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SOD: February Sweeps Preview
Topic Started: Jan 19 2010, 09:52 PM (17,408 Views)
sungrey


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Jan 20 2010, 08:16 AM
I think it's funny how everyone here complains about the baby story being dragged on and at the same time in the "Days of our Un-SORASed Lives" thread people are praising the show for how they had stories going on for years and years. The Baby Switch took place one year ago, but we could say the whole baby saga started in summer 08 when EJ planted his seeds in Scami and Nicole. But some fans already complained about the story being dragged out last April during EJ and Nicole's wedding. It just shows how the mentality has changed for the majority of soap viewers the past decade.
Well said! Well done!

Ya, Days was a half hour back then, but consider this... Mickey had a stroke in the summer of 1973 and wandered away from Salem to Maggie's farm. He didn't get his memory back until 1976. The paternity of Mike Horton was a secret kept for SEVEN years.

As Agnes Nixon once said, "make em wait". If it's a good enough story with a huge climax, it's worth it.
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Mason


sungrey
Jan 20 2010, 01:46 PM
Ya, Days was a half hour back then, but consider this... Mickey had a stroke in the summer of 1973 and wandered away from Salem to Maggie's farm. He didn't get his memory back until 1976. The paternity of Mike Horton was a secret kept for SEVEN years.
You're forgetting one crucial thing: Writers back then actually knew what the hell they were doing, LoL.
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Kenny
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sungrey
Jan 20 2010, 01:46 PM
The paternity of Mike Horton was a secret kept for SEVEN years.

As Agnes Nixon once said, "make em wait". If it's a good enough story with a huge climax, it's worth it.
Sydney's kidnapping isn't a good story though. That's the problem. It's boring. It's lost its steam. Nobody is interested anymore. And I'm sure the climax won't be worth the wait.

It also doesn't help that it's being played almost every single day. I wasn't watching back when the secret of Mike's paternity was playing out but I'd be willing to bet it wasn't a front-burner story every single day for seven straight years. I'm sure it was pushed to the back burner every once in a while so all the other stories could get some play. In fact, Mike's paternity probably wasn't revealed for seven years somewhat by default.
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Does anyone think when Steph goes dark...she'll tag team Philip to keep Mate apart..? :lol:
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sungrey


Kenny
Jan 20 2010, 01:51 PM
sungrey
Jan 20 2010, 01:46 PM
The paternity of Mike Horton was a secret kept for SEVEN years.

As Agnes Nixon once said, "make em wait". If it's a good enough story with a huge climax, it's worth it.
Sydney's kidnapping isn't a good story though. That's the problem. It's boring. It's lost its steam. Nobody is interested anymore. And I'm sure the climax won't be worth the wait.

It also doesn't help that it's being played almost every single day. I wasn't watching back when the secret of Mike's paternity was playing out but I'd be willing to bet it wasn't a front-burner story every single day for seven straight years. I'm sure it was pushed to the back burner every once in a while so all the other stories could get some play. In fact, Mike's paternity probably wasn't revealed for seven years somewhat by default.
Kenny and Mason, no arguments from me there. The writer for the start of the Bill/Laura/Mickey triangle was Bill Bell, and the Mickey amnesia story was Pat Falken Smith's handiwork. Enough said. :)
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sungrey
Jan 20 2010, 01:46 PM
As Agnes Nixon once said, "make em wait". If it's a good enough story with a huge climax, it's worth it.
But therein lies the rub. The story has to be good and it has to make sense. Up until now, it mostly has, but I honestly have to wonder about EJ's future as a character after reading this latest preview. I mean, maybe it sounds silly to say that after the zip code directory of felonies that EJesus has never paid for in the slightest, but this latest is just amazingly cruel. I seem to remember a lot of posts about how irredeemable Nicole was and how unforgiveable her actions were in letting EJ grieve over a child that wasn't his--I assume I'm going to start seeing those types of posts re: EJ because keeping a child hidden and then making everyone including her mother think she's dead all so he can have the child all to himself--WTF? It's the throwing in of these new and undefined "feelings" for Sami that make this make no sense whatsoever because if he really did love her, care for her or feel any sincere guilt or remorse, he'd tell her that her child was safe, alive and well and bring her to Sydney. Right? I mean, that's what I was told Nicole should have done--told EJ the truth--a point I never disputed--and nobody would be suffering. True love would overcome and all that.

But I think the major reason this story seems to have run out of steam was the odd pacing of it, probably due to AZ's pregnancy and planning for her maternity leave. We went months and months with nothing that qualified as a "twist" with the same old repetitive crap over and over and over. Then, October hits, the first secret's out, then the whole thing, then the Sydnapping, then the second Sydnapping, then EJ's the mastermind, and we're still unclear as to his motives. And also, this story was told from Nicole's point of view for over a year. They haven't put nearly the time and effort into explaning anybody else's emotions and motivations as they did with her, so the story suffers because we don't know why Sami is such a moron as to trust EJ and we don't know why EJ would decide he has "feelings" for Sami again at the same time as he's torturing her.
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All I can say is Melanie's letter better say she wants to be happy with Philip because I'm not sitting through another Philip is second choice story I am aware there is an off button on my tv {or computer as it were} if they play the old Melanie writes Nathan a letter saying it is him she truly loves {contrary to the past year we have seen of course}and she won't go through with the wedding if he responds in kind and Stephanie finds the letter only to destroy it or keep it thus a)being the only reason Melanie goes through with the wedding and b)leading the letter to be found down the road by a heartbroken Philip who does that same stupid life-support shit his egghead of a brother Lucas did then I am peacing out of this candy ass show! If there is any chance that Melanie would rather be with Nathan than with Philip {once again contrary to the past 5months} then why in hell would she be going through with it, certainly no one is putting a gun to her head, further to the point if she's so conflicted about it why is she even dating Philip in the first place? Why doesn't she just trot right back to that dullard Nathan. Grrrrr Phelanie angry! I can deal with Mate {not that I want to} but not at the expense of all the Phelanie chemistry and characterization and {may I point out} Philip being thrown under a bus because of it. It's not enough that he is marrying a 19yr old and they won't SORAS her{which I personally don't mind} which irks many folks but to have Philip desperate to marry a 19 yr old who doesn't even want to be with him much less marry him makes me all kinds of sick. Once again characters are sacrificed and thrown under a locomotive to forward plot points and sweeps stunts.

This stinks! Furthermore wouldn't a darker Stephanie have made more sense and been more effective directly after she spent some time on a slab in the morgue? It would stand to reason the girl would lose a few of her marbles after that, or after watching Philip being shot in bed but of all things over "do-gooder" Nathan Horton? For serious?

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EJ/Sami/Rafe: Surprise, surprise -- EJ begins to develop feelings for Sami again. EJ is shocked by this development as it becomes more and more apparent how he feels about the emotional Ms. Brady. Sami and Rafe are together, but EJ's feelings are changing and it will likely develop into a longer story arc. Meanwhile, things intensify when Sydney's bloody clothes are found in the Salem river and she is declared legally dead. However, things are not as they seem -- EJ is the mastermind behind the kidnapping and he's in cahoots with Anna. He wants Sydney for himself at all costs. Daniel/Chloe: Chloe is overjoyed when she finds out she's pregnant![/


Why must every.single.character.and.character.trait get railroaded for the sake of their bloody {no pun intended} sweeps stunts? I mean ludicrous doesn't even begin to describe it. How is EJ's character supposed to recover from this? I mean at least Lawrence is dead because there is no way to incorporate a villain of that stature into the show long-term but how do they figure this will work out for EJ or any EJ ship nevermind EJami? Who the hell would want him after that? I mean kidnapped is one thing but to lead Sami to believe she was murdered? .I guess JS is thinking of leaving because after writing EJ into a corner like this I can't think where on earth they could go with him. Finally everyone knows Chloe's baby doesn't have a shot in hell at surviving because it wasn't grown in Sami Brady's belly! How many dead babies and/or nearly dead/thought to be dead/almost dead babies are we supposed to stomach. I swear these fuckers are taking hits off the crackpipe man I just swear it to God!
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A story being good or bad is a subjective opinion.
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Kenny
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Sindacco
Jan 20 2010, 02:32 PM
A story being good or bad is a subjective opinion.
No shit? LoL

In my subjective opinion, Sydney's kidnapping is a boring story.
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I would concur with that subjective opinion.
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slayer2
Jan 20 2010, 02:30 PM

All I can say is Melanie's letter better say she wants to be happy with Philip because I'm not sitting through another Philip is second choice story I am aware there is an off button on my tv {or computer as it were} if they play the old Melanie writes Nathan a letter saying it is him she truly loves {contrary to the past year we have seen of course}and she won't go through with the wedding if he responds in kind and Stephanie finds the letter only to destroy it or keep it thus a)being the only reason Melanie goes through with the wedding and b)leading the letter to be found down the road by a heartbroken Philip who does that same stupid life-support shit his egghead of a brother Lucas did then I am peacing out of this candy ass show! If there is any chance that Melanie would rather be with Nathan than with Philip {once again contrary to the past 5months} then why in hell would she be going through with it, certainly no one is putting a gun to her head, further to the point if she's so conflicted about it why is she even dating Philip in the first place? Why doesn't she just trot right back to that dullard Nathan. Grrrrr Phelanie angry! I can deal with Mate {not that I want to} but not at the expense of all the Phelanie chemistry and characterization and {may I point out} Philip being thrown under a bus because of it. It's not enough that he is marrying a 19yr old and they won't SORAS her{which I personally don't mind} which irks many folks but to have Philip desperate to marry a 19 yr old who doesn't even want to be with him much less marry him makes me all kinds of sick. Once again characters are sacrificed and thrown under a locomotive to forward plot points and sweeps stunts.

This stinks! Furthermore wouldn't a darker Stephanie have made more sense and been more effective directly after she spent some time on a slab in the morgue? It would stand to reason the girl would lose a few of her marbles after that, or after watching Philip being shot in bed but of all things over "do-gooder" Nathan Horton? For serious?

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EJ/Sami/Rafe: Surprise, surprise -- EJ begins to develop feelings for Sami again. EJ is shocked by this development as it becomes more and more apparent how he feels about the emotional Ms. Brady. Sami and Rafe are together, but EJ's feelings are changing and it will likely develop into a longer story arc. Meanwhile, things intensify when Sydney's bloody clothes are found in the Salem river and she is declared legally dead. However, things are not as they seem -- EJ is the mastermind behind the kidnapping and he's in cahoots with Anna. He wants Sydney for himself at all costs. Daniel/Chloe: Chloe is overjoyed when she finds out she's pregnant![/


Why must every.single.character.and.character.trait get railroaded for the sake of their bloody {no pun intended} sweeps stunts? I mean ludicrous doesn't even begin to describe it. How is EJ's character supposed to recover from this? I mean at least Lawrence is dead because there is no way to incorporate a villain of that stature into the show long-term but how do they figure this will work out for EJ or any EJ ship nevermind EJami? Who the hell would want him after that? I mean kidnapped is one thing but to lead Sami to believe she was murdered? .I guess JS is thinking of leaving because after writing EJ into a corner like this I can't think where on earth they could go with him. Finally everyone knows Chloe's baby doesn't have a shot in hell at surviving because it wasn't grown in Sami Brady's belly! How many dead babies and/or nearly dead/thought to be dead/almost dead babies are we supposed to stomach. I swear these fuckers are taking hits off the crackpipe man I just swear it to God!
maybe she will express her feelings for Nathan and gives reason for marrying Philip in the letter but the question is, why is she writing a letter behind Philip back, if she claims to be in love with Philip..that not being honest in a relationship..thats hiding things. Damn, Philip, you can do better, get your freaking head out of your ass... :o :D
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Maybe James wants out this writing seems to be putting EJ in a corner. he sees he is going to be tied to the albatross and keep getting this shitty writing. Im not talking about EJ being bad. James prefers EJ that way. Being tied to AS and always being in her shadow the way Bryan was. There are soo many way they can go with EJ that doesnt involve Sami. James has said he didnt want EJ chasing Sami and being her lapdog. Isnt this just another form of that? We certainly arent seeing Sami's feelings or her chasing him. Fan are sick of that I cant imagine how the actor feels. "Oh goody I get to beg the glitter to love me." :puke: They have been doing that for three years. Maybe James is as sick of it as we are. So he might want out. I dont honestly know how they are going to get EJ out of this. From some comments maybe they dont want to. :shrug:
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TINA222
Jan 20 2010, 02:48 PM
Maybe James wants out this writing seems to be putting EJ in a corner. he sees he is going to be tied to the albatross and keep getting this shitty writing. Im not talking about EJ being bad. James prefers EJ that way. Being tied to AS and always being in her shadow the way Bryan was. There are soo many way they can go with EJ that doesnt involve Sami.
It's very frustrating.

I was on the EJ/Sami train for quite a while, but Sami is a cancer to any man she comes in contact with. The best thing that could happen to the character of EJ is getting him out of Sami's orbit for a while. Putting him in a story with Arianna would be the best move at this point, IMO. They have lots of chemistry and it would be nice to see James Scott in a story with someone who actually has acting talent.
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TINA222
Jan 20 2010, 02:48 PM
Maybe James wants out this writing seems to be putting EJ in a corner. he sees he is going to be tied to the albatross and keep getting this shitty writing. Im not talking about EJ being bad. James prefers EJ that way. Being tied to AS and always being in her shadow the way Bryan was. There are soo many way they can go with EJ that doesnt involve Sami. James has said he didnt want EJ chasing Sami and being her lapdog. Isnt this just another form of that? We certainly arent seeing Sami's feelings or her chasing him. Fan are sick of that I cant imagine how the actor feels. "Oh goody I get to beg the glitter to love me." :puke: They have been doing that for three years. Maybe James is as sick of it as we are. So he might want out. I dont honestly know how they are going to get EJ out of this. From some comments maybe they dont want to. :shrug:
Lately there's been alot of talk about actors being loyal. From reading many of his fans posts on different boards, it seems like James is one of those actors that will leave (or threatens to leave) if he doesn't get good material. And he's been frontburner ever since he joined the show. At the same time there are actors that remain loyal to the show even though they get crappy material or are backburned for a long time.
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I think it is long past time for a "who killed EJ?" storyline. I'm sick to death of that motherfucker.
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Sami and Rafe are together,
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but EJ's feelings are changing and it will likely develop into a longer story arc.
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Meanwhile, things intensify when Sydney's bloody clothes are found in the Salem river and she is declared legally dead.
Disgusting! :puke: but not surprising.

Thanks for posting.
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Wow I love It DAYS OF OUR LIVS CAN BE BORING BUT IT ALSO CAN BE INTERSTING: )
THANKS FOR POSTING!!!
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Kenny
Jan 20 2010, 02:57 PM
TINA222
Jan 20 2010, 02:48 PM
Maybe James wants out this writing seems to be putting EJ in a corner. he sees he is going to be tied to the albatross and keep getting this shitty writing. Im not talking about EJ being bad. James prefers EJ that way. Being tied to AS and always being in her shadow the way Bryan was. There are soo many way they can go with EJ that doesnt involve Sami.
It's very frustrating.

I was on the EJ/Sami train for quite a while, but Sami is a cancer to any man she comes in contact with. The best thing that could happen to the character of EJ is getting him out of Sami's orbit for a while. Putting him in a story with Arianna would be the best move at this point, IMO. They have lots of chemistry and it would be nice to see James Scott in a story with someone who actually has acting talent.
Why won't the show do this, Kenny? :(

I'm SICK of Arianna's current story, and I'm sick of EJ's current story. And I think Sami is annoying. Not interested in Nicole/Brady/Arianna either if that's what is coming up. LAME!
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lysie


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Jan 20 2010, 01:46 PM
Sindacco
Jan 20 2010, 08:16 AM
I think it's funny how everyone here complains about the baby story being dragged on and at the same time in the "Days of our Un-SORASed Lives" thread people are praising the show for how they had stories going on for years and years. The Baby Switch took place one year ago, but we could say the whole baby saga started in summer 08 when EJ planted his seeds in Scami and Nicole. But some fans already complained about the story being dragged out last April during EJ and Nicole's wedding. It just shows how the mentality has changed for the majority of soap viewers the past decade.
Well said! Well done!

Ya, Days was a half hour back then, but consider this... Mickey had a stroke in the summer of 1973 and wandered away from Salem to Maggie's farm. He didn't get his memory back until 1976. The paternity of Mike Horton was a secret kept for SEVEN years.

As Agnes Nixon once said, "make em wait". If it's a good enough story with a huge climax, it's worth it.
See...I feel like this story could have worked so much better if Nicole would have switched the babies and then shut up about it. It could have come up occasionally, but if they would have just pretended like everything was normal for a while, I think the story would have worked better and it wouldn't have felt like it was dragging. Plus the characters could have participated in other storylines at the same time.
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James has stated he would stay if the writing was good. This is not good writing. Why stay in a place if you arent happy? For a show that doesnt show you any loyalty? Tomlin has proven he doesnt give a shit about anyone but his pets. I dont want EJ turning into this pathetic loser who never finds love and is always an interloper for Safe. :puke: I would rather James leave if they cant use is talents properly. They are the idiots who pushed him out the door. Their loss. James will be fine without them and the show will go on. The show has a history of not using actors talents in the right way. They are just dumb that way.
Edited by TINA222, Jan 20 2010, 03:12 PM.
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