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Topic Started: Apr 16 2010, 08:55 PM (12,452 Views)
Halloween Family
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SocRMum1
Apr 23 2010, 12:24 PM
Sami has a home (even if it's Marlena's). She also evidently has a means of support - be it through child support or money from John and Marlena, etc. Even though the show doesn't have Sami working outside her home, she clearly isn't without income and/or support.

As one that wished for SydNic to stay together (because as Janalah, chemistry goes a long way), agree with you on all points. Sami has a support system in place for the children and she gave birth to them as oppose to stole them.

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......... And as I recall, Nicole used picking up the apnea monitor as an excuse to meet up with Doc Baker when EJ was questioning why she'd have gone off and left their newborn daughter in the care of the DiMera maid. In fact, I would think if Nicole were truly putting Sydney's needs first in that situation she'd have had the maid (or someone else) pick up the monitor so she could stay with the baby.

in the beginning when Syd was an infant the audience saw her leaving Syd a lot (just like Sami did with Grace), it wasn't until Syd was a bit older did we see all those cute scenes of her playing with Nicole's jewelry. It seemed like a conscous decision on the producers or AZ's part to show this because it went a long way in making her likeable.

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I've not said that either EJ or Sami are fantastic parents. Just that Nicole has proven to be no better.
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

luvpumpkns
Apr 23 2010, 11:15 AM
is it just me, or did philip's wild hair remind anyone of the character simple jack from tropic thunder? i mean, it's really getting laughable at this point, like it's some big backstage joke.
:rofl:

I also have to agree with whoever it was earlier who said they thought it was unlike Phillip to see his girl kissing another guy and just leave and go sulk without acting up.

I mean back in the teen days when Chloe was leaving him for Brady didn't he have some crazy Heathcliff-like scenes freaking out by the tree where they carved their names (BTW, I wonder if DOOL still has that tree?). And of course he didn't handle Belle and Shawn well when he always was going nuts getting in fistfights with Shawn whether it was before Belle and Shawn ran off with Claire or at the hospital when Shawn wound up going down the stairs or in the Brady Pub when Caroline attacked him with his shillelagh. Oh and of course there was their great run-in at Tinda Lao where Phillip got that great assist from "Duck."

(which means I'm going to post my all-time favo promo for the billionth time)


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So... what do you guys think of EJ/Carrie? I found this montage of their scenes from 2006, and I have to say... I think they might be pretty hot together.

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^If he looked at Carrie in the same way did Sami then yes but EJ and Sami are more fun together.
Edited by Halloween Family, Apr 23 2010, 04:07 PM.
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Nice cliffhanger with Hope whacking Ej over the head with the gun. I'm really enjoying seeing Hope in a frontburner storyline. So many fans have to be wondering what the hell is going on with her. And thank god it looks like we might be done with Melanie/Phillip and Chloe/Daniel soon. I'm so happy Phillip and Chloe did the deed..
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Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 04:03 PM
So... what do you guys think of EJ/Carrie? I found this montage of their scenes from 2006, and I have to say... I think they might be pretty hot together.

LOL at first I thought you were talking about the ejami scenes and ripping on what Sami has become. :shame:

I'm not on board with anything that keeps Carrie in Salem long term. She can interact with Mike, the Bradys, and Anna if she's back, then she needs to get back to Austin asap.
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It had been a wonderful evening and what I needed now, to give it the perfect ending, was a little of the Ludwig Van.

Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 04:03 PM
So... what do you guys think of EJ/Carrie? I found this montage of their scenes from 2006, and I have to say... I think they might be pretty hot together.

I completely agree with that. Ejarrie could have been great. I would have liked EJAustin better though. ;)
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Apr 23 2010, 04:06 PM
^If he looked at Carrie in the same way did Sami then yes but EJ and Sami are more fun together.
While at one time, I might have agreed with you with EJ/Sami being fun. Nowadays, they are as exciting as dishrags and do nothing but bring each other down and bring out the worst.
I would love for Carrie to come back after EJ has been ripped a new asshole by Sami. Maybe a good girl/bad boy romance is just what EJ needs. I could see EJ trying to be good for an actual good girl, but watching him try to be good for a person like Sami is ridiculous.

Bring on Ejarrie!
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Alligato
Apr 23 2010, 05:00 PM
While at one time, I might have agreed with you with EJ/Sami being fun. Nowadays, they are as exciting as dishrags and do nothing but bring each other down and bring out the worst.

I would love for Carrie to come back after EJ has been ripped a new asshole by Sami. Maybe a good girl/bad boy romance is just what EJ needs. I could see EJ trying to be good for an actual good girl, but watching him try to be good for a person like Sami is ridiculous.
Amen!

I used to love Ejami back in '06 and '07. Nowadays, not so much.
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Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 05:06 PM
Alligato
Apr 23 2010, 05:00 PM
While at one time, I might have agreed with you with EJ/Sami being fun. Nowadays, they are as exciting as dishrags and do nothing but bring each other down and bring out the worst.

I would love for Carrie to come back after EJ has been ripped a new asshole by Sami. Maybe a good girl/bad boy romance is just what EJ needs. I could see EJ trying to be good for an actual good girl, but watching him try to be good for a person like Sami is ridiculous.
Amen!

I used to love Ejami back in '06 and '07. Nowadays, not so much.
It's just damn OLD.
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ladyofthelake
Apr 23 2010, 05:17 PM
Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 05:06 PM
I used to love Ejami back in '06 and '07. Nowadays, not so much.
It's just damn OLD.
That's why Rafe and EJ just need to leave Salem for a while and let Sami re-discover herself. For the last 17 years, all she's done is hop from guy to guy to guy. She's lost herself. She isn't herself anymore. She has become defined by the men she's with. She's no longer an interesting character. She's... a prize for two assholes with bad taste in women. A trophy -- and a tarnished one at that. She has completely lost her personality and it's a shame to watch.

I would love it if the writers would just take Sami out of this triangle and let her focus on something else for once. Toss all her romantic prospects out the window and let her re-discover herself. Give her a rest. Let her focus on finding a job and building a career for herself. Give her a new rival. Give her a reason to unleash her inner bitch once again.
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Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 05:06 PM
Alligato
Apr 23 2010, 05:00 PM
While at one time, I might have agreed with you with EJ/Sami being fun. Nowadays, they are as exciting as dishrags and do nothing but bring each other down and bring out the worst.

I would love for Carrie to come back after EJ has been ripped a new asshole by Sami. Maybe a good girl/bad boy romance is just what EJ needs. I could see EJ trying to be good for an actual good girl, but watching him try to be good for a person like Sami is ridiculous.
Amen!

I used to love Ejami back in '06 and '07. Nowadays, not so much.
I was hardcore Ejami in 06-07, so yes, I know what loving EJami is about.
And maybe that is why I fucking hate them right now.
I know how they shine, I know they were good, so to see what they have been reduced to, to see how EJ cowers in a simple conversation with Sami like he is fucking scared of her, and to watch Sami beat up on EJ because he is a Dimera after all of those talks where he used to praise her for being the black sheep of the family...its all just wrong, wrong, wrong.
Compared to 06, EJami is fucking unrecognizable and I don't know how people who liked it then still like it now. It's a different couple.
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It had been a wonderful evening and what I needed now, to give it the perfect ending, was a little of the Ludwig Van.

Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 05:28 PM
ladyofthelake
Apr 23 2010, 05:17 PM
Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 05:06 PM
I used to love Ejami back in '06 and '07. Nowadays, not so much.
It's just damn OLD.
That's why Rafe and EJ just need to leave Salem for a while and let Sami re-discover herself. For the last 17 years, all she's done is hop from guy to guy to guy. She's lost herself. She isn't herself anymore. She has become defined by the men she's with. She's no longer an interesting character. She's... a prize for two assholes with bad taste in women. A trophy -- and a tarnished one at that. She has completely lost her personality and it's a shame to watch.

I would love it if the writers would just take Sami out of this triangle and let her focus on something else for once. Toss all her romantic prospects out the window and let her re-discover herself. Give her a rest. Let her focus on finding a job and building a career for herself. Give her a new rival. Give her a reason to unleash her inner bitch once again.
Very well said Kenny. For the life of me I can't understand it. Why anyone would fight over Sami? She's no prize. Well, certainly not a good one at least. She's little more than a broodmare.
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Oh, LORD, I loved the comment Sami made about thinking Rafe thinks she's a puppet for EJ and doesn't have a brain in her head. DUH, SAMI!!!
Yeah, Chloe and Philip are hot, but damn the hair!
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IMissAremid
Apr 23 2010, 04:03 PM
I mean back in the teen days when Chloe was leaving him for Brady didn't he have some crazy Heathcliff-like scenes freaking out by the tree where they carved their names (BTW, I wonder if DOOL still has that tree?).
Days can't still have the tree, because those vindictive writers had Philip freaking CUT DOWN the tree after he found out about Brady and Chloe.

It was one of many scenes towards the end of Jay's run that felt like how many ways can we crap all over the Phloe fans. Bastards. (And it's one of the reasons that I hated Brash and Cwikly - all done during their run.)

Now, they did show a new growth coming out of the trunk, and Philip did give Chloe the same carving (P&C 4EVER) when she was in the hospital with leukemia, but I highly doubt any of it will ever be revisited.
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

Where was Rafe having his wet dream? Does he actually have his own place? For some reason I just kind of imagined him living out of a YMCA after he stopped mooching off Sami. I'm surprised they created a set just to let us watch sweaty Rafe writhe alone in sheets. :lol: Guess GT had to get out his fantasies somehow. :lol: Enjoyed EJ tweaking Rafe on the way out the door to talk about his "offer." Rafe if you will always love Sami ( :eyeroll: except when she doesn't follow your rules or tells a lie to get her daughter back) and you're so concerned about the time she spends with EJ then why don't you actually repair your relationship with her and get back together with her so you have some reasonable standing to question her choices instead of just giving her lectures about those big bad DiMeras as if you're her parent or her boss or some jealous ex? Sure, Rafe is right and Sami is completely wrong about EJ, but that doesn't make his smug superiority any less obnoxious for me. It actually makes it more so, because it just piles on even more "Sami is the biggest fucking idiot in the world and Rafe is going to prove it" set up of this whole story, which is just depressing because Sami once was one of the smartest people on this show and should not be written as a dumb bimbo in distress needing saving by her heroic ex who loves her so much he dumped her and refuses to take her back.

Loved Hope calling Baker "Big Guy" and her wink. I'm really enjoying this storyline and so far I'm enjoying Baker being back and working with her. I'm not sure I'm enjoying how Nighttime Hope holds her gun the same way all the time though upward and up by her ear. It looks awkward to me. Like she is trying to look like the title credits of Charlie's Angels. But even though I'm an EJ fan I definitely laughed when Hope bopped him to knock him out. Not sure if the clip is worthy of this, but I was still entertained.

:wub: Stefano and Will playing chess :wub: I love it when The Phoenix is in charge and plotting. Also LOL at Will coming home with the seed Stefano planted and Sami going from caring so much about spending time with her kids to sticking Will with them so she can run out all hours of the night to bitch out EJ and Stefano. :lol:

:wub: Drunk and bitter Phloe :wub: Loved it when he grabbed her and pulled her on the couch after they asked each other what they were doing. I would have enjoyed that scene more had they actually given Phloe a bed to have sex on instead of that STD-ridden couch that Danloe have used for their scrumping. Oh, but the bed was much more needed for those two random scenes of Rafe dreaming and thinking alone. :eyeroll: Anyway damn does Chloe get the porniest sex scenes on this show or what. LOL at the shot of him unclasping her bra. Enjoyed when it was over Chloe's little bitchfit and throwing the picture frame and then storming into the hospital to bitch out Carly. She's such a disaster now as a character but at least she's less boring.

I realized today that I think what made me (and maybe others) find Melanie less annoying and start to like her again after her bad start was her relationship with Maggie. But today while I was glad to see Maggie back, I would have rather not seen Maggie if it would have meant I would have not had to deal with a Melanie scene today. Melanie can go fuck herself with her tearful "I finally choose you" speech and realizing Phillip is the one she wants to be with months after they got married. I still don't buy this show's spin that good girl Melanie didn't cheat on Phillip first.
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Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 05:28 PM
ladyofthelake
Apr 23 2010, 05:17 PM
Kenny
Apr 23 2010, 05:06 PM
I used to love Ejami back in '06 and '07. Nowadays, not so much.
It's just damn OLD.
That's why Rafe and EJ just need to leave Salem for a while and let Sami re-discover herself. For the last 17 years, all she's done is hop from guy to guy to guy. She's lost herself. She isn't herself anymore. She has become defined by the men she's with. She's no longer an interesting character. She's... a prize for two assholes with bad taste in women. A trophy -- and a tarnished one at that. She has completely lost her personality and it's a shame to watch.

I would love it if the writers would just take Sami out of this triangle and let her focus on something else for once. Toss all her romantic prospects out the window and let her re-discover herself. Give her a rest. Let her focus on finding a job and building a career for herself. Give her a new rival. Give her a reason to unleash her inner bitch once again.
:hail: :hail: :hail:
ICAM!! Even if Lucas were brought back right now, I would still want exactly what you have described (for awhile - then Lumi! :D )
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

Sariah
Apr 23 2010, 06:05 PM
IMissAremid
Apr 23 2010, 04:03 PM
I mean back in the teen days when Chloe was leaving him for Brady didn't he have some crazy Heathcliff-like scenes freaking out by the tree where they carved their names (BTW, I wonder if DOOL still has that tree?).
Days can't still have the tree, because those vindictive writers had Philip freaking CUT DOWN the tree after he found out about Brady and Chloe.

It was one of many scenes towards the end of Jay's run that felt like how many ways can we crap all over the Phloe fans. Bastards. (And it's one of the reasons that I hated Brash and Cwikly - all done during their run.)

Now, they did show a new growth coming out of the trunk, and Philip did give Chloe the same carving (P&C 4EVER) when she was in the hospital with leukemia, but I highly doubt any of it will ever be revisited.
Thank you Sariah! I love your awesome wealth of Phloe knowledge.

I knew there was something with the tree but I couldn't exactly remember what it was, if he was really like Heathcliff banging his head in the tree or what. Guess he was chopping it down.

And I am definitely with you on not being on the Brash and Cwikly love train like a lot of folks. Weren't they responsible for the alien twins too? I mean Rex was hot at least but damn... their entrance/back story was fucking stupid as hell.
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"Relax nobody's having sex.... at least not yet"

IMissAremid
Apr 23 2010, 06:51 PM
And I am definitely with you on not being on the Brash and Cwikly love train like a lot of folks. Weren't they responsible for the alien twins too? I mean Rex was hot at least but damn... their entrance/back story was fucking stupid as hell.
LOL. Oops I always thought that was Higley. :laugh:
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IMissAremid
Apr 23 2010, 06:13 PM
Melanie can go fuck herself with her tearful "I finally choose you" speech and realizing Phillip is the one she wants to be with months after they got married. I still don't buy this show's spin that good girl Melanie didn't cheat on Phillip first.
:applause: and someone explain how the hell that was a goodbye kiss. she wrapped her arms around his neck and they made out. GMAB.
Edited by luvpumpkns, Apr 23 2010, 07:27 PM.
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