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Topic Started: Jan 19 2010, 09:52 PM (17,406 Views)
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mer4santo
Jan 20 2010, 04:45 PM
lysie
Jan 20 2010, 03:09 PM
sungrey
Jan 20 2010, 01:46 PM
Sindacco
Jan 20 2010, 08:16 AM
I think it's funny how everyone here complains about the baby story being dragged on and at the same time in the "Days of our Un-SORASed Lives" thread people are praising the show for how they had stories going on for years and years. The Baby Switch took place one year ago, but we could say the whole baby saga started in summer 08 when EJ planted his seeds in Scami and Nicole. But some fans already complained about the story being dragged out last April during EJ and Nicole's wedding. It just shows how the mentality has changed for the majority of soap viewers the past decade.
Well said! Well done!

Ya, Days was a half hour back then, but consider this... Mickey had a stroke in the summer of 1973 and wandered away from Salem to Maggie's farm. He didn't get his memory back until 1976. The paternity of Mike Horton was a secret kept for SEVEN years.

As Agnes Nixon once said, "make em wait". If it's a good enough story with a huge climax, it's worth it.
See...I feel like this story could have worked so much better if Nicole would have switched the babies and then shut up about it. It could have come up occasionally, but if they would have just pretended like everything was normal for a while, I think the story would have worked better and it wouldn't have felt like it was dragging. Plus the characters could have participated in other storylines at the same time.
Exactly. Extending a storyline has to do with the pacing. Having Nicole get away with her baby switch confidently for months while she was involved in some other storyline would have made this all the more tolerable. Instead we saw her repeatedly talking to herself about how she was going to get away with it. They needed to rest the storyline.

I also agree with Paxton, that at that time the story was being told with insight from Nicole. Since her disappearance we haven't heard a word from EJ or Sami about their feelings, motives, etc. The fact that the viewers can only theorize why EJ is doing this is easy stunt writing to set up the next 'big twist'. Do the writer's even know his motive? Sami has a 12 hour connection to little Syd and she is way over the top with her dispair. They should have let the baby napping commence after she actually connected to the baby because currently I could care less if she ever sees the kid. Let EJ have her for whatever his supersekrit reasons are.

Having EJ go back down the road to Sami after dumping some bloody clothes in the river seems like a really bad idea and if that pairing were viable I'd rather it be Sami spoiled as having feelings for him, that would make EJ's guilt all the more delicious. Instead we get EJ, the wackadoodle, pining again over a glittery girl that doesn't want him. We've already seen that story but at least then Sami was interesting....MMV.

If they are molding EJ into the next Stefano then I prefer him to be single and not forced into an ill-fitting relationship because a shitty female character needs to be hooked up.


Great post.

And on not knowing EJ's motives - the little we've heard so far is all over the place. On one hand, he's saying this is going to be a happy ending for Sami, on the other, he's letting her call him for info a hundred times in a row, and faking Sydney's death? What's going on here?
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TINA222
Jan 20 2010, 09:43 AM
Everything that happens with Ejami is tainted and never ever comes from an honest/pure place. That is why they are doomed.
And Safe's relationship is based on honesty? :eyeroll:
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All I know is the show hasn't sucked this bad since they were all on Salem Island, and even then we had a little humour. I am not interested in any of this bullshit. Probably since Melanie and Nicole became the leading ladies, I've lost interest. This bs is what James Scott was all excited about? I'm sorry but the fact that Sydney has lived her entire life is disturbing to say the least. Her freaking legs will never work right. Put her in orthopedic splints now and throw all parties involved in jail. I wish I could throw Hackley and Corday for jail for crimes against humanity. :angry:
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Jan 20 2010, 05:14 PM
All I know is the show hasn't sucked this bad since they were all on Salem Island, and even then we had a little humour. I am not interested in any of this bullshit. Probably since Melanie and Nicole became the leading ladies, I've lost interest. This bs is what James Scott was all excited about? I'm sorry but the fact that Sydney has lived her entire life is disturbing to say the least. Her freaking legs will never work right. Put her in orthopedic splints now and throw all parties involved in jail. I wish I could throw Hackley and Corday for jail for crimes against humanity. :angry:
I meant to say that Sydney has lived her whole life in a playpen.
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and Safe's relationship is based on honesty?
I dont know and frankly I dont care.I dont ship anyone and think Ejami and Safe suck equally. Safe is boring so I dont really pay any attention to them unless Im forced to. No relationship can work based on lies. Its just not real and nothing that happens with EJami will mean anything when the truth comes out.
Edited by TINA222, Jan 20 2010, 05:19 PM.
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mer4santo
Jan 20 2010, 04:45 PM
Having EJ go back down the road to Sami after dumping some bloody clothes in the river seems like a really bad idea and if that pairing were viable I'd rather it be Sami spoiled as having feelings for him, that would make EJ's guilt all the more delicious. Instead we get EJ, the wackadoodle, pining again over a glittery girl that doesn't want him. We've already seen that story but at least then Sami was interesting....MMV.



Excellent assessment, and very interesting posts from everyone!
I don't know how they plan to ever redeem EJ after all of this and have him mingle with the Bradys again, especially without him showing any remorse or guilt or anything. Unless they plan to make him the over the top villian like Stefano once was, but that seems to be a waste of JS's romancability.

One of the very few ways this story could handle EJ would be for Nicole to bring him down. Especially since Sami is made out to be really pathetic in all of this.
Nicole is fiercely protective of Sydney, and since she is very Dimera like (Stefano's words), she could be the one to switch it up on EJ and reveal Sydney and return her to the glitter. Then EJ and Nicole could have their entertaining showdowns as worth adversaries. Don't know how to get her out of prison though without EJ knowing.
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mer4santo
Jan 20 2010, 04:45 PM
lysie
Jan 20 2010, 03:09 PM
sungrey
Jan 20 2010, 01:46 PM
Sindacco
Jan 20 2010, 08:16 AM
I think it's funny how everyone here complains about the baby story being dragged on and at the same time in the "Days of our Un-SORASed Lives" thread people are praising the show for how they had stories going on for years and years. The Baby Switch took place one year ago, but we could say the whole baby saga started in summer 08 when EJ planted his seeds in Scami and Nicole. But some fans already complained about the story being dragged out last April during EJ and Nicole's wedding. It just shows how the mentality has changed for the majority of soap viewers the past decade.
Well said! Well done!

Ya, Days was a half hour back then, but consider this... Mickey had a stroke in the summer of 1973 and wandered away from Salem to Maggie's farm. He didn't get his memory back until 1976. The paternity of Mike Horton was a secret kept for SEVEN years.

As Agnes Nixon once said, "make em wait". If it's a good enough story with a huge climax, it's worth it.
See...I feel like this story could have worked so much better if Nicole would have switched the babies and then shut up about it. It could have come up occasionally, but if they would have just pretended like everything was normal for a while, I think the story would have worked better and it wouldn't have felt like it was dragging. Plus the characters could have participated in other storylines at the same time.
Exactly. Extending a storyline has to do with the pacing. Having Nicole get away with her baby switch confidently for months while she was involved in some other storyline would have made this all the more tolerable. Instead we saw her repeatedly talking to herself about how she was going to get away with it. They needed to rest the storyline.


I would have been perfectly fine with having Nicole get away it until Sydney was 18. Even bad liars don't look guilty every time someone says "mom". They beat it into the ground.

Going back to past s/l's, maybe they were better but I also think there something about reminiscing about 'the good ole days' where people gloss over the negative stuff too.
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dc cubs
Jan 20 2010, 04:02 PM
As far as romantic partners go I don't think Sami or Arianna will work. I will never accept EJAMI because of the rape. While I think EJ and Arianna have chemistry I don't think they can work as a couple as good girl Ari won't accept EJ for who he is. That's why I think EJ and Nicole worked as a couple in the beginning. Nicole knew what EJ was capable of and still accepted him. She knew he ordered the hit on Stephanie.
Yes, Ej and Nicole should have worked on paper and for many people it did but for me everything that made EJ, EJ was gone. They let his character go to the wayside in order to develop Nicole which was necessary.
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They let EJ fall for lie after lie without questioning anything. Gee sounds familiar. :laugh: :laugh: :wink:
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Yeah, but I could easily believe that EJ did that for love...which both EJ and James explained. He truly fell for her and got that chance of a happy family that both never had.

It also worked because both actors were compelling. AZ brought out the best in JS. Those scenes at the initial blowout-when he finds out that she lied about the miscarriage were classic soapy goodness.

Can you say that AS brought out anything other then OTT hand shaking? How terrible were those scenes were she screamed out to him that she kept Grace from him?

I cant wait for Nicole to come back and kick his ass! I want him in a cell and Nicole coming around to gloat!
Edited by Liz<3Days, Jan 20 2010, 06:07 PM.
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Back to EJ......elsewhere it was brought up that Stefano is probably behind the bloody clothes in the river in order to undermine EJ's relationship with Sami. That actually seems right on track given Steffi recently challenged EJ about who is the master.

Even so IF EJami is the path they want to pave I don't care about EJ's feelings.....Sami needs to start feeling them too.
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What do you mean about it "probably?" That wasnt what KC said about the bloody clothes. That someone's hopeful speculation. Until its spoiled that Steffy planted the clothes, I'm on EJ as the one to plant the clothes.

What would be cool is if Mr. "Seamless Plan" is basking in the light of the good citizens of Salem, taking in their condolences, THEN, calling Anna to check up on Sydney, only to find out that Anna doesnt have her???? Now, therein lies his catch 22....does he blow his whole cover to have help finding Sydney, would they even believe him (man who cried wolf/baby?) or would he make and excuse, leave and go off to find her himself?
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Liz<3Days
Jan 20 2010, 06:05 PM

AZ brought out the best in JS. Those scenes at the initial blowout-when he finds out that she lied about the miscarriage were classic soapy goodness.

Can you say that AS brought out anything other then OTT hand shaking? How terrible were those scenes were she screamed out to him that she kept Grace from him?
For me, JS started his weird acting moves a little after Nicole came into the picture. IDK if I give Ali S. credit for bringing out the best in James but I did think he was a good actor with and independtly from her.
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mer4santo
Jan 20 2010, 04:45 PM
we get EJ, the wackadoodle,



hey I have an important question??? Is that a technical term? That should be the word of the day! :lol:
Edited by kitkat, Jan 20 2010, 06:26 PM.
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Jan 20 2010, 06:18 PM
What do you mean about it "probably?" That wasnt what KC said about the bloody clothes. That someone's hopeful speculation. Until its spoiled that Steffy planted the clothes, I'm on EJ as the one to plant the clothes.

What would be cool is if Mr. "Seamless Plan" is basking in the light of the good citizens of Salem, taking in their condolences, THEN, calling Anna to check up on Sydney, only to find out that Anna doesnt have her???? Now, therein lies his catch 22....does he blow his whole cover to have help finding Sydney, would they even believe him (man who cried wolf/baby?) or would he make and excuse, leave and go off to find her himself?
Well it doesn't specifically state that EJ planted the bloody clothes in the river so that theory is as good as any and I would expect it possible that Syd does disappear ala Stefano, leaving EJ shitting his pants wondering where she is.

But I expect that there will be some random, twisty motive and this will all make no sense. Anna will be proven a stunt casting for ratings and one day next year we will understand what the hell went on when Syd returns from the Salem River sorased to age 24 only to become helplessly entwined in the Quad of Suck trying to battle Steph and Mel for PhillyK's heart.
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mer4santo
Jan 20 2010, 06:10 PM
Back to EJ......elsewhere it was brought up that Stefano is probably behind the bloody clothes in the river in order to undermine EJ's relationship with Sami. That actually seems right on track given Steffi recently challenged EJ about who is the master.

Even so IF EJami is the path they want to pave I don't care about EJ's feelings.....Sami needs to start feeling them too.
Except where would Stefano get the clothes and wouldn't EJ run to Sydney to check on her. And would Ej if he love Sami so much run and tell her not to dispair their daughter is alive...
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Given the propensity of the writing staff to throw "twists" into the story, I'm on the "Stefano kidnaps Sydney from Anna and EJ and fakes her death" train. EJ will start feeling guilty about keeping Sydney from Sami (since he's having "feelings" for her again). Just when he's about to bring Sydney home, Stefano finds Anna and he takes Sydney from her. The mad search ensues again, only to find the bloody clothes and have Sydney presumed dead. EJ feels wretchedly guilty, he and Sami bond during their mourning, Sami still blames Rafe, etc., etc. Then just as EJ and Sami are growing closer, Nicole remembers Anna which she tells Rafe which leads him to somehow find out about EJ's role in everything and, depending on whether the monkeys really are ready to end this story, also leads to Rafe finding Sydney.

If the show were really smart and/or was sure they had time, they'd have Stefano keep Sydney for years, then have her turn up all properly DiMera-fied and hating both her parents.
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I also wish that Nicole had been able to keep Sydney. Sami has 3 other kids she never takes care of, at the very least one of the 4 deserves a decent parent that's there for them and doesn't just treat them like pawns.
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mer4santo
Jan 20 2010, 06:26 PM
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Jan 20 2010, 06:18 PM
What do you mean about it "probably?" That wasnt what KC said about the bloody clothes. That someone's hopeful speculation. Until its spoiled that Steffy planted the clothes, I'm on EJ as the one to plant the clothes.

What would be cool is if Mr. "Seamless Plan" is basking in the light of the good citizens of Salem, taking in their condolences, THEN, calling Anna to check up on Sydney, only to find out that Anna doesnt have her???? Now, therein lies his catch 22....does he blow his whole cover to have help finding Sydney, would they even believe him (man who cried wolf/baby?) or would he make and excuse, leave and go off to find her himself?
Well it doesn't specifically state that EJ planted the bloody clothes in the river so that theory is as good as any and I would expect it possible that Syd does disappear ala Stefano, leaving EJ shitting his pants wondering where she is.

But I expect that there will be some random, twisty motive and this will all make no sense. Anna will be proven a stunt casting for ratings and one day next year we will understand what the hell went on when Syd returns from the Salem River sorased to age 24 only to become helplessly entwined in the Quad of Suck trying to battle Steph and Mel for PhillyK's heart.
Hopefully EJAMI wishes, Corday does say EJ will do it at all costs... sounds like it means even if he can't have Sami. He wants that little girl and the truth is even if he returned that girl today the truth could come out and EJAMI would be down the crapper. The only way is to kill her off so Sami will stop looking...
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Jan 20 2010, 06:29 PM
If the show were really smart and/or was sure they had time, they'd have Stefano keep Sydney for years, then have her turn up all properly DiMera-fied and hating both her parents.
yes please. We need a bad-ass DiMera woman for once. Lexie will never stay on the dark side where she is actually entertaining.
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