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Topic Started: Jan 19 2010, 09:52 PM (17,407 Views)
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Sindacco
Jan 20 2010, 03:00 PM
TINA222
Jan 20 2010, 02:48 PM
Maybe James wants out this writing seems to be putting EJ in a corner. he sees he is going to be tied to the albatross and keep getting this shitty writing. Im not talking about EJ being bad. James prefers EJ that way. Being tied to AS and always being in her shadow the way Bryan was. There are soo many way they can go with EJ that doesnt involve Sami. James has said he didnt want EJ chasing Sami and being her lapdog. Isnt this just another form of that? We certainly arent seeing Sami's feelings or her chasing him. Fan are sick of that I cant imagine how the actor feels. "Oh goody I get to beg the glitter to love me." :puke: They have been doing that for three years. Maybe James is as sick of it as we are. So he might want out. I dont honestly know how they are going to get EJ out of this. From some comments maybe they dont want to. :shrug:
Lately there's been alot of talk about actors being loyal. From reading many of his fans posts on different boards, it seems like James is one of those actors that will leave (or threatens to leave) if he doesn't get good material. And he's been frontburner ever since he joined the show. At the same time there are actors that remain loyal to the show even though they get crappy material or are backburned for a long time.
I don't know if that's really coming from James or if it's just coming from fans. I think it's coming from fans because some of the ones saying that think he's happiest doing one thing and others say he's miserable doing that.
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Its a total disservice to the character of EJ to keep him with the succubus (Sami.) Even Steffy had his YEARS off his Marlena crack, damnit!

I want a bad EJ....WITHOUT THE SUCCUBUS!
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Jan 20 2010, 02:57 PM
Putting him in a story with Arianna would be the best move at this point, IMO. They have lots of chemistry and it would be nice to see James Scott in a story with someone who actually has acting talent.

I would love to see that. JS/LH have so much chemistry it would be shame to see it go the waste.
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TINA222
Jan 20 2010, 03:09 PM
James has stated he would stay if the writing was good. This is not good writing. Why stay in a place if you arent happy? For a show that doesnt show you any loyalty? Tomlin has proven he doesnt give a shit about anyone but his pets. I dont want EJ turning into this pathetic loser who never finds love and is always an interloper for Safe. :puke: I would rather James leave if they cant use is talents properly. They are the idiots who pushed him out the door.[B/] Their loss. James will be fine without them and the show will go on. The show has a history of not using actors talents in the right way. They are just dumb that way.
He came on as a newbie that got frontburner stories right away and has so ever since, while vets were backburned or used to prop him in stories that should have been about them.

When did they push him out the door? They are writing him as a bad guy again, something James has said he likes, anything except rape and murder.
Edited by Sindacco, Jan 20 2010, 03:17 PM.
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Jan 20 2010, 03:15 PM
TINA222
Jan 20 2010, 03:09 PM
James has stated he would stay if the writing was good. This is not good writing. Why stay in a place if you arent happy? For a show that doesnt show you any loyalty?[B/] Tomlin has proven he doesnt give a shit about anyone but his pets. I dont want EJ turning into this pathetic loser who never finds love and is always an interloper for Safe. :puke: I would rather James leave if they cant use is talents properly. They are the idiots who pushed him out the door.[B/] Their loss. James will be fine without them and the show will go on. The show has a history of not using actors talents in the right way. They are just dumb that way.
He came on as a newbie that got frontburner stories right away and has so ever since, while vets were backburned or used to prop him in stories that should have been about them.

When did they push him out the door? They are writing him as a bad guy again, something James has said he likes, anything except rape and murder.
Does faking a murder of a baby count as murder?
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Jan 20 2010, 08:20 AM
How the fuck to you have feelings for someone, yet let them see bloody clothes of their baby and let her think she is dead? How do you have feelings for someone, yet want to keep the baby all to yourself?
There is absolutely no logic to that story.
It reminds me of the "feelings" Steffy had for Marlena and the things he did to her and her loved ones to "express" them....
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Does faking a murder of a baby count as murder?

No murder is murder.
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They could very well put EJ and Arianna together for a while--they've certainly chem tested them and they'll have more scenes together soon. The problem is that if they're STILL having EJ sniff after Sami's hooha, after everything that's happened, then I doubt they're ever going to change that particular pathology on his part. He's not getting better, he's getting worse, to the point where it seems the character honestly enjoys torturing her but we're supposed to believe that's love? Please. I really will be curious to see how they "fix" this and make him seem less monstrous or if they're just going to do what they did last time, i.e., have him push a few strollers and change a few nappies and utter a quick apology and wham! It's love . . . until Lucas Rafe walks in and Sami streaks out of bed after him, never to return to EJ's bed until his next "redemption."

But hey, on the bright side for those of you who want EJ and Arianna, as long as Alison doesn't get pregnant again you may get a fair shot.
Edited by Paxton, Jan 20 2010, 03:20 PM.
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But the problem this that is NOT an interesting story...so all the while he goes on with his plans, lots of people are complaining now that the story's too long...now those people that have waited are supposed to wait some more to see him redeemed? Who the hell cares by tht point?!

Sure, theyll always be a segment of the viewing audience that would be willing to throw themselves off the cliff and twist themselves in knots with explanations...but everyone else just gives up!
Edited by Liz<3Days, Jan 20 2010, 03:28 PM.
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He doesnt freaking need redeeming. That is their big mistake. He is fine as the villian. I dont think the fans can go through another arc of them trying to redeem EJ. It just doesnt stick. So he can seem acceptable to the glitter? :puke:
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peaches179
Jan 20 2010, 03:15 PM
Kenny
Jan 20 2010, 02:57 PM
Putting him in a story with Arianna would be the best move at this point, IMO. They have lots of chemistry and it would be nice to see James Scott in a story with someone who actually has acting talent.

I would love to see that. JS/LH have so much chemistry it would be shame to see it go the waste.
I would like to see an EJ and Arianna pairing too.
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

Paxton
Jan 20 2010, 03:19 PM
He's not getting better, he's getting worse, to the point where it seems the character honestly enjoys torturing her but we're supposed to believe that's love? Please. I really will be curious to see how they "fix" this and make him seem less monstrous or if they're just going to do what they did last time, i.e., have him push a few strollers and change a few nappies and utter a quick apology and wham! It's love . . . until Lucas Rafe walks in and Sami streaks out of bed after him, never to return to EJ's bed until his next "redemption."

But hey, on the bright side for those of you who want EJ and Arianna, as long as Alison doesn't get pregnant again you may get a fair shot.
The thing is they don't even let him ENJOY torturing Sami any more. I doubt it will be like early 2007 when he was 100 percent BSC sweevil and it was fun for him being a sociopath. And it won't be written well enough to be a true gray character with angst. Instead we have to watch him still fuck up and not learn any lessons yet at the same time feel guilty and brood about it and we know the whole damn story won't go any where from the very beginning. What is the fun of that? Ugh.

And I don't see how taking EJ in this direction makes EJ and Arianna any more likely. She's too much of a goody goody glitter girl to be with somebody like EJ after all of this is revealed just as much as Sami right now.

BTW, wasn't there some stupid spoiler about "EJ decides to turn over a new leaf" or some bullshit? :rolleyes:

Good job, writers! More wishy-washy characterization to torture us with.

EJ can just go around town saving the lives of the worthless Hernandezes and plot secret SURPRISE TWIST revenge schemes that don't make any sense and accomplish shit while he fucks up the relationships with the people he actually gives a damn (or at least used to give a damn) about.
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IMissAremid
Jan 20 2010, 03:37 PM

BTW, wasn't there some stupid spoiler about "EJ decides to turn over a new leaf" or some bullshit? :rolleyes:
I think that happened the other day, when Stefano and Rafe had both questioned him about selling off assets and he said he was distancing himself from the DiMera name (though not moving out or refusing any of the DiMera assets in the first place). He later told Anna or actually, maybe it was Sydney who he was talking to, that he had covered "expertly" so it was clear to me it was a lie, and not quite as expert a one as he thought, lol. I think this might have been the same day he was waxing on about his flawless, seamless, nothing-could-possibly-go-wrong plan.
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Jan 20 2010, 03:37 PM
And I don't see how taking EJ in this direction makes EJ and Arianna any more likely. She's too much of a goody goody glitter girl to be with somebody like EJ after all of this is revealed just as much as Sami right now.
Oh, and on this, I don't really disagree at all. That ties back into my earlier point about what are they going to do with EJ when this is all out in the open. I thought and still think a Brady/Nicole/EJ/Arianna quad is possible but if EJ is going around faking his own child's death and letting Sami suffer I don't see anyone--much less Sami--being interested in getting involved with him at all. I really don't see how or why Sami would ever forgive him after this. I suppose it's possible that we might see EJ go through the same guilt/remorse arc that Nicole did--feeling bad he's hurting Sami but not feeling bad enough about it to tell her the truth and end her suffering. Even if he weren't involved in the death-faking, and Corday certainly makes it sound like he is, he still faked the napping and has been purposefully torturing her (and I have to say, I don't agree that RIGHT NOW he isn't enjoying it--right now I think he is, though that may change). That is not the kind of thing I see Sami letting go.
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So where do they do with EJ after all this comes out? I can see Arianna defending EJ just as Brady does with BSC Nicole. Im more interested in that then the actual storyline right now.
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I'm not a big EJ fan but I agree that Days doesn't seem to know what to do with him. They should just have him be a villain and not try and write him like a misunderstood guy from a bad family who wants to be good.

As far as romantic partners go I don't think Sami or Arianna will work. I will never accept EJAMI because of the rape. While I think EJ and Arianna have chemistry I don't think they can work as a couple as good girl Ari won't accept EJ for who he is. That's why I think EJ and Nicole worked as a couple in the beginning. Nicole knew what EJ was capable of and still accepted him. She knew he ordered the hit on Stephanie.
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It really disturbs me how Dena Higley only knows how write kids either being kidnapped,miscarried or falling down all the time (Theo).This show is just sick,what EJ is doing is sick.I wanted EJ and Arianna together,but I don't want her with someone like that,you'd have to be half insane to wanna be with EJ,James and Lindsay have great chemistry, I don't care about chemistry anymore in this situation,Deidre Hall and Drake Hogestyn had awesome chemistry and they'll always be my fave soap pairing,BUT if John had done what EJ is doing to Sami to Marlena,there is no chance in hell I would have rooted for them.
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Jan 20 2010, 03:18 PM
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Does faking a murder of a baby count as murder?

No murder is murder.
no but it does count as faking a death, and that is illegal.

And I think that JS knew this is the way they were heading that's why he was so happy, I read an article in which he said... (this is me summarizing) That he doesn't mind playing the loving scenes but he rather be doing the bad guy parts, you know most actors and actressess would.
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lysie
Jan 20 2010, 09:41 AM
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Jan 20 2010, 08:16 AM
I think it's funny how everyone here complains about the baby story being dragged on and at the same time in the "Days of our Un-SORASed Lives" thread people are praising the show for how they had stories going on for years and years. The Baby Switch took place one year ago, but we could say the whole baby saga started in summer 08 when EJ planted his seeds in Scami and Nicole. But some fans already complained about the story being dragged out last April during EJ and Nicole's wedding. It just shows how the mentality has changed for the majority of soap viewers the past decade.
I don't think it's just the mentality. I know for me personally I don't mind a story taking forever to play out if it's written well. As a matter of fact, I prefer it on a soap. The Baby Switch story would work best if it lasted a while, but it would work the very best if written well and good writing is something it's lacking...to the point that I wish they'd just wrap it up and move on. But there's definitely a difference in mentality nowadays, too (I sound like me grandmother).
Not only that, from my understanding of the stories that Matt is retelling, they weren't the main story for years on end. If I'd have been around and watching Days back then, and watched Laura and Bill continually talk about Mike's paternity just out of Mickey's ear shot every other day, I would've been complaining then, too.

It's time for this to stop being the main story, but if Sami's going to think her baby is dead (which is a new low, even for EJ Dimera to go to), we're definitely going to have weeks focused on her, and her pain, and Rafe feeling responsible, and EJ plotting, etc.
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lysie
Jan 20 2010, 03:09 PM
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Jan 20 2010, 01:46 PM
Sindacco
Jan 20 2010, 08:16 AM
I think it's funny how everyone here complains about the baby story being dragged on and at the same time in the "Days of our Un-SORASed Lives" thread people are praising the show for how they had stories going on for years and years. The Baby Switch took place one year ago, but we could say the whole baby saga started in summer 08 when EJ planted his seeds in Scami and Nicole. But some fans already complained about the story being dragged out last April during EJ and Nicole's wedding. It just shows how the mentality has changed for the majority of soap viewers the past decade.
Well said! Well done!

Ya, Days was a half hour back then, but consider this... Mickey had a stroke in the summer of 1973 and wandered away from Salem to Maggie's farm. He didn't get his memory back until 1976. The paternity of Mike Horton was a secret kept for SEVEN years.

As Agnes Nixon once said, "make em wait". If it's a good enough story with a huge climax, it's worth it.
See...I feel like this story could have worked so much better if Nicole would have switched the babies and then shut up about it. It could have come up occasionally, but if they would have just pretended like everything was normal for a while, I think the story would have worked better and it wouldn't have felt like it was dragging. Plus the characters could have participated in other storylines at the same time.
Exactly. Extending a storyline has to do with the pacing. Having Nicole get away with her baby switch confidently for months while she was involved in some other storyline would have made this all the more tolerable. Instead we saw her repeatedly talking to herself about how she was going to get away with it. They needed to rest the storyline.

I also agree with Paxton, that at that time the story was being told with insight from Nicole. Since her disappearance we haven't heard a word from EJ or Sami about their feelings, motives, etc. The fact that the viewers can only theorize why EJ is doing this is easy stunt writing to set up the next 'big twist'. Do the writer's even know his motive? Sami has a 12 hour connection to little Syd and she is way over the top with her dispair. They should have let the baby napping commence after she actually connected to the baby because currently I could care less if she ever sees the kid. Let EJ have her for whatever his supersekrit reasons are.

Having EJ go back down the road to Sami after dumping some bloody clothes in the river seems like a really bad idea and if that pairing were viable I'd rather it be Sami spoiled as having feelings for him, that would make EJ's guilt all the more delicious. Instead we get EJ, the wackadoodle, pining again over a glittery girl that doesn't want him. We've already seen that story but at least then Sami was interesting....MMV.

If they are molding EJ into the next Stefano then I prefer him to be single and not forced into an ill-fitting relationship because a shitty female character needs to be hooked up.


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