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| OLTL: February Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 31 2010, 06:45 PM (9,601 Views) | |
| Q Steph | Feb 16 2010, 09:24 PM Post #181 |
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Thank you cubsgirl. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Feb 17 2010, 01:08 AM Post #182 |
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Can they just get rid of Ford? All he does is walk around and model with a few lines of dialogue. What a waste. There is no development to him and Langston at all. It's so damn shallow and dumb. Ugh Frons! Dorian/Viki was awesome. Loved her firing Lowell too. The Gigi/Stacy bonding was great but the buildup to the ice tragedy was horrible. I didn't have an issue with Gigi trying to race the baby to the hospital because what else could she do. However, everything fell apart right after Gigi was rescued. Why didn't they all just yell out to Stacy about the ice? They just stood there and screamed "No" and then tell her about the ice as she is falling in. Then, the rescue attempt was lame. The actual scenes were good (Stacy saying she was sorry to Rex hit me hard) but the music didn't even get dramatic. I didn't feel anything until the end montage where Rex mentioned the baby didn't have a mother and we saw the hole in the ice. This whole snowstorm event just had too much going on to maintain intensity. The show dragged it out way too long. After the car accident, we got days of people running around in the show and the momentum suffered. Plus, it bordered on cartoonish. Ron does not do large scale action events with this many characters well. His strength is a more focused event that is more driven by emotion then guns, electroshock, rape, etc. I've LOVED having Kelly, Cassie, and Adrianna back and it was so nice to finally have a day without Todd! |
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| DrewHamilton | Feb 17 2010, 01:31 AM Post #183 |
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Stacy falling through the ice was awesome! I was kinda sad. :( I loved Dorian firing Lowell. Go Dori! I like Ford and I do believe that he's going to have a purpose. Why else would they bring him back? I'm loving Gina Tognoni as Kelly already. Screw Tracey Melchior and Heather Tom. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Feb 17 2010, 01:45 AM Post #184 |
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I liked Heather Tom but Kelly didn't have her fun element under her. TM was just a mess. As for Ford, he is so not a RC character and has Frons written all over him. If he was a RC character, Ford and Langston would have at least some sense of development by now. All it's been is one scene after the other of her catching him shirtless or nearly naked. It's all way too shallow and one note. |
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| DrewHamilton | Feb 17 2010, 01:56 AM Post #185 |
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But he is a Carlivati character. He's being written the same way as he was when he first showed up in Llanview as part of David's production crew. The character was probably never meant to go anywhere after that storyline wrapped up, but due to the instant attraction fans had with the actor, Frons probably wanted to capitalize on it. He was brought back as a result. I'm still enjoying him. Sure, he's being used as a sex symbol, but who cares? LOL! As for not seeing something developing between Langston and Ford, it depends on which way you look at it. From Langston's point of view, I definitely see something being developed. There's something there, even if it's just her imagining it. But with Ford, I believe that he's after something and is using Langston to achieve it. I like when the writers allow us to see both party's point of views. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Feb 17 2010, 02:18 AM Post #186 |
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Maybe that is the problem, Drew. I'm not saying a point of view on either side. I'm not seeing any depth whatsoever and that, to me, tells me he's not a RC character. Yes, he was on the show before but, as you said, he was never meant to amount to anything. I don't think RC wants him back or wants this story. I could be wrong but all I see is nothing but a cheap ploy to grab some teenage female fans looking for some sort of shallow BS. I'm seeing a glorified model with no clothes on walking around and a horny college student falling all over herself because she can't bare to be in contact with a fantasy brought to life. Nothing more but, hopefully, it amounts to more if we have to sit through it. |
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| lene | Feb 17 2010, 03:19 AM Post #187 |
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So when Stacy got on the ice, where was the hole Gigi fell into? Did it suddenly just ice up again? Stupid. And how come Fish had no problem helping Rex out of the water, but when both Fish and Rex were on land, they couldn't get Stacy up? LAME! Edited by lene, Feb 17 2010, 03:19 AM.
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| Tammy | Feb 17 2010, 04:19 AM Post #188 |
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I gotta say... this sweeps story sucked! There were good and interesting elements too it... but it just seemed to drag on and on. For me there were too many different people on everyday... to many bullshit scenes that had no purpose! I don't mind having a lighthearted break every now and then... like the Dani/Matthew/Destiny stuff and Kelly/Adrianna. But the pointless scenes with Todd/Tea/Starr... :shame: This is why I like the normal everyday show... and not sweeps "events". |
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| JGG1007 | Feb 17 2010, 04:46 AM Post #189 |
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About time but unfortunately the show is bringing in a new stripper. On the brighter side of things, another well done all around episode. |
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| cubsgirl | Feb 17 2010, 07:33 AM Post #190 |
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The snowstorm could have been good, but it did drag out too long. They should have just had a couple of shows just focus on what was happening on the mountain (instead of Todd/Tea repeats). I think they could have kept up the intensity if shows only focused on that action on the mountain and not breaking it apart. OLTL can be so hot and cold at times. Honestly it is the best during no-sweeps times because I feel like less people in charge are paying attention during those times and RC is allowed to write the show the way he wants. We are able to get the character driven stories during those no-sweeps times. But because so much pressure is put on creating these huge stunts for sweeps, character just gets pushed aside. I agree with Drew. He is a RC character, but he wasn't suppose to be more than a sidekick for David, but Frons wanted him back to try and catch some teenies with the eye candy. Also I feel like RC doesn't hide what he likes and doesn't like. There was no effort in Stacey's death. If there was, I think we would have seen them pull Stacey out and die on the shore. She said sorry and talk care of the baby and she was gone. Also with Ford/Langston. There has been no effort to make Ford anything more than a underwear model. He just seems like that he is being forced to write for this character. |
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| DrewHamilton | Feb 17 2010, 09:48 AM Post #191 |
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Cheap ploy? Sure. NBC has been doing it for over a decade now with all of their soaps. DAYS is just the only one now. |
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| Eric83 | Feb 17 2010, 10:02 AM Post #192 |
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"Relax nobody's having sex.... at least not yet"
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That hit me hard too. Stacy was about to tell Rex he wasn't the father, and it was so sad. :( I'm glad she got to leave with a little bit of dignity. |
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| Drew | Feb 17 2010, 10:06 AM Post #193 |
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TM gets a bad rap. She was playing out an arc of emotions that she never got to fully finish because ABC decided to stunt cast. When Kelly came back she was married to the up and coming political figure, she was miserable in her marriage, not letting anyone know it, and was playing the Good Wife role. You got to see in the short weeks right before the change to HT, those layers and barriers coming down and then HT came in just in time for Kelly to have her screw-Kevin moment and drop the act. If TM had been given the chance, she would have been great. |
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| Eric83 | Feb 17 2010, 11:05 AM Post #194 |
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"Relax nobody's having sex.... at least not yet"
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David Gregory should have been cast as CJ Roberts. (Cord and Tina's son) Posted Image Posted Image He looks like John Loprieno (Cord). Edited by Eric83, Feb 17 2010, 11:05 AM.
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| Eric83 | Feb 17 2010, 11:34 AM Post #195 |
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"Relax nobody's having sex.... at least not yet"
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Let's hope for another Todd-free episode! :cheer: |
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| DrewHamilton | Feb 17 2010, 11:53 AM Post #196 |
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OMG HE DOES! I never noticed it before until now. And I'm not sure they can even have Ford end up being CJ as he's interacted with the Buchanans already. Missed opportunity there. Edited by DrewHamilton, Feb 17 2010, 11:54 AM.
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| Eric83 | Feb 17 2010, 11:58 AM Post #197 |
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"Relax nobody's having sex.... at least not yet"
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It would be nice to have Tina, Sarah, and CJ all in Llanview. Sigh...... |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Feb 17 2010, 12:35 PM Post #198 |
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I agree completely. I have high hopes for the "Cramer woman dying" part of sweeps. If that doesn't deliver like RC usually does, then I will know it's summer 2008 or winter 2009 again and Frons is really in his ear. Like you said, RC makes it obvious when he is writing as he wants to, much like Hogan Sheffer at Days. Right now, I don't feel he is at ease. It's become more and more obvious over the past 6-8 weeks and now it's pretty blatant, at least to me. I almost get the sense he may not have wanted Stacy gone judging by the way everything went. If he did, he may have written the actual death a bit better and much more dramatic then the way it ended up. It was still good but it was lacking. The whole snowstorm event was and, like you said, it should've been condensed to a few days. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Feb 17 2010, 12:37 PM Post #199 |
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I can tolerate it a cheap ploy if that isn't all it's about. We need to see more then what we are getting. More then one scene in a row of his actually wearing clothes would be a nice, modest start. As for DG playing CJ, hell no. I see very little talent with him. He has the look, yes, but for a character like that I would like a better actor or, at least one whose personality that isn't just suited for "swarmy" or "cocky, seductive bastard." He needs to be rootable and I can't see DG playing CJ like that or any character with layers for that matter. Edited by PhoenixRising05, Feb 17 2010, 12:40 PM.
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| PhoenixRising05 | Feb 17 2010, 12:43 PM Post #200 |
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Your right. I guess she wasn't a mess. The writing didn't really get there for her until the end and then she got the rug pulled out from under her. TM wasn't a fantastic actress IMO but she was ok enough to probably do more then she showed if she was given more before it was too late. |
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