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SOW: A closer look: Hope; February 2nd issue; article summary
Topic Started: Jan 21 2010, 03:07 PM (6,362 Views)
duckie
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Q Steph
Jan 21 2010, 08:53 PM
I must be the only one who thinks Hope is a twit. She brought on her own misery. I've been watching the show more and more and she just grates my nerves.
You most definitely are not.
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Mason


Frankly, I think everyone in this triangle is an idiot. Hope's been acting like an irrational fool for months. Bo's a moronic asshat putting Carly and, by extension, Melanie above his family. And Carly....Carly's just been stupid in general. In a way, I have to give credit to the writers for putting everyone on equal footing (even if I loathe it).
Edited by Mason, Jan 21 2010, 09:37 PM.
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StephanieYates
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Q Steph
Jan 21 2010, 08:53 PM
I must be the only one who thinks Hope is a twit. She brought on her own misery. I've been watching the show more and more and she just grates my nerves.
oh goood lord i agree with you!
this just made me not like Hope more and she used to be one of my favorites!
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sandyeggo1


PhoenixRising05
Jan 21 2010, 04:48 PM
DrewHamilton
Jan 21 2010, 04:46 PM
She slept with Hope's hubsand! I hope she throws every dirty slur in the book at her. :lol:
I don't mind what she says to her but if she goes around town spreading that crap to people like Maggie, I want Maggie to turn around and tell her a little about what Carly really was like. That is what is missing in all this. We got some Carly/Maggie scenes but I would love some more where Hope finally learns that Carly was well-liked. Sometimes it comes off like Bo was the only one who bothered to give her the time of day back then LOL.
With that logic why not have Vivian just tell Carly was a wonderful little boy Lawrence used to be and all his teacher thought he was such an angel to have in class. I'm sure she will rethink stabbing him in the gut after that. :eyeroll:
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sandyeggo1


duckie
Jan 21 2010, 09:26 PM
Q Steph
Jan 21 2010, 08:53 PM
I must be the only one who thinks Hope is a twit. She brought on her own misery. I've been watching the show more and more and she just grates my nerves.
You most definitely are not.
No, there are those that will always hate Hope no matter what she does or doesn't do. Just like Victor and I are not the only ones who are "disgusted with Bo's behavior and sick of looking at Carly's face" :laugh:
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sandyeggo1
Jan 21 2010, 10:08 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 21 2010, 04:48 PM
DrewHamilton
Jan 21 2010, 04:46 PM
She slept with Hope's hubsand! I hope she throws every dirty slur in the book at her. :lol:
I don't mind what she says to her but if she goes around town spreading that crap to people like Maggie, I want Maggie to turn around and tell her a little about what Carly really was like. That is what is missing in all this. We got some Carly/Maggie scenes but I would love some more where Hope finally learns that Carly was well-liked. Sometimes it comes off like Bo was the only one who bothered to give her the time of day back then LOL.
With that logic why not have Vivian just tell Carly was a wonderful little boy Lawrence used to be and all his teacher thought he was such an angel to have in class. I'm sure she will rethink stabbing him in the gut after that. :eyeroll:
Oh please, Carly isn't that terrible of a character. Lawrence is WAAAYYYYY worse than her. Your hatred of Carly just baffles me. I know it's your opinion though, don't take it personally.
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cassie1013


Mason
Jan 21 2010, 09:29 PM
Frankly, I think everyone in this triangle is an idiot. Hope's been acting like an irrational fool for months. Bo's a moronic asshat putting Carly and, by extension, Melanie above his family. And Carly....Carly's just been stupid in general. In a way, I have to give credit to the writers for putting everyone on equal footing (even if I loathe it).
I completely agree, but I love that they're all in the wrong! :P Creates for some good drama. I'm tired of goodie two-shoes characters.
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cassie1013
Jan 21 2010, 10:41 PM
Mason
Jan 21 2010, 09:29 PM
Frankly, I think everyone in this triangle is an idiot. Hope's been acting like an irrational fool for months. Bo's a moronic asshat putting Carly and, by extension, Melanie above his family. And Carly....Carly's just been stupid in general. In a way, I have to give credit to the writers for putting everyone on equal footing (even if I loathe it).
I completely agree, but I love that they're all in the wrong! :P Creates for some good drama. I'm tired of goodie two-shoes characters.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't want anyone to be perfect. I like when characters have flaws. But I also like them to be rootable, which is something I'm not finding any of these three to be right now.
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cassie1013
Jan 21 2010, 08:51 PM
sandyeggo1
Jan 21 2010, 04:17 PM
DrewHamilton
Jan 21 2010, 04:06 PM
How dare Carly throw her taking care of Shawn while Hope was gone in Hope's face? Bitch! It wasn't like Hope skipped out of town and left her family stranded. She was presumed dead and held against her will by Stefano, and had amnesia! Fuck Carly! I have considered Hope the bad bitch throughout this entire story, but once these scenes play, I'm going to be on Team Hope for the win. Fuck Carly Manning. I'm glad Hope throws back in Carly's face that she chose to break Bo's heart and go with Lawrence and his money. Go Hope!

And I like Alfonso's explanation of Hope and Justin. It's a good thing that she's not rushing into bed with Justin. That was one of the one things that ruined Hope during Zack's death. She fell for Patrick way too easily after thinking that Bo was with Billie.
:hail:

Great post. Loved it.

I think Hope's comment a few months back about her regret over Patrick set it up so that she doesn't make the same mistake again.
When did she mention Patrick recently? Can't remember that. Patrick was the worst character EVER.
Hope mentioned Patrick to Bo, when they were having an argument before she moved out of the house to live with Victor. She said something like: "Have you forgiven me for the Patrick thing? Because I don't think I've forgiven myself about that."

Anyway, I love this article. Kristian gives a great insight into Hope's POV and perspective, just like Peter and Crystal have done in previously interviews for their characters. Long overdue in my opinion. She certainly knows her character pretty intimately.
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sandyeggo1


ga68153
Jan 21 2010, 10:12 PM
sandyeggo1
Jan 21 2010, 10:08 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jan 21 2010, 04:48 PM
DrewHamilton
Jan 21 2010, 04:46 PM
She slept with Hope's hubsand! I hope she throws every dirty slur in the book at her. :lol:
I don't mind what she says to her but if she goes around town spreading that crap to people like Maggie, I want Maggie to turn around and tell her a little about what Carly really was like. That is what is missing in all this. We got some Carly/Maggie scenes but I would love some more where Hope finally learns that Carly was well-liked. Sometimes it comes off like Bo was the only one who bothered to give her the time of day back then LOL.
With that logic why not have Vivian just tell Carly was a wonderful little boy Lawrence used to be and all his teacher thought he was such an angel to have in class. I'm sure she will rethink stabbing him in the gut after that. :eyeroll:
Oh please, Carly isn't that terrible of a character. Lawrence is WAAAYYYYY worse than her. Your hatred of Carly just baffles me. I know it's your opinion though, don't take it personally.
You missed the point. It's not that Carly is as bad as Lawrence. It that it's silly to expect people to overlook the bad things a person does now just because they did good things a long time ago.

What baffles me is why Carly fans are so hell bent on everyone in Salem needing to worship her not for what she does or is now, but what she was or did the first time she was in town. That's what's baffling. My contempt for an over-rated, over exposed character is not a mystery at all.
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cassie1013


Mason
Jan 21 2010, 11:12 PM
cassie1013
Jan 21 2010, 10:41 PM
Mason
Jan 21 2010, 09:29 PM
Frankly, I think everyone in this triangle is an idiot. Hope's been acting like an irrational fool for months. Bo's a moronic asshat putting Carly and, by extension, Melanie above his family. And Carly....Carly's just been stupid in general. In a way, I have to give credit to the writers for putting everyone on equal footing (even if I loathe it).
I completely agree, but I love that they're all in the wrong! :P Creates for some good drama. I'm tired of goodie two-shoes characters.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't want anyone to be perfect. I like when characters have flaws. But I also like them to be rootable, which is something I'm not finding any of these three to be right now.
Yeah, and I can understand that. I don't mind no one being rootable right now, but I suspect it will tire quickly. I have a feeling Carly will end up being the rootable one, mainly because Bo and Hope both look like assholes. As much as Bo did a douchebaggy thing sleeping with Carly so soon, I do understand why he did it. And I feel sorry for Carly due to Lawrence and her trying to find her daughter.

Having Hope as the least rootable of the trio is an unusual role for her character, which, for me, has breathed life into her. I hope they take it and run with it.

Back to the rootable thing though, I'm a weird soap viewer, LOL. Like if someone goes, "Carly is such a slut!" I'll be all "I know, isn't it great?" :lol:
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LawlyFan4ever
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Every character on this damn show is out of character!!! Since this topic is about Hope Bo Carly and Justin I'll just start with them.

Hope would have never moved out like she did let alone move into Victor's house who is a freakin criminal!
Bo wouldn't be keeping secrets from Hope. She'd know Carly's "secret" and would be on her side 110%.
Justin....sorry Justin they really F----d you up! He just isn't the same without Adrienne. Not to mention he was never an old friend of Hope's. Hope never even knew Justin!! Nor did Bo for that matter.
Carly this is one of the worst of these 4 if not THE worst. I'm on the fence though. Sure time changes people but still....who you WERE is there somewhere, when the hell are we going to see it?
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loved the article & I really liked KA point of view on the whole situation. I get that Hope had a part in the downfall of the marriage, she moved out blah blah. But really? what Bo is doing at the moment is down right cruel! How could he do that, protecting Carly&her kid is one thing, but being that mean/cruel towards Hope is pathetic. He acts as if this stuff isn't going to effect Hope, she's obviously in pain over everything. I'm glad she's finding it hard to believe, but then Bo doesn't say anything which only leads her to believe he's telling the truth.

thanx for posting! :)
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cassie1013


LawlyFan4ever
Jan 22 2010, 12:48 AM
Every character on this damn show is out of character!!!
Well, realistically...it's because the head writer essentially becomes the character. And with different head writers... you get my drift?
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Dr. Chip


So we've gone from "No, Carly and Bo won't be romantically involved" and "Carly is not a threat to Hope" to this new quote, "Anything that comes to an end is sad."
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Blazin_Blue


sandyeggo1
Jan 22 2010, 12:03 AM
It that it's silly to expect people to overlook the bad things a person does now just because they did good things a long time ago.

What baffles me is why Carly fans are so hell bent on everyone in Salem needing to worship her not for what she does or is now, but what she was or did the first time she was in town. That's what's baffling. My contempt for an over-rated, over exposed character is not a mystery at all.
Because it's weird. If a really good friend (especially one that was considered family) from someone's past comes back to town, people are usually happy to see that person. Carly hadn't even slept with Bo yet and no one knew about her stabbing Lawrence, yet as soon as she got to town, people were all suspicious of her when they had no reason to be. They knew her as a good person, so why would they suddenly think otherwise when they know nothing on the contrary? I can understand why they wouldn't be so fond of her now after she slept with Bo, but before doesn't make sense.

This was a great article. Can't wait to see it all play out.
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cassie1013


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So we've gone from "No, Carly and Bo won't be romantically involved" and "Carly is not a threat to Hope" to this new quote, "Anything that comes to an end is sad."


Yeah, you really have to wonder about these quotes. Crystal said there would be no Bo romance...um, really?

I'm not even sure I trust Kristian's assessment that Justin isn't a love interest. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on her part, LOL.
Edited by cassie1013, Jan 22 2010, 02:13 AM.
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ladyofthelake
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LawlyFan4ever
Jan 22 2010, 12:48 AM
Every character on this damn show is out of character!!! Since this topic is about Hope Bo Carly and Justin I'll just start with them.

Hope would have never moved out like she did let alone move into Victor's house who is a freakin criminal!
Bo wouldn't be keeping secrets from Hope. She'd know Carly's "secret" and would be on her side 110%.
Justin....sorry Justin they really F----d you up! He just isn't the same without Adrienne. Not to mention he was never an old friend of Hope's. Hope never even knew Justin!! Nor did Bo for that matter.
Carly this is one of the worst of these 4 if not THE worst. I'm on the fence though. Sure time changes people but still....who you WERE is there somewhere, when the hell are we going to see it?
Seriously, wouldn't you think Hope would have moved in with Maggie (since Maggie has Carly's spot open!) or Alice? Victor just seemed to be an odd choice. Or, don't Doug and Julie still have a house in Salem? Was Hope's intention to just dig barbs at Bo? They probably mentioned her reasoning, and I just forgot.
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cassie1013
Jan 22 2010, 02:12 AM
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So we've gone from "No, Carly and Bo won't be romantically involved" and "Carly is not a threat to Hope" to this new quote, "Anything that comes to an end is sad."


Yeah, you really have to wonder about these quotes. Crystal said there would be no Bo romance...um, really?

I'm not even sure I trust Kristian's assessment that Justin isn't a love interest. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on her part, LOL.
Well, do we know what the timeline is between the interviews and publications, and how far in advance they get their scripts? They might have totally been in the dark about these romances. It seems like quite a few things like this come out from left field.
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cassie1013
Jan 22 2010, 02:12 AM
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So we've gone from "No, Carly and Bo won't be romantically involved" and "Carly is not a threat to Hope" to this new quote, "Anything that comes to an end is sad."


Yeah, you really have to wonder about these quotes. Crystal said there would be no Bo romance...um, really?

I'm not even sure I trust Kristian's assessment that Justin isn't a love interest. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on her part, LOL.
Well technically Bo and Carly are not romantically involved right now. It was sex and not romance. Currently, I don't consider them a couple. I do wonder if the writers changed things and sped the timeline up of having Bo and Carly sleep together.
Edited by dc cubs, Jan 22 2010, 10:59 AM.
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