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Topic Started: Jan 16 2010, 08:29 PM (7,257 Views)
Days4Life


Well, if the writers were using today's show to garner sympathy for Carly, it worked. Lawrence was a horrible, horrible man who abused her and probably deserved killing. I wonder how widely known that abuse was. At the time Carly and Lawrence left town, they appeared to be happy and everything was A-OK. That may explain why Carly isn't exactly a sympathetic figure to the other Salemites.

I enjoyed the Bo/Abe talk although it made Bo look, once again, like a big jerk. In order to protect Carly and her secret, he's willing to hurt Hope terribly, at a time when she's also dealing with the death of a beloved family member. And what about Ciara? Adults always underestimate children and what they hear/what they know. Bo needs to trust his wife with the truth but instead he's going to make an even bigger mess of things.

Maggie v. Kate was good, too. Loved the fire coming out of Maggie's eyes!

I may have fallen asleep during Nathan and Stephanie because I don't remember anything about them.
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Keith
Jan 19 2010, 04:14 PM

I loved Lawrence. I just love psychotic villains and somehow I thought the baby drop threat was more delicious than disturbing I guess the line was just so well written, lol.

I loved the Lawrence scenes, too. Yeah, I get it that he was a crazy, horrible guy, but MS was just so good in those scenes. I always loved to hate Lawrence! Carly annoyed me a little in the childbirth scenes...all the screaming and yelling was just too much. I had two babies with zero meds and was way too focused on breathing and getting through the whole thing to waste my energy and oxygen screaming. But then again, it's a soap and drama rules!
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I guess it isn't a soap without the typical screaming labor scene. Why don't any of the women get epidurals or have an easy delivery? I think women in general might prefer that than the obligatory painful labor scenes.

Yea, as much as I thought the Lawrence scene was nasty, I enjoyed the flashback and hope we get a truly evil scary villan back, not some Diet Coke villian. Especially a bad guy who is tolerated by others in order to prop the crazy deserving, murderous wife.

And I agree with whoever said that Carly hasn't admitted to killing her husband to anyone except Vivian. Didn't someone clear her name? So Melanie needs to knock that off as far as she knows.
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Weebs79


I personally am liking Carlys s/l overall. I know some don't like the Carly/Bo/Hope triangle but there are many more facets other than them. I love the scenes with her and Lawrence. He is so truly evil. Days hasn't had a diabolical manic like him in a looong time. Stephano is jus a shell of his former self. Also her fear of him is great. CC is doing an amazing job showing that gut wrenching fear.

I really like MB and CC scenes. I like that they are drawn together and both of them can't understand it. Today when MB questioned why she told her that Trent pimped her out. You can also really see how devistated she is that Mel had it bad either way.

Vivan and Carly has also been amusing.

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Alligato
Jan 19 2010, 04:38 PM
I guess it isn't a soap without the typical screaming labor scene. Why don't any of the women get epidurals or have an easy delivery? I think women in general might prefer that than the obligatory painful labor scenes.

Yea, as much as I thought the Lawrence scene was nasty, I enjoyed the flashback and hope we get a truly evil scary villan back, not some Diet Coke villian. Especially a bad guy who is tolerated by others in order to prop the crazy deserving, murderous wife.

And I agree with whoever said that Carly hasn't admitted to killing her husband to anyone except Vivian. Didn't someone clear her name? So Melanie needs to knock that off as far as she knows.
I know this so far childless woman would certainly appreciate it. There have been multiple labor scenes on television that have scarred me for life.
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Great show today. Loved everything with Vivian, Bo, Phillip, Carly, Lawrence, Melanie, Kate and Maggie. Also it was nice to finally see Abe. Oh and glad Michael Sabintino finally got a haircut.
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Keith
Jan 19 2010, 04:14 PM
I love how they played the Maggie/Kate scenes. yes, it was abut Melanie - but it also wasn't. Rogers really made it about what Maggie thinks of Kate and it was fantastic. And the threat! So much love.

Bo is an idiot. Hope is a cop. Even if you don't trust her as your wife, trust her as your friend, you bafoon.

I loved Lawrence. I just love psychotic villains and somehow I thought the baby drop threat was more delicious than disturbing I guess the line was just so well written, lol.

I missed the beginning of the show - anything good with Melissa?
Guess you have not watched that long.

Bo's has good instincts. Hope doesn't.
Bo gets the bad guys. Hope gets kidnapped by them. Or dies.

I totally get why Bo does not trust Hope.

Anyway, why trust someone who has told you over and over for months, she did not trust you. Not good working conditions.
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Keith
Jan 19 2010, 04:14 PM
I love how they played the Maggie/Kate scenes. yes, it was abut Melanie - but it also wasn't. Rogers really made it about what Maggie thinks of Kate and it was fantastic. And the threat! So much love. <br /><br />Bo is an idiot. Hope is a cop. Even if you don't trust her as your wife, trust her as your friend, you bafoon. <br /><br />I loved Lawrence. I just love psychotic villains and somehow I thought the baby drop threat was more delicious than disturbing I guess the line was just so well written, lol. <br /><br />I missed the beginning of the show - anything good with Melissa?
Guess you have not watched that long.

Bo's has good instincts. Hope doesn't.
Bo gets the bad guys. Hope gets kidnapped by them. Or dies.

I totally get why Bo does not trust Hope.

Anyway, why trust someone who has told you over and over for months, she did not trust you. Not good working conditions.
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Harmony233


yeah as creepy as Lawrence was.He was entertaining.Of course Lawrence was never a character that was all there.I mean even in these flashbacks he still seemed to have that obession for Carly.Like when Carly told Lawrence to take it out on her and not the baby.Then Lawrence was like but I love you.I don't know why but that kinda made me laugh.
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Let's get Lawrence UnDead Stat! We need a bad guy to teach EJ and Philip how it's done. EJ needs schooling to remember his past triumphs and PhillyK needs an edge back.

EJ v Lawrence v Philip = WIN
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mer4santo
Jan 19 2010, 05:56 PM
Let's get Lawrence UnDead Stat! We need a bad guy to teach EJ and Philip how it's done. EJ needs schooling to remember his past triumphs and PhillyK needs an edge back.

EJ v Lawrence v Philip = WIN
Well February sweeps is right around the corner. Maybe your wish will come true next month. It's not a matter of IF Lawrence is alive it's just a matter of when he is revealed to be alive.
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AlisonLou


I think days has the right balance with the teens and adults and young adults right now. If they bring on another vet full time it could push the younger crowd away and that could have an effect on the ratings. Days have done well bringing in the younger viewers. I'm happy seeing MS casually. They need to end the baby fiasco before they bring any more people on for the Carly storyline. Wouldn't surprise me though if Lawrence turned out to be alive. It's expected. I do wonder if they got rid of Bryan Datillo to bring on MS full time. Just my opinion though.
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Lioness


Lawrence always was more than a tad obsessive and creepy in my book. The way I see it, Carly would have to be stupid blind to be clueless as to how he might turn if things went sour. That being said, the Lawrence in those flashbacks was WAY over the top, but that kind of pimpage is par for the course when TPTB want to promote their chosen "IT" couple.

As for Bope, I personally blame them both for the state of their marriage. Hope wouldn't give the time of day after the Ciara situation, but Bo worsened the situation by keeping Hope in the dark with regard to Carly. And Bo continues to make bad choice after bad choice, while Hope turns more harpy-like as the situation drags on and Carly plays the injured angel.

Personally, this entire storyline is grating on my nerves as much as the Sydnapping Snafu!!! :frustration:
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Sam09
Jan 19 2010, 05:23 PM
Keith
Jan 19 2010, 04:14 PM
I love how they played the Maggie/Kate scenes. yes, it was abut Melanie - but it also wasn't. Rogers really made it about what Maggie thinks of Kate and it was fantastic. And the threat! So much love. <br /><br />Bo is an idiot. Hope is a cop. Even if you don't trust her as your wife, trust her as your friend, you bafoon. <br /><br />I loved Lawrence. I just love psychotic villains and somehow I thought the baby drop threat was more delicious than disturbing I guess the line was just so well written, lol. <br /><br />I missed the beginning of the show - anything good with Melissa?
Guess you have not watched that long.

Bo's has good instincts. Hope doesn't.
Bo gets the bad guys. Hope gets kidnapped by them. Or dies.

I totally get why Bo does not trust Hope.

Anyway, why trust someone who has told you over and over for months, she did not trust you. Not good working conditions.
I don't know where you get off telling me I haven't watched long, but whatever. I'm fully aware of their history. Trust or not, he loves Hope. Often blindly. It's not the first time he's acted like an idiot. The name Billie Reed comes to mind almost every time. He's got a hero complex and Hope doesn't need someone to save her, but what happens when Vivian uses her vicinity to Hope to try to hurt Bo? He could warn her. They started to use Hope in cop mode a few weeks ago and I loved it. It'd be great if they wound up working together all the while not trusting each other. At the end of the day, Bo wants to protect the women he loves and he'll do it, trust or anything be damned.
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Lioness
Jan 19 2010, 06:18 PM
As for Bope, I personally blame them both for the state of their marriage. Hope wouldn't give the time of day after the Ciara situation, but Bo worsened the situation by keeping Hope in the dark with regard to Carly. And Bo continues to make bad choice after bad choice, while Hope turns more harpy-like as the situation drags on and Carly plays the injured angel.
In full agreement on this post :)
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Weebs79
Jan 19 2010, 05:07 PM
I personally am liking Carlys s/l overall. I know some don't like the Carly/Bo/Hope triangle but there are many more facets other than them. I love the scenes with her and Lawrence. He is so truly evil. Days hasn't had a diabolical manic like him in a looong time. Stephano is jus a shell of his former self. Also her fear of him is great. CC is doing an amazing job showing that gut wrenching fear.

I really like MB and CC scenes. I like that they are drawn together and both of them can't understand it. Today when MB questioned why she told her that Trent pimped her out. You can also really see how devistated she is that Mel had it bad either way.

Vivan and Carly has also been amusing.

I don't make it a secret that I don't like Carly at all, but she seemed to "come alive" in those flashback scenes with MS. He's a wicked bad guy. This show needs one because as you said, Stefano has been tamed too much.
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Keith
Jan 19 2010, 06:19 PM
Sam09
Jan 19 2010, 05:23 PM
Keith
Jan 19 2010, 04:14 PM
I love how they played the Maggie/Kate scenes. yes, it was abut Melanie - but it also wasn't. Rogers really made it about what Maggie thinks of Kate and it was fantastic. And the threat! So much love. <br /><br />Bo is an idiot. Hope is a cop. Even if you don't trust her as your wife, trust her as your friend, you bafoon. <br /><br />I loved Lawrence. I just love psychotic villains and somehow I thought the baby drop threat was more delicious than disturbing I guess the line was just so well written, lol. <br /><br />I missed the beginning of the show - anything good with Melissa?
Guess you have not watched that long.

Bo's has good instincts. Hope doesn't.
Bo gets the bad guys. Hope gets kidnapped by them. Or dies.

I totally get why Bo does not trust Hope.

Anyway, why trust someone who has told you over and over for months, she did not trust you. Not good working conditions.
I don't know where you get off telling me I haven't watched long, but whatever. I'm fully aware of their history. Trust or not, he loves Hope. Often blindly. It's not the first time he's acted like an idiot. The name Billie Reed comes to mind almost every time. He's got a hero complex and Hope doesn't need someone to save her, but what happens when Vivian uses her vicinity to Hope to try to hurt Bo? He could warn her. They started to use Hope in cop mode a few weeks ago and I loved it. It'd be great if they wound up working together all the while not trusting each other. At the end of the day, Bo wants to protect the women he loves and he'll do it, trust or anything be damned.
I get off because your comment made it seem like you don't get it.

But whatever.
Bo has no reason to trust Hope right. He may love her. She does not love him and she sure as hell does not trust him.
We all see what we want to see.
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Days4Life


Hope doesn't love Bo? Seriously? Just because they have many issues and are currently separated, I believe they still love each other. You don't just one day fall out of love with someone you've loved for most of your life. Yes, there are trust issues, but the love is still there.

I guess we all really do see things differently.
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Sam09
Jan 19 2010, 06:56 PM
Keith
Jan 19 2010, 06:19 PM
Sam09
Jan 19 2010, 05:23 PM
Keith
Jan 19 2010, 04:14 PM
I love how they played the Maggie/Kate scenes. yes, it was abut Melanie - but it also wasn't. Rogers really made it about what Maggie thinks of Kate and it was fantastic. And the threat! So much love. <br /><br />Bo is an idiot. Hope is a cop. Even if you don't trust her as your wife, trust her as your friend, you bafoon. <br /><br />I loved Lawrence. I just love psychotic villains and somehow I thought the baby drop threat was more delicious than disturbing I guess the line was just so well written, lol. <br /><br />I missed the beginning of the show - anything good with Melissa?
Guess you have not watched that long.

Bo's has good instincts. Hope doesn't.
Bo gets the bad guys. Hope gets kidnapped by them. Or dies.

I totally get why Bo does not trust Hope.

Anyway, why trust someone who has told you over and over for months, she did not trust you. Not good working conditions.
I don't know where you get off telling me I haven't watched long, but whatever. I'm fully aware of their history. Trust or not, he loves Hope. Often blindly. It's not the first time he's acted like an idiot. The name Billie Reed comes to mind almost every time. He's got a hero complex and Hope doesn't need someone to save her, but what happens when Vivian uses her vicinity to Hope to try to hurt Bo? He could warn her. They started to use Hope in cop mode a few weeks ago and I loved it. It'd be great if they wound up working together all the while not trusting each other. At the end of the day, Bo wants to protect the women he loves and he'll do it, trust or anything be damned.
I get off because your comment made it seem like you don't get it.

But whatever.
Bo has no reason to trust Hope right. He may love her. She does not love him and she sure as hell does not trust him.
We all see what we want to see.
So anyone who disagrees with your fan fics "doesn't get it" ? Want to take a guess at what your comments sound like? Here's a little hint: :joint:
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Days4Life
Jan 19 2010, 07:21 PM
Hope doesn't love Bo? Seriously? Just because they have many issues and are currently separated, I believe they still love each other. You don't just one day fall out of love with someone you've loved for most of your life. Yes, there are trust issues, but the love is still there.

I guess we all really do see things differently.
Who goes to family and tells them that their uncle, the person they say they LOVE is responsible for their child's trauma and because of him, their child may never, ever get past the trauma? That's LOVE?? Seriously? It's one thing to be angry, to disagree, to be hurt, but to tell anyone that this person is responsible for your child's lifelong trauma, is cruel. That's not a loving thing to do. It's actually quite hateful.

You are right. Things are seen differently.
While people are going b*tsh*t crazy over adultery, the trashing of someone in the most horrid way, telling their own family they are a bad parent, gets a pass. At least with adultery, there's a physical need. What was the need to compel Hope to trash Bo to his family in a way that would hurt him more than anything. Every time Hope implies what a bad father he is to him, it is a knife in his heart. You can see the hurt on Bo's face when Hope implies he would endanger Ciara. But, of course, that gets the OK.

Sorry, just don't agree. That marriage is over. Hope does not love Bo or she would never ever keep blaming him for Zach's death, and now for Ciara's trauma. Who does that to someone you love, wants them to feel like they are responsible for any hurt to a child.
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