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Weekly Discussion: 1/18 - 1/22
Topic Started: Jan 16 2010, 08:29 PM (7,264 Views)
Kenny
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God, I'm so sick of Sami's constant weeping and sniveling.

Thank God today's show is over. LoL.
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lysie


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Jan 18 2010, 01:39 PM
Ugh. Molly sucks so much in emotional scenes. I hate her, LoL. How is it that so many people have actually come around to her? I mean, she's not as bad as Taylor Spreitler, but she's far from good.
She's hit or miss with me. Mostly miss lately. The grinning is the worst, IMO. TS is just plain terrible. I don't think she has ever been a hit.
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Matt
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I swear I think Sweeney knows no acting emotion other than hysterical.

RAFE: Sami, I think we're out of milk.

SAMI: What? No milk? It's not my fault! I didn't drink all of it! Why do you always blame me?! WHYYYYYYYYY? No! We can't be out of milk! Noooooooo!
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sandyeggo1


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Jan 18 2010, 01:48 PM

I think Hope has shown some compassion for Carly but it's short lived because Hope is so damn jealous, insecure and hellbent on being right.
Yeah, she should be nicer to the bitch that's sleeping with her husband.

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Lexie, Maggie, Bo, Dan appear to be in Carly's corner.


Bo and Dan yes. Lexie, maybe not for long, and very doubtful now with Maggie.

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Melanie and Mia don't know this history and their hate towards her don't even count because it's just so stupid that the writers are creating false drama with this.


Do you really need to know someone's history to determine if they creep you out or not?

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Justin somewhat in her corner.


Justin? Justin Kiriakis? If by somewhat you mean NOT AT ALL, then OK.



Edited by sandyeggo1, Jan 18 2010, 02:04 PM.
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Kenny
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Matt
Jan 18 2010, 02:01 PM
I swear I think Sweeney knows no acting emotion other than hysterical.

RAFE: Sami, I think we're out of milk.

SAMI: What? No milk? It's not my fault! I didn't drink all of it! Why do you always blame me?! WHYYYYYYYYY? No! We can't be out of milk! Noooooooo!
I think she believes that the more hysterical she acts, the more exciting the scene will be for viewers.

"Oh my God! She was so intense! What a cliffhanger! Now I HAVE to tune in tomorrow!"

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TINA222
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HA Rafe treats Sami like a dumb bimbo and child. Im not fan of Sami but that was her call. Just as it was Hope's call. Sami is soo weak and spineless. Sami does alot wrong but in this case she didnt. She should have stood up to the caveman. and gave him this. :flipoff: :moon: :moon: :moon:


Brady getting turned on by saving Ari? :puke: Were supposed to root for that?? Sorry no.
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Kenny
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sandyeggo1
Jan 18 2010, 02:03 PM
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Jan 18 2010, 01:48 PM

I think Hope has shown some compassion for Carly but it's short lived because Hope is so damn jealous, insecure and hellbent on being right.
Yeah, she should be nicer to the bitch that's sleeping with her husband.
When you push your husband away for months at a time and tell him that you want nothing to do with him, are you really still married in any way but legally? Bo and Hope haven't been emotionally or physically married for quite some time now. Their entire union was headed for a divorce. Why should Hope have any sort of claim on Bo after all she's done to push him away? Just because there's a signature on a piece of paper that says he belongs to her legally? Pssh. That's a rather flimsy marriage. "Husband" my ass. She treated him like a child.

By the way, in saying that I fully acknowledge that the writing for Hope has been uncharacteristic and shitty. But it is what it is. In the context of this particular story, Hope is far from blameless.
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Jan 18 2010, 02:10 PM
HA Rafe treats Sami like a dumb bimbo and child. Im not fan of Sami but that was her call. Just as it was Hope's call. Sami is soo weak and spineless. Sami does alot wrong but in this case she didnt. She should have stood up to the caveman. and gave him this. :flipoff: :moon: :moon: :moon:


Brady getting turned on by saving Ari? :puke: Were supposed to root for that?? Sorry no.
Sir Smug is a total *sshat! But poor, needy Sami is just so worried about him being mad at her. What if his takeover tactics did actually cause the child to be lost forever or harmed?

How is it that Brady has turned into to this? Are we supposed to be fans of this couple that does nothing but argue and screw(mostly screw)? If Brady is not being a nasty, sancitmonious git, he is busy humping the woman who only gets a second thought when all Nicole's needs have been met. How can this guy be John's son?

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sandyeggo1
Jan 18 2010, 02:03 PM
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Jan 18 2010, 01:48 PM

I think Hope has shown some compassion for Carly but it's short lived because Hope is so damn jealous, insecure and hellbent on being right.
Yeah, she should be nicer to the bitch that's sleeping with her husband.

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Lexie, Maggie, Bo, Dan appear to be in Carly's corner.


Bo and Dan yes. Lexie, maybe not for long, and very doubtful now with Maggie.

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Melanie and Mia don't know this history and their hate towards her don't even count because it's just so stupid that the writers are creating false drama with this.


Do you really need to know someone's history to determine if they creep you out or not?

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Justin somewhat in her corner.


Justin? Justin Kiriakis? If by somewhat you mean NOT AT ALL, then OK.



I didn't mean that Hope should be nicer to Carly but Hope has shown some consideration for Carly. KA has shown Hope as conflictedHowever, all bets are off when another woman threatens your marriage. Regardless, if Hope is right or wrong, or Bo, Carly, etc., it's human nature.

Lexie and Maggie may turn their backs on her but that is yet to be determined.

IMO, Melanie and Mia's hatred is exaggerated because the writers have their plot they want to carry out. I agree you can be creeped out by someone without reason, but from intuition or like Keith said last week it could be something as simple as people just not liking one another. It's just the writers have gone about it in an annoying cheap way.

I don't think Justin hates Carly, he is honest with her and tried to call her out.
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Eric83
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"Relax nobody's having sex.... at least not yet"

Ummm Rafe is an asshole. I hated that look he gave Sami on the pier, when he put the phone to his ears. It was like FUCK YOU, YOU STUPID BITCH!!! That really pissed me off. God, Sami why are you so upset that St. Rafe is angry. FUCK HIM!!!!

Carly will you just tell Melanie you are her mother already. She comes across dumb as hell, the longer you wait the more angry she will be.

Vivian is :wub: :wub: :wub: I want her to ruin Melanie and Carly. :)
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Harmony233


Mias hatred of Carly baffles me more than Melanies.I mean Carly comforted Mia and took up for her when Chad called her a slut.Yeah thats a reason to hate someone LOL
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TINA222
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Plus the eyeroll because she is a dumb bitch who isnt allowed to think for herself. Go home and think about what you did little girl. Safe is as offensive as Ejami.
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sandyeggo1


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When you push your husband away for months at a time and tell him that you want nothing to do with him


You know, other than the borly fans constantly post this claim over and over, I have never actually seen that on the show as you have described. She moved out, yes. But she made it clear that she wanted space to deal with their issues that they needed to resolve. You guys make is sound like she packed her bags and told him "I'm moving out and divorcing you, don't talk to me ever", and then never held another conversation with him. :shrug:

To me yes, that still means they have a marriage. A rocky one , but neither one of them ended it (yet).

So, I'll stick with my original thought and not fault Hope for not bowing down and kissing the whinny ass of the woman who selfishly took advantage of a vulnerable situation and slept with her husband.

I personally love Hope and Carly's hatred of one another. That is so much more believable (and fun) than the false friendships with Billie.
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Sindacco
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Jan 18 2010, 01:51 PM
Sindacco
Jan 18 2010, 12:38 PM
I do think the writers have a little double standard right now. I mean it's good that they are explaining how Lawrence treated Carly but in the same episode we can get scenes of Victor telling someone that Nicole tried to kill him. But the writers seem to have forgotten why Nicole tried to kill him. And that reason is that Victor treated Nicole the same way Lawrence treated Carly.
I think they are telling it from Victors perspective. He's not going to care if Nicole had good reason or not. But I do get your point, maybe Brady could chime in (does he know this info) and counter Vic when he goes on a Nicole rant.
Yes, but I'm trying to look from the perspective of new viewers. They have just seen Nicole go to jail for kidnapping and baby switching, and now they hear that she has tried to kill Victor in the past. So new viewers that don't know the whole story might think that Nicole is an evil character and that Sami, EJ and Victor are all innocent victims.
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Jan 18 2010, 03:07 PM
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Jan 18 2010, 01:51 PM
Sindacco
Jan 18 2010, 12:38 PM
I do think the writers have a little double standard right now. I mean it's good that they are explaining how Lawrence treated Carly but in the same episode we can get scenes of Victor telling someone that Nicole tried to kill him. But the writers seem to have forgotten why Nicole tried to kill him. And that reason is that Victor treated Nicole the same way Lawrence treated Carly.
I think they are telling it from Victors perspective. He's not going to care if Nicole had good reason or not. But I do get your point, maybe Brady could chime in (does he know this info) and counter Vic when he goes on a Nicole rant.
Yes, but I'm trying to look from the perspective of new viewers. They have just seen Nicole go to jail for kidnapping and baby switching, and now they hear that she has tried to kill Victor in the past. So new viewers that don't know the whole story might think that Nicole is an evil character and that Sami, EJ and Victor are all innocent victims.
Good point. I like the story told from the characters perspectives but I also like history incorporated into the show more. They have so many gossipy characters that it would be easy for Maggie and Julie to be siting around drinking coffe talking about Sami and her history in the context of Nicole's trial.
Edited by Halloween Family, Jan 18 2010, 03:15 PM.
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karmakatch63


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Jan 18 2010, 01:48 PM
sandyeggo1
Jan 18 2010, 01:42 PM
ITA. I think everyone under that bus needs to move over big time for Lawrence on Tuesday's show.
The writers are hardly throwing Lawrence under the bus. He was never "one of the good guys." Hell, they've even given him an excuse for his behavior by saying he was suffering from some strange mood-altering disease. If anything, they've done him an immense favor by giving him an out.
Is it not laughable? The fear and loathing because CC is actually a good actress, brought fans to DAYS and is not universally hated is amazing. Now a murdering, abusive rapist is being said to be "thrown under the bus" because they are acknowledging his crimes? Yikes.

Here's the thing. Carly was thrown under the bus for having been written to give Lawrence another chance. WHY? We all pretty much know the behind the scenes reasons it was rushed and done.
Now writers have come up with an actual believable storyline. Carly, like millions of women in real life, made a bad choice, believed, wanted to believe he could change. She got herself stuck in an abusive situation, and there was no way out because a) she had another child whom she could not/would not leave b) she was in a country where women have no rights . As well,Carly's long lost to her child makes it even more understandable as to why Carly felt compelled to give Lawrence another chance.

But yes, Hope and many of the good women of Salem have been thrown under the bus with their total lack of compassion for abused women. Hateful jealousy is never an attractive quality. But when it reflects back....I guess it works. And they look twice as bad when we know one is an investigative detective who would not have to work hard to find out the facts.
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karmakatch63


Clearly this post, was posted already, but dang, my internet service goes in and out because of a neighbor's private tower.....
and then part of it posted.
What was here was part of what was above.

Anyway, I sure don't know what is going to happen. Some are sure there is an endgame. Maybe there is. I think it would be sad for the talents of Peter, Kristian, Crystal, Justin for DAYS to do the same old, same old..............what a waste.
If they are smart they will drag this out for a long time.....

But just so "friends" know.....whether Bo ends up with Hope again or with Carly does not matter to me. I will still love my Bo whether he is being berated and guilted on by Hope 24/7 or whether he is having hot sex with Carly 24/7. I would prefer the latter but I can't control the writers. I wish I could.
Edited by karmakatch63, Jan 18 2010, 03:39 PM.
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Jan 18 2010, 10:19 AM
Kenny
Jan 18 2010, 09:36 AM
AlisonLou
Jan 18 2010, 07:20 AM
I just read the prevuze recap for tuesday and I'm appauled at the writers and their treatment of women and child birth on this show.
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For me the show and it's writers have gone too far. This sl is turning me off this show. I DO NOT want to see things like this ever on a soap. I won't be watching this episode. If days haven't lost viewers they will after this episode.
Lawrence was a bastard, yet people still like to insinuate that Carly did something terrible by killing him. Clearly he deserved it. It just goes to show that Carly is not the villain that everyone makes her out to be. She's just misunderstood.
Exactly. Lawrence was an abusive, nasty, sadistic man. Viv is an abusive nasty, sadistic woman.
Yet I still read people saying it was Carly's fault for being with him. Yes she made a bad choice. HELLO. Every woman who is beaten/hurt by her abusive husband made a bad choice. It's classic. So many women STILL believe "if she loves him better or enough" she can change him. The media has contributed to that myth for years. In this genre, how many stories show a violent man (rapist, thug, felon) turned into a hero by the love of a good woman. That rarely happens in real life.

But I digress. Like many women, Carly also had her child Nikki as a factor when she "chose" Lawrence.

What's also being left out by many who insist Carly "could have escaped" is that still in many parts of the world, there are no safe houses, there are no laws to protect women, and women are still considered chattel. Clearly, from comments made by Bo early on, Alamainia was a country in that part of the world.

People have said she should have "gotten away" when she went to that medical conference. Even if at that time she did not believe Lawrence could change, she still had a son there. What mother leaves their child with an abusive father???
Carly's story has not been told for sure.
But even at that, it is appalling that the writers ignore that most of Salem KNEW Carly was buried alive by crazy psycho Viv. Where's the compassion of the good people of Salem?? Seriously, most of them only have compassion and forgiveness of people like Vic, or Ej, or Kate. But Carly, who did nothing but help them when she lived in Salem, is treated like crap because at one time she and Bo were in love? Seriously the Salemites were treating her terribly long before she and Bo even kissed.

I am glad for one that more of her story will be told. But honestly it won't matter. Lawrence could have been the worst, most sadistic man on earth and Carly will still be trashed for being in Bo's orbit, and Bo will still be trashed for not hating her.
Not to mention that the story was written and portrayed by the show that Carly couldn't get away and was stuck in that relationship.

Why do fans try to create separate realities to support their dislike or like of a character. If you don't like Carly, just don't like her, no need to make up reasons.
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jane1978


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Jan 18 2010, 01:51 PM
Sindacco
Jan 18 2010, 12:38 PM
I do think the writers have a little double standard right now. I mean it's good that they are explaining how Lawrence treated Carly but in the same episode we can get scenes of Victor telling someone that Nicole tried to kill him. But the writers seem to have forgotten why Nicole tried to kill him. And that reason is that Victor treated Nicole the same way Lawrence treated Carly.
I think they are telling it from Victors perspective. He's not going to care if Nicole had good reason or not. But I do get your point, maybe Brady could chime in (does he know this info) and counter Vic when he goes on a Nicole rant.
But the show cannot explain every existing plot from past related to character just to explain the reasons why he/she did something bad in the past. Most of plots is eventually completely erased and even the most important are drastically symplified so they can be summed in a line or two. Who wants to hear Victor and Brady arguing about Nicol and what she did and why she did it and what Victor did and what Nicol did to him before etc., practically just recapping plot from 2002. And thatīs the better case. The original Bo/Hope/Carly/Lawrence/Vivian is almost 20 years old and the motivations are even more complicated. The hardcore viewers like on this board are a miniscule minority. The show would have to explain to general audience who is Nicky, how Vivian had stolen him, how Lawrence and Carly discovered Nicky is their child, how and why they threatened Vivian and she attempted to kill Carly till she discovered Dr. Wu and his magic herbals. They would have to explain how Carly and Lawrence fell in love years before she met Bo and arrived to Salem because otherwise her leaving with him doesnīt make even slightest sense.

Thatīs why they keep all past mentions so vague. We know Carly and Bo somewhat fell in love when he thought Hope is gone and she eventually choose Lawrence with whom she has a grownup child. And she had and still has huge dispute with Vivian who even went so far to bury her alive. Try to go deeper and you have to start explain and explain and explain.
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Jan 18 2010, 02:10 PM
HA Rafe treats Sami like a dumb bimbo and child. Im not fan of Sami but that was her call. Just as it was Hope's call. Sami is soo weak and spineless. Sami does alot wrong but in this case she didnt. She should have stood up to the caveman. and gave him this. :flipoff: :moon: :moon: :moon:


Brady getting turned on by saving Ari? :puke: Were supposed to root for that?? Sorry no.
Sami has always been highly emotional, since day 1. That is Sami in a nutshell, impulsive and emotional. Rafe wasn't treating her like a child, he was angry, scratch that he was furious. and she knew it. He was on the job, and was not giving her the time of day. And she was trying to explain herself and crying at the sight of his anger, you know what that look on her face was..... love. It was love! I hated having to endure the nausiness of Brady & Ari together, but watching Mel and Brady made up for that. I love the two of them together, man I hate that age difference... And Vivian and Hope together trying to play each other, what a riot. And Gus, am I the only one that thinks.... yum! Most of all the hunkys came out to play today-- Rafe, EJ, Brady, Troy, & um, Gus (where was Lucas?)
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