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Topic Started: Jan 16 2010, 08:29 PM (7,265 Views)
Mirage75
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Kenny
Jan 18 2010, 01:25 PM
Melanie's over-the-top anger towards Carly isn't amusing in the least. It's just annoying. And Molly Burnett gets on my nerves with her weird facial expressions and hand gestures.
ICAM about Molly Burnett, a lot of her acting quirks are so damn annoying. I agree that the weird facial expressions just turn me off from her. and it does not help to endure me to the character of Melanie at all.
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Kenny
Jan 18 2010, 01:25 PM
Melanie's over-the-top anger towards Carly isn't amusing in the least. It's just annoying. And Molly Burnett gets on my nerves with her weird facial expressions and hand gestures.
You probably have never been to the Carl's Jr. in Thousand Oaks, CA when the local high school breaks for lunch. Melanie reminds me of the typical "Obnoxious LA Teenager". Yes, it's really that bad.
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Matt
Jan 18 2010, 01:27 PM
note to TPTB: Less Alison Sweeney, more Suzanne Rogers. thank you.
:hail: :iagree:
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Matt
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How nice of Super-Rafe to curtly inform EJ & Sami that they've inconvenienced him because, after all, it's all about letting Rafe be the hero. *ugh*
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Kenny
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Why doesn't someone tell Molly Burnett that what her awkward gestures and weird facial expressions are distracting? Does nobody at the show direct the actors anymore or are they all flying by the seat of their pants?
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Kenny
Jan 18 2010, 01:31 PM
This Sydnapping saga is SO. FUCKING. BORING. I just don't care anymore. It should've ended on Christmas Eve with a miraculous reunion on the pier. Prolonging it like this just wasn't worth it.
Bite your tongue!

The last kidnapping (from Nicole to Anna) was really where I just lost interest. It should have ended in November. I didn't much care then, but I REALLY don't care now.
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sandyeggo1
Jan 18 2010, 01:35 PM
Kenny
Jan 18 2010, 01:25 PM
Melanie's over-the-top anger towards Carly isn't amusing in the least. It's just annoying. And Molly Burnett gets on my nerves with her weird facial expressions and hand gestures.
You probably have never been to the Carl's Jr. in Thousand Oaks, CA when the local high school breaks for lunch. Melanie reminds me of the typical "Obnoxious LA Teenager". Yes, it's really that bad.
But Melanie's supposed to be oh-so-mature that she wouldn't fit into the teen set. :eyeroll: Personally, I think she and Mia definitely look (and act) like contemporaries.
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Kenny
Jan 18 2010, 01:37 PM
Why doesn't someone tell Molly Burnett that what her awkward gestures and weird facial expressions are distracting? Does nobody at the show direct the actors anymore or are they all flying by the seat of their pants?
I actually think they think her quirks are adorable.
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Kenny
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Ugh. Molly sucks so much in emotional scenes. I hate her, LoL. How is it that so many people have actually come around to her? I mean, she's not as bad as Taylor Spreitler, but she's far from good.
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Kenny
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FUCK Gus calling Vivian "madame." Bullshit!

Where's Ivan?
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esp13
Jan 18 2010, 01:31 PM
I think we're talking at cross-purposes here because I don't disagree with a word you've said. My point was simply that it's hardly limited to Carly. Carly is not being thrown under the bus any more or any less than other characters have been over the last couple of years. Hell, they turned Hope into SuperFancyJudgmentalFace just to make sure there was a big rift in Bo and Hope's marriage before Carly hit town. Justin's been turned into Hope's suitor without more than a couple of mentions of the apparent end of his marriage with Adrienne. Stephanie's been thrown under the bus more times than I can count to make Melanie look better. Nicole and Chloe have both done their time as well. In fact, it's more croweded under that damn bus than it is in Downtown Europe.

And this isn't about real life or soap life, it's about crappy writing. Sure, maybe nobody would have ever forgiven Steve in the real world, but the writers didn't just decide to whitewash his past when they decided to keep the character. They spent months showing the gradual redemption of the character. They don't do that anymore.
ITA. I think everyone under that bus needs to move over big time for Lawrence on Tuesday's show.

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Steve's redemption was one of the best storylines. Too bad the writers only drag out the boring crap and don't spend the time on the good stuff anymore.
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Kenny
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Vivian is planning to torture and kill Carly's long lost daughter (clearly illegal) yet she's worried about breaking the law by ignoring a silly little restraining order? Doesn't she have more important things to worry about? How stupid.

This whole show is annoying me today, LoL.
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esp13
Jan 18 2010, 01:31 PM
I think we're talking at cross-purposes here because I don't disagree with a word you've said. My point was simply that it's hardly limited to Carly. Carly is not being thrown under the bus any more or any less than other characters have been over the last couple of years. Hell, they turned Hope into SuperFancyJudgmentalFace just to make sure there was a big rift in Bo and Hope's marriage before Carly hit town. Justin's been turned into Hope's suitor without more than a couple of mentions of the apparent end of his marriage with Adrienne. Stephanie's been thrown under the bus more times than I can count to make Melanie look better. Nicole and Chloe have both done their time as well. In fact, it's more croweded under that damn bus than it is in Downtown Europe.

And this isn't about real life or soap life, it's about crappy writing. Sure, maybe nobody would have ever forgiven Steve in the real world, but the writers didn't just decide to whitewash his past when they decided to keep the character. They spent months showing the gradual redemption of the character. They don't do that anymore.
You are right.....they used to take their time. And, they did not do it for every character.

Just like Bo the rebellious, anti hero son, once unique as a leading man, suddenly was the prototype for every young leading man on every soap.
It worked with Steve because it was not the norm. Because SN had the talent. Because they told a story. And because it was not the norm, it was believable. When they start reforming every rapist and felon, then it's a joke.

Where we disagree is this. Hope has always been judgmental when it comes to Bo. It's not new. It was just exaggerated this time. But from early on, Hope was often the one who precipitated the problems and traumas, and Bo took the blame. Hope followed Bo to his apartment, asked him to make love, Doug followed Hope, saw them, and had a heart attack. Who got blamed? Bo! Hope snuck into Bo's truck to go into the prison to get info on Liz. Who got blamed? Bo. Hope followed Bo thinking he was going to meet some girl, and nearly got Roman killed. Who got blamed? BO. Roman reamed Bo out. Shawn, before he knew Roman was alive, blamed Hope, and Bo went ballistic defending her.
In the 80s it was "cute". She was young. It was their MO for Bo and Hope.
Now, the constant blaming of Bo that has been going on since Aremid is no longer cute to some of us. It's tiresome.
Yes, this last year, from her blaming Bo for Kayla's shooting, (and that was long before CC was even available to come back as Carly); to the yelling at Bo for following his instincts with Phillip and the evidence; to her yelling at Bo for his "by the book" with Ciara, was overdone. But clearly either Bo and Hope were going back burner or they were breaking them up. I am happy for the latter.
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Kenny
Jan 18 2010, 01:44 PM
Vivian is planning to torture and kill Carly's long lost daughter (clearly illegal) yet she's worried about breaking the law by ignoring a silly little restraining order? Doesn't she have more important things to worry? How stupid.

This whole show is annoying me today, LoL.
LOL I never even thought about that at all either.But your right since when does viv worry about obeying the law.
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Kenny
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sandyeggo1
Jan 18 2010, 01:42 PM
ITA. I think everyone under that bus needs to move over big time for Lawrence on Tuesday's show.
The writers are hardly throwing Lawrence under the bus. He was never "one of the good guys." Hell, they've even given him an excuse for his behavior by saying he was suffering from some strange mood-altering disease. If anything, they've done him an immense favor by giving him an out.
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But even at that, it is appalling that the writers ignore that most of Salem KNEW Carly was buried alive by crazy psycho Viv. Where's the compassion of the good people of Salem??


I think Hope has shown some compassion for Carly but it's short lived because Hope is so damn jealous, insecure and hellbent on being right. Lexie, Maggie, Bo, Dan appear to be in Carly's corner. Melanie and Mia don't know this history and their hate towards her don't even count because it's just so stupid that the writers are creating false drama with this. Justin somewhat in her corner.
Edited by Halloween Family, Jan 18 2010, 01:51 PM.
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Oh, and here I was going to try and watch DAYS live....better leave the DVR ON!LOL

ITA about Vic and his constant whining about Nicole. You kept her prisoner, yet you whiny like a fuckin schoolgirl...stop getting your patties in the bunch Victor! This Vic sucks-he's just some grouchy ol'sounding board for Vivian.
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Sindacco
Jan 18 2010, 12:38 PM
I do think the writers have a little double standard right now. I mean it's good that they are explaining how Lawrence treated Carly but in the same episode we can get scenes of Victor telling someone that Nicole tried to kill him. But the writers seem to have forgotten why Nicole tried to kill him. And that reason is that Victor treated Nicole the same way Lawrence treated Carly.
I think they are telling it from Victors perspective. He's not going to care if Nicole had good reason or not. But I do get your point, maybe Brady could chime in (does he know this info) and counter Vic when he goes on a Nicole rant.
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The different between 80s Hope and today's Hope in regards to Bo getting blamed for everything is that, back then, everyone else blamed Bo for Hope's actions (while Hope defended Bo to no end). Today, HOPE blames Bo for everyone else's actions (even her own). If Hope believed in and stood up for Bo as much as she did back then, there'd be no problem.
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Sam09
Jan 18 2010, 01:44 PM
esp13
Jan 18 2010, 01:31 PM
I think we're talking at cross-purposes here because I don't disagree with a word you've said. My point was simply that it's hardly limited to Carly. Carly is not being thrown under the bus any more or any less than other characters have been over the last couple of years. Hell, they turned Hope into SuperFancyJudgmentalFace just to make sure there was a big rift in Bo and Hope's marriage before Carly hit town. Justin's been turned into Hope's suitor without more than a couple of mentions of the apparent end of his marriage with Adrienne. Stephanie's been thrown under the bus more times than I can count to make Melanie look better. Nicole and Chloe have both done their time as well. In fact, it's more croweded under that damn bus than it is in Downtown Europe.

And this isn't about real life or soap life, it's about crappy writing. Sure, maybe nobody would have ever forgiven Steve in the real world, but the writers didn't just decide to whitewash his past when they decided to keep the character. They spent months showing the gradual redemption of the character. They don't do that anymore.
You are right.....they used to take their time. And, they did not do it for every character.

Just like Bo the rebellious, anti hero son, once unique as a leading man, suddenly was the prototype for every young leading man on every soap.
It worked with Steve because it was not the norm. Because SN had the talent. Because they told a story. And because it was not the norm, it was believable. When they start reforming every rapist and felon, then it's a joke.

Where we disagree is this. Hope has always been judgmental when it comes to Bo. It's not new. It was just exaggerated this time. But from early on, Hope was often the one who precipitated the problems and traumas, and Bo took the blame. Hope followed Bo to his apartment, asked him to make love, Doug followed Hope, saw them, and had a heart attack. Who got blamed? Bo! Hope snuck into Bo's truck to go into the prison to get info on Liz. Who got blamed? Bo. Hope followed Bo thinking he was going to meet some girl, and nearly got Roman killed. Who got blamed? BO. Roman reamed Bo out. Shawn, before he knew Roman was alive, blamed Hope, and Bo went ballistic defending her.
In the 80s it was "cute". She was young. It was their MO for Bo and Hope.
Now, the constant blaming of Bo that has been going on since Aremid is no longer cute to some of us. It's tiresome.
Yes, this last year, from her blaming Bo for Kayla's shooting, (and that was long before CC was even available to come back as Carly); to the yelling at Bo for following his instincts with Phillip and the evidence; to her yelling at Bo for his "by the book" with Ciara, was overdone. But clearly either Bo and Hope were going back burner or they were breaking them up. I am happy for the latter.
Again, I'm not defending Hope. I have no dog in the Bo, Carly, Hope fight. I really and sincerely don't give a damn who Bo ends up with. I really and sincerely don't care one way or another about Carly. I don't hate the character, I don't love the character. I view CC as neither a show destroyer nor a show savior.

But, if you want me to sympathize with Carly because everybody in Salem thinks she's bad when she's really just a survivor and misunderstood, it's not going to happen either. Because next week, Carly will be the greatest thing evah and somebody else will be the new whipping boy or girl. It's just how the show rolls these days. And I stand by my point that what we know and what the characters in Salem know are, as far as I can tell, two different things.
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