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Spoilers for the week of January 23rd; *Updated 1/20*
Topic Started: Jan 11 2012, 04:23 AM (33,781 Views)
JamesScott_19
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Mitchapalooza
Jan 16 2012, 04:30 PM
JamesScott_19
Jan 16 2012, 04:29 PM
Angie79
Jan 14 2012, 11:21 PM
National Enquirer Spoilers
-Rafe and Carrie grow a lot closer when they save the day at Sydney's birthday party.
-The racy CW photo shoot takes place.
-Madison wants Abigail and Melanie to be the faces of Mad World.
-Hope receives advice how to handle Stefano from Doug and Julie.
-Abe and Jennifer decide to play dirty.
I wish Cafe will just jump each other bones already, tired of waiting :toetap:

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
Sorry Mitch, I love them together, been a fan of them since the beginning :D
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

magicsteacher
Jan 16 2012, 03:53 PM
Heck, it took him almost 5 months before he and Sami even kissed and almost 7 months before they made love. Hardly the MO of a wolf or a womanizer.

Considering Sami was pregnant with another man's child and then recovering from giving birth for a good portion of that time I don't find it all that remarkable.
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Jan 16 2012, 01:43 PM
elizhope
Jan 16 2012, 01:30 PM
Helpless Romantic
Jan 16 2012, 01:01 PM
elizhope
Jan 16 2012, 12:25 PM
So far all I have noticed with Rafe and Carrie is that they are only just "noticing" each other. Like, when you first become attracted to someone, you catch yourself looking at them without even knowing it. I admit, the scenes with the broken thermostat and the porn music was a bit over the top. But if they had those same scenes without the trashy music, and fully clothed, and we only saw them glancing at each other, I would say that is believable. At one point, Rafe even shakes his head, as to tell himself, "what are you doing? you arent attracted to your wifes sister, thats crazy". I dont think Rafe or Carrie are "looking" to stray, and technically neither has done anything wrong, per say.

I dont think either one of them have even admitted to themselves they feel an attraction to each other yet, so Im curious to see how this unfolds later on
Any couriosity I would possibly have if I didn't find the scenes so lame and contrived is that it would be ruined by the knowledge that this will be about Sami and having another "war" with her sister. Only this time over HER husband and not Carrie's. Also while I agree that Carrie may not be looking to stray from Austin she has been fixated on Rafe since meeting him. Even disbelieving and making light of the fact that SAFE are together and not being able to fathom that Rafe could possibly love Sami because IMO she feels that Sami is not good enough for him and now she is not wrong, however she felt that way in one of the first convos with Austin before Sami did anything. She has also been looking for any excuse to hug or be near him. While constantly having a smile plastered on her face I might add. The work thing now just being an excuse that she convienently uses. While disregarding her husband feelings and since returning seeming annoyed and more into Rafe than Austin. While they have Austin oblivious and showing her all the love while she runs off to "work". So I can see Carrie making the first move as she has strayed on Austin before while Rafe has never and written in character would never stray while being married. But to lessen what Sami has done and I don't agree that it does ALL parties had to be written OOC to acomplish "shocking" events. That will have the sisters at odds yet again over the same man. :shame: Yay :sarcasm:
Well, I find SAFE very boring and annoying. I would love to see them broken up permanently, and if this is the start to that, Im all for it. Especially with Lucas coming back.

As far as Carrie making light of Sami and Rafe's relationship, I think that spurs from all those many many years of Sami being a vindictive villain and out to hurt Carrie. Its obvious she thinks Rafe as one of the "good guys", so I would think its natural for her to wonder why such a nice guy is head over heels for someone capable of the things Sami has done in the past.

I do wish all this was happening way after the Ejami scandal reveal though. SAFE breaks up, and then Rafe starts to develop feelings for Carrie. I dont like that it is almost giving Sami a free pass for what she did.

And we have no idea if Rafe is someone capable of straying or not. We know nothing about his past in that area. He has only been with Sami since coming on the show. I dont even think they've really had another girl in Rafe's orbit since he came on board since now....
We know enough of behaviours we have seen and heard from Rafe and the nuns that after Emily died that he closed himself off of loving anyone until he met Sami. Also that he has not strayed when he could have when he and Sami were broken up in summer of 2010 but the closest that came to happening was via a setup when he wanted the CD from Nicole I loved SAFE up until the romp that was the final straw for me and was a long time Lumi fan but feel she does not desserve either one. And I would rather have Nicole with Rafe if not EJ because they actually do have potential unlike CAFE who are being thrown together to give Sami a free pass and reignite the feud with the sisters. I also think that SAFE are not boring but what I found boring about their stories is they constantly revolved and still do around EJ. That is what makes them boring IMO and these and the previous PTB are incapable of writing stories but just write events and drag things out so everything falls flat. Also the only way a pairing for Sami is truly done is if they leave. Otherwise the PTB love the feuding bases and I have no doubt they will continue with the stringing along and bone throwing but I no longer care as I now hate Sami. I again want her in a psych ward , coma or dead because I feel she is undeserving of anyone at this point and really not worth fighting over.
I think it's been proven over the 3 years we've seen Rafe that he is loyal and true. Yes, there have been few temptations come his way, but he has had interactions with hot women, Nicole, Carly, Agent Clark, Tiffany, Alicia and his spicy ex-partner Sophia. He's always come across as not interested. It's naive to think that he's never taken notice of these women, but we've never seen the cheesy OTT display of ogling put on by the writers last week. (Even Galen said in an interview that they were writing Rafe out-of-character.)

I don't like having pairs forced on me, especially written out of character, to push plot. I think it's disrespectful laziness on the part of the writers. Also, there is nothing clever or interesting about putting Carrie and Rafe together. It's their unoriginal twist on the past. (and we know how they love to reference the past) I'd much rather have seen these characters put in engaging story. Carrie battling her inability to have children while Rafe is thrown in an engrossing crime that makes him neglect his family. Instead I have to follow the big flashing neon sign that says 'couple in the making, sex scene on the way'. Gee Mar/Dar who would have ever guessed?

I know those who don't like Rafe are happy to see him fall and those who don't like Safe are happy for the infidelity but it just comes across so false to me. A law office with a detective partner? I'm suppose to believe Rafe is happy to support a family of six with the split earning from this business? Carrie and Rafe are a pair of props being pushed together scene after scene so that come sweep time there can be a big ta-do. Then we can all go down memory lane to see Carrie and Sami battle it out over a man again. whoopdedoo. :shame:

I'm just disappointed that opportunities for gripping story were disregarded for repetitive sister swapping hogwash.
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Jan 16 2012, 04:31 PM
magicsteacher
Jan 16 2012, 03:53 PM
Heck, it took him almost 5 months before he and Sami even kissed and almost 7 months before they made love. Hardly the MO of a wolf or a womanizer.

Considering Sami was pregnant with another man's child and then recovering from giving birth for a good portion of that time I don't find it all that remarkable.
Exactly!

Sami is the one with the sick and twisted libedo.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

Hamilton
Jan 16 2012, 04:39 PM
A law office with a detective partner? I'm suppose to believe Rafe is happy to support a family of six with the split earning from this business?
There is no reason for Rafe to feel he needs to support a family of six. All four of the children have fathers that love them and are fully capable of providing support for them - and Sami (finally) works.

But other than that statement I don't disagree with much of what you've said. I just don't see it as any different than what they've been doing with pairings on this show for the past several years. I don't hate Daniel and Jennifer - but they were clearly forced together under ridiculous circumstances. Same for EJ/Taylor; Chloe/Lucas; and frankly, I felt the same way about Sami and Rafe when he was first brought on the show. It felt very forced and clearly obvious where it was headed - whether the audience loved it or not.
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Jan 16 2012, 04:31 PM
magicsteacher
Jan 16 2012, 03:53 PM
Heck, it took him almost 5 months before he and Sami even kissed and almost 7 months before they made love. Hardly the MO of a wolf or a womanizer.

Considering Sami was pregnant with another man's child and then recovering from giving birth for a good portion of that time I don't find it all that remarkable.
She screwed EJ three minutes after finding out her son was dead. I think it's pretty remarkable. I wouldn't buy Rafe as a womanizer, though. However, I also don't see much of a reason to think Rafe is super loyal. There haven't been a whole lot of options for him in Salem. This is also the longest uninterrupted time he's spent with Sami. Dude has to be rethinking his life decisions.
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I am not saying Rafe is a known cheater or a womanizer.

But, I am saying it is possible for a man to develop lustful feelings for another woman, while loving another. It happens all the time in the real world and the soap world. So far we dont even know exactly how this will play out. All we know is Carrie and Rafe are starting to find each other attractive. Neither claim to love the other, no sex has happened, nothing. Just two people noticing each other. My bet would be Rafe will start to feel very very guilty about even thinking about Carrie.

And I do think the scenes with the porn music and the thermostat were very much contrived. I think there was a better way the writers could have gotten their point across with those cafe scenes

EDIT: The quoted post is missing(not sure what i clicked on wrong LOL), but this was in response to Magicsteacher, Hamilton, and Hopeless Romantic up above.
Edited by elizhope, Jan 16 2012, 05:09 PM.
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At last, another Jack/Marlena therapy session - is this the episode when they visited the real life hospital for the veterans?
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Jan 16 2012, 05:13 PM
At last, another Jack/Marlena therapy session - is this the episode when they visited the real life hospital for the veterans?
I think so. She wouldn't accompany him to an individual session with just the two of them.
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lysie
Jan 16 2012, 04:57 PM
SocRMum1
Jan 16 2012, 04:31 PM
magicsteacher
Jan 16 2012, 03:53 PM
Heck, it took him almost 5 months before he and Sami even kissed and almost 7 months before they made love. Hardly the MO of a wolf or a womanizer.

Considering Sami was pregnant with another man's child and then recovering from giving birth for a good portion of that time I don't find it all that remarkable.
She screwed EJ three minutes after finding out her son was dead. I think it's pretty remarkable. I wouldn't buy Rafe as a womanizer, though. However, I also don't see much of a reason to think Rafe is super loyal. There haven't been a whole lot of options for him in Salem. This is also the longest uninterrupted time he's spent with Sami. Dude has to be rethinking his life decisions.
That is what I was thinking. Rafe hasnt really been around another woman longer than one or two scenes. Not alot of options in his orbit his entire time on the show.

Also this is also the first time they have been having actual marital conflicts with trust. They are arguing and Sami has been keeping things from him. She cheated and is lying about her job. Im sure he has noticed the distance forming between them. Things like that can cause rifts in marriages that leave room for one party to find themselves attracted to another, even if maybe they would not have before
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If the show is going forward with Rafe cheating with Carrie (whether he knows of Sami cheating or not), I honestly have no idea whether he'll forgive Sami or not ... he does seem too 'white knight' for me to believe he would forgive her for sleeping with his worst enemy (or anyone for that matter), but never say never as the circumstances were extreme. I do however have trouble believing that Sami will forgive him if he cheats with Carrie. It won't matter to Sami one iota that she cheated with EJ; Sami and Carrie's relationship is just too volatile over such a long period and let's face it Sami is one of the most irrational characters in Days history so you know she'd go volcanic. It's more likely she'd end up forgiving him only after burning all her bridges with him, in typical Sami fashion.
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Jan 16 2012, 04:52 PM
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Jan 16 2012, 04:39 PM
A law office with a detective partner? I'm suppose to believe Rafe is happy to support a family of six with the split earning from this business?
There is no reason for Rafe to feel he needs to support a family of six. All four of the children have fathers that love them and are fully capable of providing support for them - and Sami (finally) works.

But other than that statement I don't disagree with much of what you've said. I just don't see it as any different than what they've been doing with pairings on this show for the past several years. I don't hate Daniel and Jennifer - but they were clearly forced together under ridiculous circumstances. Same for EJ/Taylor; Chloe/Lucas; and frankly, I felt the same way about Sami and Rafe when he was first brought on the show. It felt very forced and clearly obvious where it was headed - whether the audience loved it or not.
I agree Rafe needn't be financially responsible as the children do have supportive fathers. Of course the writers fail again by making it seem as though Lucas and Ej haven't been contributing. :angry: That dialogue written in about being so strapped and the kids having worn out shoes?! Right, not buying that at all. But, Rafe is a proud man and I'm sure he wants to be seen as a step-father that can fully support his family. He's mentioned before that he wants the kids to be proud of him as their step-dad. That's why I don't think it's in character for him 1) to have worked so long with no pay 2) to be happy with measly pay 3) rely on Sami's income.

As for pairings; Rafe and Carrie bug me the most because I can see the whole thing already mapped out. Step one, step two, step three, step four. It makes me extremely apathetic when I see them only as a prop pair. There is no other purpose to them other than to have the big blow out down the road.

The other couples you mention were thrown together, but I don't believe their futures were as clear-cut and predictable.

So I'd rather the writers not waste my time with scene after scene of this farce coupling especially based on their amateurish efforts. IMO both characters are suffering under this storyline. I'd much rather have a gripping, enthralling tale for each of them. Sadly, I know that won't be the case.

Then again a gripping, enthralling tale is quite a high bar for MarDar no matter who is on screen. :lol:
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This whole Rafe/Carrie law office/bounty hunter stuff (and rescuing missing cats....BLINK BLINK) is even more lame then when BOPE opening their PI/Bounty Hunters office and chased mysterious goop around Salem.
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Jan 16 2012, 06:27 PM
If the show is going forward with Rafe cheating with Carrie (whether he knows of Sami cheating or not), I honestly have no idea whether he'll forgive Sami or not ... he does seem too 'white knight' for me to believe he would forgive her for sleeping with his worst enemy (or anyone for that matter), but never say never as the circumstances were extreme. I do however have trouble believing that Sami will forgive him if he cheats with Carrie. It won't matter to Sami one iota that she cheated with EJ; Sami and Carrie's relationship is just too volatile over such a long period and let's face it Sami is one of the most irrational characters in Days history so you know she'd go volcanic. It's more likely she'd end up forgiving him only after burning all her bridges with him, in typical Sami fashion.
Besides the Carrie and Sami fight, this is exactly why, IMO, at they are having Rafe cheat with Carrie- to make him a more flawed character, since up until now, one of the main complaints of Rafe was that he was too perfect, too much the hero. Now, they are making up for that, in a lacivious way, by making him a cheater. What better person to have him cheat with than with Sami's sister, the one person that would be the ultimate betrayal for Sami, just as EJ is the ultimate betrayal for for Rafe. After they have both cheated on the other, no matter what the reason, the playing field between them will be more leveled, leaving it open down the road for each to forgive the other. As someone else said awhile back, if they really wanted Rafe out of Sami's orbit, they would have paired him with someone with whom he could have a viable relationship. Carrie isn't that person; she always goes back to Austin, and the way these writers love to repeat history, I have no doubt that that is exactly what she will do again.
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I can't see Rafe with any other woman currently on Days. Someone mentioned Nicole has chemistry with everyone, true, but still I wouldn't wish Rafe on her. Time for Rafe to move on, Sami doesn't need him anymore. Okay, maybe Billie. Carrie will have her fun, but I don't see her sticking around town with him on her arm. Maybe they could leave town together? That works for me!
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Jan 16 2012, 09:41 PM
I can't see Rafe with any other woman currently on Days. Someone mentioned Nicole has chemistry with everyone, true, but still I wouldn't wish Rafe on her. Time for Rafe to move on, Sami doesn't need him anymore. Okay, maybe Billie. Carrie will have her fun, but I don't see her sticking around town with him on her arm. Maybe they could leave town together? That works for me!
Neither can I which is exactly why I said if they wanted to pair him with someone in a serious long-term relationship, they would have brought someone in, but instead they put him with Sami's sister to cause trouble with Carrie and Sami. Billie-- I can see her with Jack or Daniel; she's too old for Rafe.
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Jan 16 2012, 04:39 PM
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Jan 16 2012, 01:30 PM
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Jan 16 2012, 01:01 PM

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Well, I find SAFE very boring and annoying. I would love to see them broken up permanently, and if this is the start to that, Im all for it. Especially with Lucas coming back.

As far as Carrie making light of Sami and Rafe's relationship, I think that spurs from all those many many years of Sami being a vindictive villain and out to hurt Carrie. Its obvious she thinks Rafe as one of the "good guys", so I would think its natural for her to wonder why such a nice guy is head over heels for someone capable of the things Sami has done in the past.

I do wish all this was happening way after the Ejami scandal reveal though. SAFE breaks up, and then Rafe starts to develop feelings for Carrie. I dont like that it is almost giving Sami a free pass for what she did.

And we have no idea if Rafe is someone capable of straying or not. We know nothing about his past in that area. He has only been with Sami since coming on the show. I dont even think they've really had another girl in Rafe's orbit since he came on board since now....
We know enough of behaviours we have seen and heard from Rafe and the nuns that after Emily died that he closed himself off of loving anyone until he met Sami. Also that he has not strayed when he could have when he and Sami were broken up in summer of 2010 but the closest that came to happening was via a setup when he wanted the CD from Nicole I loved SAFE up until the romp that was the final straw for me and was a long time Lumi fan but feel she does not desserve either one. And I would rather have Nicole with Rafe if not EJ because they actually do have potential unlike CAFE who are being thrown together to give Sami a free pass and reignite the feud with the sisters. I also think that SAFE are not boring but what I found boring about their stories is they constantly revolved and still do around EJ. That is what makes them boring IMO and these and the previous PTB are incapable of writing stories but just write events and drag things out so everything falls flat. Also the only way a pairing for Sami is truly done is if they leave. Otherwise the PTB love the feuding bases and I have no doubt they will continue with the stringing along and bone throwing but I no longer care as I now hate Sami. I again want her in a psych ward , coma or dead because I feel she is undeserving of anyone at this point and really not worth fighting over.
I think it's been proven over the 3 years we've seen Rafe that he is loyal and true. Yes, there have been few temptations come his way, but he has had interactions with hot women, Nicole, Carly, Agent Clark, Tiffany, Alicia and his spicy ex-partner Sophia. He's always come across as not interested. It's naive to think that he's never taken notice of these women, but we've never seen the cheesy OTT display of ogling put on by the writers last week. (Even Galen said in an interview that they were writing Rafe out-of-character.)

I don't like having pairs forced on me, especially written out of character, to push plot. I think it's disrespectful laziness on the part of the writers. Also, there is nothing clever or interesting about putting Carrie and Rafe together. It's their unoriginal twist on the past. (and we know how they love to reference the past) I'd much rather have seen these characters put in engaging story. Carrie battling her inability to have children while Rafe is thrown in an engrossing crime that makes him neglect his family. Instead I have to follow the big flashing neon sign that says 'couple in the making, sex scene on the way'. Gee Mar/Dar who would have ever guessed?

I know those who don't like Rafe are happy to see him fall and those who don't like Safe are happy for the infidelity but it just comes across so false to me. A law office with a detective partner? I'm suppose to believe Rafe is happy to support a family of six with the split earning from this business? Carrie and Rafe are a pair of props being pushed together scene after scene so that come sweep time there can be a big ta-do. Then we can all go down memory lane to see Carrie and Sami battle it out over a man again. whoopdedoo. :shame:

I'm just disappointed that opportunities for gripping story were disregarded for repetitive sister swapping hogwash.
Awesome post Hamilton! :hail: :applause:
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Jan 16 2012, 01:33 PM
I am absolutely DUMBFOUNDED how ANYONE could think this face -----> Posted Image could sell cosmetics....I mean REALLY...my fucking DOG could sell more cosmetics than this bag of fug!

EPIC FAIL Madison!!
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: HILARIOUS Mitch! Where did you find that horrible pic of Molly?
My good old friend Dusty found this GEM and posted it in the Off-Topic forum...of course I jumped at using it for my avi...what better way to pay homage to the worst thing to happen to DAYS OF OUR LIVES probably EVER!
Aww, that's just a bad picture. Except for her Gumby mouth, Molly's pretty. I could buy her as a model... More than I buy Gabi or Abby, actually. They're pretty, but not really strikingly so.

Whether she's the worst thing to happen to DOOL really depends on who is writing her, I think! ;)
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http://blog.soapoperafan.com/2012/01/days-of-our-lives-spoilers-for-january-23-27/

Getting underhanded.

Madison reveals her dastardly plan solving Samantha to Brady. She is using her ‘former’ employee as a mole. It isn’t long before Rafe hears about it. He is not happy about his wife’s underhanded and dangerous dealings. Complicating things, the sexual tension he’s been feeling with Carrie hasn’t exactly been getting relieved. Carrie feels a different kind of tension in her marriage as she and Austin continue to bicker about everything, including when they are supposed to be making time to make out. He winds up out on a lunchdate with a lady other than his wife. Meanwhile, Sami really enjoys being sneaky and underhanded. She gets set to sabotage a big photoshoot for CW.

Hope continues to get cold feet about taking the plunge and finally popping open Alice’s magical mystery box of wonder and intrigue. She and Bo are so confused about what to do that they turn to Doug and Julie for some advice. Finally, they decided to try and use the courts to push Stefano into revealing more of what he knows.

Since it didn’t work out the first time they broke up, Daniel and Jenn do it yet again to make sure it takes. Meanwhile, Jack is off with Marlena. She takes him through a special therapy session to deal with his post-traumatic stress disorder.

Still a bit lost about what to do now that they are single, Chad and Abby have very different reactions when they receive romantic opportunities. She’s soon very busy at her new job, although she’s spending most of her time have daydreams.

Will discovers again that blackmail can come from more than one direction at once. Nicole starts to manipulate him and sends him off on some little errands of her own. Still uncertain about himself, Will turns down a tantalizing offer from Sonny. He heads to Sydney’s big birthday party, which turns out to be a den of disaster. As William lashes out ferociously at his mother, Nicole steals Syd’s attention and manages to get closer to her again. And Abe takes advantage of the upset and distractions to set EJ up for something that could cost him the campaign.
Edited by LanaluvsBroe, Jan 17 2012, 09:20 AM.
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That party sounds like a hot mess...but I get SYDOLE! :wub:
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