interacting - was just weird. It was like Mickey died a few days ago and not like, an hour ago.
Yep.

I have the same complaints with this story that you do.
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