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SOD: February Sweeps Preview
Topic Started: Jan 19 2010, 09:52 PM (17,404 Views)
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Paxton
Jan 20 2010, 08:20 PM
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Jan 20 2010, 08:14 PM
Sorry Paxton, I didn't mean to offend & I wasn't trying at all to negate or not say that he didn't loved Nicole when they were together. But I do think they have always kept a subtext running about his "feelings" for Samantha. Maybe that's just acting choices, but they're there.

As you can see from my op, I'm in no way convinced on where they're going with this either, but I do think it will resolve the whole "will they, won't they" in terms of ejami for good (which means at least 18 months in soap terms).

I'm just happy for that to happen.
Sorry on my end--I think I have a fever and I was a little bitchy, looking back at my post. Didn't mean to be. It's funny that you say it's the acting choices, because I feel the exact opposite--I haven't seen JS sell me on any EJami love in two years. But, mileage varies, no big deal.

In a way I think you and I share the same frustration, which is the point I made earlier in this thread: we've seen this story before and it wasn't satisfying the first time around. Unless and until Sami decides she loves EJ, this is same old same old and in my opinion, it's a waste of JS and EJ. The reason I stopped liking EJami two years ago (well, a major reason anyway) was that I became convinced Sami didn't and never would love EJ. And now, two years later, after all the hideous crap that's gone down between them, it seems even less likely. But, hey, who knows? If they get together I'll just FF them, the world won't end for me. :P
You're right, we are on the same page re the frustration. In fact you're probably just 2 & 1/2 years ahead of me re ejami! :lol:

I've wondered if JS or the writers have included all the "touchy/feely" acts on EJ's part during the Sydnap? TThe whole cuddling her/smelling her hair when on the phone to the kidnapper didn't seem to fit EJ's "I hate Sami for what she's done to me" mentality. :shrug:
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It doesn't say who throws the bloody clothes in the river. What if (I know I'll get jumped on this) it will be Rafe? Rafe hates that Sami is beginning to trust EJ, and he doesn't like a woman with a mind, by the looks of it. Any time Sami shows she has a spine he walks off.

Sydney would be still with EJ when these clothes mysteriously show up in the water. What if Rafe will feel like a fallen hero and try to make Sami think that Sydney had died, and then in his mind there would be no connection between her and EJ anymore. Then EJ comes up with Sydney, and all blows up in Rafe's face. Now THAT would be a twist!
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Jan 20 2010, 08:23 PM
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Jan 20 2010, 01:14 AM
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Jan 20 2010, 12:48 AM
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Jan 20 2010, 12:38 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepEJ's feelings...who cares?
ITA, I think Nicole will remember the voice as Anna's and tell Chloe. Chloe then tells Brady and he comes to see Nicole in jail. She tells him that she doesnt want to ruin his relationship with Ariana, yada, yada, yada...but Brady really want to help!

Brady takes that info and gives it to Rafe. Rafe has other info and they put it together but dont tell Sami until they find where Anna hid EJ.

EJ to busy acting grieved and comforting Sami, all the while Sydney's getting sick. SuperRafe and Brady find Anna, who was going to take Syd to the doctors because she doesnt look well....and they take her to Salem..everyone is SHOCKED...Sydney's alive!

So Sydney's bloodwork is taken and a double shock- she's not Sami's but Nicoles...and that's how Nicole is freed!

TA-DAH! LOL.....Just speculating!LOL
The problem with this statement is the spoiler said Sami and Rafe are together, yay!... Strange enough I peered into my crystal ball and called this... The fake death, I said either they would kill her off, or it would be made to seem that way. People said that he would return the baby and be her hero. I said, no no, it doesn't fit, he doesn't seem to want to share this baby with Sami, no way, no how! He goes from torturing the town, Sami, Rafe, Brady, The Brady family.... yadda yadda yadda... with a fake kidnapping to a faked death who does he think he is Stefano! Maybe he'll take her to that island where the Brady's, Horton, & Devereaux's were being held when Marlena was shown to be a killer. Something else I called that the Sami/Rafe/EJ triangle would be all EJ concerning the triangle.... with EJ getting more and more obsessed with Sami. I now predict Sami to be kidnapped, womannapped... you get my drift.

So when does it stop, when does enough become enough... When does Sami stop deserving this!
I agree.
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-so he could play a major role here, as he doesn't want Sami with EJ. Maybe he will be the one to find out where Sydney is hidden and somehow, secretly, lead the FBI there to rescue Sydney. He doesn't want to be without his granddaughter and he already says he needs to teach Ej a lesson. i also agree with whoever said that Nicole will remember the voice she heard and Rafe will put it all together.
The truth is what would Stefano have to gain by making the baby seem dead, not his granddaughter... The only way that would happen is if Stefano left town and then he might as well paint a bullseye on his back. Stefano has shown us he wants to be able to spend time with his granddaughter. So what if, Stefano starts to see his sons strange reactions not want EJ near Sami, but knowing he will lose any visitation with Syd if EJ has her... he reaches out to the one person that can wedge between his son and his desire-- Rafe. Stefano helps to bring Syd home thus being a hero to Sami and gaining some papa points.
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^ You're right..you know you're going to get jumped on when you have a banner of Rafe and the brick?!LOL

Do you really want MORE Rafe involvement in this SL? I dont! Being superCop is enough for me!

Right now, IMO, EJ suspect #1, followed by Anna and Steffy close by! If KC had spoiled anything or even mentioned Steffy...Yes, he would move to #2, but EJ still has the most the gain by faking Syds death...EJ would probably say "a "death" for a "death" shit like that!
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Jan 20 2010, 08:30 PM
It doesn't say who throws the bloody clothes in the river. What if (I know I'll get jumped on this) it will be Rafe? Rafe hates that Sami is beginning to trust EJ, and he doesn't like a woman with a mind, by the looks of it. Any time Sami shows she has a spine he walks off.

Sydney would be still with EJ when these clothes mysteriously show up in the water. What if Rafe will feel like a fallen hero and try to make Sami think that Sydney had died, and then in his mind there would be no connection between her and EJ anymore. Then EJ comes up with Sydney, and all blows up in Rafe's face. Now THAT would be a twist!
I'm jumping, I'm jumping... Rafe may hate Sami trusting EJ. But Rafe doesn't hate Sami, he loves her. And in Feb. they are together. Why would Rafe want to torture the woman he's with? Why would Rafe want to make himself see like a bad agent. Why would Rafe do such a thing, in truth he's got no reason. I think we will see some dramatic Rafe moments.... screaming, hollaring, putting his fist through a wall or window, getting drunk or worse, and maybe even vomiting...
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Jan 20 2010, 08:53 PM
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Jan 20 2010, 08:23 PM
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Jan 20 2010, 01:14 AM
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Jan 20 2010, 12:48 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepEJ's EJ to busy acting grieved and comforting Sami, all the while Sydney's getting sick. SuperRafe and Brady find Anna, who was going to take Syd to the doctors because she doesnt look well....and they take her to Salem..everyone is SHOCKED...Sydney's alive!

So Sydney's bloodwork is taken and a double shock- she's not Sami's but Nicoles...and that's how Nicole is freed!

TA-DAH! LOL.....Just speculating!LOL
The problem with this statement is the spoiler said Sami and Rafe are together, yay!... Strange enough I peered into my crystal ball and called this... The fake death, I said either they would kill her off, or it would be made to seem that way. People said that he would return the baby and be her hero. I said, no no, it doesn't fit, he doesn't seem to want to share this baby with Sami, no way, no how! He goes from torturing the town, Sami, Rafe, Brady, The Brady family.... yadda yadda yadda... with a fake kidnapping to a faked death who does he think he is Stefano! Maybe he'll take her to that island where the Brady's, Horton, & Devereaux's were being held when Marlena was shown to be a killer. Something else I called that the Sami/Rafe/EJ triangle would be all EJ concerning the triangle.... with EJ getting more and more obsessed with Sami. I now predict Sami to be kidnapped, womannapped... you get my drift.

So when does it stop, when does enough become enough... When does Sami stop deserving this!
I agree.
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-so he could play a major role here, as he doesn't want Sami with EJ. Maybe he will be the one to find out where Sydney is hidden and somehow, secretly, lead the FBI there to rescue Sydney. He doesn't want to be without his granddaughter and he already says he needs to teach Ej a lesson. i also agree with whoever said that Nicole will remember the voice she heard and Rafe will put it all together.
The truth is what would Stefano have to gain by making the baby seem dead, not his granddaughter... The only way that would happen is if Stefano left town and then he might as well paint a bullseye on his back. Stefano has shown us he wants to be able to spend time with his granddaughter. So what if, Stefano starts to see his sons strange reactions not want EJ near Sami, but knowing he will lose any visitation with Syd if EJ has her... he reaches out to the one person that can wedge between his son and his desire-- Rafe. Stefano helps to bring Syd home thus being a hero to Sami and gaining some papa points.
It would totally fit Stefano's history and character to take Sydney and raise her far away from everyone who's been involved in her life, thus far. That's a standard page out of his playbook.
I sincerely doubt Stefano would ever get his mitts on Sydney and have the illusion that returning her to Sami would earn him any 'papa' points. And if he does think that...it will only prove that even Stefano has been sacrificed at the altar of Sarlena. :shame:

Stefano has made it clear that if he has his way he'll take Sydney away from both EJ and Sami. He despises Sami and has made it clear he'd like very much to cut her out of both Sydney and Johnny's lives. He's sorely disappointed in Elvis, as well, so this would be what Stefano would consider his just desserts.
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Jan 20 2010, 08:59 PM
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Jan 20 2010, 08:30 PM
It doesn't say who throws the bloody clothes in the river. What if (I know I'll get jumped on this) it will be Rafe? Rafe hates that Sami is beginning to trust EJ, and he doesn't like a woman with a mind, by the looks of it. Any time Sami shows she has a spine he walks off.

Sydney would be still with EJ when these clothes mysteriously show up in the water. What if Rafe will feel like a fallen hero and try to make Sami think that Sydney had died, and then in his mind there would be no connection between her and EJ anymore. Then EJ comes up with Sydney, and all blows up in Rafe's face. Now THAT would be a twist!
I'm jumping, I'm jumping... Rafe may hate Sami trusting EJ. But Rafe doesn't hate Sami, he loves her. And in Feb. they are together. Why would Rafe want to torture the woman he's with? Why would Rafe want to make himself see like a bad agent. Why would Rafe do such a thing, in truth he's got no reason. I think we will see some dramatic Rafe moments.... screaming, hollaring, putting his fist through a wall or window, getting drunk or worse, and maybe even vomiting...
Why? Because he's been painted as a superhero and when something (or someone) is too good to be true, they usually are. We still know nothing about him. As for him loving Sami, well, that's kind of been touched upon by other characters (his sister included) that they were worried "it wouldn't turn out like before", or something like that.... They left a lot of holes into this character, there is lots about him we don't know. We see it more and more that he is controlling - he commands people to do things "gimme your phones" "go home and wait for me" - do as I say attitude. He's not all that great, IMO, and he's too obsessed with being a hero.
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Jan 20 2010, 08:57 PM
^ You're right..you know you're going to get jumped on when you have a banner of Rafe and the brick?!LOL

Do you really want MORE Rafe involvement in this SL? I dont! Being superCop is enough for me!

Right now, IMO, EJ suspect #1, followed by Anna and Steffy close by! If KC had spoiled anything or even mentioned Steffy...Yes, he would move to #2, but EJ still has the most the gain by faking Syds death...EJ would probably say "a "death" for a "death" shit like that!
Giving Rafe an dark side would make him more interesting (in my eyes anyway. Soap villains = :wub2: ), so if he has to stay, Daisy's idea is the best use for him.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

kitkat
Jan 20 2010, 08:59 PM
I think we will see some dramatic Rafe moments.... screaming, hollaring, putting his fist through a wall or window, getting drunk or worse, and maybe even vomiting...
WTF??? Do I even want to know why you think we'd see such things?

No. Nevermind. I'm sure I don't.

Gawd...even the thought of seeing GG trying to muster up the chops to pull off any of that is painful. :'(
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Jan 20 2010, 08:57 PM
^ You're right..you know you're going to get jumped on when you have a banner of Rafe and the brick?!LOL

Do you really want MORE Rafe involvement in this SL? I dont! Being superCop is enough for me!

Right now, IMO, EJ suspect #1, followed by Anna and Steffy close by! If KC had spoiled anything or even mentioned Steffy...Yes, he would move to #2, but EJ still has the most the gain by faking Syds death...EJ would probably say "a "death" for a "death" shit like that!
I LOVE my Rafe and Brick banner!!! The true supercouple, don't you know... :laugh:
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Jan 20 2010, 06:29 PM
Given the propensity of the writing staff to throw "twists" into the story, I'm on the "Stefano kidnaps Sydney from Anna and EJ and fakes her death" train. EJ will start feeling guilty about keeping Sydney from Sami (since he's having "feelings" for her again). Just when he's about to bring Sydney home, Stefano finds Anna and he takes Sydney from her. The mad search ensues again, only to find the bloody clothes and have Sydney presumed dead. EJ feels wretchedly guilty, he and Sami bond during their mourning, Sami still blames Rafe, etc., etc. Then just as EJ and Sami are growing closer, Nicole remembers Anna which she tells Rafe which leads him to somehow find out about EJ's role in everything and, depending on whether the monkeys really are ready to end this story, also leads to Rafe finding Sydney.

If the show were really smart and/or was sure they had time, they'd have Stefano keep Sydney for years, then have her turn up all properly DiMera-fied and hating both her parents.
Exactly - this is what I see as the most likely scenario. I think the specific wording of the preview is ambivalent - Corday never states that EJ plants the bloody clothing:

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It could go either way at this point, but I agree that Stefano has been strangely quiet and nearly absent from the story of late - except for the comment here and there about teaching EJ a lesson from the master as well as his comments to Rafe about EJ being duplicitous.

It makes sense to me that the next 'big twist' (my new most hated word...right there with 'feelings', 'vendetta' and 'Stephanie') will be Stefano pulling off a Sydnapping...leaving EJ desperate, scared and guilt ridden. Much like we saw Nicole after Grace died. Thus begins the longer story arc - EJ and Sami developing a relationship while he's guilt ridden over his deceit.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
I phased out somewhere at the point where it said Sami is with Rafe. So EJ starts having feelings, who cares? And if Sydney went missing EJ would start freaking out and everybody would grow suspicious. What is so wrong with EJ being evil, I mean think about it, either way it's EJ's fault. If EJ would have never taken that baby from Nicole, she would have returned her to Sami and him. If Stefano takes that baby, it's EJ's fault. And I don't think Sami would ever forgive him... Doesn't really matter if EJ did this, cause even if he didn't it was his own selfishness that put her in this postion. He could have called the police, he could have went there himself. He could have sent one of his men, he could have demanded full custody....
I'm not sure what your point is in the context of what we're discussing. I like EJ being a bad ass so I didn't say anything was wrong with it. But planting bloody clothes and allowing people to think Sydney died isn't bad ass...and it doesn't get him what I would think his ultimate goal would be. I can't imagine he intends to hide Sydney forever - what about Johnny? Is he going to raise his children completely independent of one another? Never have them interact? That seems odd to me. And if he is indeed recognizing that he still loves Sami I don't see how it helps him to then have her believe Sydney is gone. If he hated her, maybe. But even then, there would still be the issue with Johnny.

No doubt EJ has plenty of blame to carry regardless of how it happens. As do many of the other characters in the story - Nicole and Sami, in particular. Whether any of them end up forgiving each other down the road is up to the writers. But just as they had the audience recognize that along the way Nicole came to regret her actions and felt remorse, I suspect that EJ having Sydney stolen out from under him and then facing the fear that she truly could have been hurt or killed will give the writers the opportunity to show the same thing with him.
Who said he has to stay in Salem, he gets his daughter out of there and cuts out (this being plan ideal 1). He is trying to drive Sami into the luni bin, gaining custody of both children ( this being plan ideal 2), He being a selfish bastard, and proving Sydney will be his (this being plan ideal 3). And my point in no matter the scenerio, not the picture the spoiler paints or some one's speculation of what it doesn't say does EJ ever get to be the victim. Not the towns and not his father, if daddy did do it, he's simply reaping what he sowed. And then maybe justice will come to EJ DiMera, but either way Sami is screwed.
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It could go either way at this point, but I agree that Stefano has been strangely quiet and nearly absent from the story of late - except for the comment here and there about teaching EJ a lesson from the master as well as his comments to Rafe about EJ being duplicitous.

It makes sense to me that the next 'big twist' (my new most hated word...right there with 'feelings', 'vendetta' and 'Stephanie') will be Stefano pulling off a Sydnapping...leaving EJ desperate, scared and guilt ridden. Much like we saw Nicole after Grace died. Thus begins the longer story arc - EJ and Sami developing a relationship while he's guilt ridden over his deceit.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
I phased out somewhere at the point where it said Sami is with Rafe. So EJ starts having feelings, who cares? And if Sydney went missing EJ would start freaking out and everybody would grow suspicious. What is so wrong with EJ being evil, I mean think about it, either way it's EJ's fault. If EJ would have never taken that baby from Nicole, she would have returned her to Sami and him. If Stefano takes that baby, it's EJ's fault. And I don't think Sami would ever forgive him... Doesn't really matter if EJ did this, cause even if he didn't it was his own selfishness that put her in this postion. He could have called the police, he could have went there himself. He could have sent one of his men, he could have demanded full custody....
I'm not sure what your point is in the context of what we're discussing. I like EJ being a bad ass so I didn't say anything was wrong with it. But planting bloody clothes and allowing people to think Sydney died isn't bad ass...and it doesn't get him what I would think his ultimate goal would be. I can't imagine he intends to hide Sydney forever - what about Johnny? Is he going to raise his children completely independent of one another? Never have them interact? That seems odd to me. And if he is indeed recognizing that he still loves Sami I don't see how it helps him to then have her believe Sydney is gone. If he hated her, maybe. But even then, there would still be the issue with Johnny.

No doubt EJ has plenty of blame to carry regardless of how it happens. As do many of the other characters in the story - Nicole and Sami, in particular. Whether any of them end up forgiving each other down the road is up to the writers. But just as they had the audience recognize that along the way Nicole came to regret her actions and felt remorse, I suspect that EJ having Sydney stolen out from under him and then facing the fear that she truly could have been hurt or killed will give the writers the opportunity to show the same thing with him.
Who said he has to stay in Salem, he gets his daughter out of there and cuts out (this being plan ideal 1). He is trying to drive Sami into the luni bin, gaining custody of both children ( this being plan ideal 2), He being a selfish bastard, and proving Sydney will be his (this being plan ideal 3). And my point in no matter the scenerio, not the picture the spoiler paints or some one's speculation of what it doesn't say does EJ ever get to be the victim. Not the towns and not his father, if daddy did do it, he's simply reaping what he sowed. And then maybe justice will come to EJ DiMera, but either way Sami is screwed.
The issue with your #1 plan is I don't see EJ cutting out of there without Johnny. So that's out.
#2 - if he's finding he has feelings for her again, per the preview, why would he try to drive her in to the 'luni' bin to gain custody of the kids? That doesn't jive.
I have no idea what you are talking about with #3 - why would he need to prove Sydney is or will be his?

I never said EJ will be a victim, anymore than Sami is. If Sami had never hidden her pregnancy in the first place none of this would have happened. There are all sorts of what ifs and second guesses about the story - but the bottom line is none of them are innocents in the whole thing.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepEJ's EJ to busy acting grieved and comforting Sami,
I agree.
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-so he could play a major role here, as he doesn't want Sami with EJ. Maybe he will be the one to find out where Sydney is hidden and somehow, secretly, lead the FBI there to rescue Sydney. He doesn't want to be without his granddaughter and he already says he needs to teach Ej a lesson. i also agree with whoever said that Nicole will remember the voice she heard and Rafe will put it all together.
The truth is what would Stefano have to gain by making the baby seem dead, not his granddaughter... The only way that would happen is if Stefano left town and then he might as well paint a bullseye on his back. Stefano has shown us he wants to be able to spend time with his granddaughter. So what if, Stefano starts to see his sons strange reactions not want EJ near Sami, but knowing he will lose any visitation with Syd if EJ has her... he reaches out to the one person that can wedge between his son and his desire-- Rafe. Stefano helps to bring Syd home thus being a hero to Sami and gaining some papa points.
It would totally fit Stefano's history and character to take Sydney and raise her far away from everyone who's been involved in her life, thus far. That's a standard page out of his playbook.
I sincerely doubt Stefano would ever get his mitts on Sydney and have the illusion that returning her to Sami would earn him any 'papa' points. And if he does think that...it will only prove that even Stefano has been sacrificed at the altar of Sarlena. :shame:

Stefano has made it clear that if he has his way he'll take Sydney away from both EJ and Sami. He despises Sami and has made it clear he'd like very much to cut her out of both Sydney and Johnny's lives. He's sorely disappointed in Elvis, as well, so this would be what Stefano would consider his just desserts.
The thing is this might be the Stefano of yester year, but not the one of today. He's married and he loves his wife. He even reached out to Anna, because of his grief over the loss of his son. But I think it would earn him those points, this is a man that hired a guy to kill Rafe. And then turned around and reached out to him with a word of advice. He seems to now support Safe, and he doesn't want EJAMI. So why go with the camp that could possibly give him moment with Syd.
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I'm not sure what your point is in the context of what we're discussing. I like EJ being a bad ass so I didn't say anything was wrong with it. But planting bloody clothes and allowing people to think Sydney died isn't bad ass...and it doesn't get him what I would think his ultimate goal would be. I can't imagine he intends to hide Sydney forever - what about Johnny? Is he going to raise his children completely independent of one another? Never have them interact? That seems odd to me. And if he is indeed recognizing that he still loves Sami I don't see how it helps him to then have her believe Sydney is gone. If he hated her, maybe. But even then, there would still be the issue with Johnny.

No doubt EJ has plenty of blame to carry regardless of how it happens. As do many of the other characters in the story - Nicole and Sami, in particular. Whether any of them end up forgiving each other down the road is up to the writers. But just as they had the audience recognize that along the way Nicole came to regret her actions and felt remorse, I suspect that EJ having Sydney stolen out from under him and then facing the fear that she truly could have been hurt or killed will give the writers the opportunity to show the same thing with him.
Who said he has to stay in Salem, he gets his daughter out of there and cuts out (this being plan ideal 1). He is trying to drive Sami into the luni bin, gaining custody of both children ( this being plan ideal 2), He being a selfish bastard, and proving Sydney will be his (this being plan ideal 3). And my point in no matter the scenerio, not the picture the spoiler paints or some one's speculation of what it doesn't say does EJ ever get to be the victim. Not the towns and not his father, if daddy did do it, he's simply reaping what he sowed. And then maybe justice will come to EJ DiMera, but either way Sami is screwed.
The issue with your #1 plan is I don't see EJ cutting out of there without Johnny. So that's out.
#2 - if he's finding he has feelings for her again, per the preview, why would he try to drive her in to the 'luni' bin to gain custody of the kids? That doesn't jive.
I have no idea what you are talking about with #3 - why would he need to prove Sydney is or will be his?

I never said EJ will be a victim, anymore than Sami is. If Sami had never hidden her pregnancy in the first place none of this would have happened. There are all sorts of what ifs and second guesses about the story - but the bottom line is none of them are innocents in the whole thing.
So maybe he cuts out with Johnny, goes for visitation, says he gonna take Johnny so and so then departs. Or maybe he tells Sami he wants to spend time with Johnny, in the loss of Sydney and he's gone. And with the second one maybe that is his plan, his feelings are conflicted, thus causing the arc. That is what he has told Anna and that baby over and over again, that he will raise Sydney himself... all is needed is him screaming she's mine, she's mine. And Sami losing two babies... shit, even the worse mother in Salem-- hell on earth doesn't deserve that. Not like this, I mean the ideal of bloody clothes, the ideal someone cut or shot her baby... how does any woman get pass that...
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What if he didnt plan to hide her forever and it was just to torture EJ. Punish him for keeping his granddaughter away from him. EJ would have a complete mental break down if he thought Sidney was dead. The guilt alone would destroy him. To Stefano this would be karma. I see EJ wanting to off himself if something bad happened to Sidney. He is already on edge as it is and that would push him over.
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Jan 20 2010, 09:27 PM
What if he didnt plan to hide her forever and it was just to torture EJ. Punish him for keeping his granddaughter away from him. EJ would have a complete mental break down if he thought Sidney was dead. The guilt alone would destroy him. To Stefano this would be karma. I see EJ wanting to off himself if something bad happened to Sidney. He is already on edge as it is and that would push him over.
This just sounds like speculation to throw Stefano under the bus so EJ isn't under it, and maybe this is a last minute decision on EJ's part so everybody will stop looking.
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So now EJs suicidal..please DiMeras are never that way!

Bottom line...Sami is the one being toyed with....screwed over by EJ/Steffy..AGAIN....not a love story...torture...torture..torture!

Is EJ going to put her in a cage and call her "the queen of the night?" LOL

She no fuckin catch and I would never understand why EJ wastes his time!

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Jan 20 2010, 08:20 PM
It's funny that you say it's the acting choices, because I feel the exact opposite--I haven't seen JS sell me on any EJami love in two years. But, mileage varies, no big deal.

In a way I think you and I share the same frustration, which is the point I made earlier in this thread: we've seen this story before and it wasn't satisfying the first time around. Unless and until Sami decides she loves EJ, this is same old same old and in my opinion, it's a waste of JS and EJ. The reason I stopped liking EJami two years ago (well, a major reason anyway) was that I became convinced Sami didn't and never would love EJ. And now, two years later, after all the hideous crap that's gone down between them, it seems even less likely. But, hey, who knows? If they get together I'll just FF them, the world won't end for me. :P
Count me in sharing the same frustration!

EJ chasing Sami or shocked that he has feelings for her (me too, dude) or trying to be around her to comfort her while SHE IS IN LOVE WITH ANOTHER MAN has been done and is so tired and an embarassment to EJ's character...that a gorgeous, suave, rich man is pining for the dimwit who doesn't want him. That's pathetic!

It's kind of laughable, especially as he is torturing her the way he is. But hey, if that is the only kind of wub that they can have, fine by me. I'll get my FF on too! :)
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Jan 20 2010, 09:49 PM


EJ chasing Sami or shocked that he has feelings for her (me too, dude) or trying to be around her to comfort her while SHE IS IN LOVE WITH ANOTHER MAN has been done and is so tired and an embarassment to EJ's character...that a gorgeous, suave, rich man is pining for the dimwit who doesn't want him. That's pathetic!

It's kind of laughable, especially as he is torturing her the way he is. But hey, if that is the only kind of wub that they can have, fine by me. I'll get my FF on too! :)


Then dollars to donuts you getting my fucking frustration and rage about Philip, only with Philip this is the third...count 'em THIRD triangle he has been on the losing end of and this time with a 19 yrold and a guy who's been in Salem half a second and dated said girl half a minute. It makes me want to wretch and I'm probably going to now that I think of it.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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Jan 20 2010, 09:27 PM
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Jan 20 2010, 07:26 PM

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Who said he has to stay in Salem, he gets his daughter out of there and cuts out (this being plan ideal 1). He is trying to drive Sami into the luni bin, gaining custody of both children ( this being plan ideal 2), He being a selfish bastard, and proving Sydney will be his (this being plan ideal 3). And my point in no matter the scenerio, not the picture the spoiler paints or some one's speculation of what it doesn't say does EJ ever get to be the victim. Not the towns and not his father, if daddy did do it, he's simply reaping what he sowed. And then maybe justice will come to EJ DiMera, but either way Sami is screwed.
The issue with your #1 plan is I don't see EJ cutting out of there without Johnny. So that's out.
#2 - if he's finding he has feelings for her again, per the preview, why would he try to drive her in to the 'luni' bin to gain custody of the kids? That doesn't jive.
I have no idea what you are talking about with #3 - why would he need to prove Sydney is or will be his?

I never said EJ will be a victim, anymore than Sami is. If Sami had never hidden her pregnancy in the first place none of this would have happened. There are all sorts of what ifs and second guesses about the story - but the bottom line is none of them are innocents in the whole thing.
So maybe he cuts out with Johnny, goes for visitation, says he gonna take Johnny so and so then departs. Or maybe he tells Sami he wants to spend time with Johnny, in the loss of Sydney and he's gone. And with the second one maybe that is his plan, his feelings are conflicted, thus causing the arc. That is what he has told Anna and that baby over and over again, that he will raise Sydney himself... all is needed is him screaming she's mine, she's mine. And Sami losing two babies... shit, even the worse mother in Salem-- hell on earth doesn't deserve that. Not like this, I mean the ideal of bloody clothes, the ideal someone cut or shot her baby... how does any woman get pass that...
Or maybe he wakes up one day...sees he's being a right bastard to Sami....crawls to her on his hands and knees and begs her forgiveness...she realizes just how much he loves her and always has and realizes that she feels exactly the same way. And they live happily ever after...

We can both speculate til the cows come home. The one I posted above sounds about as plausible to me as Stefano kidnapping Sydney away from EJ in order to turn her over to Sami in the hopes of gaining 'papa points'. :lol: Or the idea that Stefano has developed a soft spot for Rafe and is now giving him fatherly advice about EJ and Sami growing closer - just because he thinks Rafe is a swell guy? Stefano doesn't give a shit about Rafe...he just wants Sami out of EJ's orbit. Any move he makes will be against Sami and to try to gain control of his 'heir'. Having him hand her over to Sami in the hopes she'll be a-okay with Grandpa Lecter getting some cuddle time is a hoot. :D
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